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Ghazal: Sahar ki justujoo hai, aur maiN hooN!

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sarah.n...@gmail.com

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Sep 14, 2006, 4:21:47 PM9/14/06
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aadaab,

aaj aik baar phir maiN apni aik purani ghazal le kar hazir huee hooN.
Is
ghazal ko likhne se pehle maiN is ke baare meiN kuchch kehna
chaahooNgi. yeh ghazal, internet ki mehfiloN ki mehboob hasti, Sarwar
Alam Raaz sahib ki ghazal, "kisi ki justujoo hai aur maiN hooN" se
muta'assir ho kar likhi gayee hai. unki yeh ghazal meri bohot hi
pasandeedah ghazloN mein se aik hai.

mujhe apni Ghazal ke baare mein aap logoN ki aa'raa ka intezaar rahega.

1. sahar kee justjoo hai aur maiN hooN
andheraa chaar.soo hai aur maiN hooN

2. faraaz-e-'aashiqui hai aur tu hai
vufoor-e-aarzoo hai aur maiN hooN

3. naheeN juz dil koi hamraaz mera
isi se guftgoo hai aur maiN hooN

4. mata'a-e-'ishq kee meeraas hai yeh
shikasta dil lahoo hai aur maiN hooN

5. rumooz-e-dehr kee kis ko Khabar hai?
fareb-e-rang-o-boo hai aur maiN hooN!

6. tassavvur meiN mere aisi hai duniya
jahaaN bas tu hi tu hai aur maiN hooN!

7. Khayaal-e-yaar se aaNkhoN maiN ab tak
ravaaN ik aab.joo hai aur maiN hooN

shukriya,

Sarah

Vijay

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Sep 15, 2006, 4:31:34 PM9/15/06
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Sarah Sahiba: aadaab:

jab aap ne apni pehli ghazal ALUP pe pesh kii thii to meN us pe apne
ta'asuraat nahiiN de paaia. voh is liie ki jab mujhe waqt mila,
yaraan-e-alup ne itna kucch aap ki ghazal kii taariif meN likh diia
thaa ki aur kucch kehne ko baaqi hii nahiiN raha thaa!

isi llie is baar maiN sab se pehle pohaNch gaya huuN! aap ko is
Khoobsoorat ghazal par DheroN mubarakbaad. yeh radiif itna Khoobsoorat
hai ki bas kya kehne, aur aap ne is ke saath insaaf bhii Khoob kiia
hai. ab maiN is khoj meN huuN ki bas sarwar sahib kii ghazal kahiiN se
muhyiia ho jae. vaise, mujhe lagta hai ki yeh radiif pehle bhii istemal
ho chuka hai, lekin is waq't zehn meN koii aisii misal nahiiN aa rahii.

aap kii saari ki saari ghazal hii bohat umdah hai. phir bhii she'r
no.2,3,6 Khaas taur pe psaNd aae!

vaise hai to 'der aayad..' vaali baat, phir bhii aap ko ALUP pe Khush
aamded!

Vijay

sarah.n...@gmail.com

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Sep 15, 2006, 4:46:49 PM9/15/06
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Vijay sahib aadaab,

aapka bohot shukriya ke aap ne meri ghazal ko saraha. maiN aap ki
Khwaahish ko bohot jald takmeel mein laane kee koshish karooNgi. yeh
ghazal mere " pasandeedah ghazloN" ke inteKhaab mein moujood hai. uske
ilaavah aapko raaz sahib kee site par bhi mil jayegi.

shukriya,

Sarah

Sarwar A. Raz

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Sep 16, 2006, 8:54:54 AM9/16/06
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mukarramah Sarah SaaHebah: aadaab!

maiN aap kaa mamnoon hooN keh aap ne meree Ghazal ko is qaabil samjh`aa
keh aap bh`ee us zameen meN fikr kareN! yeh meree baRee i'zzat-afzaayee
hai! aap kee Ghazal pasand aayee. daad qubool keejiYe! agar ijaazat deN
to ek-aadh` baat a'rZ^ karooN?
-----------


1. sahar kee justjoo hai aur maiN hooN
andheraa chaar.soo hai aur maiN hooN

mat^la' achh`aa hai. haaN, :saHar kee justjoo: qadre sust ma'loom
huwaa. is ko agar badalne kee koshish kareN to shaayad behtar ho. ek
shakl yeh ho saktee hai:

maqaam-e-justjoo hai aur maiN hooN


andheraa chaar.soo hai aur maiN hooN

---------------------


2. faraaz-e-'aashiqui hai aur tu hai
vufoor-e-aarzoo hai aur maiN hooN

she'r yooN to achh`aa hai albattah :faraaz: kee munaasibat se doosre
miSre' meN (micaal ke t^aur par) :nasheb: aataa to behtar th`aa. lekin
yeh bandish achh`ee naheeN ho gee. kuch` aur sochiYe, jaise:

wohee begaanagee hai aur too hai
wohee ik aarzoo hai aur maiN hooN

yaa aap kee apnee pasand kee bandish.
------------------------


3. naheeN juz dil koi hamraaz mera
isi se guftgoo hai aur maiN hooN

bohat achh`aa she'r hai! waah waah!
--------------------------


4. mata'a-e-'ishq kee meeraas hai yeh
shikasta dil lahoo hai aur maiN hooN

waah! kyaa achh`aa kahaa hai! daad!
---------------------


5. rumooz-e-dehr kee kis ko Khabar hai?
fareb-e-rang-o-boo hai aur maiN hooN!

bohat Khoob!
--------------------------


6. tassavvur meiN mere aisi hai duniya
jahaaN bas tu hi tu hai aur maiN hooN!

pehlaa miSra' kamzor lagaa.is ko yooN soch sakte haiN:

t^asawwur meN basee hai aisee duniyaa
jahaaN bas -------------------
---------------------------


7. Khayaal-e-yaar se aaNkhoN maiN ab tak
ravaaN ik aab.joo hai aur maiN hooN

mere Khayaal meN yahaaN aap se :typo: ho gayaa hai. pehlaa miSra' yooN
honaa chaahiYe th`aa:

Khayaal-e-yaar meN aaNkh`oN se ab tak
-------------------------
aaKhir meN a'rZ^ hai keh yeh koyee iSlaaH naheeN hai. chand be-rabt^
Khayaalaat haiN aur bas. ek kaamyaab Ghazal par mubaarakbaad!

Sarwar A. Raz "Sarwar"

Palwasha

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Sep 16, 2006, 12:00:05 PM9/16/06
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aadaab 'arz,

sab se avval to maiN aapka shukriya ada karna chaahooN gi ke ye Ghazal
yahaaN post kar ke aapne mere bin kahe hi meri farmaayesh poori kar di
hai. is se qabl aapne jo Ghazal post ki thi voh bhi mujhe bahut achchi
lagti hai aur maiN us par bhi likhna chaahti thi lekin mere saath bhi
Vijay sahib vaala hi mu'aamla hua. ya'anee mere aate aate us par sair
Haasil beHs ho chuki thi..

"kisi ki justuju hai aur main hooN" vaali zameen meN aapki kahi is
Ghazal se maiN jazbaati taur zyaada qurbat meHsoos karti hooN..shaayad
sinfi yaksaaniyat is ka sabab ho..

aapki ye poori Ghazal mujhe pehli baar paRh kar hi yaad ho gayi thi aur
saadagi, be saaKhtagi aur shiddat-e-izhaar ki badolat sab se zyaada
achcha mujhe aapka ye sh'er lagta hai ke

tassavur meN mere aisi hai dunia


jahaaN bas tu hi tu hai aur maiN hooN

(mere shaayad mire paRhna chaahiye yahaaN?)

lekin sh'er # 4 meN "mat'aa-e-ishq ki meeraas" ki jo tarkeeb aapne
ist'emaal ki hai, voh mujhe uljhaaye hue hai. bazaahir shaayad aasaan
ma'aloom hoti ho lekin aapki Ghazal ke sirf isi sh'er ki lafzi aur
ma'anvi Khoobi mujh par khul naheeN saki hai.

Ghazal ke aaKhri sh'er ya'anee

Khayaal-e-yaar se aaNkhoN meN ab tak


ravaaN ik aab.joo hai aur maiN hooN

ke baare meN ye poochna chaahooN gi ke kya aab.joo ka aankhoN "meN"
ravaaN hona durust hota hai ya "se" ravaaN hona? mujhe lagta hai ke
"se" ravaaN hona shaayad Theek hai lekin zaahir hai ke Urdu ke baare
meN ham 'aam PaKhtunoN ki raaye ya 'ilm m'otabar naheeN ho sakte. aap
aur deegar daanishvaraan-e-alup is baabat behtar bata sakte haiN.

jaate jaate aik baar phir aapka shukriya ada karna chaahooN gi ke aapki
taKhleeqaat aur savaalaat ki badolat alup par aik baar phir qadre gehma
gehmi nazar aane lagi hai.

aur aaKhir meN ye darKhwaast karooN gi ke itni Khoobsoorat GhazleN
post karne ka jo silsila aapne shuru kiya hai ise mauqoof naheeN kar
deejiye ga. yahaaN aapki agli Ghazal dekhne ke bhi ham muntazir raheN
ge..


Palwasha

Naseer

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Sep 16, 2006, 2:13:24 PM9/16/06
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Palwasha wrote:
> Khayaal-e-yaar se aaNkhoN meN ab tak
> ravaaN ik aab.joo hai aur maiN hooN
>
> ke baare meN ye poochna chaahooN gi ke kya aab.joo ka aankhoN "meN"
> ravaaN hona durust hota hai ya "se" ravaaN hona? mujhe lagta hai ke
> "se" ravaaN hona shaayad Theek hai lekin zaahir hai ke Urdu ke baare
> meN ham 'aam PaKhtunoN ki raaye ya 'ilm m'otabar naheeN ho sakte. aap
> aur deegar daanishvaraan-e-alup is baabat behtar bata sakte haiN.
>
> jaate jaate aik baar phir aapka shukriya ada karna chaahooN gi ke aapki
> taKhleeqaat aur savaalaat ki badolat alup par aik baar phir qadre gehma
> gehmi nazar aane lagi hai.
>

muHtaramah Palwasha SaaHibah, KHush aamaded!

Palwasha SaaHiba, Urdu zabaan par, merii naaqis raae meN, kisii ek qaum
yaa tabqe kii ijaarah daarii nahiiN hai, balkih ham sab kii mushtarakah
miiraas hai!

is maHfil kii gahmaa gahmii aap jaise logoN ke dam se hai. jitne
ziyaadah log is meN Hissah leN ge, utnii hii raunaq do-baalaa ho gii!

ek baar phir main aap ko apnii awr diigar ALUPers kii taraf se KHush
aamaded kahtaa huuN.

{Zoya Sahiba, ab aThaavan maziid saheliyoN kaa intezaar hai. bas ginte
jaaiye!}

KHair-andesh,
Naseer

Zia Baloch

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Sep 16, 2006, 6:30:05 PM9/16/06
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Saara SaaHiba, aadaab

aap se shaayad pehlee baar muKkhat^b hooN ! aap ki KhoobSoorat Ghazal
paRhee aur bohut pasand aayee ! ..........mujhe bhi she'r no 2,4 aur 6
bohut pasand aaye in par KhuSooSi daad qabool kijiye ! Sarwar SaaHib ki
tajaaveez bhi Khoob haiN !

aaKhir meiN aek baar phir daad qabool kijiye ! shukriya

Zia Baloch

Zia Baloch

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Sep 16, 2006, 6:31:01 PM9/16/06
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Saara SaaHiba, aadaab

aap se shaayad pehlee baar muKkhat^b hooN ! aap ki KhoobSoorat Ghazal

paRhee aur bohut pasand aayee ! .......... Sarwar SaaHib ki ye Ghazal
meri pasandeeda GhazloN meiN se hai ........mujhe bhi she'r no 2,4 aur

Naseer

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Sep 17, 2006, 8:22:29 AM9/17/06
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muHtaramah Sarah Sahiba aadaab!

aap kii pesh kardah Ghazal bahut pasand aaii. dilii daad-o-mubaarak
baad qubuul kiijiye!

maiN aap awr Sarwar Sahib se ek sawaal puuchhnaa chaahtaa huuN awr is
kaa maqsad koii tanqiid nahiiN hai. yih sirf ba-haisiyyat-i-ma'luumaat
Haasil karne ke liye puuchh rahaa huuN.

just-o-juu awr guft-o-guu ko 'umuuman "guftuguu", "justujuu" ya'nii
pesh ke saath likhaa jaataa hai awr mere KHayaal meN yih alfaaz aise
hii bole bhii jaate haiN. lekin aap ne in alfaaz ko apni Ghazal meN
"justjuu" awr "guftguu" baaNdhaa hai. kyaa yih "zaruurat-i-shi'rii"
hai?

KHair-KHwaah,
Naseer

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Rajiv Chakravarti

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Sep 18, 2006, 9:19:47 AM9/18/06
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aadaab 'arz,

aapko to yeh pata hai hi k. mujhe aapki yeh vaali Ghazal
pasand hai, aur kyoN na hoti -- andaaz ki puKhtagi aur nafaasat
ki aayeenda daar hai! isko aapne manzar-e-'aam par laa kar
auroN ko bhi lutf.andoz hone ka mauq'a ataa farmaaya hai
jo bohot achhi baat hai.

ek zamaana yooN bhi thaa k. is zameen par Khaaksaar ne bhi
likhne ka socha tha... lekin yaqeen keejiye k. jab aapki
Ghazal saamne aayi to maine apnaa iraada vaheeN par tark
diya tha -- jis Khoobsoorat libaas meiN aapne Ghazal ko Dhaala
aur jo rang aapne pesh kiya, voh mujhse kam.az.kam naheeN
hona tha! yeh mubaaliGhaa naheeN, haqeeqat hai.


ab aapki Ghazal ki taraf:

ab tak jo chand tajaaveez pesh kee jaa chuki haiN, un meiN
maiN she'r #7 (meiN <--> se) ke 'ilaava koi aur tajveez se
fil.vaqt muttafiq naheeN hooN. lekin yeh sirf meri raaye hai.

yeh kehne ki zaroorat naheeN k. yahaaN par koi bhi shaKhs
baa.qaaida "shaa'ir" ki haisiyat ka naheeN aur sabhi apne
shauq-o-zauq se likhte/paRhte haiN -- lihaaza "islaah" ka
savaal hi naheeN uThtaa.

aap apne 'aaraa aur nataaij par Khud hi pohoNchne ka poora
haqq rakhti haiN. alag 'aaraa dekh kar yaqeenan soch ki mazeed
raaheN khulti haiN.

> 1. sahar kee justjoo hai aur maiN hooN
> andheraa chaar.soo hai aur maiN hooN

bohot hi acche! yahaaN par aapne taKhallus "Sahar"
ist'emaal kar ke jo matl'e ko dohra matlab
diya hai, us se sh'er aur bhi nikhar aata hai aur
Khud.aagahi ka jo rang saamne aata hai, voh "maqaam"
jaise alfaaz meiN naheeN hai. is ki maujooda shakl hi
mujhe pasand hai.


> 2. faraaz-e-'aashiqui hai aur tu hai
> vufoor-e-aarzoo hai aur maiN hooN

yahaaN par bhi sirf itna kehna chaahta hooN k.
"faraaz" aur "vufoor" jaise alfaaz se jazbaati shiddat
paida dikhaayi deta hai. zaroori naheeN k. "faraaz"
ke saath "nasheb" hi aaye (aur yahaaN par yeh be.ma'ani
bhi hoga, jaise kaha jaa chuka hai). agar "pinnacle/acme/
height" ke liye aapko behtar mutabaadil lafz soojhta hai
to be.jhijhak iste'maal kar leejiye. vaise mujhe sh'er meiN
koi naqs naheeN dikha.


> 3. naheeN juz dil koi hamraaz mera
> isi se guftgoo hai aur maiN hooN

> 4. mata'a-e-'ishq kee meeraas hai yeh
> shikasta dil lahoo hai aur maiN hooN

> 5. rumooz-e-dehr kee kis ko Khabar hai?
> fareb-e-rang-o-boo hai aur maiN hooN!

> 6. tassavvur meiN mere aisi hai duniya
> jahaaN bas tu hi tu hai aur maiN hooN!

yeh chaar ash'aar be.'aib aur bohot acche haiN.
marhabaa, kyaa kehne!


> 7. Khayaal-e-yaar se aaNkhoN maiN ab tak
> ravaaN ik aab.joo hai aur maiN hooN

is par pesh kee gayi tajveez ko apnaa leejiye.
yeh vaala sh'er mujhe sirf "Theek" laga, lekin is ka
matlab naheeN k. is meiN koi Ghalati hai -- sirf mehsoos
kiya k. baaqi ash'aar ke me'yaar ka shaayad naheeN.
(aur ek hi me'yaar ka hona bhi kahaaN aasaan kaam hai!)

yeh rahe mere ta'aasuraat. aapki poori Ghazal mujhe be.hadd
pasand aayi hai aur aap yaqeenan qaabil-e-tehseen haiN. agar
yooN hi aapne mashq-e-suKhan jaari rakhengi to jald hi taraqqi
ke bohot marhale tai kar lengi!

faqat,
RC


pas-e-navisht:
------------
1) Naseer saahib ke savaal ke javaab meiN yeh 'arz hai k.
justju bilkul saheeh hai, aur is ko "zaroorat-e-she'ri"
samajhne ki koi vajh bhi naheeN. Platts meiN bhi iska
javaaz darj hai:

P just [v.n. of justan, Pehl. zayitan; Zend jad; S. gad], s.f.
Searching; search:--just-ju, just-o-ju, s.f. Searching, seeking;
search, inquiry, quest, scrutiny, examination,
investigation:--just-o-ju karna, v.n. To search, seek, &c.


2) ek Khushi ki aur baat hai k. is Ghazal ko paRh kar
Palwasha ne muddat ba'ad yahaaN phir likhna shur'u kiya
hai. unse bhi guzaarish hai k. ab is kaar-e-Khair ko
jaari rakheN, aur apni agli Ghazal/nazm hote hi yahaaN
par chaspaaN kar ke shukriye ka mauq'a farmaayeN.

sarah.n...@gmail.com

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aadaab,

maiN aap ki shukrguzaar hooN k aapne apna qeemti vaqt nikal kar meri
ghazal par apna izhaar-e-Khyaal kiya. aapko meri ghazal pasand aayee,
is se dili Khushi huee.

>>7. Khayaal-e-yaar se aaNkhoN maiN ab tak
>>ravaaN ik aab.joo hai aur maiN hooN

>>mere Khayaal meN yahaaN aap se :typo: ho gayaa hai. pehlaa miSra' yooN
>>honaa chaahiYe th`aa:
>> Khayaal-e-yaar meN aaNkh`oN se ab tak


yeh typo to naheeN tha, meri ghalati thee. jo maiN zaroor durust kar
looNgi.
aapki baaqi tajaveez par bhi Ghour karooNgi.

aik baar phir, aapka behad shukriya

Sarah

sarah.n...@gmail.com

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aadaab,

mujhe yeh jaan kar bohot Khushi huee ke aap ko meri donoN GhazleN
pasand aayeeN. aapne jis andaaz se meri ghazal ko saraha uska bhi
bohot shukriya. maiN aapki bohot mamnoon hooN.

lekin yeh aapne kya keh diya ke, " Urdu ke baare meN ham 'aam PaKhtunoN
ki raaye ya 'ilm m'otabar naheeN ho sakte." pehli baat yeh k jis qoum
ne Patras jaisa heera
urdu zubaan ko diya, (aur unke ilaavah bhi deegar adeeb, aur sho'ara,
is vaqt naam zehn mein naheeN) us qoum ke urdu par kya kam ehsaanaat
haiN.

doosri baat vohi hai jo Naseer sahib ne kahi, k urdu zubaan keh
leejiye, ya kisi bhi qism ka fun (urdu vala) :) kisi bhi qoum kee
meeraas naheen hota hai, yeh insaanoN ki banayee huee hudood se
beniyaaz hai.

teesri baat yeh ke jin logoN kee maadri zubaan urdu naheeN, aur voh
phir bhi urdu se itna lagao rakhte haiN, unke liye ham "so called urdu
speaking" valoN ke paas bohot 'izzat aur eHteraam hai.

aapne kaha ke "mat'aa-e-ishq ki meeraas", ki tarkeeb aap ko uljhaye hue
hai? mera kehne ka matlab yehan yeh tha ke, 'ishq ki badoulat jo cheez
mujhe haasil huee, voh mera shikasta dil hai. ab mujhe naheen pata ke
maine in alfaaz ka ist'maal Theek kiya ke naheeN, yeh baat shaid aap
"daanishvaraan-e-alup" hi mujhe behtar bata sakeNge. :)


aap ne aakhri sh'er ke baare meiN jo kaha, us se maiN muttafiq hooN,
yehan yeh meri ghalati thee, aab.joo ko aaNkh se ravaaN hona chahye, na
ke aaNkh mein.
is cheez ki taraf ishaara karne ka shukriya.

jaate jaate maiN bhi aap se darKhwaast karooNgi, ke alup par aap bhi
ham sab ko apni ghazloN aur nazmoN se navazeN to ham sab ko bohot
Khushi hogi.


Shukriya,

Sarah

sarah.n...@gmail.com

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aadaab,

aap ka bohot shukriya ke aap ne meri ghazal paRhi, aur usko pasand bhi
kiyaa.

Sarah

sarah.n...@gmail.com

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aadaab,

aapka bohot shukriya ke aap ne meri ghazal ko pasand kiya. jahaN tak
aapke savaal ka ta'alluq hai, voh aapko Rajiv sahib kee post se mil
gaya hoga. meri choti see lughat meiN bhi is ka ist'emaal, guft.goo hi
likha hai.

ummeed karti hooN ke aap ki uljhan door hogayee hogi.

Sarah

Naseer

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sarah wrote:

> aapka bohot shukriya ke aap ne meri ghazal ko pasand kiya. jahaN tak
> aapke savaal ka ta'alluq hai, voh aapko Rajiv sahib kee post se mil
> gaya hoga. meri choti see lughat meiN bhi is ka ist'emaal, guft.goo hi
> likha hai.
>
> ummeed karti hooN ke aap ki uljhan door hogayee hogi.


muHtaramah Sarah Sahiba, aadaab 'arz hai!

dar asl mujhe koii "uljhan" nahiiN thii balkih zihn meN maHz ek
"enquiry" thii. mera asalan sawaal yih thaa kih bol chaal meN (jahaaN
tak mujhe 'ilm hai) ham log shaayad "just-u-juu" awr "guft-u-guu" (pesh
ke saath) kahte haiN. to shi'r meN "justjuu" awr "guftguu" kyoN likhaa
jaataa hai? bas itnaa sawaal thaa. Platts kii daliil apnii jagah par
hai.


"Khayaal-e-yaar se aaNkhoN maiN ab tak
ravaaN ik aab.joo hai aur maiN hooN"

aap ke is shi'r par ek do daanishvaroN ne likhaa hai kih "aaNkhoN se"
honaa chaahiye thaa. lekin agar ham kaheN kih aaNkheN ek samandar kii
taraH gahrii haiN awr in meN ek aab-juu ravaaN hai, to ek naii aab-juu
"aanKhoN se" tab ravaaN ho gii jab yih paimaanah chhalak jaae gaa! kyaa
KHayaal hai aap kaa?

KHair-andesh,
Naseer

sarah.n...@gmail.com

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Sep 18, 2006, 5:32:00 PM9/18/06
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aadaab,

go k yeh ghazal aap ke liye nayee naheeN, lekin aap ne alup par aakar
is par aapni aa'raa ka izhaar kar ke mujhe bohot 'izzat baKhshi

aap ka bohot shukriya.

Sarah

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Sep 20, 2006, 12:45:05 PM9/20/06
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Naseer sahib aadaab,

aap ke pehle savaal ka javaab to shaid koi aur aluper hi behtar tour se
de sakta hai.

aap ki doosri raaye ke baare mein, maiN yeh kehna chahooNgi ke "aankheN
aik samandar" ka tassavur shaid puraane andaaz ki shairy ke liye
zyaadah munaasib na ho. lekin yeh sirf meri aik haqeer raye hai.

(aap kee post par taKheer se javaab dene ke liye ma'aazrat)

Sarah

Palwasha

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Sep 20, 2006, 9:01:09 PM9/20/06
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Sarah,

javaab ke liye shukriya..

aapke mat'aa-e-ishq ki meeraas vaale sh'er se mujhe jo uljhan ho rahi
thi voh aap aur Naseer sahib ke aik jumle se mujh par vaazeH ho gayi
hai. apne javaab meN aik jagah aapne likha hai ke,

"urdu zubaan keh leejiye, ya kisi bhi qism ka fun (urdu vala) :) kisi
bhi qoum kee
meeraas naheen hota hai"

jabke Naseer sahib ne likha,

"Urdu zabaan par, merii naaqis raae meN, kisii ek qaum
yaa tabqe kii ijaarah daarii nahiiN hai, balkih ham sab kii mushtarakah

miiraas hai! "

phir aik doosri jagah aapne ye bhi likha hai ke,

"mera kehne ka matlab yehan yeh tha ke, 'ishq ki badoulat jo cheez
mujhe haasil huee, voh mera shikasta dil hai"

mujhe aisa lagta hai ke agar qaum ki meeraas ka matlab qaum ko Haasil
hone vaali aik cheez hai to ishq ki meeraas se matlab ishq ko milne
vaali cheez ho ga lekin aapke kehne ke muaabiq aap ne Khud ko Haasil
hone vaali cheez ka tazkira kiya hai. yahi maiN samajh naheeN paa rahi
ke aik cheez ishq ki meeraas hai to voh aapko kaise Haasil ho gayi?
mat'aa-e-ishq se aapka rabt bhi mujhe vaazeH meHsoos naheeN ho raha.

aapka javaab paRhne ke ba'ad meri uljhan mujh par to vaazeH ho gayi hai
lekin mujhe ye 'ilm naheeN ke ooper jo kuch maiN ne likha us se aap
meri uljhan samajh saki haiN ya naheeN.

doosre voh meri PakhtoonoN vaali baat par aap aur Naseer sahib ne bhi
apni jo raaye di hai us se maiN Khud ko zyaada muttafiq meHsoos naheeN
karti. meri guzaarish hai ke is baat ko aap lisaaniyaati pehlu se
dekhiye. mera Khayaal hai ke juGhraafiyaayi aur nasli tanavv'o rakhne
vaali har baRi zabaan ke lehje to muta'adad ho sakte haiN lekin tamaam
lehjoN meN ma'ayaari lehja kisi aik ko hi Thehraaya jaata hai. aur maiN
yahi keh rahi thi ke agar savaal Urdu zabaan meN kisi jumle ki saaKht
ki durustagi ya naqs ka ho to uske baare meN saHeeH faisle ka aitimaad
"'AAM" paKhtoonoN par naheeN kiya jaa sakta kyuN ke Urdu ka paKhtoon
lehja bahar Haal ma'ayaari naheeN.

aap ne aur Rajiv ne koyi Ghazal ya nazm post karne ka kaha hai to aapke
is Hukm ki ta'ameel mujhe karna hi paRe gi lekin ye filfor mere liye
mumkin naheeN ho ga kyuN ke aik to apni kisi bhi Ghazal ya nazm se abhi
maiN Khud bhi mutma'in naheeN hooN. doosre kaam ki masroofiyat ki
badolat meri internet aamad sirf aik do ghanToN tak meHdood hai aur
mujhe lagta hai ke itne muKhtasar vaqt meN maiN kisi aisi beHs ki
mutahammil naheeN ho sakti jis ke taveel hone ka imkaan maujood ho.

yahaaN maiN Naseer sahib ka shukriya bhi ada karna chaahooN gi jinhoN
ne alup par mera Khair maqdam kiya hai. maiN aik taveel 'arse se yahaaN
aa rahi hooN lekin post kam hi kiya hai. kayi alupers se baat cheet bhi
rahi hai to isliye mujhe apna aap yahaaN kabhi naya ya ajnabi naheeN
laga lekin Naseer saahib, aapne mujhe Khushaamaded kaha hai to is ke
liye maiN aapka dil se shukriya ada karti hooN.

aur Sarah, aapki Ghazal "jab se vasl-e-yaar ka toHfa hua Haasil mujhe"
bhi manzar-e-'aam par aane ki mustaHiq hai.


Palwasha

sarah.n...@gmail.com

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Sep 29, 2006, 3:14:38 PM9/29/06
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Palwasha,


javaab taaKheer se dene ke liye ma'aazarat! kuchch to main masroofiat
kee vajh se naheeN de payee, aur kuchch der maine jaan boojh kar aapka
javaab naheen diya, ke shaid koi
aur aap kee uljhan ko door kar sake. kyoN ke shaid mere paas Khud aap
ke savaal ka javaab naheen hai.


maiN aapko sirf itna bata sakti hooN ke maiN is she'r mein kya kehna
chah rahi thee, ab maine in alfaaz ka saHeeH 'istem'aal kiya
ya naheeN, yeh maiN naheeN jaanti.

mere yehaaN kehne ka matlab tha ke meri 'ishq kee poori mat'aa se,
ya'ani is asaase se mujhe aik aur cheez bhi haasil huee hai voh mera

TooTa hua dil hai. maiN aap ki baat bhi samajh rahi hooN ke shaid
mat'aa aur meeraas ma'ani ke 'aitebaar se bohot qareeb haiN.

lekin maine shairy mein aik hi tarah ke do alfaaz ko us ki ahmiat
baRhaane ke liye aik saath 'istem'aal hote aksar
dekha hai.


jahaaN tak baat paKhtoon qoum ki hai, mere Khyaal se har tarah ke log
har qoum mein moujood hote haiN. kuchch log "ma'yaari" andaaz mein
baat karte haiN aur kuchch naheeN. yeh sirf paKhtoonoN tak mehdood
naheeN. in meiN ham "urdu speaking" bhi shaamil haiN. ma'yaari hona
ya Ghair ma'yaari hona is par munhasir hota hai ke aap kitaaboN se
kitne qareeb haiN.

aur kisi ki baat ko sirf is buniyaad par mustarid kardena, mere nazdeek
bohot zyaadati aur naa.insaafi hai, ke voh aik Khaas tabqe' ko belong
karte haiN (bohot koshish kee ke angraizi ka koi lafz na aaye. lekin is
vaqt kuchch naheen soojha)
yeh to kisi bhi fard par munhasir hai ke usko seekhne aur apne andaaz
ko ma'yaari banane ki kitni lagan hai, aur voh kitna aage tak jaana
chahta hai.

aap samajh rahi haiN na meri baat?

aur jahaN tak aapki baat hai, aap ke Khutoot ke lehje se andaazah hota
hai ke aap un "aam PaKhtoonoN" mein se naheeN (jis ka zikr aap ne
apne Khat meiN kiya hai)

mujhe yaqeen hai ke maiN aapki uljhan naheen door kar payee hooN, lekin
maine koshish to kee hai.

Sarah

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