Kamal Amrohi

[mki...@my-deja.com]

Dear Friends,

I came across a beautiful song " Kaheen Eik Massoom, nazuk see larkee".
It was penned by Kamal Amrohi for the film "Shankar Hussain" and was
tuned by Khayyam, sung by Rafi.

I know that Kamal Amrohi also wrote a few lyrics for the movie Pakeezah,
but was he a regular "poet"???

I would be interested to know which other "lyricists" do you consider
"poets" as well. Shakeel Badayuni, Sahir, Kaifi Azmi are considered to
be poets but what about Majrooh, Rajinder Krishan, Anand Bakhshi etc.

regards,

kami

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Before you buy.

[Khursheed Ahmed]

In my opinion, a good poet is determined by his/her poetry, not whether
the poetry is written for film industry. Of course, once a ghazal/nazam
becomes a song, it loses its literary appeal and even the poets themselves
do not recite these at musha'eras. Recently, I had the privilege to
listen to Nida Faazli in a musha'era in Toronto, who is a poet based in
Bombay. I found his poetry most enjoyable, even though I have heard some
of it as filmi ghazals.

Others may have different views, but this is my humble opinion.

Best regards,
Khursheed

[Ashok]

In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.991107...@fhs.csu.McMaster.CA>,
ah...@fhs.csu.McMaster.CA says...

>
>Of course, once a ghazal/nazam
>becomes a song, it loses its literary appeal

Really? That too, with an "of course"!
Can't say that has happened to "ye na thi hamaari qismat".

Perhaps Kami should try to define the terms poetry, song,
etc. Sure, the definitions will be rough-edged and may
not be able to handle marginal cases, but it would help
to know what core characteristics are associated with
each.

Ashok

[vijay...@my-deja.com]

In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.991107134752.27969H-
100...@fhs.csu.McMaster.CA>,

Khursheed Ahmed <ah...@fhs.csu.McMaster.CA> wrote:
> > Of course, once a ghazal/nazam

> becomes a song, it loses its literary appeal and even the poets
themselves
> do not recite these at musha'eras. >

> Best regards,
> Khursheed
>

Reminds me of an incident, as told me by Arshad Khan Sahib. At one of
the mushaairas in Toronto, Ahmed F'raaz was bombarded by the
audience,requesting him to recite his famous 'ranjish hii sahii, dil
hii dukhaane ke liie aa'. Jis pe F'raaz Sahib ne hans ke jawaab diia
ki 'haazriin, yeh ghazal to aap Mehdi Hassan Sahib hii se suniie to
behtar hai'.

Khurshid Sahib, I feel that what you state, may apply more to shayers
who are alive. IMHO, nothing will dimnish the work of classical shayers.

Respectfully,

Vijay Kumar

[il_kh...@my-deja.com]

In article <8022tn$uqd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

mki...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> I came across a beautiful song " Kaheen Eik Massoom, nazuk see
larkee".
> It was penned by Kamal Amrohi for the film "Shankar Hussain" and was
> tuned by Khayyam, sung by Rafi.
>
> I know that Kamal Amrohi also wrote a few lyrics for the movie
Pakeezah,
> but was he a regular "poet"???
>
> I would be interested to know which other "lyricists" do you consider
> "poets" as well. Shakeel Badayuni, Sahir, Kaifi Azmi are considered to
> be poets but what about Majrooh, Rajinder Krishan, Anand Bakhshi etc.

> kami

I do not think that the basic question/info Mr. Kidwai
asked has been attended to in this thread. Of course,
any answer will have to be qualified with an "IMHO" !

Majrooh Sultanpuri is definitely a poet and has been
recognized as such in literary circles. "IMHO",
though, Rajinder Krishan and Anand Bakhshi are
basically film poets, and I don't mean it in any
derogatory sense. Shahryaar and Javed Akhtar are also
to be considered as regular poets.
Kamal Amrohi, IMO, does not fall in the category of
Shakeel, Sahir etc.
BTW, it is only in English that Kamal is referred to
as "Amrohi". In the Urdu script, he is always
described as "Amroh'wi", which I think is quite
correct.

Afzal