BARAY LOGON KI DILCHASP BAATEN

[Raj Kumar]

BARAY LOGON KI DILCHASP BAATEN

yaaraan-e-maHfil:

maiN ALUP par aek nayaa silsila shuruu’a karna chaahata huuN, jis meN naam-var ashKhaas, Khaas kar adeebaan-e-Urdu, ki dilchasp baatoN ka tazkira hoga. maiN ne is silsile ko “baRay lagoN ke lateefe” nahiiN kahaa aur na hi “baRay logoN ki baRii baateN” kahaa hai kyuuN-k aisa kahne se is silsile ka maidaan kuchh sukaR sa jaaye ga. maiN ne, soch samajh kar, is silsile ko “baRay logoN ki dilchasp baateN” kahaa hai taa-k is ka maidaan vasee’a rahe.

jaisa k aap jaante hi haiN, Mirza Ghaalib ke lateefe to zabaaN-zad-e-aam haiN; albatta, deegar esaateza ki dilchasp baatoN ka zikr kam-o-besh hi hota hai. is ka matab yeh nahiiN k is silsile meN ham Ghaalib ko biruun-e-maHfil rakkheN ge --- naa naa naa, aisa hargiz nahiiN hoga; aap yahaaN kisi bhi sitaara-e-Urdu ki dilchasp baateN ham sabhoN ko sunaa sakte haiN.

maiN is laRii ko, tabarrukan, teen dilchasp baatoN se shuruu’a kartaa huuN. ummeed hai k deegar dost is laRii meN mazeed izaafa karte chaleN ge.

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to, chaliye, is laRii ka aaGhaaz karte haiN Urdu adab ki choTii se:

1. Meer Taqii Meer se un ke kisii maddaaH ne puuchhaa, “Huzuur, aaj kal Hindustaan meN Urdu ke aise kitne shaa’ir haiN jinheN baRaa shaa’ir samjhaa jaa sakay”? javaab milaa: “aRhaa’ii”.

us shaKhs ne puuchha: “voh kaise”?

Meer bole: “aek to Khaaksaar, aek Mirzaa Saudaa aur aadhe Khwaaja Meer Dard”.

us shaKhs ne Hairat ka izhaar karte huye arz kiyaa: “Huzuur, Meer Soz bhi to baRe shaa’ir haiN, yahaaN tak k voh Nawaab Aasif-ud-Daulaa (jin ka diyaa vazeefa aap khaate haiN) ke ustaad haiN. to phir bhalaa un ka kyaa muqaam hai”?

farmaayaa: “agar yeh baat hai to chalo --- aRhaa’ii ke paune-teen kar lo”! :-)

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2. Maulaanaa Hasrat Mohaani jahaaN aek bahut baRay shaa’ir the, vahaaN aek bahut baRe siyaasat-daan bhi the --- yahaaN tak k voh aek zamaane meN All India Congress ke General Secretary bhi rah chuke the.

aek din unheN siyaasii umuur ki Khaatir Agre jaanaa paRaa. vahaaN ke Urdu-dostoN ne sochaa k Maulaanaa ka, siyaasat-daan hone ke ilaava, ba-taur-e-shaa’ir bhi to istiqbaal hona chaahiye. so, unhoN he us roz shaam ko aek taqreeb rakkhii jis ka maqsad Maulaanaa ko shaa’iraana tafreeH ka saamaan baham pahuNchaanaa thaa.

siyaasii zimme-daariyoN se faariGh ho kar, Maulaanaa us muqaam par pahuNche jahaaN is taqreeb ka taqarrur tha. voh juNhii us maHfil meN vaarid huye, aek buuRhii muGhannia(h) ne, apne jogiya aaNchal ko sambhaalte huye, apni performance shuruu’a kii --- ustaad DaaGh ke is she’r se:

ham ne un ke saamne pahle to KhaNjar rakh diyaa
phir kaleja rakh diyaa, dil rakh diyaa, sar rakh diyaa!

Maulaanaa phaRak uTThe – kyaa she’r hai aur kyaa aavaaz hai!!!

is ke ba’ad, un mohtarma ne do-teen GhazleN gaa’iiN jinheN sun kar Maulaanaa maHzuuz to huye magar satt hi saath kuchh ‘bore’ bhi hone lage! is sar-aaseemagii ke aalam meN, unhoN ne apne aek musaaHib se puuchhaa, “miyaaN, asl prograam kab shuruu’a hoga”?

javaab milaa k ”Huzuur, ham ne to aap ki buzurgii aur aap ki siyaasii martabat ko dhyaan meN rakhte huye, ko’ii aisa-vaisa prograam nahiiN rakkhaa. bas yihii kuchh hai jo aap dekh rahe haiN”.

yeh javaab sun kar, Maulaanaa to saTpaTaa gaye aur bole, “aray naa-muraado, kahaaN le aaye ho mujhe ----- aisi nek-baKht to aek apne ghar meN bhi hai”!!! :-)

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3. Ismaa’iili community ke sar-ba-raah janaab AGha Khan aek baar Canada ke mash_huur shahr Toronto meN tashreef laaye, jahaaN un ka Khuub istiqbaal kiyaa gyaa aur Toronto ki Metropolitan Council ne un ke eizaaz meN aek Khaas reception ka eihtemaam bhi kiyaa jahaaN aek bhaari majm’a ikaTThaa hu’aa.

juNhii mahmaan-e-Khusuusi ki aamad hu’ii, Haazireen-e-maHfil ne un ka josh-o-Kharosh se Khair-maqdam kiyaa aur pahli hi rasm meN aek muqaami councillor ne ‘cheers’ ka ailaan kar diyaa. nateejatan, stage par baiThe sabhi shurafaa --- including AGha Khan saaHib --- ne champagne se bharaa glaas uThaayaa aur Halq meN uNdel liyaa!

reception ke Khatm hote hi, aek shaKhs ne AGha Khan sahib se kahaa, “Huzuur, musalmaanoN par to sharaab Haraam hai magar aap to champagne se bharaa glaas GhaTaa-GhaT pii gaye".

javaab milaa, “kahne ko to yeh sharaab hai, magar jab mere laboN ko chhuutii hai to paanii paanii ho jaatii hai”! :-)

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Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

[Naseer]

muHtaram Raj Kumar SaaHib, aadaab 3arz hai.

yih bahut hii achche silsile kaa aaGhhaaz aap ne kiyaa hai. Hasb-i-istitaa3at bandah-i-Haqiir bhii is meN kuchh nah kuchh mavaad shaamil karne kii koshish kare gaa.

Naseer

[Zoya]

RK sahib,

aap ne bahut dilchasp silsila shuru kiya hai. ise jaari rakhiye ga.

Fun stuff! Thank you.

___Zoya

[Naseer]

In case you missed this post of mine on 19/10/2019!:-)

in dinoN Sahir Ludhiyanvi kaa bahut charchaa ho rahaa hai aur honaa bhii chaahiye. un hii kii zabaanii Majaz ke muta3alliq ek vaaqi3ah suniye.

"Majaz kii tunuk-mizaajii aur Haazir-javaabii se vaa-bastah ek qissah yih bhii hai.

Josh SaaHab ke phaTe meN TaaNg aRaane yaa ba-Ghair kisii vajh ke nasiiHat karne kii baRii burii 3aadat thii. aise hii ek roz Majaz SaaHab ko kahne lage...

dekho Majaz, sharaab piine kaa saHiiH tariiqah yih hai kih aahistah aahistah pii jaa'e. maiN do minaT meN ek paig xatm kartaa huuN aur hameshah ghaRii saamne rakh kar piitaa huuN. tum bhii ghaRii saamne rakh kar piyaa karo.

ghaRii rakh kar? Majaz ne baat se baat paidaa karte hu'e kahaa.. meraa bas chale to maiN ghaRaa rakh kar piyaa karuuN!"

Naseer

[Naseer]

On Sunday, 27 October 2019 21:51:45 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:

Raj Kumar SaaHib, Meer Taqi Meer ke mutaabiq Khwaaja Meer Dard aadhaa shaa3ir hai aur ziyaadah se ziyaadah paunaa. ab suniye Faiz Ahmed Faiz ke nazdiik Bahadur Shah Zafar kii kyaa Haisiyyat hai.

Youtube par ek video hai jis kaa 3unvaan hai, "Tribute to Faiz Ahmed Faiz by Dilip Kumar - Shabana Azami. is meN Shabana Azami bataatii hai kih Faiz un kaa pasandiidah-tariin Shaa3ir hai aur jab Faiz Moscow Film Festival ke silsile meN Moscow ga'e to Shabana bhii unheN milne ga'ii. Faiz Saahab ne Shabana ko apne chand na'e ash3aar paRhne ko kahaa. is par Shabana ne sharmate aur khisiyate hu'e unheN bataayaa kih mujhe Urdu paRhnaa nahiiN aataa. is par Faiz Ahmed Faiz ko Ghussah aa gayaa aur vuh Shabana ko "naa-ma3quul" kahne ke 3ilavah us ke vaalidain ko bhii kosne lage.

apnii is kotaahii ko chhupaane kii xaatir Shabana ne unheN batayaa kih go use Urdu paRhnaa nahiiN aatii, taa-ham use Urdu shaa3irii kii xuub samajh-buujh hai aur un kaa bahut saa kalaam use az-bar yaad hai......

jaise kih..

dekh to dil kih jaaN se uThtaa hai
yih dhu'aaN kahaaN se uThtaa hai

Faiz SaaHab kash lagaa kar bole, "bha'ii vuh to Meer kaa kalaam hai."

haaN haaN meraa matlab hai "baat karnii mujhe mushkil kabhii aisii to nah thii."

sigraT rakh kar aur kaan khujaate hu'e Faiz ne kahaa, "dekhiye Meer kii Had tak to vuh Thiik thaa lekin Bahadur Shah Zafar ko maiN shaa3ir nahiiN maantaa!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ka4SmHIo7E

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

***janaab Naseer sahib v Zoya sahiba:

aap dono dostoN ka bahut bahut shukriya k aap ne Khaaksaar ke is silsile ka Khair-maqdam kiyaa. umeed hai k yeh silsila kuchh der tak to chale ga.

Naseer sahib, maiN is silsile ke baare meN aek muddat se soch rahaa thaa magar zehn mutavaatir Ghazaliyaat hi meN uljhaa rahaa aur maiN is taraf ziyaada dhyaan na de paayaa. yaqeen jaaniye, aap ki Haaliya post ko dekh kar hi meri "baasi kaRhii meN ubaal aayaa" aur is silsile ka aaGhaaz hu'aa! :-)

Huzuur, aap ne Josh M. aur Majaaz L. se mut'alliq jo baat bataa'ii hai, nihaayat dilchasp hai aur sabhi dostoN ko pasaNd aa'ii hogi. aap ki is post se mazeed ilqaa paa kar, maiN bhi 'anqareeb in Hazraat se mut'alliq chaNd aur dilchasp baateN pesh karuuN ga. bas, intezaar ki sham'eN jalaaye rakhiye.

niyaaz-kesh, Raj Kumar***

[Raj Kumar]

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Raj Kumar SaaHib, Meer Taqi Meer ke mutaabiq Khwaaja Meer Dard aadhaa shaa3ir hai aur ziyaadah se ziyaadah paunaa.

***No, no, no, Naseer sahib --- aap to is lateefe ke uupar hi se guzar gaye. bhaa’ii mere, Meer ke mutaabiq, Kh. Meer Dard to aadhe shaa’ir the hi; ab unhoN ne Meer Soz ko “aek chauthaa’ii shaa’ir” Thaihraa diyaa!

Please read that story again.***

> ab suniye Faiz Ahmed Faiz ke nazdiik Bahadur Shah Zafar kii kyaa Haisiyyat hai.

> Youtube par ek video hai jis kaa 3unvaan hai, "Tribute to Faiz Ahmed Faiz by Dilip Kumar - Shabana Azami. is meN Shabana Azami bataatii hai kih Faiz un kaa pasandiidah-tariin Shaa3ir hai aur jab Faiz Moscow Film Festival ke silsile meN Moscow ga'e to Shabana bhii unheN milne ga'ii. Faiz Saahab ne Shabana ko apne chand na'e ash3aar paRhne ko kahaa. is par Shabana ne sharmate aur khisiyate hu'e unheN bataayaa kih mujhe Urdu paRhnaa nahiiN aataa.

***Urdu paRhnaa nahiiN AATAA???
to kyaa Shabaana A’azami bhi “PunjaabiyoN KA Urdu” boltii haiN? ☺

yeh alag baat k, aage chal kar, aap ne is Ghalati ki tasHiiH kar di hai!***

> is par Faiz Ahmed Faiz ko Ghussah aa gayaa aur vuh Shabana ko "naa-ma3quul" kahne ke 3ilavah us ke vaalidain ko bhii kosne lage.
>
> apnii is kotaahii ko chhupaane kii xaatir Shabana ne unheN batayaa kih go use Urdu paRhnaa nahiiN aatii, taa-ham use Urdu shaa3irii kii xuub samajh-buujh hai aur un kaa bahut saa kalaam use az-bar yaad hai......
>

*** Here, "un ka" means "kin ka"? un ke valid sahib ka yaa kisii aur ka?***

> jaise kih..
>
> dekh to dil kih jaaN se uThtaa hai
> yih dhu'aaN kahaaN se uThtaa hai

*** yahaaN, duusre misrule meN se lafz “saa” Ghaa’ib hai. kyaa yeh kamaal Sh. A. ki jhilmilaatii hu'ii yaad-daasht ka hai yaa aap ki thartharaati hu'ii uNgaliyoN ka?*** ☺

> Faiz SaaHab kash lagaa kar bole, "bha'ii vuh to Meer kaa kalaam hai."
>

> haaN haaN, meraa matlab hai "baat karnii mujhe mushkil kabhii aisii to nah thii."
>
> sigraT rakh kar aur kaan khujaate hu'e Faiz ne kahaa, "dekhiye, Meer kii Had tak to vuh Thiik thaa lekin Bahadur Shah Zafar ko maiN shaa3ir nahiiN maantaa!"

***yeh to vuhi baat hu’ii (jo maiN ne aek se ziyaada baar sun rakkhii hai) --- voh yeh k
“ham Iqbal ko sanad nahiiN maante”!

kyaa kareN, Naseer sahib, “EGO burii balaa hai!”

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

[Raj Kumar]

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> *** yahaaN, duusre misr'e meN se lafz “saa” Ghaa’ib hai. kyaa yeh kamaal Sh. A. ki jhilmilaatii hu'ii yaad-daasht ka hai yaa aap ki thartharaati hu'ii uNgaliyoN ka?*** ☺

[Naseer]

Raj Kumar SaaHib, aadaab 3arz hai.

aap ke savaalaat ke javaab maiN bi_ltartiib dene kii koshish kartaa huuN.

1. jii haaN, merii Ghalatii hai. maiN latiifah to samjh paayaa thaa lekin aRhaa'ii se paune do ke faasile ko 3ubuur karne meN qaasir rahaa!:-)

2. "is par Shabana ne sharmaate aur khisiyate hu'e unheN bataayaa kih mujhe Urdu paRhnaa nahiiN aataa."

aap shaayad maaneN yaa nah maaneN, maiN ne aisaa diidah-o-daanistah kiyaa hai. ek jagah yih jumlah likhaa hai aur duusre maqaam par duusraa jumlah.. "apnii is kotaahii ko chhupaane kii xaatir Shabana ne unheN batayaa kih go use Urdu paRhnaa nahiiN aatii, taa-ham use Urdu shaa3irii kii xuub samajh-buujh hai.." maiN dekhnaa chaahtaa thaa kih ALUP dostoN meN se kisii kaa ko'ii radd-i-3amal aataa hai yaa nahiiN. aur radd-i-3amal aa hii gayaa!:-)

jii nahiiN janaab-i-vaalaa, Shabana Azami "PanjaabiyoN kaa Urdu" nahiiN boltiiN balkih yih misaal LakhnaviyoN kii Urdu se hai!

"haaN Hindu agar yih koshish kareN kih Bhaakaa meN jitne Farsi asmaa' mil ga'e haiN un ko is zabaan se nikaal DaaleN to in ko na'ii zabaan banaanaa paRe gaa."

"un logoN kaa shaa3ir honaa to kujaa, unheN achchhii tarH baat karnaa bhii nahiiN aataa."

yih donoN jumule "maqaalaat-i-Tabatabaa'ii" se maaxzuuz haiN. (Nazm Tabatabai)

C.M.Na'im (az Barabanki) kii Introductory Urdu se maziid misaaeN pesh-i-xidmat haiN.

alif- mujhe kuchh kitaabeN xariidnii haiN/thiiN/hoN gii.

be- mujhe kuchh kitaabeN xariidnaa haiN/thiiN/hoN gii

jiim- **mujhe kuchh kitaabeN xariidnaa hai/thaa/ho gaa**

3. *** Here, "un ka" means "kin ka"? un ke valid sahib ka yaa kisii aur ka?***

apnii is kotaahii ko chhupaane kii xaatir Shabana ne unheN (Faiz SaaHab ko) batayaa kih go use (Shabana ko) Urdu paRhnaa nahiiN aatii, taa-ham use (Shabana ko) Urdu shaa3irii kii xuub samajh-buujh hai aur un kaa (Faiz SaaHab kaa) bahut saa kalaam use (Shabana ko) az-bar yaad hai......

4. yahaaN, duusre misr'e meN se lafz “saa” Ghaa’ib hai. kyaa yeh kamaal Sh. A. ki jhilmilaatii hu'ii yaad-daasht ka hai yaa aap ki thartharaati hu'ii uNgaliyoN ka?*** ☺

"saa" ke Hazf karne meN Shabana SaaHibah aur Naseer SaaHib kaa kamaal aadhaa-aadhaa hai!:-)

mujhe 3ilm hai kih ALUP meN shirkat karne vaaloN meN se aksar aHbaab kii zabaan Urdu nahiiN hai aur is meN maiN bhii shaamil huuN. nah maiN Urdu boltaa huuN aur nah hii likhtaa huuN. bahut saal pahle bachpan meN Urdu meN xat likhtaa thaa aur ab sivaa-i-ALUP meN yaa ek aur maHfil meN ba3z auqaat Urdu meN likh letaa huuN. agar ko'ii Urdu bolne vaalaa mil jaa'e to us vaqt Urdu bolne kii mashq bhii ho jaatii hai. ghar meN Punjabi aur ANgrezii hii chaltii hai! yih sab-kuchh apnii kotaahiyoN ke difaa3 meN 3arz nahiiN kar rahaa balkih ek Haqiiqat pesh kar rahaa huuN.

niyaaz-mand,

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 2:19:08 AM UTC-7, Naseer wrote:

***jahaaN tak Josh sahib ke “phaTe meN TaaNg aRaane” ki baat hai, to us ka aek muzaahira muNdarja-zail kahaani se bhi vaazeH hota hai.

Dilli ke aek mushaa’ire se pahle, kuchh sho’araa ke liye peene-pilaane ka eihtemaam bhi kiyaa gayaa thaa, jo k Daryaa GaNj ke nazdeek aek hotel meN tai paayaa thaa. vahaaN, deegar sho’araa ke ilaava, Josh M. bhi maujuud the aur Firaaq sahib ka intezaar kar rahe the.

juNhii Firaaq sahib aaye, Josh bole: “aray Faraqve, tum itni der se kyuuN aaye ho”?
[vaazeH ho k Josh sahib apne ham-‘asroN ko aise hi ulTe-seedhe naamoN se bulaayaa karte the (jaise, Majaaz ko “aray Majazve!”)

Firaaq ne kahaa, “mujhe der is liye ho gayii k maiN abhi abhi Shimla se vaapas lauTaa huuN”.

Josh sahib ne bigaR ka kahaa: “Shimla se vaapas lauTaa huuN? --- bhalaa yeh kahaaN ki zabaan hai? tum yeh kyuuN nahiiN kehte k maiN Shimle se vaapas lauTaa huuN”?

Firaaq bole: “are miyaaN, tum to yuuN bigaR rahe ho jaise maiN ne “ghoRa ki dum” kah diyaa ho”!

is javaab par, sabhii musaaHib haNs paRay aur Josh sahib ke laboN par bhi muskuraahaT bikhar ga’ii!

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Lahore ki aek nishast meN, Josh sahib maujuud the aur deegar as_Haab se guft-o-shuniid kar rahe the. us maHfil meN janaab Abdul Hameed ‘Adam ko bhi shariik honaa thaa.
[yaad rahe k ‘Adam sahib baRay moTay-taazay, farbih badan ke Haamil the.]

juNhii ‘Adam sahib vaarid huye, Josh bole:

“agar yihii hai ‘Adam to vujuud kyaa hogaa?” ☺

is fil-badiih misr’e par, Haazireen loT-poT ho gaye!

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is silsile ki agli qist meN, maiN chaNd baateN Majaaz sahib ke baare meN pesh karuuN ga.

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

[Raj Kumar]

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yaaraan-e-maHfil:

aaj ki qist ka aaGhaaz ham Majaaz L. ki do-aek baatoN se karte haiN:

1. aek maHfil meN, jahaaN Majaaz L. maujuud the, aek saaHiba ne Allama Iqbaal ki voh mash_huur Ghazal gaa'ii, jis ki ‘opening line’ hai:

kabhi, ai Haqeeqat-e-muntazar, nazar aa libaas-e-majaaz meN

yeh misr’a sunte hi, Majaaz sahib ne apne qareeb baiThe aek dost se kahaa: “aur jab Haqeeqat-e-muntazar Majaaz ke libaas meN aa’ii to kisi ne pahchaana tak nahiiN”! ☹

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2. aek baar, Lahore ki kisi aNjuman ke araakeen ne Majaaz sahib ko aek hafte ki da’avat dii k voh Lahore aa’eN aur vahaaN ke tahzeeb-o-tamaddun se aashnaa hoN.

Majaaz sahib ne yeh peshkash qubuul farmaa’ii aur aek hafta Lahore meN guzaar kar vahaaN ki tamaam-tar KhuubiyoN ka iHaata kiyaa. taariiKhii maqaamaat ki sair kii, baazaaroN meN ghuume-phire aur baaGhoN meN chahl-qadamii kii. un ke e’izaaz meN ka’ii maHfiloN ka in’eqaad kiyaa gayaa, jahaaN unheN bharpuur izzat baKhshi ga’ii.

bil-aaKhir, voh vaqt aa pahuNchaa jab unheN vaapas Lakhnau ka ruKh karnaa thaa. us roz, kayee Urdu-dost unheN ruKhsat karne Lahore railway station par jam’a huye. Majaaz sahib, har kisi se haath milaane ke ba’ad, jab train par savaar hone lage to aek shaa’iq-e-adab ne un se kahaa: “Huzuur, jaate jaate, aap yeh to bataaiye k aap ko Lahore kaisa lagaa?

Majaaz bolay: “bha’ii, shahr to bahut achchhaa hai magar is meN aek naqs hai”.

us shaKhs ne puuchha; “kyaa naqs hai”?

farmaayaa: “yahaaN punjaabii bahut rahte haiN!” ☹

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3. ab jab-k baat aihl-e-Punjab tak aa pahuNchii hai --- aur aek maqaam par Naseer sahib ne (Shabaana A’azmi ki ruu se) “PunjaabiyoN KA Urdu” ke saath saath “Lucknow vaaloN KI Urdu” ka zikr kiyaa hai --- to aap aek aur dilchasp baat un logoN se mut’alliq sunte jaaiye, jin ka ta’alluq un mahaajareen se hai jo,1947 ke aas paas, Lucknow se hijrat kar ke West Punjab ke kisii shahr meN jaa basay the.

dosto, kahne ko to ham sabhii gaNgaa-jamnii tahzeeb (ya’ani, ‘culture’) ke gun gaate haiN magar aisa karte huye ham yeh bhuul jaate haiN k is ‘culture’ ki taih meN kayee ‘sub-cultures’ dabii paRii haiN. is tafreeq ki binaa par, aek mahaajar shaa’ir mundarja-zail ‘limerick’ kahne par majbuur ho gaye; farmaate haiN

bas gaye Panjaab meN, ruu’ii ko ruuN kahne lagay
dilbaraan-e-Lakhnau uu’ii ko uuN kahne lagay
aaj kal raNg-e-fazaa kuchh aur hai
baat karne kii adaa kuchh aur hai
aap ko tum, tum ko tuu aur tuu ko tuuN kahne lagay!!! ☺

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

[Raj Kumar]

yaaraan-e-maHfil:

meri pichhli qist meN Punjab aur aihl-e-Punjab ka zikr aa gayaa thaa to sochaa, aaj kyuuN na isii mauzuu’a par baat jaari rahe? to, leejiye, is zimn meN do-aek dilchasp baateN suniye.

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1. Jigar Muraadaabaadi nihaayat sul’H-juu insaan the aur aek Thaihrii hu’ii tabii’at ke maalik the. kisii se laRte jhagaRte kam hi the. phir bhi, na jaane, kis ‘mood’ meN unhoN ne yeh she’r kah Daalaa:

U.P. bhi hai, C.P. bhi hai, haiN aur bhi suube
yeh suuba-e-Punjaab hai, ma’aluum nahiiN --- kyuuN? ☺

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2. Back to Josh MaliiHabaadi -------

aek nishast meN, deegar sho’araa ke saath saath Josh M. bhi tashreef-farmaa the aur vaheeN KaNwar Mahinder Singh Bedi bhi maujuud the. baat Hindustan ki muKhtalif zabaanoN ki chal paRii --- kisii ne kuchh kahaa, kisii ne kuchh. is baHs meN Josh sahib ne baRh chaRh kar Hissa liyaa.

jab baHs Punjabi zabaan par aa’ii to Josh sahib ne is zabaan ko Khuub buraa-bhalaa kahaa. is par Bedi sahib ko josh aayaa aur voh apni maadarii zabaan ki pur-zor Himaayat karne lage. kuchh le-de ke ba’ad, Josh sahib ne baiHs ko iKhtetaam dete huye farmaayaa: “ham aur kuchh nahiiN jaante, par itna zaruur jaante haiN k dozaKh ki sarkaari zabaan Punjabi hogi”!

yeh sunte hi, Bedi sahib ne (raaz-daaraana lahje meN) arz kiyaa: “Huzuur, phir to aap ko seekh leni chaahiye”! ☺ ☺ ☺

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3. zikr dozaKh ka aa niklaa hai to aap aek maze-daar baat aek aise baRay shaKhs ki suniye jin ka Urdu se ko’ii ta’alluq nahiiN tha. meri muraad hai Bishop Sheen se, jo nihaayat paRhe-likkhe insaan the aur iisaa’ii mazHab ke pur-vaqaar muqarrir the. agarche mujhe mazhabi umuur meN ko’ii dilchaspii nahiiN, phir bhi maiN un ke tarz-e-taqreer ka shaidaa thaa --- kyaa ravaanii thi un ki taqreer meN aur kyaa mizaaH tha un ke taKhaatub meN!

aek jalse meN voh kisii mauzuu’a par dhu’aaN-dhaar taqreer kar rahe the k aek muqaam par St. Peter ka zikr aayaa aur Bishop Sheen ne bahut si baateN St. Peter ki ta’areef meN kaheeN. Haazireen meN se aek shaKhs uTThaa aur St. Peter par saKht nukta-cheenii karne lagaa. bahut le-de hu’ii. bil-aaKhir, us shaKhs ne aek aisi baat sunaa’ii jo St. Peter ke Haq meN nihaayat burii thii. us baat par, Bishop Sheen ne kahaa: “mu’aaf keejiye, maiN is baat se sar-aa-sar naa-vaaqif huuN. is liye, maiN is baat ki baabat St. Peter se ruu-ba-ruu puuchuuN ga jab maiN unheN bahisht meN miluuN ga. ☺

voh shaKhs bolaa: “agar St. Peter vahaaN na huye to”?

Bishop Sheen ne muskuraate huye kahaa: “to phir aap puuchh leejiye ga”! ☺ ☺ ☺

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Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

[Naseer]

On Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:20:51 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 2:19:08 AM UTC-7, Naseer wrote:
> > On Monday, 28 October 2019 09:04:40 UTC, Naseer wrote:
> > > On Sunday, 27 October 2019 21:51:45 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> > > > BARAY LOGON KI DILCHASP BAATEN
>

> ***jahaaN tak Josh sahib ke “phaTe meN TaaNg aRaane” ki baat hai, to us ka aek muzaahira muNdarja-zail kahaani se bhi vaazeH hota hai.
>
> Dilli ke aek mushaa’ire se pahle, kuchh sho’araa ke liye peene-pilaane ka eihtemaam bhi kiyaa gayaa thaa, jo k Daryaa GaNj ke nazdeek aek hotel meN tai paayaa thaa. vahaaN, deegar sho’araa ke ilaava, Josh M. bhi maujuud the aur Firaaq sahib ka intezaar kar rahe the.
>
> juNhii Firaaq sahib aaye, Josh bole: “aray Faraqve, tum itni der se kyuuN aaye ho”?
> [vaazeH ho k Josh sahib apne ham-‘asroN ko aise hi ulTe-seedhe naamoN se bulaayaa karte the (jaise, Majaaz ko “aray Majazve!”)
>
> Firaaq ne kahaa, “mujhe der is liye ho gayii k maiN abhi abhi Shimla se vaapas lauTaa huuN”.
>
> Josh sahib ne bigaR ka kahaa: “Shimla se vaapas lauTaa huuN? --- bhalaa yeh kahaaN ki zabaan hai? tum yeh kyuuN nahiiN kehte k maiN Shimle se vaapas lauTaa huuN”?
>
> Firaaq bole: “are miyaaN, tum to yuuN bigaR rahe ho jaise maiN ne “ghoRa ki dum” kah diyaa ho”!
>
> is javaab par, sabhii musaaHib haNs paRay aur Josh sahib ke laboN par bhi muskuraahaT bikhar ga’ii!

>

> Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

Raj Kumar SaaHib, aadaab.

Josh M ke baare meN mash_huur hai kih vuh Urdu zabaan kii siHHat ke silsile meN bahut saxt-giir vaaqi3 hu'e the. maiN to soch rahaa thaa kih un kaa nishaana-i-tanqiid lafz "vaapas" aur "lauTnaa" ko milaa kar isti3maal karne par ho gaa, kyoNkih donoN ke ma3nii ek jaise hii haiN, jaise "Sahara Desert" saHraa saHraa hai, 3aiN aap kii kitaab ke 3unvaan kii maanind! vaapas-lauTnaa Platts vaGhairah meN darj nahiiN hai. xair vuh "rihaa'ish" ko qubuul nahiiN karte magar "vaapas lauTnaa" meN unheN ko'ii qabaaHat nazar nahiiN aatii. chalo un kii mazii!

qaari'iin ke liye Josh hii kaa ek vaaqi3ah pesh kar rahaa huuN.

yih un dinoN kii baat hai jab Josh SaaHib be-rozgaar the. unheN saxt bhuuk lagii aur vuh United Coffee House (Ghalib-an Lahore meN) meN jaa baiThe aur apnii pasand kaa khaanaa maNgvaa kar baRe itmi'naan se pet-bhar ke khaayaa. bairaa bil le aayaa to kahne lage, "bhaa'ii, paise to mere paas nahiiN haiN. maiN to ek shaa3ir huuN! yih farmaayaa aur chalte bane. baire ne aage baRh kar un kaa raastah rok liyaa aur kahaa "paise nahiiN deN ge to shervaanii utaariye"! zaahir hai is par Josh SaaHib i3tiraaz hii kareN ge magar bairaa bhii apnii haT kaa pakkaa thaa, musirr rahaa aur shervaanii utarvaa kar hii dam liyaa! phir kyaa hu'aa? shaa3ir aur baire meN garmaa-garm baHs chhiR ga'ii.

itne meN Lala Kishan Laal Kaalra, jo kih is kaafii-haa'uus ke maalik the, aa pahuNche. Josh ne unheN tamaam maajraa sunaayaa aur Lala Kishan Laal ne un kii shervaanii unheN vaapas dilvaa dii. bairaa (apne maalik kii tarH) ko'ii shariif aadamii hii thaa varnah kyaa hotaa agar shalvaar kii bajaa'e shalvaar talab kar letaa!:-)

Naseer

[Naseer]

On Saturday, 2 November 2019 00:25:40 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 10:20:51 AM UTC-7, Raj Kumar wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 2:19:08 AM UTC-7, Naseer wrote:
> > > On Monday, 28 October 2019 09:04:40 UTC, Naseer wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, 27 October 2019 21:51:45 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> > > > > BARAY LOGON KI DILCHASP BAATEN
>

> dosto, kahne ko to ham sabhii gaNgaa-jamnii tahzeeb (ya’ani, ‘culture’) ke gun gaate haiN magar aisa karte huye ham yeh bhuul jaate haiN k is ‘culture’ ki taih meN kayee ‘sub-cultures’ dabii paRii haiN. is tafreeq ki binaa par, aek mahaajar shaa’ir mundarja-zail ‘limerick’ kahne par majbuur ho gaye; farmaate haiN
>
> bas gaye Panjaab meN, ruu’ii ko ruuN kahne lagay
> dilbaraan-e-Lakhnau uu’ii ko uuN kahne lagay
> aaj kal raNg-e-fazaa kuchh aur hai
> baat karne kii adaa kuchh aur hai
> aap ko tum, tum ko tuu aur tuu ko tuuN kahne lagay!!! ☺
>
> Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

Raj Kumar SaaHib, aap ne muhaajir shaa3ir kaa naam nahiiN bataayaa!

Naseer

[Naseer]

On Monday, 4 November 2019 21:25:18 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> On Friday, November 1, 2019 at 5:25:40 PM UTC-7, Raj Kumar wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 10:20:51 AM UTC-7, Raj Kumar wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 2:19:08 AM UTC-7, Naseer wrote:
> > > > On Monday, 28 October 2019 09:04:40 UTC, Naseer wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, 27 October 2019 21:51:45 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > BARAY LOGON KI DILCHASP BAATEN
>

> aek jalse meN voh kisii mauzuu’a par dhu’aaN-dhaar taqreer kar rahe the k aek muqaam par St. Peter ka zikr aayaa aur Bishop Sheen ne bahut si baateN St. Peter ki ta’areef meN kaheeN. Haazireen meN se aek shaKhs uTThaa aur St. Peter par saKht nukta-cheenii karne lagaa. bahut le-de hu’ii. bil-aaKhir, us shaKhs ne aek aisi baat sunaa’ii jo St. Peter ke Haq meN nihaayat burii thii. us baat par, Bishop Sheen ne kahaa: “mu’aaf keejiye, maiN is baat se sar-aa-sar naa-vaaqif huuN. is liye, maiN is baat ki baabat St. Peter se ruu-ba-ruu puuchuuN ga jab maiN unheN bahisht meN miluuN ga. ☺
>
> voh shaKhs bolaa: “agar St. Peter vahaaN na huye to”?
>
> Bishop Sheen ne muskuraate huye kahaa: “to phir aap puuchh leejiye ga”! ☺ ☺ ☺
>
> ------------
>
> Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

Raj Kumar SaaHib, jin vaaqi3aat kaa zikr aap ne is laRii meN chheRaa hai un meN se aksar mere sune hu'e haiN. phir bhii qandi-i-muqarrar kyoN nah bhaa'e? lekin mere xayaal meN Bishop Shiin kaa laa-javaab qissah sab se ziyaadah muzhikah-xez hai! bahut bahut shukriyah!

Naseer

[Naseer]

ab janaab-i-Sahir kii zabaanii do chuTkule suniye.

""ek zamaanah thaa kih Uttar Pradesh ke shaa3ir mujh par yih ilzaam lagaane lage the kih merii shaa3irii meN Panjabi jhalakii hai aur mujhe Urdu zabaan kaa saHiiH isti3maal nahiiN aataa.

un hii dinoN kuchh adiib aur shaa3ir, taqsiim-i-Hind ke ba3d Dehli kii barbaadii par ek miiTiNg kar rahe the kih Sardar Ja'fari ne kahaa.

"Sahir SaaHib! Dehli jitnii baar ujRii hai utnii hii baar PanjaabiyoN ne use basaayaa hai!"

maiN haNste hu'e bolaa, "in hii afraad ne yih bhii kahnaa shuruu3 kar diyaa hai kih pachaas baras ke ba3d bhii PanjaabiyoN ko Urdu nahiiN aatii!""

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""maiN jab film laa'in meN aayaa to taraqqii-pasand musannifiin kii anjuman ko meraa yih faislah achchhaa nahiiN lagaa. anjuman ko lagtaa thaa kih shaa3ir aur adiib filmoN meN jaa kar logoN ke dukh-dard se duur ho jaate haiN. Sardar Ja'fari jo ba3d meN xud filmoN meN giit likhne lage, ek din vuh mujh se kahne lage.

"Sahir dekh lo! ko'ii bhii taraqqii-pasand shaa3ir tumhaare janaaze meN nahiiN aa'e gaa."

mujhe Sardar Ja'fari se is se bihtar jumle kii ummiid bhii nahiiN thii. xair maiN ne apne xaas andaaz meN javaab diyaa.

"ko'ii baat nahiiN Sardar SaaHab! maiN aap sab taraqqii-pasand shu3araa-i-kiraam ke janaaze meN zaruur aa'uuN gaa!""

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Naseer

[Naseer]

On Monday, 4 November 2019 23:53:12 UTC, Naseer wrote:
> On Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:20:51 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 2:19:08 AM UTC-7, Naseer wrote:
> > > On Monday, 28 October 2019 09:04:40 UTC, Naseer wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, 27 October 2019 21:51:45 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> > > > > BARAY LOGON KI DILCHASP BAATEN

> itne meN Lala Kishan Laal Kaalra, jo kih is kaafii-haa'uus ke maalik the, aa pahuNche. Josh ne unheN tamaam maajraa sunaayaa aur Lala Kishan Laal ne un kii shervaanii unheN vaapas dilvaa dii. bairaa (apne maalik kii tarH) ko'ii shariif aadamii hii thaa varnah kyaa hotaa agar shalvaar kii bajaa'e shalvaar talab kar letaa!:-)

aaxirii fiqre meN meraa maqsad thaa, "varnah kyaa hotaa agar *shervaanii- kii bajaa'e shalvaar kaa mutaalibah kar detaa!

Naseer

[Zoya]

On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 5:53:12 PM UTC-6, Naseer wrote:

> itne meN Lala Kishan Laal Kaalra, jo kih is kaafii-haa'uus ke maalik the, aa pahuNche. Josh ne unheN tamaam maajraa sunaayaa aur Lala Kishan Laal ne un kii shervaanii unheN vaapas dilvaa dii. bairaa (apne maalik kii tarH) ko'ii shariif aadamii hii thaa varnah kyaa hotaa agar shalvaar kii bajaa'e shalvaar talab kar letaa!:-)
>
> Naseer

Naseer sahib,

pehle to aap 'salvaar' ko hii 'shalvaar' kehte the, lekin ab to 'shervaani' ko bhii 'shalvaar' kehne lage haiN! ab to aap kaa bas Rab hii raakhaa hai!!

aap kii nazr yeh sh'er:

Khuda kare k muhabbat meiN vo maqaam aaye
kisi ka naam luuN, lab pe tumhaara naam aaye :-))))))

mujhe lagtaa hai k aap ke ghar vaale bhii aaj kal hairaan pareshaan hoN ge k aap patluun, pyjaama, kuRtaa sab ko 'shalvaar shalvaar' kyuN kehne lage haiN! :-)

Khuda Khair kare.

Time to accept defeat. Finally. Give up buddy. :)

Gloating in victory,

____Zoya

[B.G. M.]

Lagtaa ha,i yeh Zoya se ko’ii jeet nahiiN saktaa!😉😔

“Ulfat meN haar-jeet kaa lagtaa nahiiN pataa
woh shart jo lagee bhi nahiiN thii, lagee rahii!”

~Saulat Zaidi
=======================

[Raj Kumar]

On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 3:55:49 PM UTC-8, Naseer wrote:

> >
> > bas gaye Panjaab meN, ruu’ii ko ruuN kahne lagay
> > dilbaraan-e-Lakhnau uu’ii ko uuN kahne lagay
> > aaj kal raNg-e-fazaa kuchh aur hai
> > baat karne kii adaa kuchh aur hai
> > aap ko tum, tum ko tuu aur tuu ko tuuN kahne lagay!!! ☺
> >
> > Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

> Raj Kumar SaaHib, aap ne muhaajir shaa3ir kaa naam nahiiN bataayaa!
>
> Naseer

***janaab Naseer sahib:

yeh ‘limerick’ hameN Canada ke shahr Edmonton meN aek Pakistani dost ne 1965-66 ke aas paas sunaayaa thaa. shaa’ir ka naam na unhoN ne bataayaa, na ham ne puuchhaa. bas, ‘limerick’ ka lutf uThaate rahe.
Yes --- it is muhaajir, not mahaajar!***

Raj Kumar saaHib, jin vaaqi3aat kaa zikr aap ne is laRii meN chheRaa hai un meN se aksar mere sune hu’e haiN. phir bhii qandi-i-muqarrar kyoN nah bhaa’e? lekin mere xayaal meN Bishop Shiin kaa laa-javaab qissah sab se ziyaadah muzhikah-xez hai! bahut bahit shukriyah!

***Naseer sahib, agar Bishop Sheen vaalaa qissa aap ko sab se ziyaada pasaNd aayaa hai to is meN ko’ii Hairat ki baat nahiiN. maiN Khud is vaaq’e se be-panaah mut’assir hu’aa thaa.
B/W --- should it be muzhikah, or mazhakah?
Of course, qandi-i-muqarrar has got to be qand-e-mukarrar.

aap ne yeh bhi farmaayaa hai k jin vaaq’eaat ka zikr maiN ne kiyaa hai un meN se aksar aap ke sune huye haiN --- no surprise here, but this may not be the case with some other friends. albatta, mujhe yaqeen hai k aap ne Maulaana Hasrat Mohaani vaalaa qissa pahle nahiiN sunaa hoga --- is liye k yeh qissa maiN ne kisi kitaab meN nahiiN dekhaa bal-k, 1969 meN, Chandigarh ki aek maHfil meN Professor Kanahiyya Lal Kapur ki zabaani sunaa thaa.

Kapur sahib D.M.College, Moga ke Principal the aur saath hi ANgrezi ke professor bhi. ilaava-aziiN, voh Urdu ke be-panaah aashiq the, kayee kitaaboN ke musannif aur aise suKhan-taraaz k unheN “Urdu tanz-o-mizaaH ka qutb-miinaar” kahaa jaataa thaa (is laqab meN, yaqeenan, un ki Ghair-ma’amuuli qaamat ka bhi kuchh haath thaa)!

ba-har-Haal, maiN ne cocha k, jaate jaate, kyuuN na aek dilchasp baat Professor Kapur sahib ke baare meN bhi sunaa’ii jaaye --- to suniye:

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aek din Kapur sahib ka kisi shaKhs se kisi baat par jhagRaa ho gayaa. dauraan-e-baHs, Kapur sahib ne kahaa, “maiN to aap ko aek shareef aadamii samajhtaa thaa”!

muKhaalif ne kahaa, “maiN bhi to aap ko aek shareef aadamii samajhtaa thaa”!

Kapur sahib bole: “aap to, Khair, Theek hi samjhe the --- Ghalatii par to maiN hi thaa”! ☺

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Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

[Naseer]

On Friday, 8 November 2019 00:51:46 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 3:55:49 PM UTC-8, Naseer wrote:
>
> > >
> > > bas gaye Panjaab meN, ruu’ii ko ruuN kahne lagay
> > > dilbaraan-e-Lakhnau uu’ii ko uuN kahne lagay
> > > aaj kal raNg-e-fazaa kuchh aur hai
> > > baat karne kii adaa kuchh aur hai
> > > aap ko tum, tum ko tuu aur tuu ko tuuN kahne lagay!!! ☺
> > >
> > > Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar
>
> > Raj Kumar SaaHib, aap ne muhaajir shaa3ir kaa naam nahiiN bataayaa!
> >
> > Naseer
>
> ***janaab Naseer sahib:
>
> yeh ‘limerick’ hameN Canada ke shahr Edmonton meN aek Pakistani dost ne 1965-66 ke aas paas sunaayaa thaa. shaa’ir ka naam na unhoN ne bataayaa, na ham ne puuchhaa. bas, ‘limerick’ ka lutf uThaate rahe.
> Yes --- it is muhaajir, not mahaajar!***
>
> Raj Kumar saaHib, jin vaaqi3aat kaa zikr aap ne is laRii meN chheRaa hai un meN se aksar mere sune hu’e haiN. phir bhii qandi-i-muqarrar kyoN nah bhaa’e? lekin mere xayaal meN Bishop Shiin kaa laa-javaab qissah sab se ziyaadah muzhikah-xez hai! bahut bahit shukriyah!

> ***Naseer sahib, agar Bishop Sheen vaalaa qissa aap ko sab se ziyaada pasaNd aayaa hai to is meN ko’ii Hairat ki baat nahiiN. maiN Khud is vaaq’e se be-panaah mut’assir hu’aa thaa.
> B/W --- should it be muzhikah, or mazhakah?
> Of course, qandi-i-muqarrar has got to be qand-e-mukarrar.

Raj Kumar SaaHib aadaab 3arz hai.

agar "munkir" inkaar karne vaalaa hai to "muzHik", haNsaane vaalaa ho gaa. aap hii bataa'iye kih "maHzak" kis zumre meN aa'e gaa?

"qandi-i-muqarrar" ko vaaqi3ii "qand-i-muqarrar" hii honaa chaahiye. 3ain usii tarH jaise "cocha" ko "sochaa" honaa chaahiye!:-)

> aap ne yeh bhi farmaayaa hai k jin vaaq’eaat ka zikr maiN ne kiyaa hai un meN se aksar aap ke sune huye haiN --- no surprise here, but this may not be the case with some other friends. albatta, mujhe yaqeen hai k aap ne Maulaana Hasrat Mohaani vaalaa qissa pahle nahiiN sunaa hoga --- is liye k yeh qissa maiN ne kisi kitaab meN nahiiN dekhaa bal-k, 1969 meN, Chandigarh ki aek maHfil meN Professor Kanahiyya Lal Kapur ki zabaani sunaa thaa.

janaab-i-3aalii, ham kitaaboN se naql nah kareN to aur kyaa kareN? Baabaa Aadam ke zamaane meN paidaa jo nahiiN hu'e!!:-) :-)

> Kapur sahib D.M.College, Moga ke Principal the aur saath hi ANgrezi ke professor bhi. ilaava-aziiN, voh Urdu ke be-panaah aashiq the, kayee kitaaboN ke musannif aur aise suKhan-taraaz k unheN “Urdu tanz-o-mizaaH ka qutb-miinaar” kahaa jaataa thaa (is laqab meN, yaqeenan, un ki Ghair-ma’amuuli qaamat ka bhi kuchh haath thaa)!
>
> ba-har-Haal, maiN ne cocha k, jaate jaate, kyuuN na aek dilchasp baat Professor Kapur sahib ke baare meN bhi sunaa’ii jaaye --- to suniye:
>
> -----------
>
> aek din Kapur sahib ka kisi shaKhs se kisi baat par jhagRaa ho gayaa. dauraan-e-baHs, Kapur sahib ne kahaa, “maiN to aap ko aek shareef aadamii samajhtaa thaa”!
>
> muKhaalif ne kahaa, “maiN bhi to aap ko aek shareef aadamii samajhtaa thaa”!
>
> Kapur sahib bole: “aap to, Khair, Theek hi samjhe the --- Ghalatii par to maiN hi thaa”! ☺
>

waah, yih hu'ii naa Haazir javaabii!

Naseer

[Naseer]

dostaan-i-maHfil, aadaab.

Haal hii meN Kaifi Azami kaa maHfil-i-ALUP meN zikr chhiRaa thaa. phir ba3d meN Sahir "shalvaar" ke ghere meN aa ga'e aur aate rahe! lekin ek aur shaa3ir, Sardar ja'fari, is musallas ke mukammal hone se apne daaman ko nah bachaa sake!

ek saabiqah xat meN maiN ne Sahir aur Sardar ja'fri ke darmiyaan kuchh kashiidagii kaa zikr kiyaa hai. aap ab Sahir kii zabaanii ek aur vaaqi3ah suniye jis meN Sardar Ja'fari kaa markazii kirdaar hai jab kih be-chaare Kaifi SaaHib Sahir kii tanqiid kaa nishaanah ban ga'e!

"jin dinoN adab meN istiHkaam ko le kar baHs chal rahii thii aur Urdu adab meN hone vaalii na3re-baazii aur numaa'ishii shaa3irii kaa tajziyah kiyaa jaa rahaa thaa, maiN ne Kaifi Azami kii shaa3irii par ek bharpuur tanqiidii mazmuun likhaa aur adabii subuut de kar yih saabit kar diyaa kih Kaifi Azami pahle to shaa3ir hii nahiiN aur agar maan bhii leN kih shaa3ir haiN to tiisre darje ke! yih mazmuun maiN ne "taraqqii-pasand musannifiin kii anjuman" kii ek miiTiNg ke haftah-vaar jalse meN paRhaa. janaab Sardar Ja'fari is jalse ke sadr the. mazmuun Hairat-aNgez hone ke baa-vujuud xuub pasand kiyaa gayaa. Sardar Ja'fari ne is mazmuun kaa asar kam karne ke liye har mumkin koshish kii, lekin havaa kaa rux badal chukaa thaa. saarii maHfil mere raNg meN raNgii thii aur mere Haq meN bhii thii.

agle hafte taraqqii-pasand musannifiin kii anjuman kii ek miiTiNg meN Sardar Ja'fari ne merii shaa3irii par ek mazmuun paRhaa. is mazmuun meN unhoN ne merii ma3ruuf nazm "Taj-Mahal" ke baare meN kahaa kih merii shaa3irii nichle darje kii aur ghaTiyaa shaa3irii hai aur Taj Mahal ko 3izzat kii nazroN se dekhaa jaanaa chaahiye kyoNkih yih hamaare qaumii virse kii malaamat hai. maiN ne mazmuun ko bahut hii ThaNDe dimaaGh se sunaa (is dauraan tamaam sun_ne vaaloN meN yih xauf paidaa ho chalaa thaa kih ab meraa javaab kyaa ho gaa) aur mazmuun mukammal hone par maiN ne un se ThaNDe lahje meN kahaa...

janaab Sardar Ja'fari SaaHab! is mazmuun se yih to saabit hotaa hai kih maiN shaa3ir hii nahiiN huuN yaa ghaTiyaa shaa3ir huuN lekin is se yih kahaaN saabit hotaa hai kih Kaifi Azami baRe aur avval darje ke shaa3ir haiN?!"

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Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

On Friday, 8 November 2019 00:51:46 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 3:55:49 PM UTC-8, Naseer wrote:
>
>
> Raj Kumar saaHib, jin vaaqi3aat kaa zikr aap ne is laRii meN chheRaa hai un meN se aksar mere sune hu’e haiN. phir bhii qandi-i-muqarrar kyoN nah bhaa’e? lekin mere xayaal meN Bishop Shiin kaa laa-javaab qissah sab se ziyaadah muzhikah-xez hai! bahut bahit shukriyah!

> ***Naseer sahib, agar Bishop Sheen vaalaa qissa aap ko sab se ziyaada pasaNd aayaa hai to is meN ko’ii Hairat ki baat nahiiN. maiN Khud is vaaq’e se be-panaah mut’assir hu’aa thaa.
> B/W --- should it be muzhikah, or mazhakah?

> Of course, qandi-i-muqarrar has got to be qand-e-mukarrar. ***

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Raj Kumar SaaHib, aadaab 3arz hai.

agar "munkir" inkaar karne vaalaa hai to "muzHik", haNsaane vaalaa ho gaa. aap hii bataa'iye kih "maHzak" kis zumre meN aa'e gaa?

***janaab Naseer sahib:

“muzHik” durust hai, MuzHikaat” bhi durust hai magar “muzHikah” durust nahiiN hai ---- saHiiH lafz “mazHakah” hi hai. is farq ki vajah kyaa hai, yeh to Platts sahib hi jaaneN.

agar meri maaneN to is farq ki vajah aap Platts sahib se ruu-ba-ruu puuchh leejiye ga jab aap unheN bahisht meN mileN ge! ☺
aur agar voh vahaaN na huye to maiN puuchh luuN ga!*** ☹

"qandi-i-muqarrar" ko vaaqi3ii "qand-i-muqarrar" hii honaa chaahiye.

***yahaaN aap ne “qandi” ko to “qand” kar liyaa magar “muqarrar” ko “muqarrar” hi rehne diyaa. aap jaise mahaa-purush se aisi "taqseer-e-mukarrar” ki qat’an ummeed na thii! ☺

vaise, agar aap “qandi” ko “qandi” hi rehne dete to kuchh mazaa’iqa na thaa; ham ise “shakar-qandi” samajh kar Khushii se qubuul kar lete!*** ☺

> aap ne yeh bhi farmaayaa hai k jin vaaq’eaat ka zikr maiN ne kiyaa hai un meN se aksar aap ke sune huye haiN --- no surprise here, but this may not be the case with some other friends. albatta, mujhe yaqeen hai k aap ne Maulaana Hasrat Mohaani vaalaa qissa pahle nahiiN sunaa hoga --- is liye k yeh qissa maiN ne kisi kitaab meN nahiiN dekhaa bal-k, 1969 meN, Chandigarh ki aek maHfil meN Professor Kanahiyya Lal Kapur ki zabaani sunaa thaa.

janaab-i-3aalii, ham kitaaboN se naql nah kareN to aur kyaa kareN? Baabaa Aadam ke zamaane meN paidaa jo nahiiN hu'e!!:-) :-)

***aap ki yeh baat to Khuub rahii, Naseer sahib, kyuuN-k maiN Khud kayee baar kah chukaa huuN k

mujh se jadeediyat ki umiideN? Khudaa panaah!
maiN Qais huuN, jahaan-e-kuhan kaa nishaaN huuN maiN!***

> -----------
>
> aek din Kapur sahib ka kisi shaKhs se kisi baat par jhagRaa ho gayaa. dauraan-e-baHs, Kapur sahib ne kahaa, “maiN to aap ko aek shareef aadamii samajhtaa thaa”!
>
> muKhaalif ne kahaa, “maiN bhi to aap ko aek shareef aadamii samajhtaa thaa”!
>
> Kapur sahib bole: “aap to, Khair, Theek hi samjhe the --- Ghalatii par to maiN hi thaa”! ☺
>

waah, yih hu'ii naa Haazir javaabii!

***janaab-e-man, Haazir-javaabii ki aek she’ri misaal bhi sunte jaa’iiye:

aaNkh milte hi hosh kho baiThe
kitne Haazir-javaab haiN ham log
[Parvez]

niyaaz-kesh, Raj Kumar***

[Naseer]

is meN ko'ii shak nahiiN, Raj Kumar SaaHib, kih merii "taqsiir-i-mukarrar", ek muzHikah baat hai! aaN-jahaanii Parkaash Nath Parvez kaa shi3r pesh karne kaa shukriyah.

Naseer

[Afzal A. Khan]

On 11/9/2019 1:09 AM, Naseer wrote:



> is meN ko'ii shak nahiiN, Raj Kumar SaaHib, kih merii "taqsiir-i-mukarrar", ek muzHikah baat hai! aaN-jahaanii Parkaash Nath Parvez kaa shi3r pesh karne kaa shukriyah.
>
> Naseer

Ho sakta hai k aap ek lafz yahaaN bhool gaye hoN.



Afzal

[Naseer]

No, the word you have in mind was deliberately missed out, Afzal SaaHib!

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

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yaaraan-e-maHfil:

aaj maiN aap ko chaNd aek baateN Firaq Gorakhpuri se mut’alliq sunaauuN ga!

vaazeH ho k, Josh M. ke Pakistan chale jaane ke ba’ad, Firaq sahib Hindustan ke mumtaaz-tareeN Urdu shaa’ir maane jaate the aur voh barsoN aasmaan-e-adab par hama-tan muHeet rahe!

ab un ke baare meN chaNd baateN:

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1. U.P. ke kisii shahr meN mushaa’ira ho rahaa thaa jahaaN Firaq sahib bhi tashreef-farmaa the. is mushaa’ire meN, aek nau-javaan shaa’ir ne apna kalaam paRh kar Haazireen se be-panaah daad Haasil kii.

mushaa’ira chaltaa rahaa, kayee sho’araa ne apna kalaam paRhaa aur, bil-aaKhir, Firaq sahib ki baarii aa’ii. ab unhoN ne bhi apna kalaam paRhaa aur, Hasb-e-ma’amuul, Dher saarii daad Haasil kii.

ab mushaa’ira iKhtetaam par thaa --- taaham, Haazireen ne shor machaayaa k us nau-javaan shaa’ir ko do-baarah bulaayaa jaaye. naazim-e-mushaa’ira shash-o-paNj meN paR gaye k jab Firaq sahib paRh chuke haiN to phir kisii aur shaa’ir ko kaise bulaayaa jaa sakta hai?

Khair, Haazireen ki pur-zor maaNg ko dekhte huye, Firaq sahib ne naazim-e-mushaa’ira se kahaa, “agar log itna chaahate haiN to phir us shaa’ir ko bulaa hi leejiye”. so, aisa hi hu’aa aur voh sahib stage par aaye, microphone liyaa aur ghabraate huye kahaa:

“Haazireen, jab Firaq sahib apna kalaam paRh chuke haiN to bhalaa maiN in ke ba’ad paRhne ki jur’at kaise kar sakta huuN”?

yeh sunte hi, Firaq sahib ne microphone apne haath meN liyaa aur kahaa:
“are miyaaN, agar tum mere ba’ad paidaa hone ki jur’at kar sakte ho to kalaam paRhne meN kyaa harj hai”? ☺ ☺ ☺

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2. aek aur mushaa’ire meN, jahaaN Firaq sahib bhi maujuud the, aek nau-javaan shaa’ir ne apni Ghazal paRhii jis ka aek she’r saam’een ko be-Hadd pasaNd aayaa aur unhoN ne us she’r par jii khol kar daad dii!

jab daad ka shor Khatm hu’aa to naazim-e-mushaa’ira ne us shaa’ir se Khitaab karte huye kahaa, “vaah, vaa, sahib. aap ka yeh she’r to ain Firaq ki Takkar ka hai”.

yeh sunte hi, Firaq sahib chauNke aur naazim-e-mushaa’ira se Khitaab karte huye bole,” are miyaaN, ham ne aaj tak bicycle ki Takkar taaNge se to sunii thii aur bicycle ki Takkar moTar-gaaRii se bhi sunii thii --- magar bicycle ki Takkar “havaa’ii jahaaz” se to kabhii nahiiN sunii thii! ☺ ☺ ☺

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3. aek adabii da’avat meN bahut saare sho’araa madd’au the, jin meN Firaq sahib bar-sar-e-fahrist the. jab khaane ka vaqt aayaa aur sabhi sho’araa ne dastar-Khwaan par nishast sambhaali to, ittefaaq se, Firaq sahib ki baGhal meN Jagan Nath Azad baithe the.

khaane ke dauraan, Firaq sahib ne (rauGhan-josh ki ta’areef karte huye) Azad sahib se kahaa, ”aap yeh rauGhan-josh zaruur chakhiye ga; nihaayat maze-daar hai “. is sujhaao par, Azad sahib ne aek ghisaa-piTaa, ma’ayuub sa, jumla kahaa:

”Huzuur, aap khaaiye. ham to khaate hi rahte haiN”! ☹

Firaq bole --- ”magar yeh to ‘desi ghee’ meN pakaa hai”!

yeh sun kar, Azad sahib khisyaane se ho kar rah gaye! ☺

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4. maiN, 1962 meN, aek Summer School ke silsile meN do hafte ke liye Shimle meN muqiim thaa. aek shaam Mall Road par Tahalte Tahalte, meri mulaaqaat Bawa Gopal Krishan MaGhmuum se ho ga’ii. voh Pavez sahib ke dost the, is liye mere ta’aaruf par be-Had Khush huye, mujhe apne paas aek bench par biThaa liyaa aur baateN karne lage.

MaGhmuum sahib aek achchhe Khaasse shaa’ir the aur unheN taHqeeq-o-tajassus ka bahut shauq tha. jis se milte, use apna Dher saaraa kalaam sunaate aur kayee dichasp adabii vaaq’eaat ka bhi zikr karte. unhoN ne mujhe apni teen-chaar GhazleN (ba-aavaaz-e-bulaNd) sunaa kar, aek dilchasp kahaani Firaq sahib ke baare meN sunaa’ii.

farmaayaa k Rawalpindi ke aek Indo-Pak mushaa’ire meN, deegar sho’araa ke saath, Firaaq sahib bhi tashreef farmaa the. us mushaa’ire ki mahmaan-e-Khusuusi Begum Liaqat Ali Khan theeN aur unheN jaa-e-mushaa’ira tak pahuNchne meN bahut der ho ga’ii. mutazmeen shash-o-paNj meN the k kyaa kareN? kab Begum saaHiba aayeN aur kab mushaa’ire ki kaar-ravaaii shuruu’a ho?

bil-aaKhir, Begum saaHiba aa pahuNcheeN. unhoN ne apni seat sambhaali hi thi k naazim-e-mushaa’ira ne mike uthaayaa aur un ka Khair-maqdam karne lage. juNhii unhoN ne Khair-maqdam ka farz adaa kiyaa, Firaq sahib ne mike un ke haath se apne haath meN liyaa aur Begum saaHiba ki jaanib ruKh kar ke yeh she’r paRhaa:

tumheN to sab se pahle bazm meN maujuud honaa thaa
zamaana kyaa kahe ga --- sham’a parvaanoN ke ba’ad aa’ii? ☺

aan ki aan meN, bazm qahqaha-zaar ban ga’ii aur, ba-qaul-e-raavii, Firaq sahib ne aek hi she’r paRh kar mushaa’ira luuT liyaa!

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Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

P.S. yeh aaKhiri she’r aap meN se beshtar dostoN ne pahle bhi sun rakkhaa hogaa magar yeh dilchasp kahaani, jo is she’r se vaabasta hai, shaayad aap ke liye na’ii ho! R.K.

[Anil Kala]

>
> farmaayaa k Rawalpindi ke aek Indo-Pak mushaa’ire meN, deegar sho’araa ke saath, Firaaq sahib bhi tashreef farmaa the. us mushaa’ire ki mahmaan-e-Khusuusi Begum Liaqat Ali Khan theeN aur unheN jaa-e-mushaa’ira tak pahuNchne meN bahut der ho ga’ii. mutazmeen shash-o-paNj meN the k kyaa kareN? kab Begum saaHiba aayeN aur kab mushaa’ire ki kaar-ravaaii shuruu’a ho?
>

Raj Saahib
aadaab!

bohat hi dilchasp laRii chal rahi hai ... jaarii rakheN.

lafz 'kaar-ravaaii' dekh kar hairat huii. Hindi meN ise 'kaaryavaahii' likha jaataa hai

aadaab arz hai

Anil

[Naseer]

Anil SaaHib, how would you explain the make-up of "kaaryaavaahii" in respect of its component parts?

Naseer

[Afzal A. Khan]

Naseer Saheb ke sawaal ka jawaab to shaayad ba'd men mil
jaayega.......

MaiN fil~Haal itna kehna chaahta hooN k

1. Yeh Mushaa'ira tha ---- Kavi sammelan naheeN.

2. Firaaq bun'yaadi taur par Urdu ke shaa'ir the --- Urdu
ek tarah se un ka "oRHna~bichhona" thi. Agar unhoN ne
Urdu lafz "kaar-ravaaii" iste'maal kiya to is men Hairaani
ki kya baat hai.

3. Is NewsGroup ka ta'alluq bhi Urdu se hi hai. Agar RKS ne
is lateefe men Urdu lafz iste'maal kiya to yeh "swabhaavik"
hai. (I hope I am right about this hindi word.) Also, he
was quoting what Firaq actually said. So why should he be
expected to substitute a hindi word for an Urdu word ?

4. RKS KHud apna kalaam yahaaN pesh karte rehte hain --- un ka
shumaar bhi Urdu shaa'iroN men hi hota hai.



Afzal

[Anil Kala]

>
> > Anil
>
> Anil SaaHib, how would you explain the make-up of "kaaryaavaahii" in respect of its component parts?
>
> Naseer

Naseer Saahib
aadaab!

I think Hindi waalas have corrupted the word to make it more palatable for them. Whereas 'Kaarya' makes sense vaahi doesn't. So obviously word is corrupted. May be someone else can throw light on it but कार्यवाही is fairly common usage for 'proceedings' in Hindi. For instance Lok-Sabha ki kaaryavaahi sthagit kar di gaii hai ( Lok Sabha session postponed) etc May be Irfan Saahib can help.

Anil

[Naseer]

On Monday, 11 November 2019 20:43:54 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
>
>
> 2. aek aur mushaa’ire meN, jahaaN Firaq sahib bhi maujuud the, aek nau-javaan shaa’ir ne apni Ghazal paRhii jis ka aek she’r saam’een ko be-Hadd pasaNd aayaa aur unhoN ne us she’r par jii khol kar daad dii!
>
> jab daad ka shor Khatm hu’aa to naazim-e-mushaa’ira ne us shaa’ir se Khitaab karte huye kahaa, “vaah, vaa, sahib. aap ka yeh she’r to ain Firaq ki Takkar ka hai”.
>
> yeh sunte hi, Firaq sahib chauNke aur naazim-e-mushaa’ira se Khitaab karte huye bole,” are miyaaN, ham ne aaj tak bicycle ki Takkar taaNge se to sunii thii aur bicycle ki Takkar moTar-gaaRii se bhi sunii thii --- magar bicycle ki Takkar “havaa’ii jahaaz” se to kabhii nahiiN sunii thii! ☺ ☺ ☺
>
> ------------

aath meN liyaa aur Begum saaHiba ki jaanib ruKh kar ke yeh she’r paRhaa:
>
> tumheN to sab se pahle bazm meN maujuud honaa thaa
> zamaana kyaa kahe ga --- sham’a parvaanoN ke ba’ad aa’ii? ☺
>
> aan ki aan meN, bazm qahqaha-zaar ban ga’ii aur, ba-qaul-e-raavii, Firaq sahib ne aek hi she’r paRh kar mushaa’ira luuT liyaa!
>
> ------------
>
> Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar
>
> P.S. yeh aaKhiri she’r aap meN se beshtar dostoN ne pahle bhi sun rakkhaa hogaa magar yeh dilchasp kahaani, jo is she’r se vaabasta hai, shaayad aap ke liye na’ii ho! R.K.

Raj Kumar SaaHib, aadaab 3arz hai.

Raj Kumar SaaHib, kuchh farq nahiiN paRtaa agar aap kaa bataayaa hu'aa ko'ii vaaqi3ah kisii dost ne pahle sun rakhaa hai yaa un kaa paRhaa hu'aa hai. kyaa yih ham sab ke liye kaafii nahiiN hai kih aap itnii miHnat se aur jaaN-fishaanii se hamaarii xushnuudii aur taskiin ke liye itne dil-chasp vaaqi3aat bayaan kar rahe haiN? ham aap kii is 3inaayat ke liye tah-i-dil se shukr-guzaar haiN.

jo qissah aap ne Janaab-i-Firaq aur nau-javaan shaa3ir ke maa-bain sunaayaa hai, us kii tafsiil ek kitaab meN qadre muxtalif hai...

"Gaurakhpur se vaa-bastah ek aur latiifah hai jo Firaq SaaHib xud bayaan kiyaa karte the.

vahaaN ek mushaa3irah mun3aqid hu'aa jis meN Firaq SaaHib xaas taur se mad3uu the. jab vuh mushaa3irah-gaah meN pahuNche, is ke thoRii der ba3d ek saaHibzaade kaa naam pukaaraa gayaa. yih saaHibzaade har misr3e se pahle Firaq SaaHib ko muxaatib karte aur tavajjuh kii darxvaast karte. Firaq SaaHib majbuur-an mutavajjuh ho ga'e. saaHibzaade ne ek shi3r paRhaa jo xud Firaq SaaHib ke ek shi3r kaa huu ba-huu charbah thaa. shi3r sun kar Firaq SaaHib ne kahaa.

bhaa'ii yih shi3r meraa hai.

aap kaa shi3r yuuN hai. SaaHibzaade ne un kaa shi3r paRh kar sunaayaa.

yih shi3r ab bhii meraa hai. Firaq SaaHib ne samjhaate hu'e kahaa.

jii ittifaaq hai. xayaal Takraa gayaa. saaHibzaade ne kahaa

Firaq SaaHib se na rahaa gayaa aur bole.

miyaaN baRe baRe Takraa'o sune. saa'ikal saa'ikal kaa Takraa'o, saa'ikal-moTar kaa Takraa'o magar saa'ikal havaa'ii-jahaaz kaa Takraa'o aaj hii sun rahaa huuN.

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Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

***janaab Anil sahib:

I don’t think anybody has corrupted this word; it has a fairly logical structure. Not only does the word “kaarya” make sense, “vaahii” does too. It derives from the Sanskrit word “vaahan”, which means carrying, conducting, etc. So, the word “kaarya-vaahi” is quite appropriate for the “proceedings (of a session)”.

It is remarkable that the words “kaar-ravaa’ii” and “kaarya-vaahi” sound so similar!

R.K.***

[Irfan Abid]

Afzal sb, aadaab arz hai!

mere Khayaal meN Anil sb kii hairat kii vajh yih nahiiN ki Firaq sb ne lafz-e-kaar.ravaaii istemaal kiyaa, kaarya.waahi nahiiN. balki unheN hairat shaayad is liye ho rahii hai ki Urdu aur Hindi meN do alfaaz aise haiN jo ek duusre se is qadar milte julte haiN. Please see more on this in my reply to Anil sb.

niyaazmand,
Irfan :Abid:

[Raj Kumar]

On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 5:54:37 AM UTC-8, Naseer wrote:

Raj Kumar SaaHib, kuchh farq nahiiN paRtaa agar aap kaa bataayaa hu'aa ko'ii vaaqi3ah kisii dost ne pahle sun rakhaa hai yaa un kaa paRhaa hu'aa hai. kyaa yih ham sab ke liye kaafii nahiiN hai kih aap itnii miHnat se aur jaaN-fishaanii se hamaarii xushnuudii aur taskiin ke liye itne dil-chasp vaaqi3aat bayaan kar rahe haiN? ham aap kii is 3inaayat ke liye tah-i-dil se shukr-guzaar haiN.

***janaab Naseer sahib:

meri is Haqeer kaavish par aap ki jaanib se Hausala-afzaa’ii ke yeh alfaaz kuchh aise haiN jaise aek suukhe khet par baarish ke chhiiNTe! is baNda-navaazii ke liye Khaaksaar ki jaanib se aap ka Dher saaraa shukriya!***

jo qissah aap ne Janaab-i-Firaq aur nau-javaan shaa3ir ke maa-bain sunaayaa hai, us kii tafsiil ek kitaab meN qadre muxtalif hai...

"Gaurakhpur se vaa-bastah ek aur latiifah hai jo Firaq SaaHib xud bayaan kiyaa karte the.

vahaaN ek mushaa3irah mun3aqid hu'aa jis meN Firaq SaaHib xaas taur se mad3uu the. jab vuh mushaa3irah-gaah meN pahuNche, is ke thoRii der ba3d ek saaHibzaade kaa naam pukaaraa gayaa. yih saaHibzaade har misr3e se pahle Firaq SaaHib ko muxaatib karte aur tavajjuh kii darxvaast karte. Firaq SaaHib majbuur-an mutavajjuh ho ga'e. saaHibzaade ne ek shi3r paRhaa jo xud Firaq SaaHib ke ek shi3r kaa huu ba-huu charbah thaa. shi3r sun kar Firaq SaaHib ne kahaa.

bhaa'ii yih shi3r meraa hai.

aap kaa shi3r yuuN hai. SaaHibzaade ne un kaa shi3r paRh kar sunaayaa.

yih shi3r ab bhii meraa hai. Firaq SaaHib ne samjhaate hu'e kahaa.

jii ittifaaq hai. xayaal Takraa gayaa. saaHibzaade ne kahaa

Firaq SaaHib se na rahaa gayaa aur bole.

miyaaN baRe baRe Takraa'o sune. saa'ikal saa'ikal kaa Takraa'o, saa'ikal-moTar kaa Takraa'o magar saa'ikal havaa'ii-jahaaz kaa Takraa'o aaj hii sun rahaa huuN.

***is qisse ki jo shakl aap ne pesh ki hai, bahut achchhi hai, go k is ka lubb-e-lubaab vaisa hi hai jaisa k meri taHreer ka tha. goyaa, tafseel agarche muKhtalif hai, nateeja vuhi hai!

is zimn meN, maiN aek baat arz karna chaahuuN ga --- voh yeh k ab tak jo kuchh maiN ne is laRii meN likkhaa hai, sab apne Haafize ki binaa par likkhaa hai; kisii kitaaab ka sahaara nahiiN liyaa. ab Haafize meN to vuhii kuchh hai jo kabhi sunaa tha yaa paRhaa tha. aur yeh kahna bahut mushkil hai k jo sunaa tha, kis se sunaa tha yaa jo paRhaa tha, kahaaN paRhaa tha. zaruuri baat yeh hai k insaan jo kuchh us ke Haafize meN hai use dunyaa-e-adab ki amaanat samjhe aur is amaanat meN Khiyaanat na kare!

ba-har-Haal, mujhe is laRii meN abhi bahut kuchh kahna hai. maiN koshish karuuN ga k hafte meN do baar aek na’ii qist pesh karuuN. yaar-dostoN se bhi guzaarish hai k voh, apni samajh-buujh ke mutaabiq, is laRii meN izaafa karte raheN.

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

[Irfan Abid]

Anil sb, aadaaz arz hai!

Hindi aur Urdu meN jo alfaaz mushtarikah (common) haiN vuh umuuman ek zabaan se duusrii meN muntaqil hue haiN (yaanii Urdu se Hindi yaa Hindi se Urdu meN.) merii daanist meN aisaa koii lafz nahiiN jo Hindi aur Urdu meN ek jaisii (yaa taqriiban ek jaisii) shakl meN ho aur us kaa maaKhiz muKhtalif ho. kaar.ravaaii aur kaarya.vaahii ko dekh kar lagtaa hai ki yih alfaaz muKhtalif zabaanoN se aaye haiN (kaar.ravaaii Farsi se aur kaarya.vaahii Sanskrit se) aur phir bhii taqriiban ek jaise haiN. lekin merii naachiiz raae meN aisaa nahiiN hai. meraa Khayaal hai ki kaarya.vaahii kaar.ravaaii se vaabasta hai. tafsiil hasb-e-zel hai.

kaar.ravaaii do alfaaz kaa murakkab hai – kaar (kaam) aur ravaaii (puuraa karnaa), jo ki ba.zaat.e.Khud ravaa (puraa karne vaalaa) se banaa hai. yih donoN alfaaz Farsi ke haiN aur Urdu luGhaat meN alag alag darj haiN (maslan Feroz-ul-LuGhaat meN.) is ke bar.aks kaarya.vaahii ke TukRe kaarya aur vaahii nahiiN haiN. kaarya (kaam) to Sanskrit kaa lafz hai, lekin vaahii Sanskrit kaa lafz nahiiN hai. vaahii Hindi ke shabdkosh meN nahiiN milegaa. Hindi meN murakkab banaane kaa tariiqaa bhii vaahii ke vujuud kii pairavii nahiiN kartaa. pahlii nazar meN aisaa mahsuus hotaa hai ki vaahii, vahan karnaa (to carry) se banaa hai. lekin agar vahan karnaa yahaaN maqsuud hotaa to sahiih murakkab thaa kaarya.vahan (not kaarya.vaahii.) Gharaz yih ki aap kaa Khayaal sahiih hai. kaarya.vaahii dar-asl kaar.ravaaii hii hai, bas is kaa thoRaa saa Hindi.karan ho gayaa hai.

Does this mean no two similar sounding words in Urdu and Hindi can have different sources? I can’t say that. All I am saying is that I have not come across any such examples. There may be some out there that sound alike, but come from Persian and Sanskrit, respectively. If it’s true, it must be by chance. I don’t think it will be because the source languages of both the words are connected in some way. I have come across articles that claim Vedic Sankrit and Old Persian come from the same source language, but they were not very convincing (although I am not ruling out this possibility completely.)

niyaazmand,
Irfan :Abid:

[Afzal A. Khan]

On 11/14/2019 5:44 PM, Irfan Abid wrote:



> On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 11:24:18 AM UTC-5, Afzal A. Khan wrote:


>> On 11/12/2019 3:38 AM, Naseer wrote:


>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tuesday, 12 November 2019 06:17:25 UTC, Anil Kala wrote:


>>>>>
>>>>> farmaayaa k Rawalpindi ke aek Indo-Pak mushaa’ire meN, deegar sho’araa ke saath, Firaaq sahib bhi tashreef farmaa the. us mushaa’ire ki mahmaan-e-Khusuusi Begum Liaqat Ali Khan theeN aur unheN jaa-e-mushaa’ira tak pahuNchne meN bahut der ho ga’ii. mutazmeen shash-o-paNj meN the k kyaa kareN? kab Begum saaHiba aayeN aur kab mushaa’ire ki kaar-ravaaii shuruu’a ho?
>>>>>

>>>>

'Irfan Saheb,

With due respect.......

There is an English phrase, often used in judicial cases :

"Benefit of doubt"

Quite possibly, your explanation is on account of this
phrase.

Shri AK clearly expressed his astonishment (maybe, "disappointment"
would be more appropriate here) that Firaq used an Urdu word here,
rather than another word which can justifiably be called a hindi
word. As they say, AK "made no bones about it".

That should clarify my 4-point reply.

****************

I daresay there may be a great many words in the two languages that
may be what you call "ek doosre se milte julte".

*****************

Around a decade back, UVR Saheb and myself had a lively debate on
this very issue. And I recall quoting a simple sentence in that
debate :

"MaiN kal Dehli ja raha hooN"

My question was : Should this be called a hindi sentence or an
Urdu sentence. As you will agree, this poser is rather pointless.
A hindi~waala and an Urdu writer would both use the same i.e.
identical sentence to convey what they were trying to say.

In such cases, I would submit, there is no need to try and
find out elements that would determine whether such a sentence or
even a single such word is either hindi or Urdu. {The operative
words here are "In such cases.."}

*****************

At the same time, I am sure you will agree that these two
words "kaar-ravaaii" and "kaaryavaahi"belong unmistakably to
Urdu and hindi respectively.

Please, therefore, permit me to say that Shri AK's comment
does not quite accord with your explanation.


Just my view.



Afzal

[Anil Kala]

> Anil sb, aadaaz arz hai!
>
> Hindi aur Urdu meN jo alfaaz mushtarikah (common) haiN vuh umuuman ek zabaan se duusrii meN muntaqil hue haiN (yaanii Urdu se Hindi yaa Hindi se Urdu meN.) merii daanist meN aisaa koii lafz nahiiN jo Hindi aur Urdu meN ek jaisii (yaa taqriiban ek jaisii) shakl meN ho aur us kaa maaKhiz muKhtalif ho. kaar.ravaaii aur kaarya.vaahii ko dekh kar lagtaa hai ki yih alfaaz muKhtalif zabaanoN se aaye haiN (kaar.ravaaii Farsi se aur kaarya.vaahii Sanskrit se) aur phir bhii taqriiban ek jaise haiN. lekin merii naachiiz raae meN aisaa nahiiN hai. meraa Khayaal hai ki kaarya.vaahii kaar.ravaaii se vaabasta hai. tafsiil hasb-e-zel hai.
>
> kaar.ravaaii do alfaaz kaa murakkab hai – kaar (kaam) aur ravaaii (puuraa karnaa), jo ki ba.zaat.e.Khud ravaa (puraa karne vaalaa) se banaa hai. yih donoN alfaaz Farsi ke haiN aur Urdu luGhaat meN alag alag darj haiN (maslan Feroz-ul-LuGhaat meN.) is ke bar.aks kaarya.vaahii ke TukRe kaarya aur vaahii nahiiN haiN. kaarya (kaam) to Sanskrit kaa lafz hai, lekin vaahii Sanskrit kaa lafz nahiiN hai. vaahii Hindi ke shabdkosh meN nahiiN milegaa. Hindi meN murakkab banaane kaa tariiqaa bhii vaahii ke vujuud kii pairavii nahiiN kartaa. pahlii nazar meN aisaa mahsuus hotaa hai ki vaahii, vahan karnaa (to carry) se banaa hai. lekin agar vahan karnaa yahaaN maqsuud hotaa to sahiih murakkab thaa kaarya.vahan (not kaarya.vaahii.) Gharaz yih ki aap kaa Khayaal sahiih hai. kaarya.vaahii dar-asl kaar.ravaaii hii hai, bas is kaa thoRaa saa Hindi.karan ho gayaa hai.
>
> Does this mean no two similar sounding words in Urdu and Hindi can have different sources? I can’t say that. All I am saying is that I have not come across any such examples. There may be some out there that sound alike, but come from Persian and Sanskrit, respectively. If it’s true, it must be by chance. I don’t think it will be because the source languages of both the words are connected in some way. I have come across articles that claim Vedic Sankrit and Old Persian come from the same source language, but they were not very convincing (although I am not ruling out this possibility completely.)
>
> niyaazmand,
> Irfan :Abid:

Irfan Saahib

aadaab!

As always you provide such an elaborate explanation, this time is no exception and you have understood reason for my surprise so accurately. dar-asal jab maiNe Raj Saahib ki tahriir men lafz 'kaar-ravaaii' paRhaa, usi waqt mujhe aNdaaza ho gayaa tha ki lafz ki sahi suurat yahi hai jab.ke umr bhar maiN yahi samajhtaa rahaa tha ke 'kaaryavaahi' hi sahi lafz hai.

aap bilkul hi theek farmaa rahe haiN ke 'kaaryavaahi' , kaar-ravaaii ka Hindi.karan hai .

I have also come to know that Avestan (ancient Farsi) and Vedic Sanskrit evolved from a common proto Indo-Iranian language but that was a few thousands years back after which each evolved independently.

aap ka bohat shukriya,


Khair aNdesh

Anil

[Anil Kala]

But Raj Saahib 'Kaaryavaahii' does not appear in Platts even as corrupted.


Anil

[Naseer]

Thank you Raj Kumar and Irfan SaaHibaan for your explanations into the word कार्यवाही. When I asked Anil SaaHib, I genuinely wanted to know how this word was constructed. After your replies, I have carried out a bit of digging and am able to present my "findings", which I hope will offer a reasonable clarification for the composition of this word.

"kaaryavaahii" is not found in Platts but it is there in more modern Hindi dictionaries.

The Oxford Hindi Dictionary - R.S. McGregor

कार्य kāryă [S.], m ˚वाही, adj. & f. managing; = काररवाई

A Practical Hindi English Dictinary- Mahendra Chaturvedi

कार्यवाही ka:ryva:hi: (nf) action; proceedings.

Neither of these dictionaries include an entry for वाही.

I have access to a couple of "Classic" Sanskrit Dictionaries and कार्यवाही is not found in either of them. This to my mind implies a more recent vintage for this word.

The entries given below are from A Practical Sanskrit Dictionary- Arthur Anthony Macdonell

कार्य kâr-yã to be done, made, performed, employed, &c. (v. √kri); n. design, purpose, object, interest; duty; business; service; matter, affair; lawsuit; effect, product: -m, with in. of thing and g. of pers., something is of use to, some one cares about; in. on account of.

वाह vâh-á (--°) drawing, conveying; carrying; flowing (river); m. draught animal; horse; bull; vehicle, carriage: --° a. having -- as one's vehicle, riding on or in; n. drawing; riding, driving; bearing, carrying; current [√vah].

From वाह one can obtain the following (examples from McGregor)

वाहक vāhak [S.], adj. & m. 1. adj. & m. esp. -वाहक. transporting, carrying; carrier, &c. 2. m. a carrier, haulier. 3. porter. — पत्र-वाहक, m. bearer of a letter.

वाहन vāhan [S.], m. 1. transporting, conveying. 2. a vehicle. 3. any animal used in riding or in freighting goods.

It is clear from these entries that कार्यवाही is made from कार्य and वाह. The ो suffix I would suggest is the Persian ی as found in such words as dost-ii, daanaa-ii and kaar-ravaa-ii.

I would sum up by saying that कार्यवाही is not a "corrupted" form of "کارروائی" but a direct conversion to convey the same or similar meaning. An example in point is Urdu nek-xvaahishaat > shubh-kaamnaa'eN or shab ba-xair > shubh-raatri in Hindi.

Sanskrit and Old Persian along with Latin and Greek have the same origins in a language called Hittite. So, finding words in Persian and Sanskrit that show remarkable similarity should not come as a surprise to anyone. Persian maadar, Sanskrit maataa and English mother is a good example. An example of an exact equivalent of a Persian word رنگ rang is the Sanskrit...

रङ्ग raṅg-a [√rañg] colour; nasal colouring of a vowel (gr.); [bright scene], theatre, stage, scene, arena; theatrical audience; N.: -kâra, m. dyer; -kara, m. actor; gladiator; -dvâr, f. stage-door; -dvâra, n. prologue in a play; -nâtha, m. N.; -patâkâ, f. N.; -bhûmi, f. battle-field; -maṅgala, n. festival on the stage; -mandapa, play-house, theatre; -vat-î, f. N.; -vastu, n. colouring matter; -vâra̮aṅganâ, f. stage-dancer; -̮aṅgana, n. arena; -̮avatarana, n. entrance on the stage; histrionic profession; -̮avatâraka, -̮avatârin, m. stage-player, actor.

Finally, a disection into kaar-ravaa-ii

I think all of us have no problem with the common word "kaar" as "kaar-xaanah" (A work-shop/factory).

rav is the root of the Persian word raftan to go (janaa/chalnaa). An alif is added to rav > ravaa which forms an adjective, in the same way "daan-aa" is formed from "daan" (jaan_naa).

P روا rawā (part. n. of raftan; see raw) , part. adj. Going; flowing; passing; current; lawful, right; equitable, reasonable; admissible, allowable; approved, tolerated; worthy of reception or attention; worthy, proper, right, suitable

And after adding the -ii suffix, hey presto, we have the recipe for "work-flowing-process" or "proceedings"!

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

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yaaraan-e-maHfil:

meri pichhli qist ke aek hi lafz ne is maHfil ki raunaq ko yuuN do-baalaa kiyaa k bas dekhte hi bane. ab jab-k voh raunaq apni dil-kashii ke jauhar dikhaa chukii hai to maiN ne sochaa k ab kyuuN na is laRii ki “kaarya-vaahi” ko aage baRhaaya jaaye?
[Right, Anil sahib?]. ☺

to, leejiye, saaHibaan-o-saaHibaat ------- maiN aaj aap ko aek aisa qissa sunaauuN ga jo tanz-o-mizaaH ke ustaad shaa’ir janaab Akbar Allahabaadi se mut’alliq hai. vaazeH ho k peshe ke liHaaz se Akbar aek Deputy Collector the, magar apni pur-asar manzuumaat (jin ki zaKhaamat bhi kuchh kam na thii) ki ba-daulat voh Urdu adab meN aisa muqaam paa gaye the jise bahut kam sho’araa paa sake haiN.

ittefaaq se, un ke aek farzaNd (jin ka naam mujhe ma’aluum nahiiN) Allahabad meN Magistrate ho gaye the.

aek din Akbar sahib apne beTe se milne un ke daftar gaye. barKhurdaar kisi sarkaari uljhan meN mubtalaa the, is liye vahaaN ke kaar-kunoN ne Akbar sahib ko un ke beTe ke ‘waiting room’ meN biThaa diyaa aur kahaa k “saab abhi aap ko bulaayeN ge”! Akbar vahaaN baiThe baiThe aek kitaab ka mutaal’ea karne lage aur saath hi saath apne beTe ke bulaave ka intezaar.

itni der meN, do aur ashKhaas ‘saab’ se milne aaye aur unheN bhi usi ‘waiting room’ meN biThaa diyaa gayaa. voh ashKhaas Akbar A. ke naam se to vaaqif the (bhalaa puure Allahabaad meN kaun hoga jo is naam se bahra-var na hoga?) magar voh log Akbar sahib ki shakl-o-suurat se naa-vaaqif the. is liye, voh dono aapas meN baateN karte rahe aur Akbar sahib se du’aa salaam tak na kii. Akbar is baat par qadre raNjuur to huye magar kyaa karte --- kabhi un ki taraf dekhte to kabhi apni kitaab ki taraf!

bil-aaKhir, sahib-zaade bhaage bhaage ‘waiting room’ meN aaye, abba-jaan se baGhal-giir huye, aur phir un do ashKhaas ki taraf rujoo’a kiyaa aur kahaa,
“aap in se miliye, yeh mere vaalid sahib haiN”.

yeh jumla sunte hi, voh ashKhaas to laRkharaa se gaye aur haaNpte-kaaNpate un meN se aek shaKhs bolaa: “to yeh haiN janaab-e-Akbar Allahabaadi? aise naamii-giraami shaa’ir magar jaa-e-taqseer k ham GhaafiloN ne inheN pahchaana tak nahiiN”! duusra bola: ”yeh taqseer nahiiN hai, sar-aa-sar gunaah hai k Hindustaan ki aisi mumtaaz hastii hamaare paas maujuud rahi aur ham gunah-gaar idhar udhar ki baateN karte rahe. agar ham in se nayaaz paate to yaqeenan apni auqaat baRhaate”!

Akbar yeh guft-guu chup-chaap sunte rahe aur zer-e-lab muskuraate rahe. jab vaqt aayaa to farmaayaa: “saahibaan, aap itne pareshaan kyuuN ho rahe haiN? aisi baateN to hoti hi rahti haiN. agar aap chaaheN to maiN, aap ki tashaffi ke liye, aek kahaani sunaata huuN.” javaab milaa, “irshaad”!

Akbar bole k “aek din Allah miyaaN ko yeh shauq chiraayaa k yeh maKhluuq jo maiN ne banaa’ii hai, kabhii zamiin par utar kar dekhuuN to sahii k meri maKhluuq ke taur-o-tareeq kyaa haiN? Allah miyaaN ne yeh tahaiyya kiyaa aur aek din aasmaan se zameen par utre aur Europe ke kisii shahr par ‘land’ kiyaa. us shahr ke baazaaroN meN ghaNToN ghuumte phirte rahe magar kisii bashar ne unheN pahchaana tak nahiiN. bil-aaKjhir, maayuus ho kar, voh sochne lage k yahaaN to ko’ii mujhe pahchaaanta hi nahiiN. to phir kyuuN na maiN vaapas aasmaan par jaa rahuuN aur is taKhleeq ko isii ke Haal par chhoR duuN?

aek shaKhs bolaa: “to kyaa Allah miyaaN, isi aalam meN, vaapas aasmaan par lauT gaye?”

Akbar bole: “nahiiN, nahiiN, aisaa nahiiN hu’aa , bal-k bachaao ho gayaa --- voh is taraH k Husn-e-ittefaaq se Hazrat-e-‘Iisa MaseeH ka udhar se guzar hu’aa aur unhoN ne logoN ko jam’a kar ke kahaa k

“Khudaa ke baNdo, idhar aa’o aur in se milo --- yeh mere vaalid saahib haiN”!

WOW --- everyone in the waiting room was stunned to hear this story and so was I when I heard it decades ago.

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

P.S.
1. Now you see, my friends, why I didn’t title this series as “lateefe” or “baRii baateN”, and only “dilchasp baateN”. For instance, just look at today’s story, which is neither a lateefa nor a baRii baat, but still it is “nihaayat dil-chasp”! R.K.

2. Hairat ki baat yeh hai k is kahaani ka aaKhiri Hissa Akbar A. ke zehn meN pahle hi se thaa yaa k unhoN ne ise bar-vaqt ghaRaa tha? R.K.

3. meri nazar meN yeh kahaani itni jaam’e hai k maiN aaj isi aek kahaani ko is laRii ki aek mukammal qist qaraar deta huuN! R.K.

4. do-chaar roz ke ba’ad, phir Haazir-e-Khidmat huuN ga. R.K.

[Naseer]

On Saturday, 16 November 2019 03:04:42 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
>
> yaaraan-e-maHfil:
>
> meri pichhli qist ke aek hi lafz ne is maHfil ki raunaq ko yuuN do-baalaa kiyaa k bas dekhte hi bane. ab jab-k voh raunaq apni dil-kashii ke jauhar dikhaa chukii hai to maiN ne sochaa k ab kyuuN na is laRii ki “kaarya-vaahi” ko aage baRhaaya jaaye?
> [Right, Anil sahib?]. ☺

Raj Kumar SaaHib, tasliimaat.

lafz the sab paa-yaab magar
baat nihaayat gahrii thii!

Abid Munavari

> to, leejiye, saaHibaan-o-saaHibaat ------- maiN aaj aap ko aek aisa qissa sunaauuN ga jo tanz-o-mizaaH ke ustaad shaa’ir janaab Akbar Allahabaadi se mut’alliq hai. vaazeH ho k peshe ke liHaaz se Akbar aek Deputy Collector the, magar apni pur-asar manzuumaat (jin ki zaKhaamat bhi kuchh kam na thii) ki ba-daulat voh Urdu adab meN aisa muqaam paa gaye the jise bahut kam sho’araa paa sake haiN.
>
> ittefaaq se, un ke aek farzaNd (jin ka naam mujhe ma’aluum nahiiN) Allahabad meN Magistrate ho gaye the.
>
> aek din Akbar sahib apne beTe se milne un ke daftar gaye. barKhurdaar kisi sarkaari uljhan meN mubtalaa the, is liye vahaaN ke kaar-kunoN ne Akbar sahib ko un ke beTe ke ‘waiting room’ meN biThaa diyaa aur kahaa k “saab abhi aap ko bulaayeN ge”! Akbar vahaaN baiThe baiThe aek kitaab ka mutaal’ea karne lage aur saath hi saath apne beTe ke bulaave ka intezaar.
>
> itni der meN, do aur ashKhaas ‘saab’ se milne aaye aur unheN bhi usi ‘waiting room’ meN biThaa diyaa gayaa. voh ashKhaas Akbar A. ke naam se to vaaqif the (bhalaa puure Allahabaad meN kaun hoga jo is naam se bahra-var na hoga?) magar voh log Akbar sahib ki shakl-o-suurat se naa-vaaqif the. is liye, voh dono aapas meN baateN karte rahe aur Akbar sahib se du’aa salaam tak na kii. Akbar is baat par qadre raNjuur to huye magar kyaa karte --- kabhi un ki taraf dekhte to kabhi apni kitaab ki taraf!
>
> bil-aaKhir, sahib-zaade bhaage bhaage ‘waiting room’ meN aaye, abba-jaan se baGhal-giir huye, aur phir un do ashKhaas ki taraf rujoo’a kiyaa aur kahaa,
> “aap in se miliye, yeh mere vaalid sahib haiN”.
>
> yeh jumla sunte hi, voh ashKhaas to laRkharaa se gaye aur haaNpte-kaaNpate un meN se aek shaKhs bolaa: “to yeh haiN janaab-e-Akbar Allahabaadi? aise naamii-giraami shaa’ir magar jaa-e-taqseer k ham GhaafiloN ne inheN pahchaana tak nahiiN”! duusra bola: ”yeh taqseer nahiiN hai, sar-aa-sar gunaah hai k Hindustaan ki aisi mumtaaz hastii hamaare paas maujuud rahi aur ham gunah-gaar idhar udhar ki baateN karte rahe. agar ham in se nayaaz paate to yaqeenan apni auqaat baRhaate”!
>
> Akbar yeh guft-guu chup-chaap sunte rahe aur zer-e-lab muskuraate rahe. jab vaqt aayaa to farmaayaa: “saahibaan, aap itne pareshaan kyuuN ho rahe haiN? aisi baateN to hoti hi rahti haiN. agar aap chaaheN to maiN, aap ki tashaffi ke liye, aek kahaani sunaata huuN.” javaab milaa, “irshaad”!
>
> Akbar bole k “aek din Allah miyaaN ko yeh shauq chiraayaa k yeh maKhluuq jo maiN ne banaa’ii hai, kabhii zamiin par utar kar dekhuuN to sahii k meri maKhluuq ke taur-o-tareeq kyaa haiN? Allah miyaaN ne yeh tahaiyya kiyaa aur aek din aasmaan se zameen par utre aur Europe ke kisii shahr par ‘land’ kiyaa. us shahr ke baazaaroN meN ghaNToN ghuumte phirte rahe magar kisii bashar ne unheN pahchaana tak nahiiN. bil-aaKjhir, maayuus ho kar, voh sochne lage k yahaaN to ko’ii mujhe pahchaaanta hi nahiiN. to phir kyuuN na maiN vaapas aasmaan par jaa rahuuN aur is taKhleeq ko isii ke Haal par chhoR duuN?
>
> aek shaKhs bolaa: “to kyaa Allah miyaaN, isi aalam meN, vaapas aasmaan par lauT gaye?”
>
> Akbar bole: “nahiiN, nahiiN, aisaa nahiiN hu’aa , bal-k bachaao ho gayaa --- voh is taraH k Husn-e-ittefaaq se Hazrat-e-‘Iisa MaseeH ka udhar se guzar hu’aa aur unhoN ne logoN ko jam’a kar ke kahaa k
>
> “Khudaa ke baNdo, idhar aa’o aur in se milo --- yeh mere vaalid saahib haiN”!
>
> WOW --- everyone in the waiting room was stunned to hear this story and so was I when I heard it decades ago.
>
> Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar
>
> P.S.
> 1. Now you see, my friends, why I didn’t title this series as “lateefe” or “baRii baateN”, and only “dilchasp baateN”. For instance, just look at today’s story, which is neither a lateefa nor a baRii baat, but still it is “nihaayat dil-chasp”! R.K.
>
> 2. Hairat ki baat yeh hai k is kahaani ka aaKhiri Hissa Akbar A. ke zehn meN pahle hi se thaa yaa k unhoN ne ise bar-vaqt ghaRaa tha? R.K.
>
> 3. meri nazar meN yeh kahaani itni jaam’e hai k maiN aaj isi aek kahaani ko is laRii ki aek mukammal qist qaraar deta huuN! R.K.
>
> 4. do-chaar roz ke ba’ad, phir Haazir-e-Khidmat huuN ga. R.K.

do-chaar roz kyaa, mumkin hai aap is se pahle yahaaN tashriif laane par majbuur ho jaa'eN!:-)

aap se mujhe ittifaaq hai kih zaruurii nahiiN kih baRe logoN kii mizaaHiyah baatoN hii par iktifaa kiyaa jaa'e. jis vaaqi3e meN ko'ii dil-chaspii kaa pahluu ho, use is laRii meN shaamil kar lenaa chaahiye.

aap ne Akbar Allahabadi kii zabaanii jo qissah ham tak pahuNchaayaa hai, bahut xuub hai. shukriyah!

aur ab ek Akbar hii kaa misra3 ho jaa'e. dekhiye hamaare dostaan-i-giraamii is kii kyaa tashriiH karte haiN..

pahle BA the ab biimaar haiN!

ab ek savaal. Prayag dar-kinaar, Kyaa Akbar, Allahabadi the yaa Ilahabadi? duusre lafzoN meN kyaa un kii jaa-i-paidaaish Allahabad thii yaa Ilahabad, jahaaN unhoN ne yih martbah aur maqaam paayaa? maiN is liye puuch rahaa huuN kih donoN kaa isti3maal paayaa jaataa hai.

aaxir meN, aap ke ek lafz ne is maHfil meN "raunaq" paidaa kii hai, dekhte haiN aap ke in do alfaaz se raunaq do-baalaa hotii hai yaa sih-baalaa!?:-)

shauq *chiraanaa* (which I think is a typo) or shauq charraanaa? (yih ek aur baat hai kih maiN ise jii churaanaa kii tarH shauq churaanaa samajh rahaa thaa!)

*nayaaz* > niyaaz

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 3:09:08 AM UTC-8, Naseer wrote:
> On Saturday, 16 November 2019 03:04:42 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:

> yaaraan-e-maHfil:
>
> meri pichhli qist ke aek hi lafz ne is maHfil ki raunaq ko yuuN do-baalaa kiyaa k bas dekhte hi bane. ab jab-k voh raunaq apni dil-kashii ke jauhar dikhaa chukii hai to maiN ne sochaa k ab kyuuN na is laRii ki “kaarya-vaahi” ko aage baRhaaya jaaye?
> [Right, Anil sahib?]. ☺

Raj Kumar SaaHib, tasliimaat.

lafz the sab paa-yaab magar
baat nihaayat gahrii thii!

Abid Munavari

***waah,waah, Naseer sahib! is dil-pazeer she’r ke ba’ad, aap Mirza Yaas Yagaanah ka yeh she’r suniye:
[For those who may not know this word, luknat = impediment in speech (due to stammering or stuttering or whatever)]

baat adhuurii, magar asar duunaa
kaisii luknat zabaan meN aa’ii!***

> 1. Now you see, my friends, why I didn’t title this series as “lateefe” or “baRii baateN”, and only “dilchasp baateN”. For instance, just look at today’s story, which is neither a lateefa nor a baRii baat, but still it is “nihaayat dil-chasp”! R.K.
>
> 2. Hairat ki baat yeh hai k is kahaani ka aaKhiri Hissa Akbar A. ke zehn meN pahle hi se thaa yaa k unhoN ne ise bar-vaqt ghaRaa tha? R.K.
>
> 3. meri nazar meN yeh kahaani itni jaam’e hai k maiN aaj isi aek kahaani ko is laRii ki aek mukammal qist qaraar deta huuN! R.K.
>
> 4. do-chaar roz ke ba’ad, phir Haazir-e-Khidmat huuN ga. R.K.

do-chaar roz kyaa, mumkin hai aap is se pahle yahaaN tashriif laane par majbuur ho jaa'eN!:-)

***maiN Haazir huuN, janaab, ---------- magar voh kyaa she’r hai:

laHad meN bhii mire shaane hilaaye jaate haiN sataane vaale yahaaN bhii sataaye jaate haiN!*** ☹

aap se mujhe ittifaaq hai kih zaruurii nahiiN kih baRe logoN kii mizaaHiyah baatoN hii par iktifaa kiyaa jaa'e. jis vaaqi3e meN ko'ii dil-chaspii kaa pahluu ho, use is laRii meN shaamil kar lenaa chaahiye.

aap ne Akbar Allahabadi kii zabaanii jo qissah ham tak pahuNchaayaa hai, bahut xuub hai. shukriyah!

***navaazish, karam, shukriya, mehrbaanii!***

aur ab ek Akbar hii kaa misra3 ho jaa'e. dekhiye hamaare dostaan-i-giraamii is kii kyaa tashriiH karte haiN..

pahle BA the ab biimaar haiN!

***For the time being, I pass***

ab ek savaal. Prayag dar-kinaar, Kyaa Akbar, Allahabadi the yaa Ilahabadi? duusre lafzoN meN kyaa un kii jaa-i-paidaaish Allahabad thii yaa Ilahabad, jahaaN unhoN ne yih martbah aur maqaam paayaa? maiN is liye puuch rahaa huuN kih donoN kaa isti3maal paayaa jaataa hai.

***mera mutaal’ea to yihii kahta hai k yeh do alfaaz aek hi shahr ke do naam haiN --- jahaaN Akbar paidaa huye, jahaaN voh parvaan chaRhe aur jahaaN se voh hamesha ke liye ruKhsat huye. albatta, agar aap ke paas ko’ii aur ‘info’ hai to ba-raah-e-karam ham sabhoN se ‘share’ keejiye!***

aaxir meN, aap ke ek lafz ne is maHfil meN "raunaq" paidaa kii hai, dekhte haiN aap ke in do alfaaz se raunaq do-baalaa hotii hai yaa sih-baalaa!?:-)

shauq *chiraanaa* (which I think is a typo) or shauq charraanaa? (yih ek aur baat hai kih maiN ise jii churaanaa kii tarH shauq churaanaa samajh rahaa thaa!)

***Khudaa jhuuT na bulvaaye, yeh ‘typo’ nahiiN hai. maiN ne jab kahiiN is ‘phrase’ ko sunaa hai, mujhe “shauq chiraanaa” hi lagaa hai. ab dekhta huuN k “shauq charaanaa” bhi Theek nahiiN aur “shauq churaanaa” ki to baat hi chhoRiye --- “shauq charraanaa” aek vasee’a phrase hai, jis ke kuchhh ma’anii “shauq chiraanaa” ke bhi haiN magar voh Theek naheeN jachte. albatta, isi phrase ke kuchh aur ma’ani bhi haiN jo yahaaN ‘fit’ baiThate haiN. goyaa, nateeja vaazeH hai aur (meri bad-qismatii hai k) yeh nateeja aap ke Haq meN jaata hai!*** ☹

*nayaaz* > niyaaz

***Now, this is a typo --- for I have known for a long time that the correct word is ‘niyaaz’. agar maiN kaheeN ‘nayaaz’ kah gayaa huuN to “overall good behavior” ki binaa par mu’aafi ka Haq-daar huuN! ☺

niyaaz-maNd v niyaaz-kesh, Raj Kumar***

[Zoya]

RK sahib,

maiN yeh kehne ke liye haazir hui huuN k is laRi meiN aap ke darj kiye hue qisse maiN bahut hii dilchaspi se paRh rahii huuN. in meiN se kuChh baateN to pehle se sun rakhi haiN, aur kuChh mere liye nayi haiN. Either way, your unique style of story telling makes these incidents so much more fun to read!

This thread will be a goldmine in Alup archives.

Thank you.

kaarya_vaahi jaari rakhiye. :-)

Best regards,

___Zoya

[Naseer]

Raj Kumar SaaHib ne apnii is laRii kaa 3unvaan "baRe logoN kii dil-chasp baateN" rakhaa hai aur unhoN ne farmaayaa hai kih is silsile meN "naam-var ashKhaas, *Khaas kar* adeebaan-e-Urdu, ki dilchasp baatoN ka tazkira hoga". is se zaahir hotaa hai kih dil-chasp baatoN kii qaid adiibaan-i-Urdu tak maHduud nahiiN balkih is maHfil meN "goyaan-i-Urdu" bhii darvaazah khaTkhaTaa sakte haiN.

lage haathoN ek baat kii vazaaHat kar duuN. meraa mashvarah hai kih mujhe chhoR kar diigar Hazraat aur xavaatiin, Raj Kumar SaaHib kii is Ghair-ma3muulii "chhuuT" aur narm-ravii kaa naa-jaa'iz faa'idah nah uThaa'eN!:-

ab jabkih is amr kii Huduud-i-arba3ah muta3ayyan kar dii ga'ii haiN, maiN "in dalchasp baatoN" kaa aaGhaaz in ash3aar se kartaa huuN jo us mulaaqaat aur guftuguu se muta3alliq haiN jis meN janaab-i-Dilip Kumar aur janaab-i-Mahendra Kaul shariik haiN. yih interview BBC Television ke prograam "na'ii zindagii nayaa jiivan" kaa Hissah hai jo 1970 meN nashr kiyaa gayaa.

sukuun-i-dil ke liye kuchh to ihtimaam karuuN
zaraa nazar jo mile to unheN salaam karuuN

mujhe to hosh nahiiN aap mashvarah diijiye
kahaaN se chheRuuN fasaanah kahaaN tamaam karuuN

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p01614q8

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 4:43:34 PM UTC-8, Zoya wrote:

RK sahib,

maiN yeh kehne ke liye haazir hui huuN k is laRi meiN aap ke darj kiye hue qisse maiN bahut hii dilchaspi se paRh rahii huuN. in meiN se kuChh baateN to pehle se sun rakhi haiN, aur kuChh mere liye nayi haiN. Either way, your unique style of story telling makes these incidents so much more fun to read!

***Zoya saaHiba, meri is laRii ke qisse aur in qissoN ka mere Khusuusi andaaz meN kahna --- agar aap ko yeh baateN bhaa’ii haiN to yuuN samajhiye k Khaaksaar ki mehnat bar aa’ii hai!***

This thread will be a goldmine in Alup archives.

***I hope it will be!*** ☺

kaarya_vaahi jaari rakhiye. :-)

***is silsile ki kaarya-vaahi ham zaruur jaarii rakkheN ge --- jab tak dam meN dam hai!

Khair-aNdesh, Raj uncle***

[Naseer]

On Sunday, 17 November 2019 22:21:51 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 3:09:08 AM UTC-8, Naseer wrote:
> > On Saturday, 16 November 2019 03:04:42 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
>
> > yaaraan-e-maHfil:
> >
> > meri pichhli qist ke aek hi lafz ne is maHfil ki raunaq ko yuuN do-baalaa kiyaa k bas dekhte hi bane. ab jab-k voh raunaq apni dil-kashii ke jauhar dikhaa chukii hai to maiN ne sochaa k ab kyuuN na is laRii ki “kaarya-vaahi” ko aage baRhaaya jaaye?
> > [Right, Anil sahib?]. ☺
>
> Raj Kumar SaaHib, tasliimaat.
>
> lafz the sab paa-yaab magar
> baat nihaayat gahrii thii!
>
> Abid Munavari
>
> ***waah,waah, Naseer sahib! is dil-pazeer she’r ke ba’ad, aap Mirza Yaas Yagaanah ka yeh she’r suniye:

> [For those who may not know this word, luknat = impediment in speech (due to stammering or stuttering or whatever)]
>
> baat adhuurii, magar asar duunaa
> kaisii luknat zabaan meN aa’ii!***
>

bahut xuub, balkih waah waah, Raj Kumar SaaHib!

> aur ab ek Akbar hii kaa misra3 ho jaa'e. dekhiye hamaare dostaan-i-giraamii is kii kyaa tashriiH karte haiN..
>
> pahle BA the ab biimaar haiN!
>
> ***For the time being, I pass***
>

Perhaps other friends might like to comment on the above.

Akbar Ilahabadi ke paas ek "peTuu" aksar Haazir hote the. itnaa khaate the kih hamah-vaqt kisii nah kisii rog meN jakRe rahte the. ek din Akbar ne un se un kaa Haal-chaal puuchhaa..

kaho bha'ii kyaa Haal hai?

aaNkhoN meN aaNsuu liye bole,

"ab to zindagii se bezaar ho chukaa huuN. roz roz kii biimaariyoN se khaane piine kaa lutf jaataa rahaa. zindagii be-kaif aur be-mazah sii ho kar rah ga'ii hai ab.

Akbar ek lamHe ke liye xaamosh rahe phir ThaNDi saaNs bharii aur bole,

zindagii se meraa bhaa'ii ser hai
phir bhii xoraak us kii Dhaa'ii ser hai!

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Naseer

[Zoya]

On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 5:34:22 PM UTC-6, Naseer wrote:

> mujhe to hosh nahiiN aap mashvarah diijiye
> kahaaN se chheRuuN fasaanah kahaaN tamaam karuuN
>
>

> Naseer

Naseer sahib, just a quick note, in the first misra, it should be:

mujhe to hosh nahiiN aap mashvarah 'diije'

'diijiye' is putting it out of meter.

____Zoya

[Naseer]

maiN to pahle hii 3arz kar chukaa huuN, Zoya SaaHibah kih "mujhe to hosh nahiiN aap mashvarah diijiye". mashvare ke liye navaazish, shukriyah aur mihrbaanii:-)

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 3:34:22 PM UTC-8, Naseer wrote:

Raj Kumar SaaHib ne apnii is laRii kaa 3unvaan "baRe logoN kii dil-chasp baateN" rakhaa hai aur unhoN ne farmaayaa hai kih is silsile meN "naam-var ashKhaas, *Khaas kar* adeebaan-e-Urdu, ki dilchasp baatoN ka tazkira hoga". is se zaahir hotaa hai kih dil-chasp baatoN kii qaid adiibaan-i-Urdu tak maHduud nahiiN balkih is maHfil meN "goyaan-i-Urdu" bhii darvaazah khaTkhaTaa sakte haiN.

***dareeN che shak?***

lage haathoN ek baat kii vazaaHat kar duuN. meraa mashvarah hai kih, mujhe chhoR kar, diigar Hazraat aur xavaatiin, Raj Kumar SaaHib kii is Ghair-ma3muulii "chhuuT" aur narm-ravii kaa naa-jaa'iz faa'idah nah uThaa'eN! :-)

***”aap ko chhoR kar” --- aisa kyuuN, Naseer sahib? kyaa aap kisii aur aasmaan se utre haiN?*** ;-)

ab jabkih is amr kii Huduud-i-arba3ah muta3ayyan kar dii ga'ii haiN, maiN "in dalchasp baatoN" kaa aaGhaaz in ash3aar se kartaa huuN jo us mulaaqaat aur guftuguu se muta3alliq haiN jis meN janaab-i-Dilip Kumar aur janaab-i-Mahendra Kaul shariik haiN. yih interview BBC Television ke prograam "na'ii zindagii nayaa jiivan" kaa Hissah hai jo 1970 meN nashr kiyaa gayaa.

sukuun-i-dil ke liye kuchh to ihtimaam karuuN
zaraa nazar jo mile to unheN salaam karuuN

mujhe to hosh nahiiN aap mashvarah diijiye
kahaaN se chheRuuN fasaanah kahaaN tamaam karuuN

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p01614q8

***maiN ne yeh 19 minutes ki guft-guu sunii hai aur ise sun kar har liHaaz se Khush hu’aa huuN. D.K. sahib ki Urdu kuchh aisi hai k kaanoN meN ras gholtii hai. Kaul sahib ke savaal bhi ma’aquul the aur D.K. sahib ke javaab bhi. is Haseen inaayat ke liye aap ka bahut bahut shukriya!

aur yeh jo diijiye vs diijay vaali baat hai, ise maiN to fauran taaR gayaa tha magar is baat ko aap par vaazeH karne meN Zoya saaHiba baazii le ga'iiN! :-)

[Raj Kumar]

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yaaraan-e-maHfil:

abhi do din pahle, janaab Naseer sahib ne aek aur dilchasp kahaani Akbar Allahaabaadi (aur un ke aek “peTuu” dost) se mut’alliq sunaa’ii thi. maiN aaj is silsile ki agli qist ka aaGhaaz aek aise vaaq’ey se kar rahaa huuN jo Akbar Allahaabaadi hi se mut’alliq hai --- aur vaaq’ea kuchh aisa k Khud Akbar sahib kisii aur bazla-saNj ke nishtar ka nishaana ban gaye!

yeh vaaq’ea aek aisi maHfil meN sarzad hu’aa jo Allahaabaad hi meN mun’aqid hu’ii thii. us maHfil meN, Akbar sahib aur deegar mo’azziz adab-dostoN ke ilaavah, us zamaane ki mash_huur muGhanniya, raqqaasa aur shaa’ira Gauhar Baa’ii bhi maujuud thiiN.

Akbar sahib ne, az-rah-e-mazaaq, aek kaaGhaz ke purze par yeh she’r likh kar Gauhar Baa’ii ko bhijvaayaa:

Khush-naseeb aaj yahaaN kaun hai Gauhar ke sivaa
sab kuchh Allaah ne de rakkhaa hai, shauhar ke sivaa! :-)

thoRi der ba’ad, Gauhar Baa’ii ne sabhii Haazireen ko Akbar sahib ka bheja hu’aa she’r paRh kar sunaayaa aur, saath hi, yeh javaabii she’r paRhaa:

yuuN to Gauhar ko muyassar haiN hazaaroN shauhar
par pasaNd un ko nahiiN ko’ii bhi AKBAR ke sivaa!! :-)

yeh she’r sun kar har taraf se vaah vaah ki aavaaz bulaNd hu’ii aur be-chaare Akbar sahib kuchh jheNp se gaye!

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mundaraja-baalaa ash’aar ke qaafiyoN ke pesh-e-nazar, aek aur vaaq’ea mulaaHiza ho:

aek mushaa’ire meN, Maulaanaa Shaukat Ali (of the “Muhammad Ali Shaukat Ali” fame --- a leader of the “Khilaafat Movement” in pre-partition India) ibtedaa’ii taqreer farmaa rahe the. dauraan-e-taqreer, unhoN ne kahaa:

“saam’een, maiN Khud to she’r nahiiN kahtaa magar mere do bhaa’ii shaa’ir haiN --- aek to haiN Muhammad Ali JAUHAR aur duusre Zul-fiqaar Ali GAUHAR.

aek taraf se aavaaz aa’ii: “to aap kyaa haiN --- faqat SHAUHAR? :-) :-) :-)

mushaa’ira yak-laKht qahqahaa-zaar ban gayaa!

[ittefaaq se, 1968 meN, Chandigarh ke aek mushaa’ire meN, jahaaN mujhe nizaamat ke faraa’iz sauNpe gaye the, sho’araa ki fahrist meN biraadar-e-mohtaram Parvez sahib bhi the. jab unheN bulaane ka vaqt aayaa to maiN ne saam’een ko mundarja baalaa qissa sunaayaa aur (janaab-e-Zia aur janaab-e-Parvez ka Havaala dete huye) ma’azirat chaahii k, Maulaanaa Shaukat Ali ki taraH, maiN bhi shaa’ir nahiiN huuN --- faqat SHAUHAR ho kar rah gayaa huuN!

saam’een, meri yeh baat sun kar shaad shaad ho gaye!]

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Bhopal meN Jigar M. sahib ke eizaaz meN aek Khaas maHfil-e-mushaa’ira mun’aqid hu’ii, jis meN She’ri Bhopaali aur deegar naam-var sho’araa ke ilaava kuchh gum-naam aur nau-aamoz sho’araa bhi shareek the. tamaam sho’araa ne apna apna kalaam sunaayaa. ittefaaq se, is mushaa’ire meN do-aek mash_huur sho’araa ke ba’az ash’aar naaqis the aur aek nau-aamoz shaa’ir ka aek she’r Jigar sahib ko be-Had pasaNd aayaa thaa.

agle din, jab Jigar sahib ke aek be-takalluf dost ne un se is mushaa’ire ke baare meN un ka ta’assur daryaaft kiyaa to Jigar sahib ne apne maKhsuus aNdaaz meN farmaayaa:
“sahib, yeh nizaam-e-qudrat ka usuul hai k jab kisi achchhe shaa’ir ko sazaa deni ho to us par ko’ii ghaTiyaa she’r naazil kar diyaa jaataa hai --- aur jab kisi achchhe she’r ko sazaa deni ho to use kisii ghaTiyaa shaa’ir par naazil kiyaa jaataa hai”! :-)

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Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

[Raj Kumar]

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yaaraan-e-maHfil:

maiN aaj aap ko chaNd dilchasp baateN aek aisi hastii se mut’alliq sunaanaa chaahuuN ga jo, aek baa-kamaal siyaasii rah-numaa hone ke saath saath, Urdu zabaan ke dil-daada bhi the. meri muraad hai PaNDit Jawahar Lal Nehru se, jo taqseem-e-vatan se pahle taHreek-e-aazaadi meN pesh pesh rahe aur taqseem-e-vatan ke ba’ad, apni raushan-dimaaGhi ki ba-daulat, apne ham-vatanoN ki a’ala-tareeN baseerat ke saath rah-numaa’ii kii. Khusuusi taur se yeh k unhoN ne HindustaaniyoN ko “scientific temper” ki tarveej ka sabaq paRhaayaa aur Khud bhi is manzil ki jaanib be-shumaar qadam uThaaye --- aise qadam k jin ki ba-daulat aaj “technical world” meN Hindustaan ka maqaam saf-e-avval meN hai!

ba-har-Haal, ab aap kuchh dilchasp baateN PaNDit ji se muta’alliq suniye --- aisi baateN k jin se PaNDit ji ke ‘wit/humor’ ki jhalkiyaaN aap ke deeda-o-dil ko munavvar kar deN gi.
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1. film “Mirza Ghaalib” ki kaamyaabi par, sarkaar-e-Hind ne is film ko “Gold Medal” ‘ataa kiyaa tha. us mauq’e par aek shaan-daar jashn bhi mun’aqid kiyaa gayaa tha, jis meN is film ke director Sohraab Modi sahib ne is film ke actors/actresses ko PaNDit ji se milvaayaa tha aur un ka ta’aaruf bhi karvaayaa tha. jab actress Suraiyya ki baari aa’ii to PaNDit ji ne muskuraate huye kahaa:
“achchha, to aap haiN Ghaalib ki maHbuuba”? ;-)

yeh jumla sun kar Suraiyya saaHiba jheNp si ga’iiN!

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2. yeh un dinoN ki baat hai jab PaNDit ji jail meN the. kuchh qaidiyoN ko shikaayat thi k unheN roTi achchhi nahiiN mil rahii --- ho na ho, yahaaN aaTTe meN miTTi milaa’ii jaa rahii hai!

jab PaNDit ji ne yeh baat jail ke superintendent sahib se kahii to unhoN ne javaab diyaa: “aap log to yahaaN desh ki sevaa karne aaye haiN, aap ko aisi shikaayateN nahiiN karni chaahiyeN’!

yeh sun kar, PaNDit ji bole: “janaab, ham Khaak-e-vatan par jaan to dete haiN magar ise phaaNkte to nahiiN”! ;-)

is javaab par, superintendent sahib laa-javaab ho kar rah gaye!

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3. Dilli meN auratoN ki aek conference ho rahi thi, jis ki sadaarat mash_huur shaKhsiyat, jo siyaasat-daan hone ke saath saath aek adabi fan-kaara bhi thiiN --- I mean, mohtarma Sarojini Naa’idu --- kar rahi thiiN. is taqreeb meN, PaNDit Nehru bhi madd’au the aur is conference ki ibtedaa’ii taqreer unheeN ko karni thi.

mujhe yeh nahiiN ma’aluum k is taqreer meN PaNDit ji ne kyaa kahaa --- magar nateeja yeh hu’aa k un ki taqreer ke ba’ad Sarojini saahiba ne paNDit ji ko (un ke aNdaaz-e-taqreer par) in alfaaz meN saraahaa:

“PaNDit ji, aap ke aNdaaz-e-taqreer meN voh sheereeni hai k --- kaash, aap hamiiN meN se aek hote”! ;-)

WOW --- yeh jumla sun kar, paNDit ji yuuN sharmaaye k kyaa kahne!

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4. apne inteqaal se kuchh mahiine pahle, PaNdit ji ne mash_huur parliamentarian Mahaaviir Tyaagi ko bulaayaa aur kahaa k “maiN tumheN vazeer-e-baHaaliyaat banaana chaahata huuN.
[vaazeH ho k Mahaaviir Tyaagi aek “maverick” qism ke politician the, jin ke baare meN ko’ii bhi pesheen-go’ii nahiiN ki jaa sakti thi --- yeh alag baat k voh, is se pahle, Defence ministry aur Finance ministry meN aa’la kirdaar adaa kar chuke the.]

PaNDit ji ke is sujhaao par, Mahaaviir Tyaagi ne kahaa: “PaNdit ji, agar maiN ne aap ka yeh tajveez-karda ‘uhda qubuul kar liyaa to log kaheN ge k --- Tyaagi BHAUNKTAA to bahut tha, magar PaNDit ji ne aek luqma de kar is ka muNh baNd kar diyaa”!

PaNDit ji bole: aur agar tum ne yeh ‘uhda qubuul na kiyaa to log kaheN ge k --- “Tyaagi DUM DABAA KAR bhaag gayaa”! ;-)

baat hu’ii naa?

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Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

[Anil Kala]

I have a story of CHote log which I can share if you are up to it.

[Raj Kumar]

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 6:36:22 AM UTC-8, Anil Kala wrote:

> I have a story of CHote log which I can share if you are up to it.

***Go ahead!

R.K.***

[Anil Kala]

Yaadavji, yuuN to puurabii UP se aate haiN lekin gaaNv ke raNg DhaNg meN rach-bas gaye haiN. jab UP riyaasat taqsiim ki gayii us waqt sabhii sarkaari mulaazimoN ko mouqa diyaa gayaa thaa ke woh apni pasaNd ki riyaasat ka intiKhaab kar leN, Yaadavjii ne , na jaane kyaa soch kar, UttaraKhaND(UK) hi rahne ka faisla kiyaa. Yadavjii school meN maastar haiN, Hindi ki ta'liim dete haiN. CHuNke maastaroN ki gintii kam hai lihaaza paanch se baarahviiN jamaat, sabhi ko Hindi paRdhaate haiN. inki shakHsiyat kuch judaa si hai, libaas san 60 ke dihaayi style ke pahante haiN , patluun Dhiile-Dhaali, kamiiz( kamiis) be-tartiib si, aadhii patluun men khoNchii huii aur aadhii baahar laTakti; zip kabhii bhi bhi puuri tarah se baNd nahiiN rahti lekiN gaaNv meN kisii ko bhi Yadavji se koi shikaayat nahiiN hai.

School ke maasTroN ko sarkaar achchi tanKhwaah deti hai; koi Rs 70 hazaar mahiina, iske ilaavaa health aur pension vagairah ka bhi intizaam rahta hai. gaaNv kyaa shahar ke lihaaz se bhi ye compensation bohat hi Thiik hai. duusre maasTer tip-top rahte haiN paas hi ke shahar Kotdwar se aanaa -jaanaa karte haiN , gaaNv men nahiiN rahte. Yadav ji ka kul Kharchaa 700-1000 se zyaada nahiiN (hamaare hi gaaNv meN Rs 200 kiraaye par ek kamre meN rahte haiN) ba'aqi raqam woh apni family ko bhej dete haiN. Sharaab, cigarette tambakuu koi bhi nashaa nahiiN aur kaam ki lagan ek misaal ki tarah hai. Subah 4.00 baje uTh jaanaa , mandir meN diya jalaana aur phool poudhoN ko paani denaa, sab kaam unke hi zimme hai. itne baras rahne ke ba'ad bhi Yadanvjii hamaari zabaan nahiiN bol sakte lekiN is baat kaa unki roz-ba-roz ki zindagi par ratti bhar asar nahiiN hai.

mere Ghariib-Khaane bhi unkaa aanaa jaanaa rahta hai, aaKhir gaaNv meN kuch aur karne ko hai bhi to nahiiN. sabhii gaaNvwaaloN ki tarah woh bho bayaan kar chuke haiN ki ek martaba unka bhi baaGh se aamnaa saamna ho chuka hai, is baat ko maiN zyaada saNjiidghii se nahiiN letaa. School duusre gaaNv meN hai, koi 1 Km duur lekiN pahaaR par 1 Km aanaa jaanaa maidaani ilaaqe ke muqqaable mehnat ka kaam hai lekin Yadavji lagan se rozaana school jaate haiN duusre maastroN ki tarah farzi attendence nahiiN lagate. sabhi student unheN 'guruji' kahte haiN jabki gaaNv-waale Yadavji kah kar pukaarte haiN.

[Anil Kala]

Tomorrow .. will complete

Urdu meN likhna mere liye mashaqqat ka sabab hai .

[Irfan Abid]

muhtaram RK sb, aadaab arz hai!

aap ne jab se yih silsilsa shuruu’a kiyaa hai, maiN is ke taht chaspaaN kiye gaye Khutuut paRhtaa rahtaa huuN. yih dilchasp silsila shuruu’a karne aur is ko ravaaN-davaaN rakhne ke liye aap aur Naseer sb mubraakbaad ke mustahiq haiN.

jab tak Anil sb apnaa qissa (yaa qisse) sunaayeN, maiN ne sochaa ki is silsile meN shumuuliat kaa sharaf maiN bhii haasil kar luuN. mujhe zabaanii to aisaa koii vaaqia yaad nahiiN jo yahaaN pesh kiyaa jaa sake, albatta emaratkaar dot com se musta’aar le kar kuchh dilchasp vaaqiaat pesh kar rahaa huuN. maiN ne yih vaaqiaat lafz-ba-lafz raqam karne kii bajaaye apnii zabaan meN, kuchh maqsuur shakl meN raqam kiye haiN.

1. Imam Baksh “Nasikh” Lakhnavi ko makaan kii sajaavaT kaa baRaa shauq thaa. ek martaba unhoN ne apne ghar meN sang-e-marmar kaa farsh banvaayaa. un ke ek shanaasa milne aaye. un ke haath meN chhaRii thii. vuh baatoN ke darmiyaan apnii chaRii se farsh ke joRoN (joints) ko kured rahe the, aur bazaahir is amr se lutf-andoz ho rahe the. NasiKh ko yih baat baRii naa-gavaar guzrii. vuh ghar ke andar se ek kudaal le kar aaye aur mehmaan ke haath meN de kar bole, “chaRii se to shaayad yih patthar na ukRheN, aap kudaal istemaal kar leejiye!”

2. Mirza Ghalib naye ghar meN muntaqil honaa chaahte the. ek ghar pasand kiyaa aur ahliya se kahaa ki vuh bhii dekh aayeN. jab vuh dekh kar aayiiN to boliiN ki kisii ne kahaa hai ki us ghar meN koii balaa hai lihaaza vahaaN rahnaa munaasib nahiiN. Mirza bole, “kyaa aap se baRh kar koii balaa hai?”

3. jab Mirza Ghalib ko angrezoN ne jail se rihaa kiyaa to vuh Miyan Naseeruddin urf Miyan Kaale ke yahaaN Thahre. ek roz kisii shaKhs ne Mirza ko jail se rihaa hone kii mubaarakbaad dii. Mirza ne kahaa, “kaun kambaKht rihaa huaa hai. maiN pehle gore kii qaid meN thaa, ab kaale kii qaid meN huuN!”

4. ek martaba Maulana Abdul Majeed Salik Delhi aaye aur Khwaja Hasan Nizami se milne basti Nizamuddin gaye. Khwaja unheN dargah dikhaane nikle. raaste meN ek maamuulii se makaan kii taraf ishaara kar ke bole, “yih iimaan-Khaana hai.” Salik sb ne farmaaya, “is meN kyaa Khaas hai? aise to sabhii makaan iimaan-Khaane haiN. aur ham jahaaN se aaye haiN, kyaa vuh be-iimaan-Khaana hai?” is par Khwaja ko besaaKhta haNsii aa gayii.

5. Maulana Abdul Majeed Salik duusrii manzil par rahte the, jahaaN nal (pipe) se paanii nahiiN pahuNch paataa thaa. ek martaba Patras BuKhari unke yahaaN mehmaan the ki Jagannath Azad bhii ek roz tashriif laaye. Salik sb ne unheN bataayaa ki aaj kal paanii kii takleef nahiiN hai kyoNki Bukhari sb aur unkaa driver bartanoN (cans) meN paanii bhar kar uupar le aate haiN. yih zikr ho hii rahaa rahaa thaa ki Bukhari sb aur unkaa driver paanii ke cans ke saath aa pahuNche. Salik sb ne mazaaqan Azad sb se kahaa, “Jagannath, tumne dekhaa ki Urdu ke baRe adiib aur UNO ke afsar bhii hamaare aage paanii bharte haiN?” Bukhari sb ne fauran Azad sb ko muKhaatib karke kahaa, “aur Azad, in kii tehziib bhii dekh lo ki is ke baavujuud yih sharm se paanii paanii nahiiN hote!”

aaj itnaa hii. baaqii aainda.

niyaazmand,
Irfan :Abid:

[Anil Kala]

is tarah chhaayaa hu.aa hai nigah-o-dil pe tilism
jaise har chiiz haqiiqat ho haqiiqat ke sivaa

itne baras ho gaye lekin aaj tak Yadavji apne biwi-bachchoN ko kabhi bhi gaaNv nahiiN laaye, gaaNvwaale bhi unke khaandaan ke baare meN zero haiN. kul milaa kar kah sakte haiN ki Yadavji gaaNv ki social life meN ghul mil gaye haiN. unhe is baat kaa bhi Khayaal rahtaa hai ki jaat-paat par yahaaN ke log aaj bhi dark-age meN haiN isliye jahaaN khaanaa bantaa hai duur hi rahte haiN. ...

I think my Urdu will collapse here so I will describe the climax in English


I hope you get the general picture. Yadavji is not very bright also not focused on personal appearance but he is hardworking, sincere and conducts appropriately with villagers; these attributes endear villagers therefore Yadavji is held high in their esteem as a result Yadavji is invited in all social activities of surrounding villages, marriages, bhajan-kiirtans, tyohaar etc and generally considered one of their own and not outsider.


Early spring is chilly at my village but provides nirvana moments when the sun rises and allows you to sit and soak its warmth applying 'sarsoN ka tel' on cracking skin. I was in the temple, it was about 10:00, taking in the March Sun. Temple, apart from its functional uses, also serves as a 'chaupal' , a place for assembly/gathering and gossiping ‘aDDa’. As usual a couple of village fellows were around and supply of tea of questionable quality was in regular circulation. Temple in our village sits in the center as well as at the bottom of the valley therefore villagers can know what is going on in the temple. Only the day before there was a marriage in adjacent village, Malyaan and the baraat had departed in the afternoon so still a lot of ‘mehmaan’ who had come for the marriage were loitering around, living out the nostalgia of their childhood. So, it was a usual uneventful day nothing to keep for lasting memories until unusual happened....

Then we saw a grim-faced party of about ten fellows purposefully walking towards us. As soon as they came, they began talking to the guy who was responsible for construction of the temple and like me visits village off and on. They were speaking rapidly and in TheTh Garhwali which I was not able to comprehend. After awhile, this fellow explained to me what has happened …

The day before a village lady of MalyaaN had caught Yadavji surreptitiously stealing salwar/shalwar hanged out to dry after wash. She was a gutsy lady, questioned Yadavji vigorously and also informed men folks of her village. Caught red handed, Yadavji made some excuses not very convincing but for the moment he was let off. The thing is, disappearing of ladies lower garments was happening for some time but this thing was known to women folks only, men were not aware of anything of this sort happening. Later in the evening two boys saw Yadavji carrying a bulging sack to the hilltop at the back of his house, again surreptitiously with the purpose of disposing it’s content in the wilderness. However, the boys informed elders who in turn confronted Yadavji. It turned out that the sack was packed to the brim with ladies' lower garments. An investigation of his room revealed another bag also packed full of similarly stolen garments. Since it was already dark by the time the discovery was made, the matter was left for the morning to be dealt with. The crowd appeared to me in very angry mood, this was a rank betrayal of faith; if not lynching and maiming they would certainly break this guy’s limbs.

Even though I mingled with the villagers freely but I had no idea that these folks took me seriously. One gets the impression that villagers regard slick city folks as some kind of freaks, short on common sense, high on glib talk. But I was surprised at the silence as they were looking at me for some cue to go ahead and thrash this guy. ..

More Tomorrow

[Anil Kala]

I have always lived my life as an observer, avoided being the actor or instigator or adviser; even in school and college I always chose corner at the end of the class to sit and if I knew the answer to a question asked by the teacher/professor I would not raise my hand even if nobody else knew the answer I would still not raise hand lest spotlight fell on me. Here these fellows had put me in a fix, pushed me into an unfamiliar territory.. ..So I told these agitated folks, ‘I will get this fellow down here and we will sort this out!’

I walked some thirty forty steps and then yelled out for Yadavji. I could see him up there in 'baniyaan' and trouser doing some domestic chores. He gestured with both hands, meaning ‘OK I am coming down.’ So I waited for him, when he came down I told him, “Don’t speak a word” At the temple, he stood like a child taking in assault of angry villagers one by one speaking not word. After half an hour the fellows had spent most of their anger seemed amenable to less violent suggestion, so I said, ‘Yadavji, clearly you are sick, you need counselling’ The suggestion appealed to some but rejected by others. Another round of shouting growling ensued for fifteen minutes after which to every one’s surprise Yadavji said, “ Ab Khatam Karo”. He didn’t look repentant, refused to apologize to ladies.

So in the end it turned out that under the soft exterior, Yadavji is really a tough nut whereas all the aggression of villagers was just hot air. Finally Yadavji was ordered to leave the village. As chance had it, he was going on vacation for a month, when he came back he shifted his base to another village on the other side of school, not falling in our ‘Panchayat’ (consisting of five villages).
So, gaaNv-vaale is episode ki charcha agle 10 dinoN tak karte rahe….until a fellow stone drunk slipped off the slope of hill and broke his legs. Then the talk shifted to this injured man.

[Raj Kumar]

***janaab Irfan Sahib:

aap ko yahaaN dekh kar be-Hadd Khushi hu'ii. aap ne jo kahaaniyaaN yahaaN pesh kii haiN, bahut maze-daar haiN --- Khaas kar # 4 aur 5.

umeed hai k aap aa'iNda bhi tashreef laate raheN ge aur yaaraan-e-maHfil ko maziid dilchasp kahaaniyoN se maHzuuz karte raheN ge.

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

[Anil Kala]

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 9:09:07 PM UTC+5:30, Raj Kumar wrote:

san 1983 ya 1984 ka waaqia hai, 2 December ki hi raat thi, ham log us roz Bhopal meN the ek dost ke bhaai ki shaadi ki silsile meN. chuNke dost ke waalid ka intqaal ho chukaa thaa, koi duusra baRa-buzurg bhi nahiiN tha aur us waqt ke rasm o-riwaaz ke mutaabiq baraat meN auratoN ke jaane par paabaNdi thi lihaaza 'mukhiyaa' ka kaam dost ko hi nibhaanaa tha. dulhan ke waalid jangal se ta'alluq rakhne waale idaare meN uuNche 'ohde ( I think Curator) par tainaat the lihaaza baRii pahuNch waale aadmi the. TT Nagar ke ek umda guest house par ham logoN Thahraayaa gaya thaa, aur paaNch - Chah sakaari jeep ham logon ki sevaa meN haazir thi. din ka waqt sair-sapaaTe meN guzraa. baRe buzurg ke na hone ki wajah se koii rok Tok nahiiN thi, ham be-fikr ho mauz-masti meN waqt guzaar rahe the. ilavaa dost ke, jo pahle shaadi pakki karne ke liye Bhopal ayaa tha, ba'aqii sab ke liye ye shahar ek-dam nayaa thaa.

Baraat raat 8 baje nikali aur 9 baje tak sahi jagah pahuNchi, khaane-piine aur preliminary rasm-o-riwaaz, 'jai-maal' vagairah nibhaane meN 11 baj gaye, pheroN ka waqt (lagan) 12.15 ke kuch ba'ad tai thaa, dekhte dekhte 12 bhi baj gaye tab hameN Khayaal aayaa ke cigarette kisii ke paas bhi nahiiN bachi hai. kuch soch-vichaar kar tai huaa ke is waqt cigarette sirf railway station par hi mil sakti hai , gaaRi hamare paas thii hi so railway station jaana tai hua..

suspense ki liye ek roz rukna hogaa...

[Raj Kumar]

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yaaraan-e-maHfil:

is silsile ko jaarii rakhte huye, maiN aaj aap ko aek aise vaaq’ey se ruu-shinaas karvaauuN ga jo PaNDit Nehru aur Firaaq Gorakhpuri se mut’alliq hai.

PaNDit ji aur Firaaq sahib barsoN aek hi shahr meN muqeem rahe, jise aap Alaahaabaad kaheN yaa Ilaahaabaad --- magar vaaqe’a yeh hai k in dono hastiyoN meN gaaRhi chhanti thi. is ki aek vaj’h to yeh thi k, PaNDit ji ki pai-ravii meN, Firaaq sahib bhi INC ki siyaasi sargarmiyoN meN numaayaaN kirdaar adaa karte rahe the aur is silsile meN jail bhi jaa chuke the. duusri vaj’h yeh k paNDit ji Urdu zabaan ke dil-daadah the aur is liye Firaaq sahib ke maddaHoN meN se the. nateejatan, Firaaq sahib ka PaNDit ji ki rihaa’ish-gaah (Anand Bhavan) par aanaa-jaanaa ma’amuul ki baat thi.

albatta, is “aane-jaane” ka aek nateeja yeh hu’aa k Firaaq sahib PaNDit ji ki chhoTi bahn Krishna (later known as Krishna Hutheesing) par farefta ho gaye aur use Khusuusi tavajjoh dene lage. yeh baat PaNdit Moti Lal Nehru ko qat’an pasaNd na thi kyuuN-k voh Firaaq sahib ki “be-raah-ravii” se ba-Khuubi vaaqif the. aur na hi Krishna ji ki taraf se Firaaq sahib ki jaanib ko’ii Khusuusi jhukaao tha. muKhtasar yeh k Firaaq sahib ka yeh ishq maHz “yak-tarfa” thaa aur, vaqt ke saath, yeh ishq un ke liye koft ka baa’is banaa. saath hi, yeh ishq Firaaq sahib ki shaa’irii par barsoN musallat rahaa!

maqaam-e-shukr hai k, muNdarja-baalaa saanihe ke baa-vujuud, PaNDit Jawahar Lal Nehru aur Firaaq sahib ke ta’alluqaat dostaana sataH par qaa’im rahe.

ba-har-Haal, ab chalte haiN us mazedaar baat ki taraf jis ke liye maiN ne itni lambi chauRi tamhiid baaNdh Daali hai. voh yeh k paNDit ji Firaaq sahib ko na to Firaaq sahib kahte the aur na hi Raghupati sahib --- bal-k voh unheN hamesha “Sahaaye sahib” kahaa karte the.

aek vaqt aisa aayaa k Firaaq sahib ne, apna vazn ghaTaane ke liye, kuchh aqdaam uThaaye jo kaar-aamad saabit huye. nateejatan, voh kuchh duble-patle se ho gaye. kuchh arse ba’ad, jab dono dostoN ki mulaaqaat hu’ii to PaNDit ji ne, Firaaq sahib ke muqaabiltan duble-patle jism par nazar Daalte huye, farmaayaa: “Sahaaye sahib, yeh kyaa ho rahaa hai aap ko? janaab, agar aap isi taraH kam se kamtar aur kamtar se kamtareen hote gaye to aek din aap “Sahaaye sahib” ki bajaaye “haaye sahib” ho kar rah jaayeN ge! :-) :-) :-)

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is lateef kahaani ke ba’ad, do dilchasp kahaaniyaaN Gandhiji se mut’alliq suniye. ain mumkin hai k in meN se pahli kahaani bahut se yaaraan-e-maHfil ne pahle bhi sun rakkhi ho magar mere Khayaal meN duusri kahaani bahut se dostoN ke liye na’ii hogi.

1. yeh un dinoN ki baat hai jab Gandhiji, apni siyaasi sar-garmiyoN ki ba-daulat, bahut mash_huur ho chuke the. aek martaba, jab voh London gaye huye the to unheN Bartaania ke baadshaah (= King of England) se mulaaqaat ka sharaf Haasil hu’aa. agarche us roz mausim bahut ThaNDa tha, phir bhi Gandhiji ne halke-phulke kapRe pahne huye the. jab voh baadshaah se mulaaqaat kar ke baahar aaye to aek ‘journalist’ ne un se kahaa: “Gandhiji, aap Bartaania ke baadshaah se milne gaye aur itne halke-phulke kapRe pahn kar gaye”. Gandhiji bole:
“Don’t worry, the King was wearing enough for both of us”! :-)

2. The second story refers to the time when several meetings were being held between Gandhiji and Lord Irwin (the Viceroy of India) that finally led to the Gandhi-Irwin Pact of 1931. During one of those meetings, the discussions went on and on until Gandhiji suggested a break so that he could have his mid-day meal.

yeh kah kar unhoN ne apna thaila khola aur us meN se apni ‘meal’ ka saamaan nikaala. Lord Irwin ne Gandhiji se kahaa, “zaraa hameN bhi to dikhaaiye k aap kyaa khaane vaale haiN”. Gandhiji ne apna saamaan-e-Ghizaa Lord Irwin ko dikhaayaa aur kahaa,”yeh haiN chaNd khajuureN aur yeh hai bakrii ka duudh”. Lord Irwin ne Hairat ka izhaar karte huye kahaa, “yeh kaisi Ghizaa khaate haiN aap”? Gandhiji ne muskraate huye kahaa:
“janaab, yeh vuhii Ghizaa hai jo Hazrat ‘Iisa MaseeH khaayaa karte the”! 

yeh javaab sun kar Lord Irwin laa-javaab ho kar rah gaye.

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maiN agli qist meN is silsile ka ruKh aek baar phir adeebaan-e-Urdu ki jaanib moRuuN ga.

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

[B.G. M.]

Aap ki shuruu’ kee hu’ii is dilpazeer laRii ko maiN baRii dilchaspii se paRhtaa huuN.
Is meN aap ke diye hu’e har waaqiye ki mazedaar aur dilkash bayaanii aap ki behtareen qissah-goyii kaa sabuut hai.

Jaise kuChh arse qabl janaab Vijay kumar ne kahaa thaa, “aap waaqeyii nasr meN shaa’iirii karte haiN”
bilkul sahiih farmaayaa thaa.

Aur jaise Janaab Irfan “ Aabid” saahab ne ik baar likhaa thaa kih,

“tajribe yuuN to har ik shaKhs ko hote haiN magar
qissah.goii kaa hunar ho to Ghazal hotii hai”

to saahab, aap ki qissahgo’ii kaa to kyaa hi kehnaa!

aap se iltijaah hai kih is laRee ko jaarii rakhiye aur ham isii taraH aap ke tajribe aur aap ke kalaam se lutf lete raheNge, I A !

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[Raj Kumar]

***bahut bahut shukriya, BG sahib, k aap is laRii ki ‘posts’ ko dilchaspi se paRhte haiN aur in se maHzuuz bhi hote haiN.

rahii baat hamaari qissa-go’ii ki to kyaa kaheN, sahib, --- Husn-e-ittefaaq se, ham ne zehn-o-nutq hi kuchh aise paaye haiN k baat kareN to aisi k jo zehn meN ubhre, nutq se nikle aur seedhi sun_ne vaale ke dil meN utar jaaye! ;-)

is zimn meN, jo Havaale aap ne Vijay sahib aur Irfan sahib ki ruu se diye haiN, voh mere liye baa’is-e-sad-masarrat haiN.

aur jahaaN tak aap ki “iltejaa” ki baat hai to aap fikr mat kareN --- Khaaksaar ke paas jitna Khazaana aise dilchasp vaaq’eaat ka hai, voh yeh saara Khazaana qist-ba-qist ALUP par chaspaaN karne ka iraada rakhta hai --- ba-shart-e-k ALUP vaaloN se gaahe-ba-gaahe “feedback” milti rahe, taa-k Khaaksaar ki hausala-afzaa’ii hoti rahe!

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

[Raj Kumar]

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yaaraan-e-maHfil:

maiN aek baar phir is silsile ka ruKh adeebaan-e-Urdu ki jaanib moRtaa huuN. to, leejiye, maziid chaNd-aek dilchasp baateN suniye.

Dilli meN kisii ra’iis ke makaan par aek muKhtasar si maHfil-e-she’r-o-suKhan mun’aqid thi, jis meN ziyaada-tar sho’araa peene vaale the; is zumre meN, Josh M. sahib pesh pesh the, jab-k na peene vaaloN meN numaayaaN shaa’ir Navvaab Ja’afar Ali KhaN ‘Asar’ Lakhnavi the. jab Asar sahib ne paani maNgvaayaa aur yakay-ba’ad-deegaray ka’ii ghuuNT aek hi saaNs meN pii gaye to Josh sahib ne un ki jaanib rujuu’a kar ke yeh fil-ba-dii’a misr’a paRhaa:

paani pii pii ke kostay haiN mujhe

aur saath hi deegar sho’araa ko da’avat di k ko’ii is misr’e par misr’a lagaa kar aek matl’a banaa de. sabhi sho’araa Khaamosh rahe. thoRii der ba’ad, Josh sahib ne yeh kah kar Khud hi aek maze-daar matl’a banaa diyaa:

paaltay haiN na postay haiN mujhe
paani pii pii ke kostay haiN mujhe :-)

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Dilli ke aek mushaa’ire meN shirkat karne ke liye Josh sahib aur Firaaq sahib aek saath tashreef laaye aur aek hi Hotel meN Thaihre. mushaa’ire ka ruKh karne se kuch ‘arsa pahle, dono asHaab mahv-e-Khurd-o-nosh the. yak-aa-yak Josh sahib ne kahaa,” Firaaq, suno --- mere zehn meN aek misr’a ghuum rahaa hai, agar tum us par aek baRhiya si girah lagaa sako to mazaa aa jaaye”. Firaaq sahib ne kahaa, “kyaa hai voh misr’a”? Josh bole:

ziNdagaanii paRii hai, so lenaa!

Firaaq sahib ne thoRi der sochaa aur kahaa:

aaj aaNkhoN meN kaaT de shab-e-hijr
ziNdagaanii paRii hai, so lenaa!

WOW ------ Josh sahib to ‘ash ‘ash kar uTThe!

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kisi shahr meN aek mushaa’ira mun’aqid hu’aa aur, is mushaaa’ire ke ba’ad, sho’araa ki dil-jo’ii ke liye aek shaam maHfil-e-raqs ke liye maKhsuus ki ga’ii. us shaam Josh aur Firaaq saaHibaan paas paas baiThe the. pahli ‘item’ thi “kathak naach” ki, jis meN aek dil-pazeer kahaani aaNkhoN aur uNgliyoN ke ishaaraat aur a’ezaa-e-badan ki naql-o-Harakat ke zariiye sunaa’ii jaati hai. us ke ba’ad “taaNDav naach” hu’aa, jise Shiv ji ka naach kahaa jaata hai aur jis meN be-panaah josh-o-Kharosh ke saath aek aisi kahaani sunaa’ii jaati hai jo kisi “war cry” se kam nahiiN hoti.

jab yeh duusra naach ho rahaa tha to Firaaq sahib ne (in dono naachoN ka muqaabala karte huye) Josh sahib ke kaan meN kahaa: “Josh, voh merii shaa’iri thi aur yeh tumhaari shaa’iri hai”! :-)

yeh sun kar Josh sahib ke chehre par aek halki si muskuraahaT phail ga’ii.

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aek maHfil meN, kisi adab-navaaz ne Firaaq sahib se kahaa k “taqseem-e-vatan ke ba’ad, Hindustaan meN aap ke aur Josh sahib ke ilaava ko’ii baRaa Urdu shaa’ir nahiiN rahaa, to maiN yeh jaan_na chaahata huuN k aap ki shaa’iri aur Josh sahib ki shaa’iri meN kyaa farq hai.

Firaaq sahib ne, apni baRii baRii (vaHshat-naak) aaNkheN maTkaate huye kahaa:
“farq yeh hai k Josh mauzuu’a se mut’assir hota hai, jab-k maiN mauzuu’a ko mut’assir karta huuN”! :-)

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Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

[Naseer]

Raj Kumar SaaHib, chaaroN ke chaaroN vaaqi3aat baRe dil-chasp haiN. inheN ham tak pahuNchaane ke liye bahut bahut shukriyah. avval darje kaa yih maquulah yaqiin-an laa-javaab hai..

“PaNDit ji, aap ke aNdaaz-e-taqreer meN voh sheereeni hai k --- kaash, aap hamiiN meN se aek hote”!

Naseer

[Naseer]

janaab-i-Irfan SaaHib, aadaab

aap ke pesh kardah muzaaHiyah vaaqi3aat baht pasand aa'e. xusuusii taur pih Pitras Bukhari kaa yih jumlah..

“aur Azad, in kii tehziib bhii dekh lo ki is ke baavujuud yih sharm se paanii paanii nahiiN hote!”

bahut bahut shukriyah.

Naseer

[Naseer]

On Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:20:01 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
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> yaaraan-e-maHfil:
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> is silsile ko jaarii rakhte huye, maiN aaj aap ko aek aise vaaq’ey se ruu-shinaas karvaauuN ga jo PaNDit Nehru aur Firaaq Gorakhpuri se mut’alliq hai.
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> PaNDit ji aur Firaaq sahib barsoN aek hi shahr meN muqeem rahe, jise aap Alaahaabaad kaheN yaa Ilaahaabaad --- magar vaaqe’a yeh hai k in dono hastiyoN meN gaaRhi chhanti thi. is ki aek vaj’h to yeh thi k, PaNDit ji ki pai-ravii meN, Firaaq sahib bhi INC ki siyaasi sargarmiyoN meN numaayaaN kirdaar adaa karte rahe the aur is silsile meN jail bhi jaa chuke the. duusri vaj’h yeh k paNDit ji Urdu zabaan ke dil-daadah the aur is liye Firaaq sahib ke maddaHoN meN se the. nateejatan, Firaaq sahib ka PaNDit ji ki rihaa’ish-gaah (Anand Bhavan) par aanaa-jaanaa ma’amuul ki baat thi.
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> albatta, is “aane-jaane” ka aek nateeja yeh hu’aa k Firaaq sahib PaNDit ji ki chhoTi bahn Krishna (later known as Krishna Hutheesing) par farefta ho gaye aur use Khusuusi tavajjoh dene lage. yeh baat PaNdit Moti Lal Nehru ko qat’an pasaNd na thi kyuuN-k voh Firaaq sahib ki “be-raah-ravii” se ba-Khuubi vaaqif the. aur na hi Krishna ji ki taraf se Firaaq sahib ki jaanib ko’ii Khusuusi jhukaao tha. muKhtasar yeh k Firaaq sahib ka yeh ishq maHz “yak-tarfa” thaa aur, vaqt ke saath, yeh ishq un ke liye koft ka baa’is banaa. saath hi, yeh ishq Firaaq sahib ki shaa’irii par barsoN musallat rahaa!
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> maqaam-e-shukr hai k, muNdarja-baalaa saanihe ke baa-vujuud, PaNDit Jawahar Lal Nehru aur Firaaq sahib ke ta’alluqaat dostaana sataH par qaa’im rahe.
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> ba-har-Haal, ab chalte haiN us mazedaar baat ki taraf jis ke liye maiN ne itni lambi chauRi tamhiid baaNdh Daali hai. voh yeh k paNDit ji Firaaq sahib ko na to Firaaq sahib kahte the aur na hi Raghupati sahib --- bal-k voh unheN hamesha “Sahaaye sahib” kahaa karte the.
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> aek vaqt aisa aayaa k Firaaq sahib ne, apna vazn ghaTaane ke liye, kuchh aqdaam uThaaye jo kaar-aamad saabit huye. nateejatan, voh kuchh duble-patle se ho gaye. kuchh arse ba’ad, jab dono dostoN ki mulaaqaat hu’ii to PaNDit ji ne, Firaaq sahib ke muqaabiltan duble-patle jism par nazar Daalte huye, farmaayaa: “Sahaaye sahib, yeh kyaa ho rahaa hai aap ko? janaab, agar aap isi taraH kam se kamtar aur kamtar se kamtareen hote gaye to aek din aap “Sahaaye sahib” ki bajaaye “haaye sahib” ho kar rah jaayeN ge! :-) :-) :-)
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> is lateef kahaani ke ba’ad, do dilchasp kahaaniyaaN Gandhiji se mut’alliq suniye. ain mumkin hai k in meN se pahli kahaani bahut se yaaraan-e-maHfil ne pahle bhi sun rakkhi ho magar mere Khayaal meN duusri kahaani bahut se dostoN ke liye na’ii hogi.
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> 1. yeh un dinoN ki baat hai jab Gandhiji, apni siyaasi sar-garmiyoN ki ba-daulat, bahut mash_huur ho chuke the. aek martaba, jab voh London gaye huye the to unheN Bartaania ke baadshaah (= King of England) se mulaaqaat ka sharaf Haasil hu’aa. agarche us roz mausim bahut ThaNDa tha, phir bhi Gandhiji ne halke-phulke kapRe pahne huye the. jab voh baadshaah se mulaaqaat kar ke baahar aaye to aek ‘journalist’ ne un se kahaa: “Gandhiji, aap Bartaania ke baadshaah se milne gaye aur itne halke-phulke kapRe pahn kar gaye”. Gandhiji bole:
> “Don’t worry, the King was wearing enough for both of us”! :-)
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> 2. The second story refers to the time when several meetings were being held between Gandhiji and Lord Irwin (the Viceroy of India) that finally led to the Gandhi-Irwin Pact of 1931. During one of those meetings, the discussions went on and on until Gandhiji suggested a break so that he could have his mid-day meal.
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> yeh kah kar unhoN ne apna thaila khola aur us meN se apni ‘meal’ ka saamaan nikaala. Lord Irwin ne Gandhiji se kahaa, “zaraa hameN bhi to dikhaaiye k aap kyaa khaane vaale haiN”. Gandhiji ne apna saamaan-e-Ghizaa Lord Irwin ko dikhaayaa aur kahaa,”yeh haiN chaNd khajuureN aur yeh hai bakrii ka duudh”. Lord Irwin ne Hairat ka izhaar karte huye kahaa, “yeh kaisi Ghizaa khaate haiN aap”? Gandhiji ne muskraate huye kahaa:
> “janaab, yeh vuhii Ghizaa hai jo Hazrat ‘Iisa MaseeH khaayaa karte the”! 
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> yeh javaab sun kar Lord Irwin laa-javaab ho kar rah gaye.
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> maiN agli qist meN is silsile ka ruKh aek baar phir adeebaan-e-Urdu ki jaanib moRuuN ga.
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> Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

bahut xuub, Raj Kumar SaaHib. Jawahar Lal Nehru kaa “haaye sahib” vaalaa qissah aur Gandhi Jii ke donoN vaaqi3aat bahut pur-lutf the, xusuus-an "“janaab, yeh vuhii Ghizaa hai jo Hazrat ‘Iisa MaseeH khaayaa karte the”!

Naseer

[Naseer]

Raj Kumar SaaHib, aap merii masruufiyyat kaa naa-jaa'iz faa'idah uThaate hu'e itnii duur pahuNch chuke haiN kih aap ko "feedback" kii suurat meN "daad" ke sivaa ham kyaa de sakte haiN?

chaliye, Zia MuHyiddin kii zabaanii ek shaa3irah kii "aap biitii" kaa vaqi3ah suniye.

“Karachi kii ek naam-var shaa3rah ne apne shauhar-i-naamdaar kii maujuudagii meN hameN bataayaa kih mushaa3ire meN un ke shauhar un ko Daa’is par nahiiN baiThne dete balkih bi_lkul aaxirii saff meN apne pahluu meN biThaa kar xvud xazaane ke saaNp kii tarH rakhvaalii karte haiN. jab un kaa naam pukaaraa jaataa hai to vuh Daa’is tak xudaa Haafiz kahne jaate haiN. shi3r kii daad ke javaab meN jhuk jhuk ke aadaab aadaab kahne se bhii saxtii se man3 karte haiN. kahte haiN ba3zaa ba3zaa mard is se bhii excite ho jaataa hai. …………………………..tum nahiiN jaantiiN ham mard kitne Haraamii hote haiN!”

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

***janaab Naseer sahib:

yeh jaan kar Khushi hu'ii k aap ko meri is 'post' ke sabhi vaaq'eaat pasaNd aaye. aur jis maquule ka aap ne Khusuusi taur se zikr kiyaa hai, voh to vaaq'eii laa-javaab hai.

aap ki daad-dehii Khaaksaar ke liye baa'is-sad-ifteKhaar hai.

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

[Raj Kumar]

***shukriya, Naseer sahib, pahle aap ne mujhe 4 meN se 4 number diye aur ab 3 meN se 3 ---- aap vaaq'eii baRay narm-dil insaan haiN! :-)

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

[Raj Kumar]

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yaaraan-e-maHfil:

maiN aaj aap ko aek aise shaa’ir se milvaa’uuN ga jis ke naam aur kalaam se beshtar ALUPers naa-vaaqif hoN ge. yeh saaHib aek zamaane meN Dilli ki maHfiloN meN haathoN haath liye jaate the aur jinheN maiN ne, 1954-1964 ki dihaa’ii meN, mut’addid baar sunaa thaa aur in se be-panaah muta’assir bhi hu’aa thaa. meri muraad hai Maulaanaa Anwar Sabri (1896-1985) se, jin ke aek hi she’r ne mujhe un ka daa’imii maddaaH banaa liyaa tha. voh sh’er hai:

mire chaman ki KhizaaN mutma’in rahe k yahaaN
Khudaa ke fazl se aNdesha-e-bahaar nahiiN!!!

Please note the words “mutma’in”, “aNdesha-e-bahaar” and “Khudaa ke fazl se” ----- and then savor the she’r to your heart’s content.

Anwar sahib aek muHibb-e-vatan, qaum-parast aur itteHaad-pasaNd insaan the. qaumi yak-jehati un ki manzil-e-maqsuud thi. seerat aisi k baRoN ka adab aur chhoToN se pyaar un ka she’aar tha. rahii baat suurat ki to kyaaa kahuuN ----------

lamba-chauRa (be-taHaashaa) jism, lambe kaale baal, lambi kaali (aur ghanii) daaRhii, raushan aaNkheN magar kaala-dhuut chehra, sar par kabhi Gandhi Topi (laal raNg ki), kabhi uuNchi Topi (kaale raNg ki), kabhi pagri (jogiyaa raNg ki, jo be-tarteebii se baNdhii hoti thi) aur kabhi naNge sar (baal khujlaate huye); goyaa, agar voh seerat ke achchhe na hote to unheN (suurat ke liHaaz se) “haibat-naak” kahna Ghalat na hota. :-)
Even so, I always looked for his presence!

is zimn meN, aek aur baat qaabil-e-zikr hai --- voh yeh k Anwar sahib ka paidaa’ishi shahr ‘deo-baNd’ tha, jise kuchh log ‘dev-baNd’ kahte haiN, jo Ghaaliban Ghalat hai. (?)

ba-har-Haal, qudrat ki sitam-zareefi dekhiye k Hindi meN “dev” ke ma’ani “deity” ke haiN,
jab-k Faarsi meN “deo” ke ma’ani devil/demon ke haiN.
[B/W, in alfaaz ke ka’ii aur talaffuz bhi haiN magar maiN, fil-Haal, unheN beech meN nahiiN laanaa chaahata, taa-k meri baat hamvaari se chalti rahe].

Anwar sahib ka aek qit’a, jo un ki vus’at-e-nazar ka zaamin hai aur jise maiN ka’ii maHfiloN meN ‘quote’ kar chukaa huuN [kam-az-kam, aek maHfil ke to BGM sahib gavaah haiN, jo June 2010 meN Indian Embassy, Washington meN mun’aqid hu’ii thii].

aa’iiye, voh qit’a aap bhi suniye:

vus’at hai nigaahoN meN, dil keene se ‘aarii hai
jo shai bhi hai gulshan meN, voh shai hameN pyaarii hai
do beTiyaaN ik maaN kii, ik shaaKh ki do kaliyaaN
Urdu bhi hamaarii hai, Hindi bhi hamaarii hai

is tamhiid ke ba’ad, ab chalte haiN un dilchasp baatoN ki taraf jo Khaaksaar ki “chashm-diid” haiN.

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Dilli ke aek mushaa’ire meN, Pandit Gopi Nath Amn Lakhnavi naazim-e-majlis the. Amn sahib itne duble-patle the k “neem-jaaN” se lagte the, taaham mushaa’iroN ki nizaamat be-intehaa “wit aur humor” ke saath adaa karte the. jab Anwar sahib ko bulaane ki baari aa’ii to Amn sahib ne kahaa k “Anwar sahib ka ta’lluq ‘deo-baNd’ se hai”.

aek sahib, jin ke liye yeh baat na’ii thi, bole: “achchhaa, to Anwar sahib ‘deo-baNd’ se haiN”?

is savaal par, Amn sahib bole: “aap ko be-vaj’h Hairat ho rahi hai. Hindustaan meN aek hi to shahr hai jo aise “deo” ko “baNd” rakh sakta hai”. :-) :-) :-)

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Dilli ki aek aur maHfil meN, Pandit Hari Chand Akhtar nizaamat ke faraa’iz adaa kar rahe the [maiN Akhtar sahib ke tanz-o-mizaaH ka tafseeli zikr kisi aur qist meN karuuN ga].

jahaaN tak mujhe yaad hai, Anwar sahib us din shaa’id der se aaye the, is liye stage par chaRhne ki bajaaye saam’een meN baiThe the. taaham, un ki maujuudagi ham sab par vaazeH thi.

maHfil ba-dastuur chal rahi thi, albatta jab aek maqaam aisa aayaa k aek shaa’ir apna kalaam paRh chukaa aur agle shaa’ir ko bulaane ka vaqt tha to saam’een meN se ko’ii aur shaa’ir bola, “Pandit ji, mujhe abhi paRhvaa leejiye, mujhe Ghaazi-aabaad jaana hai”.

peshtar is ke Pandit ji kuchh kehte, Anwar sahib bole,” Pandit ji, in se bhi pahle mujhe paRhvaaiye, mujhe ‘Adam-aabaad jaana hai”. :-) :-) :-)

Anwar sahib ke is jumle par maHfil qahqaha-zaar ban ga’ii!

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Akhtar sahib ne, in dono sho’araa ki baat maante huye, inheN yake-ba’ad-deegare da’avat-e-kalaam di. jab Anwar sahib, apne bhaari-bharkam jism ko sambhaalte huye, stage par aaye aur microphone haath meN liyaa to aek photographer, jo hamaari taraH Anwar sahib ka maddaaH tha, un ki tasveer lene ke liye aage baRhaa. us photographer ko dekhte hi, Anwar sahib ne kahaa, “mirii tasveer le kar kyaa karo ge”?

Akhtar sahib bole, “bachchoN ko Daraayaa kareN ge”! :-) :-) :-)

is jumle par, maHfil meN voh qahqaha-zanii hu’ii k kyaa kahne --- aur is qahaqaha-zanii meN Khud Anwar sahib ne bhi baRh-chaRh kar Hissa liyaa.

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Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

[Raj Kumar]

maiN aaj aap ko kuchh aisi hastiyoN se milvaanaa chaahuuN ga, jin ka zikr ALUP par shaayad hi kabhi hu’aa ho.

1. sab se pahle, aap aek dilchasp (aur, dilchasp se bhi ziyaada, ma’ani-Khez aur sabaq-aamoz) kahaani Qazi Nazr-ul-Islaam (1899-1976) ke baare meN suniye, jo Bengaali bhashaa ke naam-var shaa’ir the aur jinhoN ne us bhaasha meN ‘Ghazal’ ki iKhteraa’a ki thi. voh, taqseem-e-Hind ke ba’ad, 1972 tak West Bengal meN rahe aur jab Bangladesh ne unheN “National poet” ka e’izaaz baKhsha to voh Hindustaan se hijrat kar ke Bangladesh jaa base. magar afsos k is hijrat ke kul chaar baras ba’ad Qazi sahib is jahaan-e-faani se kuuch kar gaye!

Qazi sahib, 1940 se le kar qareeb qareeb apne inteqaal tak, mut’addid beemaariyoN ke shikaar rahe aur is vajah se ka’ii haspataaloN meN shifaa-talab huye --- magar afsos k unheN ko’ii Khaas ifaaqa na hu’aa.

ba-har-Haal, aek din Hukuumat-e-West Bengal ne faisala kiyaa k Calcutta ke aek Khusuusi chowk meN Qazi sahib ka mujassama khaRaa kiyaa jaaye, taa-k un ki shaa’iraana ‘azmat hamesha ke liye mustanad ho jaaye. jahaaN tak mujhe yaad hai, is mujassame ke liye do laakh rupaye manzuur kiye gaye the --- jo un dinoN aek achchhi-Khaassi raqm thi.

jab yeh Khabar Qazi sahib tak pahuNchi to unhoN ne {artists ki, aur Khusuusan sho’araa ki, bad-Haali ko madd-e-nazar rakhte huye} farmaayaa:

“kaash-ke ko’ii jaa kar Hukuumat-e-West Bengal se kah de k yeh do laakh rupaye jo mere mujassame par sarf hone vaale haiN, agar yihii do laakh rupaye mujhe de diye jaayeN to maiN Khud, us chowk par jaa kar, “umr bhar ke liye” khaRaa rahne ko taiyaar huuN”!

WOW! What a loaded statement!!!

2. ab aek aur kahaani suniye, jo dilchasp hone ke saath saath sabaq-aamoz bhi hai. yeh kahaani mujhe Panjab University, Chandigarh, ke aek ‘colleague’ ne sunaa’ii thi, jab maiN vahaaN ‘Professor of Theoretical Physics’ ke ‘uhde par ta’iinaat hu’aa tha.

is kahaani ka ta’alluq Shri Hazaari Prasad Dwivedi se hai, jo Hindi ke naam-var ‘novelist’ the, aek mustanad ‘literary historian’ bhi the aur ka’ii zabaanoN par ubuur rakhte the. voh bees baras Shantiniketan meN Rabibranath Tagore ke ‘colleague’ rahe, phir das baras Banaras Hindu University meN ‘Professor and Head of the Hindi Department’ rahe aur 1960 meN Panjab University meN isi ‘uhde par ta’iinaat huye.

jin dinoN maiN Chandigarh meN tha (1967-69), mera raabita un se kabhi nahiiN
hu’aa tha. voh, Ghaaliban, mere vahaaN jaane se pahle hi apni ‘term’ puuri kar ke
Dilli jaa basay the.

ba-qaul-e-raavi, jin dinoN Dwivedi sahib Chandigarh meN the, us dauraan bahut se log jo Hindi adab ke shauqeen the, voh Dwivedi sahib se milne aate the aur un se muKhtalif mauzuu’aat par baat-cheet bhi karte the. in shaa’eqiin meN aek sahib aise bhi the jinhoN ne kam-umri hi meN Hindi bhaasha meN 6-7 novel shaa’ea kar Daale the --- go k un ‘novels’ ka ‘standard’, beshtar as_Haab ki nazroN meN, kuchh ghaTiya sa tha. lagta hai, Khud Dwivedi sahib bhi in Hazrat ke kaam se mut’assir na the.

ba-har-Haal, jab iiN-Hazrat Dwivedi sahib se mile to, apni Dher saari kitaabeN unheN de kar, un se kahne lage, “Sir, maiN ne bahut saare novel likkhe haiN aur unheN shaa’ea bhi kiyaa hai. aap bataaiye k maiN apni rachnaa’oN ko kaise ‘improve’ kar sakta huuN”?

Dwivedi sahib ne un ke kaNdhe par haath rakkha aur nihaayat saNjeedagi se kahaa, “aap ne likkha to bahut hai, ab kuchh paRh bhi leejiye”!

WOW! What an expert advice!!!

3. agli kahaani agarche sabaq-aamoz nahiiN hai par hai dilchasp.

is kahaani ka ta’alluq England ke saabiqa vazeer-e-a’azim Winston Churchill aur mash_huur suKhan-var George Bernard Shaw se hai. yeh as_Haab qareebi dost the aur aksar aek duusre par tanz kiyaa karte the. yeh bhi yaad rahe k jahaaN WC Khuub moTe-taaze jism ke maalik the, vahaaN GBS nihaayat duble-patle the.

aek din WC ne, GBS ke jism par nazar dauRaate huye, kahaa, “agar ko’ii ‘foreign tourist’ hamaare mulk meN aaye aur tumheN dekh le to voh yihii samjhe ga k is mulk meN qaHt paRaa hu’aa hai”.

is baat par GBS ne, WC ke jism par nazar Daalte huya kahaa, “aur agar voh ‘tourist’ tumheN dekh le to use is qaHt ki vajah ma’aluum ho jaaye gi”!

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naazireen, maiN apni agli qist meN is laRii ka ruKh aek baar phir adeebaan-e-Urdu ki jaanib moRuuN ga. mazeed yeh k, Christmas aur New Year ki taqreebaat ke pesh-e-nazar, meri agli qist Janvari ke pahle hafte se peshtar Haazir na ho sake gi.

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

[Anil Kala]

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> 1. sab se pahle, aap aek dilchasp (aur, dilchasp se bhi ziyaada, ma’ani-Khez aur sabaq-aamoz) kahaani Qazi Nazr-ul-Islaam (1899-1976) ke baare meN suniye, jo Bengaali bhashaa ke naam-var shaa’ir the aur jinhoN ne us bhaasha meN ‘Ghazal’ ki iKhteraa’a ki thi. voh, taqseem-e-Hind ke ba’ad, 1972 tak West Bengal meN rahe aur jab Bangladesh ne unheN “National poet” ka e’izaaz baKhsha to voh Hindustaan se hijrat kar ke Bangladesh jaa base. magar afsos k is hijrat ke kul chaar baras ba’ad Qazi sahib is jahaan-e-faani se kuuch kar gaye!
>
> Qazi sahib, 1940 se le kar qareeb qareeb apne inteqaal tak, mut’addid beemaariyoN ke shikaar rahe aur is vajah se ka’ii haspataaloN meN shifaa-talab huye --- magar afsos k unheN ko’ii Khaas ifaaqa na hu’aa.
>
> ba-har-Haal, aek din Hukuumat-e-West Bengal ne faisala kiyaa k Calcutta ke aek Khusuusi chowk meN Qazi sahib ka mujassama khaRaa kiyaa jaaye, taa-k un ki shaa’iraana ‘azmat hamesha ke liye mustanad ho jaaye. jahaaN tak mujhe yaad hai, is mujassame ke liye do laakh rupaye manzuur kiye gaye the --- jo un dinoN aek achchhi-Khaassi raqm thi.
>
> jab yeh Khabar Qazi sahib tak pahuNchi to unhoN ne {artists ki, aur Khusuusan sho’araa ki, bad-Haali ko madd-e-nazar rakhte huye} farmaayaa:
>
> “kaash-ke ko’ii jaa kar Hukuumat-e-West Bengal se kah de k yeh do laakh rupaye jo mere mujassame par sarf hone vaale haiN, agar yihii do laakh rupaye mujhe de diye jaayeN to maiN Khud, us chowk par jaa kar, “umr bhar ke liye” khaRaa rahne ko taiyaar huuN”!
>
> WOW! What a loaded statement!!!
>
> 2. ab aek aur kahaani suniye, jo dilchasp hone ke saath saath sabaq-aamoz bhi hai. yeh kahaani mujhe Panjab University, Chandigarh, ke aek ‘colleague’ ne sunaa’ii thi, jab maiN vahaaN ‘Professor of Theoretical Physics’ ke ‘uhde par ta’iinaat hu’aa tha.
>
> is kahaani ka ta’alluq Shri Hazaari Prasad Dwivedi se hai, jo Hindi ke naam-var ‘novelist’ the, aek mustanad ‘literary historian’ bhi the aur ka’ii zabaanoN par ubuur rakhte the. voh bees baras Shantiniketan meN Rabibranath Tagore ke ‘colleague’ rahe, phir das baras Banaras Hindu University meN ‘Professor and Head of the Hindi Department’ rahe aur 1960 meN Panjab University meN isi ‘uhde par ta’iinaat huye.
>
> jin dinoN maiN Chandigarh meN tha (1967-69), mera raabita un se kabhi nahiiN
> hu’aa tha. voh, Ghaaliban, mere vahaaN jaane se pahle hi apni ‘term’ puuri kar ke
> Dilli jaa basay the.
>
> ba-qaul-e-raavi, jin dinoN Dwivedi sahib Chandigarh meN the, us dauraan bahut se log jo Hindi adab ke shauqeen the, voh Dwivedi sahib se milne aate the aur un se muKhtalif mauzuu’aat par baat-cheet bhi karte the. in shaa’eqiin meN aek sahib aise bhi the jinhoN ne kam-umri hi meN Hindi bhaasha meN 6-7 novel shaa’ea kar Daale the --- go k un ‘novels’ ka ‘standard’, beshtar as_Haab ki nazroN meN, kuchh ghaTiya sa tha. lagta hai, Khud Dwivedi sahib bhi in Hazrat ke kaam se mut’assir na the.
>
> ba-har-Haal, jab iiN-Hazrat Dwivedi sahib se mile to, apni Dher saari kitaabeN unheN de kar, un se kahne lage, “Sir, maiN ne bahut saare novel likkhe haiN aur unheN shaa’ea bhi kiyaa hai. aap bataaiye k maiN apni rachnaa’oN ko kaise ‘improve’ kar sakta huuN”?
>
> Dwivedi sahib ne un ke kaNdhe par haath rakkha aur nihaayat saNjeedagi se kahaa, “aap ne likkha to bahut hai, ab kuchh paRh bhi leejiye”!
>
> WOW! What an expert advice!!!
>
> 3. agli kahaani agarche sabaq-aamoz nahiiN hai par hai dilchasp.
>
> is kahaani ka ta’alluq England ke saabiqa vazeer-e-a’azim Winston Churchill aur mash_huur suKhan-var George Bernard Shaw se hai. yeh as_Haab qareebi dost the aur aksar aek duusre par tanz kiyaa karte the. yeh bhi yaad rahe k jahaaN WC Khuub moTe-taaze jism ke maalik the, vahaaN GBS nihaayat duble-patle the.
>
> aek din WC ne, GBS ke jism par nazar dauRaate huye, kahaa, “agar ko’ii ‘foreign tourist’ hamaare mulk meN aaye aur tumheN dekh le to voh yihii samjhe ga k is mulk meN qaHt paRaa hu’aa hai”.
>
> is baat par GBS ne, WC ke jism par nazar Daalte huya kahaa, “aur agar voh ‘tourist’ tumheN dekh le to use is qaHt ki vajah ma’aluum ho jaaye gi”!
>
> -----------
>
> naazireen, maiN apni agli qist meN is laRii ka ruKh aek baar phir adeebaan-e-Urdu ki jaanib moRuuN ga. mazeed yeh k, Christmas aur New Year ki taqreebaat ke pesh-e-nazar, meri agli qist Janvari ke pahle hafte se peshtar Haazir na ho sake gi.
>
> Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

bohat shukriya Raj Saahib, aap ke pesh kiye qisse maiN dilchaspi se paRhta huN. aaj Hazari Prasad Dwivedi ka qisaa paRh kar puraani yaad taaza ho gayi jab school meN unke likhe kai essays hamaari text book meN hote the. mujhe iska aNdaaza nahiiN tha ke Hazari Prasad Dwivedi novelist bhi they. ab unka novel DhuuND kar zaruur paRhuungaa.

G B Shaw ka ek qissa mujhe yaad aataa hai.. shakl o suurat meN G B shaw kuch qaabil e taariif nahiiN the. ek martaba ek hasiin adaakaraa ne un se kahaa, kyaa khuub rahegaa agar ham shaadi kar len, hamaari aulaad kitni khubsuurat aur aqlmaNd hogi, is par G b Shaw ne kahaa, agar kahiiN aisaaa hua ke aulaad ko meri suurat mile aur tumhaari aqlmandi tab!

ek baar phir shukriyaa

Anil

[Raj Kumar]

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 6:00:38 PM UTC-8, Anil Kala wrote:
> >
> > 1. sab se pahle, aap aek dilchasp (aur, dilchasp se bhi ziyaada, ma’ani-Khez aur sabaq-aamoz) kahaani Qazi Nazr-ul-Islaam (1899-1976) ke baare meN suniye, jo Bengaali bhashaa ke naam-var shaa’ir the aur jinhoN ne us bhaasha meN ‘Ghazal’ ki iKhteraa’a ki thi. voh, taqseem-e-Hind ke ba’ad, 1972 tak West Bengal meN rahe aur jab Bangladesh ne unheN “National poet” ka e’izaaz baKhsha to voh Hindustaan se hijrat kar ke Bangladesh jaa base. magar afsos k is hijrat ke kul chaar baras ba’ad Qazi sahib is jahaan-e-faani se kuuch kar gaye!
> >
> > Qazi sahib, 1940 se le kar qareeb qareeb apne inteqaal tak, mut’addid beemaariyoN ke shikaar rahe aur is vajah se ka’ii haspataaloN meN shifaa-talab huye --- magar afsos k unheN ko’ii Khaas ifaaqa na hu’aa.
> >
> > ba-har-Haal, aek din Hukuumat-e-West Bengal ne faisala kiyaa k Calcutta ke aek Khusuusi chowk meN Qazi sahib ka mujassama khaRaa kiyaa jaaye, taa-k un ki shaa’iraana ‘azmat hamesha ke liye mustanad ho jaaye. jahaaN tak mujhe yaad hai, is mujassame ke liye do laakh rupaye manzuur kiye gaye the --- jo un dinoN aek achchhi-Khaassi raqm thi.
> >
> > jab yeh Khabar Qazi sahib tak pahuNchi to unhoN ne {artists ki, aur Khusuusan sho’araa ki, bad-Haali ko madd-e-nazar rakhte huye} farmaayaa:
> >
> > “kaash-ke ko’ii jaa kar Hukuumat-e-West Bengal se kah de k yeh do laakh rupaye jo mere mujassame par sarf hone vaale haiN, agar yihii do laakh rupaye mujhe de diye jaayeN to maiN Khud, us chowk par jaa kar, “umr bhar ke liye” khaRaa rahne ko taiyaar huuN”!
> >
> > WOW! What a loaded statement!!!
> >
> > 2. ab aek aur kahaani suniye, jo dilchasp hone ke saath saath sabaq-aamoz bhi hai. yeh kahaani mujhe Panjab University, Chandigarh, ke aek ‘colleague’ ne sunaa’ii thi, jab maiN vahaaN ‘Professor of Theoretical Physics’ ke ‘uhde par ta’iinaat hu’aa tha.
> >
> > is kahaani ka ta’alluq Shri Hazaari Prasad Dwivedi se hai, jo Hindi ke naam-var ‘novelist’ the, aek mustanad ‘literary historian’ bhi the aur ka’ii zabaanoN par ubuur rakhte the. voh bees baras Shantiniketan meN Rabibranath Tagore ke ‘colleague’ rahe, phir das baras Banaras Hindu University meN ‘Professor and Head of the Hindi Department’ rahe aur 1960 meN Panjab University meN isi ‘uhde par ta’iinaat huye.
> >
> > jin dinoN maiN Chandigarh meN tha (1967-69), mera raabita un se kabhi nahiiN
> > hu’aa tha. voh, Ghaaliban, mere vahaaN jaane se pahle hi apni ‘term’ puuri kar ke
> > Dilli jaa basay the.
> >
> > ba-qaul-e-raavi, jin dinoN Dwivedi sahib Chandigarh meN the, us dauraan bahut se log jo Hindi adab ke shauqeen the, voh Dwivedi sahib se milne aate the aur un se muKhtalif mauzuu’aat par baat-cheet bhi karte the. in shaa’eqiin meN aek sahib aise bhi the jinhoN ne kam-umri hi meN Hindi bhaasha meN 6-7 novel shaa’ea kar Daale the --- go k un ‘novels’ ka ‘standard’, beshtar as_Haab ki nazroN meN, kuchh ghaTiya sa tha. lagta hai, Khud Dwivedi sahib bhi in Hazrat ke kaam se mut’assir na the.
> >
> > ba-har-Haal, jab iiN-Hazrat Dwivedi sahib se mile to, apni Dher saari kitaabeN unheN de kar, un se kahne lage, “Sir, maiN ne bahut saare novel likkhe haiN aur unheN shaa’ea bhi kiyaa hai. aap bataaiye k maiN apni rachnaa’oN ko kaise ‘improve’ kar sakta huuN”?
> >
> > Dwivedi sahib ne un ke kaNdhe par haath rakkha aur nihaayat saNjeedagi se kahaa, “aap ne likkha to bahut hai, ab kuchh paRh bhi leejiye”!
> >
> > WOW! What an expert advice!!!
> >
> > 3. agli kahaani agarche sabaq-aamoz nahiiN hai par hai dilchasp.
> >
> > is kahaani ka ta’alluq England ke saabiqa vazeer-e-a’azim Winston Churchill aur mash_huur suKhan-var George Bernard Shaw se hai. yeh as_Haab qareebi dost the aur aksar aek duusre par tanz kiyaa karte the. yeh bhi yaad rahe k jahaaN WC Khuub moTe-taaze jism ke maalik the, vahaaN GBS nihaayat duble-patle the.
> >
> > aek din WC ne, GBS ke jism par nazar dauRaate huye, kahaa, “agar ko’ii ‘foreign tourist’ hamaare mulk meN aaye aur tumheN dekh le to voh yihii samjhe ga k is mulk meN qaHt paRaa hu’aa hai”.
> >
> > is baat par GBS ne, WC ke jism par nazar Daalte huya kahaa, “aur agar voh ‘tourist’ tumheN dekh le to use is qaHt ki vajah ma’aluum ho jaaye gi”!
> >
> > -----------
> >
> > naazireen, maiN apni agli qist meN is laRii ka ruKh aek baar phir adeebaan-e-Urdu ki jaanib moRuuN ga. mazeed yeh k, Christmas aur New Year ki taqreebaat ke pesh-e-nazar, meri agli qist Janvari ke pahle hafte se peshtar Haazir na ho sake gi.
> >
> > Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar
>

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bohat shukriya Raj Saahib, aap ke pesh kiye qisse maiN dilchaspi se paRhta huN.

***janaab Anil sahib:

yeh jaan kar dilii Khushii hu’ii k aap ko yeh qisse pasaNd aa rahe haiN. az-raah-a-karam, is dilchaspi ko bar-qaraar rakhiye ga. ***

aaj Hazari Prasad Dwivedi ka qisaa paRh kar puraani yaad taaza ho gayi jab school meN unke likhe kai essays hamaari text book meN hote the. mujhe iska aNdaaza nahiiN tha ke Hazari Prasad Dwivedi novelist bhi they. ab unka novel DhuuND kar zaruur paRhuungaa.

***qissa-go’ii ka aek faa’ida yeh bhi to hai k aek baat suni aur, us ki ba-daulat, aek aur baat yaad aa ga’ii. ilaava-azeeN, mazeed mutaal’ey ke liye ilqaa ka mil jaanaa bhi ko’ii ma’amuuli amr nahiiN hai. aur is taraH qissa-go ko bhi tasalli ho jaati hai k us ki mehnat raa’igaaN nahiiN ga’ii!*** :-)

G B Shaw ka ek qissa mujhe yaad aataa hai.. shakl o suurat meN G B shaw kuch qaabil e taariif nahiiN the. ek martaba ek hasiin adaakaraa ne un se kahaa, kyaa khuub rahegaa agar ham shaadi kar len, hamaari aulaad kitni khubsuurat aur aqlmaNd hogi, is par G b Shaw ne kahaa, agar kahiiN aisaaa hua ke aulaad ko meri suurat mile aur tumhaari aqlmandi, tab?

***GBS ka yeh qissa bahut kahaa-sunaa hai, is liye maiN ne is ka zikr itna zaruuri nahiiN samjhaa tha. magar aisa bhi ho sakta hai k ba’az ALUPers ne ise na sunaa ho; aap ne achchha kiyaa k yeh baat un tak bhi pahuNchaa dii!

albatta, meri koshish to yihii hoti hai k, jahaaN tak ho sakay, na’ii se na’ii baat sunaa’ii jaaye!***

ek baar phir shukriyaa

***navaazish hai aap ki, Anil sahib!

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

[Naseer]

On Sunday, 15 December 2019 23:59:33 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
>

>
> mire chaman ki KhizaaN mutma’in rahe k yahaaN
> Khudaa ke fazl se aNdesha-e-bahaar nahiiN!!!
>
> Please note the words “mutma’in”, “aNdesha-e-bahaar” and “Khudaa ke fazl se” ----- and then savor the she’r to your heart’s content.

bahut xuub, Raj Kumar SaaHib. vaaqi3ii shi3r nihaayat 3umdah hai.

>
> Anwar sahib aek muHibb-e-vatan, qaum-parast aur itteHaad-pasaNd insaan the. qaumi yak-jehati un ki manzil-e-maqsuud thi. seerat aisi k baRoN ka adab aur chhoToN se pyaar un ka she’aar tha. rahii baat suurat ki to kyaaa kahuuN
>

> lamba-chauRa (be-taHaashaa) jism, lambe kaale baal, lambi kaali (aur ghanii) daaRhii, raushan aaNkheN magar kaala-dhuut chehra, sar par kabhi Gandhi Topi (laal raNg ki), kabhi uuNchi Topi (kaale raNg ki), kabhi pagri (jogiyaa raNg ki, jo be-tarteebii se baNdhii hoti thi) aur kabhi naNge sar (baal khujlaate huye); goyaa, agar voh seerat ke achchhe na hote to unheN (suurat ke liHaaz se) “haibat-naak” kahna Ghalat na hota. :-)
> Even so, I always looked for his presence!
>
> is zimn meN, aek aur baat qaabil-e-zikr hai --- voh yeh k Anwar sahib ka paidaa’ishi shahr ‘deo-baNd’ tha, jise kuchh log ‘dev-baNd’ kahte haiN, jo Ghaaliban Ghalat hai. (?)
>
> ba-har-Haal, qudrat ki sitam-zareefi dekhiye k Hindi meN “dev” ke ma’ani “deity” ke haiN,
> jab-k Faarsi meN “deo” ke ma’ani devil/demon ke haiN.
> [B/W, in alfaaz ke ka’ii aur talaffuz bhi haiN magar maiN, fil-Haal, unheN beech meN nahiiN laanaa chaahata, taa-k meri baat hamvaari se chalti rahe].
>

dev/deo ke mauzuu3 par phir kabhii baat-chiit ho gii.

Naseer

[Naseer]

On Friday, 20 December 2019 01:08:11 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:

> 3. agli kahaani agarche sabaq-aamoz nahiiN hai par hai dilchasp.
>
> is kahaani ka ta’alluq England ke saabiqa vazeer-e-a’azim Winston Churchill aur mash_huur suKhan-var George Bernard Shaw se hai. yeh as_Haab qareebi dost the aur aksar aek duusre par tanz kiyaa karte the. yeh bhi yaad rahe k jahaaN WC Khuub moTe-taaze jism ke maalik the, vahaaN GBS nihaayat duble-patle the.
>
> aek din WC ne, GBS ke jism par nazar dauRaate huye, kahaa, “agar ko’ii ‘foreign tourist’ hamaare mulk meN aaye aur tumheN dekh le to voh yihii samjhe ga k is mulk meN qaHt paRaa hu’aa hai”.
>
> is baat par GBS ne, WC ke jism par nazar Daalte huya kahaa, “aur agar voh ‘tourist’ tumheN dekh le to use is qaHt ki vajah ma’aluum ho jaaye gi”!
>
> -----------

> Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

Raj Kumar SaaHib, in do Hazraat (WC & GBS)ke maquulaat par to kitaabeN chhapii hu'ii haiN. tanz-o-mizaah meN yih apnaa hii maqaam rakhte the. bahut bahut shukriyah.

GBS jaise mashaahiir ko guunaaguuN maHfiloN aur nishastoN meN mad3uu kiyaa jaataa thaa. in kii tashriif-aavarii sab ke liye, bi_lxusuus mez-baanoN ke liye baa3is-i-faxr thii. is meN mez-baan apnii saakh meN xaatir-xvaah izaafe kii tavaqqu3 bhii rakhte the.

aisii hii kisii maHfil meN GBS ko bulaayaa gayaa aur in se jo farmaa'ish kii ga'ii vuh yih thii kih unheN "sex" ke mauzuu3 par ek muxtasar saa xitaab karnaa hai. GBS ne mez-baan idaare ko suukhaa javaab de diyaa. idaare vaaloN ne un kii bahut minnat-samaajat kii lekiN un kaa javaab nafii hii meN rahaa. idaare ke pur-zor aur mutavaatir israar par unheN haar maan_naa paRii aur maHfil meN shirkat karne aur "sex" ke mauzuu3 par baat karne kii haamii bhar lii.

muqarrarah roz GBH us maHfil meN tashriif le ga'e. Stage par ek ke ba3d duusraa shaxs aataa, apne diye hu'e mazmuun par xitaab kartaa aur chalaa jaataa. aaxir meN nihaayat josh-o-xarosh aur saami3iin kii zoor-daar taaliyoN ke saath GBH ko stage par tashriif laane ke liye darxvaast kii ga'ii aur saaath hii saami3iin ko yaad dilaa diyaa gayaa kih GBS SaaHib "sex" par baat kareN ge.

GBH baRe itmi3naan aur pur-sukuuN andaaz se stage par tashriif laa'e aur apnii taqriir kaa aaGhaaz in alfaaz se kiyaa..

"Ladies and Gentlemen! *It* gives me great pleasure."!!!!

yih kah kar vuh stage se utar kar apnii nishast par baiTh ga'e!

Naseer

[Naseer]

On Friday, 20 December 2019 01:08:11 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
>
>

> naazireen, maiN apni agli qist meN is laRii ka ruKh aek baar phir adeebaan-e-Urdu ki jaanib moRuuN ga. mazeed yeh k, Christmas aur New Year ki taqreebaat ke pesh-e-nazar, meri agli qist Janvari ke pahle hafte se peshtar Haazir na ho sake gi.
>
> Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

Raj Kumar SaaHib, udhar aap "ve_hle"* aur "subak-dosh" haiN aur idhar hamaare kanDhe bojh se chhalnii! is vaqfe ke liye ham aap ke iHsaan-mand haiN!:-)

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

On Thursday, December 26, 2019 at 6:34:44 AM UTC-8, Naseer wrote:

> mire chaman ki KhizaaN mutma’in rahe k yahaaN
> Khudaa ke fazl se aNdesha-e-bahaar nahiiN!!!
>
> Please note the words “mutma’in”, “aNdesha-e-bahaar” and “Khudaa ke fazl se” ----- and then savor the she’r to your heart’s content.

bahut xuub, Raj Kumar SaaHib. vaaqi3ii shi3r nihaayat 3umdah hai.

*** I am glad you liked this she’r, Naseer sahib. This she’r alone tells us very clearly how good a poet Anwar Sabri was!***

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Raj Kumar SaaHib, in do Hazraat (WC & GBS) ke maquulaat par to kitaabeN chhapii hu'ii haiN. tanz-o-mizaah meN yih apnaa hii maqaam rakhte the. bahut bahut shukriyah.

GBS jaise mashaahiir ko guunaaguuN maHfiloN aur nishastoN meN mad3uu kiyaa jaataa thaa. in kii tashriif-aavarii sab ke liye, bi_lxusuus mez-baanoN ke liye baa3is-i-faxr thii. is meN mez-baan apnii saakh meN xaatir-xvaah izaafe kii tavaqqu3 bhii rakhte the.

aisii hii kisii maHfil meN GBS ko bulaayaa gayaa aur in se jo farmaa'ish kii ga'ii vuh yih thii kih unheN "sex" ke mauzuu3 par ek muxtasar saa xitaab karnaa hai. GBS ne mez-baan idaare ko suukhaa javaab de diyaa. idaare vaaloN ne un kii bahut minnat-samaajat kii lekiN un kaa javaab nafii hii meN rahaa. idaare ke pur-zor aur mutavaatir israar par unheN haar maan_naa paRii aur maHfil meN shirkat karne aur "sex" ke mauzuu3 par baat karne kii haamii bhar lii.

muqarrarah roz GBH us maHfil meN tashriif le ga'e. Stage par ek ke ba3d duusraa shaxs aataa, apne diye hu'e mazmuun par xitaab kartaa aur chalaa jaataa. aaxir meN nihaayat josh-o-xarosh aur saami3iin kii zoor-daar taaliyoN ke saath GBH ko stage par tashriif laane ke liye darxvaast kii ga'ii aur saaath hii saami3iin ko yaad dilaa diyaa gayaa kih GBS SaaHib "sex" par baat kareN ge.

GBH baRe itmi3naan aur pur-sukuuN andaaz se stage par tashriif laa'e aur apnii taqriir kaa aaGhaaz in alfaaz se kiyaa..

"Ladies and Gentlemen! *It* gives me great pleasure."!!!!

yih kah kar vuh stage se utar kar apnii nishast par baiTh ga'e!

***WOW, what a fantastic story re GBS; it is decidedly one of the best items in this thread. Thanks for sharing it with us.

One important lesson one learns from this story is the central role “brevity” plays in matters of tanz-o-mizaaH. The other feature is the “word-play”, which is the hallmark of this field.***

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> naazireen, maiN apni agli qist meN is laRii ka ruKh aek baar phir adeebaan-e-Urdu ki jaanib moRuuN ga. mazeed yeh k, Christmas aur New Year ki taqreebaat ke pesh-e-nazar, meri agli qist Janvari ke pahle hafte se peshtar Haazir na ho sake gi.
>
> Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

Raj Kumar SaaHib, udhar aap "ve_hle"* aur "subak-dosh" haiN aur idhar hamaare kanDhe bojh se chhalnii! is vaqfe ke liye ham aap ke iHsaan-mand haiN!:-)

***chaliye, jaate jaate, hamaarii “subak-doshii” par aek she’r sunte jaa’iye:

kashtii Dubo ke maiN to subak-dosh ho gayaa
ilzaam jis qadar the voh tuufaaN ke sar gaye!
[Musheer Jh.]

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

[Naseer]

On Sunday, 17 November 2019 22:21:51 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
>
> aur ab ek Akbar hii kaa misra3 ho jaa'e. dekhiye hamaare dostaan-i-giraamii is kii kyaa tashriiH karte haiN..
>
> pahle BA the ab biimaar haiN!
>
> ***For the time being, I pass***
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> niyaaz-maNd v niyaaz-kesh, Raj Kumar***

pahle BA the ab "Bee-maar" haiN ya3nii makkhiyaaN maarte haiN!

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

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SHABAAB AAYAA, KISII BUT PAR FIDAA HONE KA VAQT AAYAA
MIRII DUNYAA MEN BANDE KE KHUDAA HONE KA VAQT AAYAA

yaaraan-e-maHfil:

mere college ke zamaane meN, yeh she’r mujh jaise har ‘manchale nau-javaan’ ki zabaan par hu’aa karta tha --- is liye k aek din, jab college ki laRkiyaaN qataar-dar-qataar aek ‘section’ se duusre ‘section’ ki taraf jaa rahii theeN to maiN ne, be-saaKhta, yeh she’r paRh diyaa aur, aan ki aan meN, yeh she’r “jaNgal ki aag” ki taraH saare college meN phail gayaa.

do-aek din ba’ad, aek saaHib mujh se kehne lage: “bhai, tumhaara yeh she’r to Ghazab kaa hai”. maiN ne, ba-sad-ajz-o-inkesaar, arz kiyaa k “Huzoor, yeh she’r mera naheeN hai --- paNDit Hari Chand Akhtar kaa hai”!

to aa’iye aur aaj Akhtar saahib se miliye --- jinheN adabii HalqoN meN har chhoTa-baRaa “paNDit ji” kahaa kartaa thaa!

ain mumkin hai k is maHfil ke beshtar araakeen ne in paNDit ji ka naam tak na sunaa ho --- magar aek nazar Faiz Ahmad Faiz ki kulliyaat “nusKha-haa-e-vafaa” ko dekhiye to aap par is kitaab ke safHa-e-avval hi se vaazeH ho jaaye ga k Faiz sahib ne, apne ibtedaa’ii daur meN, jin chaar esaateza se istefaada kiyaa thaa, yeh paNDit ji un esaatiza meN se aek the!

taqseem-e-vatan se pehle, paNDit ji Lahore meN muqeem the aur kayee sarkaari aur Ghair-sarkaari jareedoN se munsalik the. maiN ne unheN pahli baar October 1946 meN dekha --- apne biraadar-e-moHtaram Zia saahib ke saath! vaazeh ho k maiN us vaqt kul 13 baras ka thaa magar maiN jahaaN bhi jaata tha aur jo kuchh bhi suntaa tha use apne zehn meN samo letaa tha --- Zia saahib aur Akhtar saahib ki guftgoo, na jaane kis ‘arsh par thi, magar mujhe itna zaruur yaad hai k maiN ne paNDit jo ko be-had “zaheen” paayaa!

taqseem-e-vatan ke ba’ad, paNDit ji Lahore se hijrat kar ke Dilli aa basay aur maqaam-e-shukr hai k jo qadr-e-manzilat unheN Lahore meN moyassar thi, vuhi qadr-o-manzilat unheN Dilli meN bhi moyassar hu’ii. paNDit ji na sirf aek baa-kamaal shaa’ir the, voh balaa ke bazla-saNj bhi the --- unheN zabaan par voh qudrat Haasil thi k baat baat par lateefa ghaRte the! in maHaasin ki ba-daulat voh, Dilli meN aate hi, vahaaN ki majaalis ke “naazim-e-yaktaa” ban gaye!

peshtar is ke k maiN aap ko paNDit ji ke jumla maHaasin se baiHra-var karuuN, aap un ke kalaam ke kuchh namuune mulaaHiza keejiye; farmaate haiN k

aNdaaza-e-nashaat-e-mulaaqaat keejiye
Khamiyaaza-e-nashaat magar kuchh na puuchhiye!

tuufaan-e-inteshaar ki shiddat, Khudaa panaah
phiaNkaa gayaa hai kaun kidhar, kuchh na puuchhiye!

un ka kalaam kuchh aisa tha k saam’een us par jhuum jhuum jaate the aur maiN, un ki bholi bhaali suurat dekh kar Gharq-e-tahaiyyur hota thaa aur apne dostoN se kahaa karta tha k ise kehte haiN:
“saadagii-o-pur-kaarii, be-Khudii-o-hushyaarii”!

aek aur maqaam par, paNDit ji farmaate haiN k

Khudaa ke naam par dast-o-girebaaN haiN ‘Khudaa vaale’
[please note the subtle --- or, perhaps, not-so-subtle --- satire in the term ‘Khudaa vaale’]

puura she’r hai:

Khudaa ke naam par dast-o-girebaaN haiN ‘Khudaa vaale’
bahut hai jis qadar zikr-e-Khudaa, Khauf-e-Khudaa kam hai!

Needless to say, how ‘contemporary’ this statement is.

ba-har-Haal, is Ghazal ka aek aur top-class she’r suniye:

du’aa ko haath kyuuN uTTheN mire teemaar-daaroN ke?
zabaaN se kyuuN nahiiN kahte k ummeed-e-shifaa kam hai! WOW

paNDit ji ki shaKhsiyat ka aek aur dilchasp pahluu yeh thaa k, us zamaane ki Dilli meiN, jab bhi ko’i maHfil mun’aqid hoti thi to us ki nizaamat ke liye log, sab se pehle, paNdit ji ko TaTolte the; agar voh kisi vajah se na milte to yeh zimme-daari Amn Lakhnavi saaHib ko sauNpi jaati thi. kabhi kabhi, is kaam ke liye Kanvar Mohindar Singh Bedi (jo un dinoN Karnal District ke Deputy Commissioner the) yaa phir malik-zaada Manzuur Ahmad ko chunaa jaataa thaa --- I, personally, was happy with any one of them!

1. aek mushaa’ire meN, jo k Dilli ki Chelmsford Club meN ho rahaa thaa, yeh sabhi Hazraat maujood the magar us din nizaamat ki zimme-daarii Manzuur Ahmad saahib ke sar aa paRii. mushaa’ire ke dauraan, kuchh aisa hu’aa k paNDit ji aur Bedi ji (jin ki aapas meN gaaRhii chhanti thi) kuchh der ke liye stage se uTh kar kaheeN idhar udhar chal diye. voh kahaaN gaye, yeh to vuhii jaaneN --- albatta, hameN itni Khabar to thi k kuchh log aab-e-peshii ki Haajat se ‘rest rooms’ ka ruKh karte haiN, kuchh log pyaas ke maare neeNboo-paani ki talaash meN chal nikalte haiN aur kuchh tashna-lab “aatish-e-sard” ke ta’aaqub meN sar-gardaaN hote haiN!

ba-har-Haal, jab paNDit ji aur Bedi ji stage par se Ghaa’ib the to kisi ne Manzuur Ahmad saaHib se kahaa: “Huzuur, ham to PaNDit ji ka kalaam sun_ne ke liye be-taab haiN --- aap ab unheN da’avat-e-kalaam deejiye”. Manzuur saaHib bole k “maiN kyaa karooN, PaNDit ji to kaheeN idhar udhar chale gaye haiN”!

‘ain usi vaqt paNDit ji aur Bedi ji stage par vaapas aa rahe the ---- jab paNDit ji ne yeh baat sunii to lapak kar Manzuur Ahmad sahib ke haath se ‘mike’ pakRaa aur farmaaya: “Huzuur, maiN Ghareeb to sirf IDHAR gayaa thaa, yeh to Bedi saahib haiN jo UDHAR gaye the”! :-)

paNDit ji ki is baat par maHfil qaihqaha-zaar ban gayee aur Khud Bedi saahib bhi haNste haNste loT poT ho gaye!

2. aek aur mushaa'ire meN, Pakistan se aaye huye aek shaa'ir ne kahaa: "PaNDit ji, aap aek muddat se Pakistan tashreef naheeN laaye, vahaaN log aap ko bahut yaad karte haiN". PaNDit ji bole, "bhai, log yaad kyuuN na kareN --- maiN 'Pakistan ka jhaNDaa' jo hu’aa"!

yeh sun kar voh saahib kuchh tazabzub meN paR gaye to PaNDit ji muskuraate huye bole: “dekho, Hari ka matlab hai 'haraa raNg', Chand ka matlab hai 'chaaNd' aur AKhtar ka matlab hai sitaara --- to hu'aa na Pakistan ka jhaNDaa”? :-)

On hearing this, there was hardly anyone in the audience who could control laughing!

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mu’aaf keejiye, aaj ka yeh tazkira kaafi lamba ho gayaa hai; is liye, ab maiN ise PaNDit ji hi ke aek aise she'r par Khatm karta huuN -------- which is a contemporary of ALL times.

taa Hadd-e-nazar phaili hai insaan ki dunyaa
insaan ko taa Hadd-e-nazar DhuuND rahaa huuN!

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achchha, to ab ijaazat deejiye; teen-chaar roz meN, maiN apni agli qist le kar aap ki Khidmat meN phir Haazir huuN ga.

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

[Naseer]

Raj Kumar SaaHib, aadaab.

janaab-i-3aalii, ham ne Pandit Hari Chand Akhtar kaa naam zarrur sun rakhaa hai, aur ba-taur-i-subuut is laRii par ek nazar Daaliye gaa.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.language.urdu.poetry/paNDit$20Hari$20Chand$20Akhtar%7Csort:date/alt.language.urdu.poetry/xML59uPbkwU/v9eFiVa7CWMJ

haaN, yih ma3luum nahiiN thaa kih Pandit Jii, Faiz Ahmed Faiz ke assatizah meN se the. is ke 3ilaavah aap ne Pakistani jhaNDe kaa to zikr kar diyaa lekin Pakistani shaa3ir ko gum-naam hii rakhaa!:-)

kisii mushaa3ire meN ek jaane-maane shaa3ir apnii Ghazal paRh rahe the jis kii zamiin thii...raat kitnii, ghaat kitnii,...ek shi3r kaa pahlaa misra3 yih thaa.

yih dil hai, yih jigar hai yih kalejaa

shaa3ir abhii apne shi3r ko duhraa hii rahe the jab Pandit Jii ne qadre buland aavaaz meN duusraa misra3 sunaa diyaa..

qasaa'ii de gayaa sauGhaat kitnii!

Pandit Jii ke pesh-kardah ash3aar ke liye bahut bahut shukriyah. chand maziid ash3aar kaa izaafah ho jaa'e to achchhaa ho gaa.

hameN bhii aa paRaa hai dostoN se kaam kuchh ya3nii
hamaare dostoN ke be-vafaa hone kaa vaqt aayaa

shaix-o-panDit dharm aur islaam kii baateN kareN
kuchh xudaa ke qahr kuchh in3aam kii baateN kareN

yih sunaa'eN paak naGhme avvaliiN ilhaam ke
vuh xudaa ke aaxirii paiGhaam kii baateN kareN

ham khaRe haNste raheN aur dil meN yih kahte raheN
ab yih ruxsat hoN to ham kuchh kaam kii baateN kareN

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mire chaman kii xizaaN mutma'in rahe kih yahaaN
xudaa ke fazl se andeshah-i-bahaar nahiiN

aap ke ba-qaul yih shi3r Maulana Anwar Sabiri kaa hai lekin merii ma3luumaat ke mutaabiq yih shi3r bhii Pandit Jii hii kaa hai!

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

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Raj Kumar SaaHib, aadaab.

janaab-i-3aalii, ham ne Pandit Hari Chand Akhtar kaa naam zarrur sun rakhaa hai, aur ba-taur-i-subuut is laRii par ek nazar Daaliye gaa.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.language.urdu.poetry/paNDit$20Hari$20Chand$20Akhtar%7Csort:date/alt.language.urdu.poetry/xML59uPbkwU/v9eFiVa7CWMJ

***janaab-e-man, maiN ne aap ke pesh-karda link ko kholaa to Hairat hu’ii k, daur-e-maazi meN, ham ne kin kin masaa’il par guft-guu kar rakkhi hai. in meN se bahut si baateN to ab zehn se utar chukii haiN magar, zahe qismat k, kuchh baateN abhi bhi zehn meN muqaiyyad haiN. Khair, yeh jaan kar Khushi hu’ii k aap (meri vasaatat se) in PaNDit ji ke aNdaaz-e-shaa’irii se vaaqif ho chuke haiN. albatta, is laRii meN aap in sahib ke tanz-o-mizaaH ka lutf leN ge.***

haaN, yih ma3luum nahiiN thaa kih Pandit Jii, Faiz Ahmed Faiz ke assatizah meN se the.

***chaliye, ham ne aap ko ko’ii to “kaam ki baat” bataa hi dii naa!***

is ke 3ilaavah aap ne Pakistani jhaNDe kaa to zikr kar diyaa lekin Pakistani shaa3ir ko gum-naam hii rakhaa! :-)

***agarche yeh vaaq’ea mera chashm-diid hai, afsos k mujhe us Pakistani shaa’ir ka naam yaad nahiiN rahaa.***

kisii mushaa3ire meN ek jaane-maane shaa3ir apnii Ghazal paRh rahe the jis kii zamiin thii...raat kitnii, ghaat kitnii,...ek shi3r kaa pahlaa misra3 yih thaa.

yih dil hai, yih jigar hai yih kalejaa

shaa3ir abhii apne shi3r ko duhraa hii rahe the jab Pandit Jii ne qadre buland aavaaz meN duusraa misra3 sunaa diyaa:

qasaa'ii de gayaa sauGhaat kitnii!

***dekhiye, aap ne bhi yahaaN us “jaane maane shaa’ir” ko gum-naam rakkha hai --- kyaa yahaaN ham se badla lene ki bhaavna ka daKhl to nahii tha? :-)

ba-har-Haal, maiN us “jaane maane shaa’ir” ko be-niqaab kiye deta huuN --- he was none other than Hazrat NuuH Naarvii!

aur is Ghazal ki radeef “kyaa kyaa” thii, na k “kitnii” --- taaham, is kahaani ki lataafat vuhi hai jo aap ki ‘post’ se vaazeH hai.***

Pandit Jii ke pesh-kardah ash3aar ke liye bahut bahut shukriyah. chand maziid ash3aar kaa izaafah ho jaa'e to achchhaa ho gaa.

hameN bhii aa paRaa hai dostoN se kaam kuchh ya3nii
hamaare dostoN ke be-vafaa hone kaa vaqt aayaa

shaix-o-panDit dharm aur islaam kii baateN kareN
kuchh xudaa ke qahr kuchh in3aam kii baateN kareN

yih sunaa'eN paak naGhme avvaliiN ilhaam ke
vuh xudaa ke aaxirii paiGhaam kii baateN kareN

ham khaRe haNste raheN aur dil meN yih kahte raheN
ab yih ruxsat hoN to ham kuchh kaam kii baateN kareN

***A good addition, Sir!***

mire chaman kii xizaaN mutma'in rahe kih yahaaN
xudaa ke fazl se andeshah-i-bahaar nahiiN

aap ke ba-qaul yih shi3r Maulana Anwar Sabiri kaa hai lekin merii ma3luumaat ke mutaabiq yih shi3r bhii Pandit Jii hii kaa hai!

***Well, this is a revelation for me --- I have always attributed this she’r to A.S. but if you say it is PaNDit ji’s, I have no reason to quarrel.

yuuN to A.S. sahib bhi aek achchhe-Khaasse shaa’ir the, magar is Khusuusi she’r ka daraja yaqeenan PaNDit ji ka sa hai.

In any case, thanks for the correction, Naseer sahib.

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

[Raj Kumar]

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yaaraan-e-maHfil:

aek chhoTe se gaa’oN ke Middle School meN saalaana imteHaan ho rahe the. aaThveeN jamaa’at ke tulabaa Urdu ka paper de rahe the. aek savaal tha --- lafz “ittefaaq” par mazmuun likhiye. aek zaheen laRke ne is mazmuun ko yuuN likkha:

1. pahle to lafz ittefaaq ke ma’ani aur is ki ma’anaviyat par do chaar jumle likkhe.
2. phir, ittefaaq ke faa’ide bataaye --- vuhi “lakRiyoN ke gaTThe” vaaali kahaani likh kar. aur saath hi ittefaaq na hone ke nuqsaanaat bhi raqam kiye.
3. aaKhir meN yeh kahaa k kabhi kabhi yuuN bhi hota hai k
(i) ittefaaq se do moToroN ki Takkar ho jaati hai, yaa
(ii) ittefaaq se ko’ii gaaRii paTRii se utar jaati hai aur, is Haalat meN,
(iii) ittefaaq se ba’az auqaat bahut sa jaanii aur maalii nuqsaan ho jaata hai, vGh, vGh.

sabhi tulabaa ne items #1 aur #2 par to thoRa-bahut likkha magar, is taalib-e-ilm ke ‘ilaava, kisii aur ka dhyaan item #3 ki jaanib na gayaa. ustaad sahib is raushan-dimaaGh laRke ke javaab se be-Hadd muta’assir huye --- yeh na jaante huye k yeh laRka, baRaa ho kar, PaNDit Hari Chand Akhtar ke naam se mash_hur hoga!

is tamhiid ke ba’ad, aap chaNd vaaqe’aat suniye jin meN aap ko PaNDit ji ke tanz-o-mizaaH ki jhalkiyaaN nazar aa’eN gi.

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kuchh adab-zauq Hazraat Urdu ke aek shaa’ir ki mad’H-saraa’ii kar rahe the. in meN se aek ne kahaa, “sahib, in ki kyaa baat hai --- bahut baRe shaa’ir haiN, ab to Hukuumat ke Kharch par Europe bhi ho aaye haiN”.

PaNDit ji ne yeh baat sunii to nihaayat saNjeedagi se kahaa, ”janaab, agar kisii duusre mulk meN jaane hi se ko’ii shaKhs baRaa shaa’ir ho sakta hai to aap ka mere vaalid sahib ke baare meN kyaa Khayaal hai? voh bhi to mulk-e-‘adam jaa chuke haiN --- magar jab tak ziNda the, aek she’r bhi mauzuuN na kar sakay”! :-)

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PaNDit ji kisi mushaa’ire meN Ghazal paRh rahe the. aek maqaam par aek sahib saam’een meN se uTThe aur PaNDit ji ke aek misr’e par eiteraaz karte huye kahne lage, ”Huzuur, aap ke is she’r ke duusre misr’e meN ‘alif’ gir rahaa hai”.

PaNDit ji ne (Khud-e’itemaadi ka izHaar karte huye) kahaa,” agar gir rahaa hai to pakaR kar khaRaa kar deejiye”! :-)

PaNDit ji ke is radd-e-amal se voh sahib samajh gaye k Ghalati Khud unheeN ki hai, is liye (bajaaye alif ko khaRaa karne ke) voh Khud hi Khafiif ho kar baiTh gaye!

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kisi aur mushaa’ire meN aek laHeem-shaHeem (= moTe-taaze) shaa’ir Ghazal paRh rahe the aur har she’r ko shuruu’a karne se pahle Haazireen se kahte the, “dekhiye, kis paaye ka she’r hai”?

jab voh is jumle ko teen-chaar baar dohraa chuke aur agle she’r ka aaGhaaz phir inheeN alfaaz meN kiyaa --- “dekhiye, kis paaye ka she’r hai”? to PaNDit ji se rahaa na gayaa. bole, “chau-paaye ka”! :-) :-) :-)

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Urdu ke aek Khud-saaz Allama shaa’ir (jo aksar mushaa’iroN meN do-teen GhazleN paRhaa karte the) aek mushaa’ire meN apni Ghazal ke kul teen ash’aar paRh kar ma’azirat chaahane lage. muntazim-e-maHfil janaab-e Gulzar Dehlavi ne Hairat-zadah ho kar kahaa:
“Hazrat Allama, yeh kaise ho sakta hai --- aap jaisa baRaa shaa’ir aur kul teen she’r”?

paas hi PaNDit ji baiThe the. muntazim-e-maHfil ki baat ki taa’iid karte huye, bole:
“jii haaN, yeh to bilkul aise hai jaise haathi liid ki bajaaye biiT karne lage”! :-)

yeh 'tashbeeh' sun kar sabhi sho’araa zor zor se haNsne lage aur Hazrat Allama mazeed ash’aar sunaane par yak-dam aamaada ho gaye.

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Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

[Raj Kumar]

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***janaab Naseer sahib:

When you are away, who will encourage me to continue with this thread? :-(

R.K.***

[Naseer]

On Friday, 10 January 2020 15:46:26 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> ***janaab Naseer sahib:
>
> When you are away, who will encourage me to continue with this thread? :-(
>
> R.K.***

I shall try my best to keep the "silsilah" (I mean "salaasil") going by nudging you with encouragements and sweet talk!:-)

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

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yaaraan-e-maHfil:

[der-aamadii ke liye ma’azarit-Khwaah huuN --- go k qusuur mera nahiiN bal-k un jaraaseem ka hai jinhoN ne mujhe hafta-bhar apni giraft meN jakRe rakkha aur abhi bhi puuri taraH se ruKhsat hone ka naam nahiiN le rahe]. :-(

Khair, peshtar is ke k maiN PaNDit Hari Chand Akhtar ke baare meN kuchh aur ‘arz karuuN, aap un ki aek dil-aavez Ghazal ke chaNd ash’aar suniye. yeh Ghazal maiN ne Dilli ke aek mushaa’ire meN Khud PaNDit ji ki zabaani suni thi. unhoN ne is Ghazal ke kul paaNch ash’aar paRhe the, jo yak-aa-yak mere Haafize meN maHfuuz ho gaye the. ko’ii das-baarah baras pahle, maiN ne yeh ash’aar kisi aur maHfil ki nazr kiye the magar, jahaaN tak mera Khayaal hai, maiN ne yeh ash’aar ALUP par chaspaaN nahiiN kiye. qat’a-e-nazar is ke, yeh paaNch ash’aar aaj aap ki nazr haiN. mulaaHiza farmaa’iye:

1. voh nazreN milaa’eN to nazreN jhukaanaa, kabhii chauNk uThnaa kabhii jheNp jaanaa
unheeN ki moHabbat unheeN se chhupaanaa, museebat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?

2. qayaamat se mujh ko Daraane chale ho magar yeh bhi sochaa kabhii, shaiKh saaHib?
voh Husn-e-mujassam, voh un kaa saraapaa, qayaamat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?

3. Haqeeqii majaazii ke jhagRoN meN paR kar, Haqeeqat Haqeeqat raTay jaa rahe ho
voh un kii javaanii, yeh merii tabaahii, Haqeeqat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?

4. jhukii si nigaaheN, ubharte se aaNsuu, yeh kyaa ho rahaa hai? yeh kyaa kar rahe ho?
[dekhaa aap ne PaNDit ji ka ustaadaana aNdaaz?]

puura she’r hai:

jhukii si nigaaheN, ubharte se aaNsuu, yeh kyaa ho rahaa hai? yeh kyaa kar rahe ho?
yeh tarz-e-nadaamat kisii “jaaN-ba-lab” se, ‘adaavat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?

ab zaraa maqt’a dekhiye:

5. tumheN ishq-o-ulfat se kyaa kaam Akhtar, baRe paarsaa ho --- magar yeh bataa’o!
yeh chehre ki raNgat, yeh aNdaaz-e-vaiHshat, mohabbat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?

kyaa aNdaaz hai is Ghazal ka --- kaash-ke yaaraan-e-maHfil is Ghazal ke baare meN apni qeemati aaraa se Khaaksaar ko aagaah kareN!

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chaliye, ab do-aek dilchasp baateN suniye:

1. Akhtar sahib intehaa’ii parhez-gaar the --- na sigraT, na paan, na sharaab, na kabaab --- phir bhi, voh apne Kharaabaati dostoN ka dam bharte the. aek shaam, Josh M. ki qayaadat meN, kuchh deegar mai-gasaar sho’araa ke saath aap bhi aek sharaab-Khaane ko chal diye. raaste meN, Josh sahib ne kahaa, “PaNDit ji, aap ka hamaare saath aanaa sar-aaNkhoN par --- magar aap vahaaN jaa kar kyaa kareN ge”?
PaNDit jo bole, “maiN us “bar” ke “menu” ka mutaale’a karuuN ga --- kam-az-kam, sharaab ki muKhtalif qismoN aur un ki qeematoN se to vaaqif ho jaa’uuN ga”!

chunaaN-che, aisa hi hu’aa --- mai-gasaaroN ne mai-kade ke aNdar jaa kar Khum pe Khum luNDhaaye aur hamaare paNDit ji baahar aek bench par baiTh kar us “bar” ka “menu” paRhte rahe.

jab yaar-log pii-pilaa kar baahar nikle to Josh sahib ne dekhaa k PaNDit ji abhi tak us “bar” ka “menu” paRh rahe haiN. yeh manzar dekh kar, voh bole, “PaNDit ji, aap jaisa suufi is “bar” ka “menu” paRhtaa hu’aa kuchh yuuN lagtaa hai jaise ko’ii naa-mard ----- kok-shaastra paRh rahaa ho!” :-) :-) :-)

My Goodness!

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2. Dilli ke kisii ra’iis ke haaN da’avat thi, jahaaN deegar mu’azzizeen ke ilaava kuchh shaa’ir aur adiib Hazraat bhi maujuud the, jin meN Josh M., Hafeez J. aur janaab-e-Akhtar numaayaaN daraja rakhte the. Josh sahib, apne jigrii dostoN ke saath sarf-e-jaam the. na jaane, unheN kyaa suujhii k achaanak bol uThe k --- lafz “vahm” mo’annis hai; jo log ise muzakkar likhte haiN, voh Ghalati par haiN!

Akhtar sahib ne fauran tardiid kii, “nahiiN qibla, aap ko muGhaalata ho rahaa hai. lafz “vahm” muzakkar hai”!

magar Josh sahib us aalam meN the k kisi aur ki baat ko saHiiH tasliim karne ke “mood” meN nahiiN the, so apni baat par aRay rahe. nateejatan, Josh sahib aur Akhtar sahib meN yeh baHs kaafi tuul pakaR ga’ii, phir bhi in dono meN ko’ii samjhota na ho sakaa.

is baHs ki tavaalat se kabiida-Khaatir ho kar, Hafeez sahib ne (tongue-in-cheek) kahaa,”yaar Akhtar, tum bhi ajiib aadami ho k Josh ko, nashay ke aalam meN dekh kar, us se aek Ghalat baat manvaane ki koshish kar rahe ho. voh Ghariib Theek hi to kah rahaa hai k lafz “vahm” mu’annis hai --- tum ne shaayad ustaad DaaGh ka yeh she’r nahiiN paRhaa:

*shikvii* nahiiN kisii ki mulaaqaat *kii* mujhe
tum jaante ho, vahm hai jis baat *kii* mujhe! WOW!

Hafeez sahib ki is bar-jasta ‘parody’ ko sun kar, har shaKhs khilkhilaa uTThaa magar --- jahaaN Akhtar sahib muskuraa diye, vahaaN Josh sahib talmalaa diye!

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Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

[Raj Kumar]

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yaaraan-e-maHfil:

apne is silsile ko jaarii rakhte huye, aaj maiN aap ko kuchh aisi hastiyoN se milvaa’uuN ga jin ka beshtar vaqt to siyaasat ke maidaan meN guzraa magar un ke dil meN Urdu shaa’iri ki be-panaah qadr thi. mazeed yeh k mundaraja-zail sabhi vaaq’eaat mere “chashm-deed” haiN!

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1. sab se pahle, maiN aap ko Dilli ke aek mushaa’ire ki baat sunaata huuN jahaaN janaab FaKhruddin Ali Ahmad sahib sadr-e-maHfil the. Ali Ahmad sahib the to siyaasat-daan (jo us vaqt Indira Gandhi ki kaabiina ke member the aur ba’ad meN sadr-e-Hind bhi banay), magar voh she’r-o-shaa’iri ka achchha-Khaassa zauq rakhte the, go k voh Khud she’r nahiiN kahte the. mazay ki baat yeh hai k un ka shajra-e-nasb duur-daraaz ho kar Mirza Ghalib ke saath jaa milta tha.

jab naazim-e-mushaa’ira ne Ali Ahmad sahib ko ibtedaa’ii taqreer ke liye bulaaya to un ke is duur-daraaz ke ta’alluq ka (jo Mirza Ghalib se tha) ka zikr bhi kiyaa. nateejatan, Ali Ahmad sahib nihaayat ‘emotional’ ho gaye aur microphone sambhaalte hi bole:

“kahaaN maiN aur kahaaN Mirza Ghaalib? un ka deeveen to haathoN-haath liyaa jaata hai, jab-k mujh bad-qismat se aek bhi she’r mauzuuN na ho paaya. maiN agarche markazii kaabaana ka vazeer huuN magar mujhe ronaa aata hai k maiN shaa’ir kyuuN na ban sakaa”?

itnaa kah kar, voh sach-much rone lag ga’e --- yahaaN tak k voh apni taqreer ko aage na baRhaa sakay. is suurat-e-Haal ko dekhte huye, muntazimeen ne unheN microphone par se haTaa kar vaapas un ki kursi par biThaa diyaa!

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2. ab maiN aap ko Dilli ke aek aur mushaa’ire ki baat sunaata huuN jahaaN Sardar Swarn Singh sahib (jo markazii kaabiina meN vazeer-e-Khaarija bhi rahe aur vazeer-e-difaa’a bhi) sadr-e-maHfil the. jab naazim-e-mushaa’ira ne unheN ibtedaa’ii taqreer ke liye bulaayaa to unhoN ne chhuuTte hi kahaa:

“Khwaateen-o-Hazraat, aap yahaaN mushaa’ira sun_ne aaye haiN, taqreer sun_ne nahiiN aaye. so, meri taqreer Khatm hu’ii aur mushaa’ira shuruu’a hu’aa”!

bas itna kah kar unhoN ne microphone naazim-e-mushaa’ira ko lauTaa diyaa aur vaapas apni seat par jaa baiThe.

aap yaqeen jaaniye k jo daad Swarn Singh Sahib ko un ki is taqreer par milii, vaisi daad ba’ad meN kisi bhi shaa’ir ko us ke kalaam par na milii!

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3. ab chalte haiN aek aise mushaa’ire ki taraf jis ke sadr janaab Lal Bahadur Shastri the. yeh un dinoN ki baat hai jab Shastri sahib Railway Minister rahe the aur un ke aihd meN aek zabar-dast rail Haadisa hu’aa tha, jis meN bahut saara jaani aur maali nuqsaan sarzad hu’aa tha. is Haadise ki zimme-daari Shastri ji ne apne sar li aur Railway Ministry se iste’faa de diyaa. is vaaq’e ke thoRi der ba’ad, PaNDit Nehru ne Shastri ji ko vaapas apni kaabeena meN le liye --- as a “Minister without portfolio”, which essentially means a “special advisor to the P.M.”

is mushaai’re ke naazim PaNDit Gopi Nath Amn Lakhnavi the, jo balaa ke bazla-saNj the aur saath hi aek achchhe shaa’ir bhi the. jab unhoN ne Shastri ji ko ibtedaa’ii taqreer ke liye bulaaya to un ke e’izaaz meN yeh qit’a paRhaa:

janaab-e-Shaastrii ke dam-qadam se
yeh maHfil hai charaaGhaaN hii charaaGhaaN
banay haiN raat ko jo miir-e-maHfil
huye din ko “vazeer-e-be-qalamdaaN”!

“Minister without portfolio” ka tarjama “vazeer-e-be-qalamdaaN” sun kar log ‘ash ‘ash kar uTThe --- including Shastri sahib!

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4. Chandigarh ke aek mushaai’re meN Giani Gurmukh Singh Musafir sadr-e-maHfil the. aaN-sahib, un dinoN Punjab ke vazeer-e-a’ala the --- yeh alag baat k Naresh Kumar Shaad unheN (Ghalati se) *vazeer-e-a’azam sahib* kah kar baat karte the. isi mushaa’ire meN, maiN pahli baar, Parvez sahib ke vasaatat se, Maulaana Abr Ahsani se milaa, jo aek puKhta-mashq shaa’ir the aur Parvez sahib ke ustaad the.

jab Giani ji ko ibtedaa’ii taqreer ke liye bulaayaa gayaa to unhoN ne apni seat par baiThe baiThe kahaa k “maiN to yahaan Urdu sho’araa ko sun_ne aayaa huuN, is liye aap apna vaqt mujh par barbaad na kareN aur sho’araa Hazraat ko da’avat-e-kalaam deN”. jab logoN ne israar kiyaa to Giani ji ne vaa’da kiyaa k voh mushaa’ire ke iKhtetaam par kuchh na kuchh zaruur arz kareN ge.

Giani ji ki is jhijak ki aek vaj’h yeh bhi ho sakti hai k voh Urdu ke shaa’ir nahiiN the, bal-k Punjabi ke kavi the. vaise, mujhe Zia sahib ke tavassut se itna zaruur ma’aluum tha k Giani ji ka Punjabi kalaam nihaayat pur-asar hai. voh aksar aek chhoTi si misaal diyaa karte the jahaaN Giani ji ne apne bachpan ki daastaan ko nihaayat mo’assir aNdaaz se nazmaaya tha. Zia sahib us nazm ke do nihaayat muKhtasar se misr’e quote kiyaa karte the:

maasii ne aakhnaa, mukkhiya!
charda ii rahnaa eN, bhukkhiya!

yeh qaafiya-baNdi Zia sahib ko be-Hadd pasaNd thi --- “Gurmukh” ko “mukkhiya” kahnaa aur ise lafz “bhukkhiya” se ham-qaafiya baaNdhna yaqeenan qaabil-e-sitaa’ish hai!

ba-har-Haal, jab mushaa’ira iKhtetaam ko pahuNchaa to Giani ji se kuchh kahne ki darKhwaast kii ga’ii. unhoN ne farmaayaa k “maiN aap ko sirf aek she’r sunaa’uuN ga, aap ko pasaNd aaye na aaye”.

aur phir yeh she’r paRhaa ----- please imagine a safed-posh buzurg (with a safed daaRhii) reciting this she’r:

log kahnde ne, musaafir sunan ucchaa lag pa’ai

Then, cupping his right ear with his right hand and tilting towards the person sitting next to his right, he said:

maiN bahaana Tolyaa ae hor neRay hon daa!

The audience exploded with laughter and the mushaa’ira ended on an extremely happy note!

Raj Kumar

P.S. maiN, apni agli qist meN, aek baar phir apna ruKh adeebaan-e-Urdu ki jaanib moRuuN ga! R.K.

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[Raj Kumar]

Naseer saaHib ke naam ---------

Khush huuN maiN jab se sunaa hai, voh huye har-jaa'ii
mere ghar, dekhiye, kis roz karam hotaa hai?

R.K.

[Naseer]

na ho gaa yaad lekin jab kabhii achchhe sitaare the
hamiiN to ik tumhaare the tumhiiN to ik hamaare the

naa-ma3luum

Raj Kumar SaaHib, jahaaN maiN huuN vahaaN mere pass apnaa mobile phone hii hai aur us se muxtasar saa mazmuun to likhaa jaa saktaa hai magar tafsiilii baat nahiiN ho saktii.

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

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aaye ho to baiTho, na karo jaane ki baateN
achchhii nahiiN 'apnoN' pe sitam Dhaane ki baateN
[R. K. Qais]

[B.G. M.]

“AbhiI aaye, abhii baiThe, abhii daaman saNbhaalaa hai
tumhaarii “jaa’uuN jaa’uuN” ne to mera dam nikaalaa hai!”
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[Naseer]

On Sunday, 19 January 2020 22:56:58 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
>
> Khair, peshtar is ke k maiN PaNDit Hari Chand Akhtar ke baare meN kuchh aur ‘arz karuuN, aap un ki aek dil-aavez Ghazal ke chaNd ash’aar suniye. yeh Ghazal maiN ne Dilli ke aek mushaa’ire meN Khud PaNDit ji ki zabaani suni thi. unhoN ne is Ghazal ke kul paaNch ash’aar paRhe the, jo yak-aa-yak mere Haafize meN maHfuuz ho gaye the. ko’ii das-baarah baras pahle, maiN ne yeh ash’aar kisi aur maHfil ki nazr kiye the magar, jahaaN tak mera Khayaal hai, maiN ne yeh ash’aar ALUP par chaspaaN nahiiN kiye. qat’a-e-nazar is ke, yeh paaNch ash’aar aaj aap ki nazr haiN. mulaaHiza farmaa’iye:
>
> 1. voh nazreN milaa’eN to nazreN jhukaanaa, kabhii chauNk uThnaa kabhii jheNp jaanaa
> unheeN ki moHabbat unheeN se chhupaanaa, museebat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?
>
> 2. qayaamat se mujh ko Daraane chale ho magar yeh bhi sochaa kabhii, shaiKh saaHib?
> voh Husn-e-mujassam, voh un kaa saraapaa, qayaamat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?
>
> 3. Haqeeqii majaazii ke jhagRoN meN paR kar, Haqeeqat Haqeeqat raTay jaa rahe ho
> voh un kii javaanii, yeh merii tabaahii, Haqeeqat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?
>
> 4. jhukii si nigaaheN, ubharte se aaNsuu, yeh kyaa ho rahaa hai? yeh kyaa kar rahe ho?
> [dekhaa aap ne PaNDit ji ka ustaadaana aNdaaz?]
>
> puura she’r hai:
>
> jhukii si nigaaheN, ubharte se aaNsuu, yeh kyaa ho rahaa hai? yeh kyaa kar rahe ho?
> yeh tarz-e-nadaamat kisii “jaaN-ba-lab” se, ‘adaavat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?
>
> ab zaraa maqt’a dekhiye:
>
> 5. tumheN ishq-o-ulfat se kyaa kaam Akhtar, baRe paarsaa ho --- magar yeh bataa’o!
> yeh chehre ki raNgat, yeh aNdaaz-e-vaiHshat, mohabbat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?
>
> kyaa aNdaaz hai is Ghazal ka --- kaash-ke yaaraan-e-maHfil is Ghazal ke baare meN apni qeemati aaraa se Khaaksaar ko aagaah kareN!
>

> Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

muHtaramii-o-mukarramii Raj Kumar SaaHib, aadaab 3arz hai

mujhe ummiid hai kih aap in coronavirus se mafluuj Haalaat meN ba-xair-o-3aafiyat hoN ge.

is meN ko'ii shak nahiiN kih is Ghazal meN taGhazzul, tarannum, salaasat, ravaanii aur shiiriinii kuuT kuuT kar bharii hu'ii hai. baa-vujuud is ke maiN 3ilmu_33aruuz se sire se vaaqif nahiiN huuN, phir bhii mujhe taviil baHr vaalii GhazleN bahut pasand haiN. isii bahaane, yih naGhmah bhii sunte jaa'iye jis kii is Ghazal se kuchh kuchh mushaabihat hai.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.language.urdu.poetry/dharm%7Csort:date/alt.language.urdu.poetry/19NUY2Glcmg/UDS2KGNuCAAJ

aap zaruur Hairaan hu'e hoN ge kih kam az maiN ne aap kii is dil-kash pesh-kash ke Havaale se navishtah taHriir ko faraamosh nahiiN kiyaa!

naa-mard honaa aur kok-shaastra paRhnaa aur vahm ko mu'annas gardaan_ne vaale vaaqi3aat laa-javaab haiN. bahut bahut shukriyah.

Naseer

[Naseer]

On Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:35:52 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
>
>
> 4. Chandigarh ke aek mushaai’re meN Giani Gurmukh Singh Musafir sadr-e-maHfil the. aaN-sahib, un dinoN Punjab ke vazeer-e-a’ala the --- yeh alag baat k Naresh Kumar Shaad unheN (Ghalati se) *vazeer-e-a’azam sahib* kah kar baat karte the. isi mushaa’ire meN, maiN pahli baar, Parvez sahib ke vasaatat se, Maulaana Abr Ahsani se milaa, jo aek puKhta-mashq shaa’ir the aur Parvez sahib ke ustaad the.
>
> jab Giani ji ko ibtedaa’ii taqreer ke liye bulaayaa gayaa to unhoN ne apni seat par baiThe baiThe kahaa k “maiN to yahaan Urdu sho’araa ko sun_ne aayaa huuN, is liye aap apna vaqt mujh par barbaad na kareN aur sho’araa Hazraat ko da’avat-e-kalaam deN”. jab logoN ne israar kiyaa to Giani ji ne vaa’da kiyaa k voh mushaa’ire ke iKhtetaam par kuchh na kuchh zaruur arz kareN ge.
>
> Giani ji ki is jhijak ki aek vaj’h yeh bhi ho sakti hai k voh Urdu ke shaa’ir nahiiN the, bal-k Punjabi ke kavi the. vaise, mujhe Zia sahib ke tavassut se itna zaruur ma’aluum tha k Giani ji ka Punjabi kalaam nihaayat pur-asar hai. voh aksar aek chhoTi si misaal diyaa karte the jahaaN Giani ji ne apne bachpan ki daastaan ko nihaayat mo’assir aNdaaz se nazmaaya tha. Zia sahib us nazm ke do nihaayat muKhtasar se misr’e quote kiyaa karte the:
>
> maasii ne aakhnaa, mukkhiya!
> charda ii rahnaa eN, bhukkhiya!
>
> yeh qaafiya-baNdi Zia sahib ko be-Hadd pasaNd thi --- “Gurmukh” ko “mukkhiya” kahnaa aur ise lafz “bhukkhiya” se ham-qaafiya baaNdhna yaqeenan qaabil-e-sitaa’ish hai!
>
> ba-har-Haal, jab mushaa’ira iKhtetaam ko pahuNchaa to Giani ji se kuchh kahne ki darKhwaast kii ga’ii. unhoN ne farmaayaa k “maiN aap ko sirf aek she’r sunaa’uuN ga, aap ko pasaNd aaye na aaye”.
>
> aur phir yeh she’r paRhaa ----- please imagine a safed-posh buzurg (with a safed daaRhii) reciting this she’r:
>
> log kahnde ne, musaafir sunan ucchaa lag pa’ai
>
> Then, cupping his right ear with his right hand and tilting towards the person sitting next to his right, he said:
>
> maiN bahaana Tolyaa ae hor neRay hon daa!
>
> The audience exploded with laughter and the mushaa’ira ended on an extremely happy note!
>
> Raj Kumar
>
> P.S. maiN, apni agli qist meN, aek baar phir apna ruKh adeebaan-e-Urdu ki jaanib moRuuN ga! R.K.
>
> --------------

Raj Kumar SaaHib, aadaab.

One or two questions on the Punjabi quotes, if I may.

maasii ne aakhnaa, mukkhiya!
charda ii rahnaa eN, bhukkhiya!

Would you say "aakhnaa" or "aakhNRaa"?

log kahnde ne, musaafir sunan ucchaa lag pa’ai

maiN bahaana Tolyaa ae hor neRay hon daa!

Is it "log" or "lok"?

And once again "sunan" or "sunaNR", "hon" or "hoNR"?

Naseer

[Raj Kumar]

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 8:41:55 AM UTC-7, Naseer wrote:
> On Sunday, 19 January 2020 22:56:58 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
> >
> > Khair, peshtar is ke k maiN PaNDit Hari Chand Akhtar ke baare meN kuchh aur ‘arz karuuN, aap un ki aek dil-aavez Ghazal ke chaNd ash’aar suniye. yeh Ghazal maiN ne Dilli ke aek mushaa’ire meN Khud PaNDit ji ki zabaani suni thi. unhoN ne is Ghazal ke kul paaNch ash’aar paRhe the, jo yak-aa-yak mere Haafize meN maHfuuz ho gaye the. ko’ii das-baarah baras pahle, maiN ne yeh ash’aar kisi aur maHfil ki nazr kiye the magar, jahaaN tak mera Khayaal hai, maiN ne yeh ash’aar ALUP par chaspaaN nahiiN kiye. qat’a-e-nazar is ke, yeh paaNch ash’aar aaj aap ki nazr haiN. mulaaHiza farmaa’iye:
> >
> > 1. voh nazreN milaa’eN to nazreN jhukaanaa, kabhii chauNk uThnaa kabhii jheNp jaanaa
> > unheeN ki moHabbat unheeN se chhupaanaa, museebat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?
> >
> > 2. qayaamat se mujh ko Daraane chale ho magar yeh bhi sochaa kabhii, shaiKh saaHib?
> > voh Husn-e-mujassam, voh un kaa saraapaa, qayaamat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?
> >
> > 3. Haqeeqii majaazii ke jhagRoN meN paR kar, Haqeeqat Haqeeqat raTay jaa rahe ho
> > voh un kii javaanii, yeh merii tabaahii, Haqeeqat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?
> >
> > 4. jhukii si nigaaheN, ubharte se aaNsuu, yeh kyaa ho rahaa hai? yeh kyaa kar rahe ho?
> > [dekhaa aap ne PaNDit ji ka ustaadaana aNdaaz?]
> >
> > puura she’r hai:
> >
> > jhukii si nigaaheN, ubharte se aaNsuu, yeh kyaa ho rahaa hai? yeh kyaa kar rahe ho?
> > yeh tarz-e-nadaamat kisii “jaaN-ba-lab” se, ‘adaavat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?
> >
> > ab zaraa maqt’a dekhiye:
> >
> > 5. tumheN ishq-o-ulfat se kyaa kaam Akhtar, baRe paarsaa ho --- magar yeh bataa’o!
> > yeh chehre ki raNgat, yeh aNdaaz-e-vaiHshat, mohabbat naheeN hai to phir aur kyaa hai?
> >
> > kyaa aNdaaz hai is Ghazal ka --- kaash-ke yaaraan-e-maHfil is Ghazal ke baare meN apni qeemati aaraa se Khaaksaar ko aagaah kareN!
> >
>
> > Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

_________________________

> muHtaramii-o-mukarramii Raj Kumar SaaHib, aadaab 3arz hai
>
> mujhe ummiid hai kih aap in coronavirus se mafluuj Haalaat meN ba-xair-o-3aafiyat hoN ge.

***Welcome back, Naseer sahib!

jab aap aek lambi ta'ateel par ruKhsat ho gaye the to hamaare laboN par yeh she'r tha:

un ke jaate hi yeh kyaa ho ga'ii ghar kii suurat
na voh deevaar ki suurat hai, na dar kii suurat

aur ab jab-k aap lauT aaye haiN to inheeN laaboN par yeh she'r raqsaaN hai:

mujhe saaGhar do-baaraa mil gayaa hai
talaatum meN kinaaraa mil gayaa hai

rahii baat Khair-o-aafiyat kii to arz hai k

aek ham haiN aur aek tanhaa'ii
kis se kahiye k "aao, so jaayeN"?*** :-)

> is meN ko'ii shak nahiiN kih is Ghazal meN taGhazzul, tarannum, salaasat, ravaanii aur shiiriinii kuuT kuuT kar bharii hu'ii hai.

***mujhe yaqeen tha k aap ko yeh Ghazal be-Had pasaNd aaye gi. ab yaqeen aaya k mera voh yaqeen yaqeenan bar-maHal tha!***

baa-vujuud is ke maiN 3ilmu_33aruuz se sire se vaaqif nahiiN huuN, phir bhii mujhe taviil baHr vaalii GhazleN bahut pasand haiN. isii bahaane, yih naGhmah bhii sunte jaa'iye jis kii is Ghazal se kuchh kuchh mushaabihat hai.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.language.urdu.poetry/dharm%7Csort:date/alt.language.urdu.poetry/19NUY2Glcmg/UDS2KGNuCAAJ

***shukriya, sahib, aap ne to hameN kaheeN se kaheeN pahuNchaa diyaa. bahut mazaa aayaa.***

> aap zaruur Hairaan hu'e hoN ge kih kam az maiN ne aap kii is dil-kash pesh-kash ke Havaale se navishtah taHriir ko faraamosh nahiiN kiyaa!

***is meN hairaani ki kyaa baat hai, Naseer sahib? ab tak to ham ba-Khuubi jaan chuke haiN k dunyaa ka ko'ii bhi kona aap ki rasaa'ii se duur nahiiN hai!***

> naa-mard honaa aur kok-shaastra paRhnaa aur vahm ko mu'annas gardaan_ne vaale vaaqi3aat laa-javaab haiN. bahut bahut shukriyah.

***I am glad to know that you regard those stories as "laa-javaab"; in other words, is Khaaksaar ki meHnat bar aa'ii. :-)

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

[Naseer]

On Saturday, 2 May 2020 01:15:52 UTC+1, Raj Kumar wrote:
>
> baa-vujuud is ke maiN 3ilmu_33aruuz se sire se vaaqif nahiiN huuN, phir bhii mujhe taviil baHr vaalii GhazleN bahut pasand haiN. isii bahaane, yih naGhmah bhii sunte jaa'iye jis kii is Ghazal se kuchh kuchh mushaabihat hai.
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.language.urdu.poetry/dharm%7Csort:date/alt.language.urdu.poetry/19NUY2Glcmg/UDS2KGNuCAAJ
>
> ***shukriya, sahib, aap ne to hameN kaheeN se kaheeN pahuNchaa diyaa. bahut mazaa aayaa.***

> Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

Raj Kumar SaaHib, jis naGhme kaa maiN ne zikr kiyaa thaa us kaa link to aap tak pahuNchaa hii nahiiN! ma3zirat-xvaah huuN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4_JCZKYQMM

Naseer