English toLatin Translation

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I am getting a tattoo and need a short translation, it is for avery
dear friend that past on recently

I need to know what "Guardian Angel" is in the ancient form,
preferably how it may have been used in the latin version of the
bible.

Thanks so much, I hope you can help!

[B. T. Raven]

I don't think the term exists in the Bibel but I may be mistaken.

Here is a child's prayer in Latin:

Ángele Dei,
qui custos es mei,
me, tibi commíssum pietáte supérna,
illúmina, custódi,
rege et gubérna.
Amen.

guardian angel = angelus custodiae

or maybe just throw the two words together:

angelus custos.

Eduardus

[B. T. Raven]

"Angelus tutelaris" gets 272 googlewhacks, but "angelus custos" gets 1,800.

Eduardus

[B. T. Raven]

The plot thickens:

Aquinas:
http://www.e-aquinas.net/summa/html.php?p=1&q=113

Kepler:
http://books.google.com/books?id=h8gKAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA265&lpg=PA265&dq=%22angelus+custos%22&source=web&ots=-5f_uE4wxs&sig=RGo4JIjJz19HT5AywmnR45csFRA

or

http://tinyurl.com/yqlrdq

Swedenborg:

http://www.theheavenlydoctrines.org/search/index.cfm?action=search.displayPassage&workid=111&passageNumber=120&languageId=1

or

http://tinyurl.com/37m2xg

Also found "angelus monitor" and "angelus propugnator." It looks like many
of the 1800 hits are due to the fact that angelus custos has been chosen as
a moniker by many cybernauts.

[Ed Cryer]

"B. T. Raven" <ni...@nihilo.net> wrote in message
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Socrates had a guardian angel in the 5th century BC.
http://www.alchemylab.com/daimon.htm
"Daimon" in Greek.

Isn't it revealing of how Christian morality rose on the back of much
Greek thought; simply annexed the ideas, but demonised the language!

Ed

[B. T. Raven]

Maybe it's also the "familiar spirit" of the Old Testament:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_of_Endor

Speaking of demonised language, there is this example of sound senselessness
I came up with for an acquaintance who couldn't remember the Virgilian tag
about the wooden horse. He wrote something like .... etiam donas ferunt...
It is something that should prove as difficult to put out of mind as the
proverbial pink elephant:

Timmy owed, Anna owes, Ed, donuts, foreign teas (pronounced with an
Appalachian-Irish brogue, ... furrin tays).

Since I am safely 4000 miles distant (as the crow flies), there is no danger
that when you doff your hat, you will pummel me about the eyes and ears with
it. A famous American jurist, Oliver Wendell Holmes, once opined that a
person who perpetrates a pun on the public should be taken out and shot
without a trial, and presumably, without supper.

Eduardus, jabberwalking

[Ed Cryer]

"B. T. Raven" <ni...@nihilo.net> wrote in message

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My experience of friends and enemies is based around eye-contact.
Something occurs in that which perhaps only some future generation will
fully explain. But throughout my life I've found it as good a guide as
Socrates found his daimon.

I've met people, looked them in the eye, talked a bit, and firm
friendship follows. I experience something like "meeting in the eyes";
or a kind of recognition of the other and his boundaries; and something
more than that, almost a trust and wanting to know them better.

And then again I've met others and shuddered at the very initial
contact. Some barrier snaps into place, and I experience strong
antagonism and antipathy between us.

I strongly suspect there's no mind-reading here; just my own past
experience imposing its schema of expectations, and conditioning my
behaviour.

You and I have lived in this forum for years. If we met on some street
and started a brawl, we might fight like two alley-cats; but eventually
this common link of Latin would come out. And the more that emerged, the
more the trust would grow. And then I'd firmly expect both of us to
shake hands, look each other in the eye, and fully acknowledge all we
have in common; and that that is the basis of a productive relationship.

That happens in Homer; two warriors face to face on a battle-field meet,
talk, find they are guest-friends, exchange armour.
So, when cultures meet, they fight. But there's mercy even on the plains
of Troy.

Ed