Is my rusty latin correct?

[Patrick Forman]

Greetings,

I have been asked to translate the epitaph of the famous mathematican into
Latin:
"We must know, we will know." Now, I think that "to know" translates as
follows:
we know = sciramus, we will know = scibimus. Can anyone help me fill in the
gap?
Thanks in advance,

Patrick

[anglicus]

Ave,

Tua Latina vere robiginosa.

"we know" = "scimus"
"we will know" = "sciemus"

nota:

"we must know" = "scire debemus" vel "nos scire oportet" vel "nostrum
est scire"...

vale,
-anglicus

[Patrick Forman]

Anglicus,

Thank you very much. This is the epitaph of David Hilbert, a well-known
mathematical logician (completeness theory, etc.) at the turn of the last
century. My last Latin was in eighth grade (more than just a long time ago),
so I wasn't quite up to the task of translation. I appreciate your
intervention.

- Patrick

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[Ernest A. Bennett]

Ave, Anglice et Patrici.

How about "Quod sciendum scietur" ?

Ernestus

[Tommi Ojanperä]

anglicus <angl...@XXcnmnetwork.com> kirjoitti
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> "we must know" = "scire debemus" vel "nos scire oportet" vel "nostrum
> est scire"...

I believe using the gerund would be the most neutral option,
void of any overtones -- "nobis sciendum est".
"Debemus" suggests a moral obligation; "oportet" suggests rational
reasons; "scire nobis necesse est" means that knowing is
unavoidable; "scire nobis opus est" puts the emphasis on the
beneficial aspects of knowing; "scire coacti sumus" means that
we are somehow forced to know. The slightly archaic, direct
subordination with "oportet" is also nice: "Oportet sciamus"...
I think that about covers all the different options. :)

Tommi A. Ojanpera <to...@itu.st.jyu.fi>
Jyvaskyla, FINLAND <www.jyu.fi/~tojan>
"People say that life is the thing, but I prefer reading."
- Logan Pearsall Smith

[Keith Geaney]

You could use a gerundive construction for "must know", e.g. "sciendum nobis
[est]"

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[Tommi Ojanperä]

Keith Geaney <keith...@moocow.com> kirjoitti
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> You could use a gerundive construction for "must know", e.g. "sciendum
nobis
> [est]"

Right, gerundive, not gerund -- I always seem to confuse those
two. :)

Tommi A. Ojanpera <to...@itu.st.jyu.fi>
Jyvaskyla, FINLAND <www.jyu.fi/~tojan>

"There's no art to find the mind's construction in the face."
- William Shakespeare, "Macbeth" (I.iv.11-12)