Epistolae Platonis Graece et Latine
Johannes Patruus
Johannes Patruus
> Johannes Patruus wrote:
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>> http://www.e-rara.ch/bau_1/content/titleinfo/916254
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>> Patruus
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> Are you able to get the pdf on dial-up?
> I can get only 300k or so at a time before it cuts me off.
Using GetRight (http://www.getright.com/), I have thus far accumulated
8.25 MB, surviving, in the process, 24 involuntary disconnections
(crikey!) from the server.
Patruus
Johannes Patruus
Download successfully completed after 134 disconnections.
Lawks-a-mercy!
To adapt the title of Fr Zed's latest post(http://bit.ly/iejuzk), "the
vicissitudes of downloading roar over us like an inexorable wave".
But wait - what's that stuff about "foreheads to the ground" in his
concluding sentence? Has he been subliminally nobbled by that other crowd
- y'know those folks who keep blowing things up?
And doesn't his paragraph that commences: "This world of temporal goods .
. ." sound a bit like an exegesis of Q16:96? -
Quod est apud vos deficiet
& quod est apud Deum erit permanens.
Oh dear.
Oh dear, oh dear.
Patruus
Ed Cryer
You're on a sticky wicket with that; in fact you'd be on a sticky wicket
with any claim that the Bible owes things to the Quran.
Ed
Johannes Patruus
> Are you able to get to Fr. Zee's blog without wordpress?
Yes. Loads like any other web page in Firefox, IE & Google Chrome.
> I just see a blank screen with "done" at the bottom.
Some sites won't work properly if javascript is disabled. Could that be it?
Patruus
Ed Cryer
> Johannes Patruus wrote:
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>>> Are you able to get to Fr. Zee's blog without wordpress?
>>
>>
>>> I just see a blank screen with "done" at the bottom.
>>
>> Some sites won't work properly if javascript is disabled. Could that be it?
>>
>> Patruus
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>
> notice that you "adapted" the title and so without "downloading"
> Hokusai's fractal wave off Kanagawa might merit the name "inexorable
> wave." It seems to be eating a sampan. But vicissitude is ebb and flow,
> back and forth, ups and downs of fortune, rather than a cataclysm.
> Anyway shouldn't "supplicationibus" be "suplicationes?" You can say
> "audi mihi" but shouldn't exaudire require an accusative as in the 2010
> English version?
>
I love that Script Ohio show.
The birds on Fr Z's patio are lucky. I hang feeders up on my patio and
squirrels home in on them. Some of the tricks they do are superb. I once
hung a feeder from the very tip of a tree branch; and it wasn't long
before I saw a squirrel hanging upside down from the feeder, and the
branch bowed almost to the ground.
Ed
Ed
Johannes Patruus
> Anyway shouldn't "supplicationibus" be "suplicationes?" You can say
> "audi mihi" but shouldn't exaudire require an accusative as in the 2010
> English version?
Tha alternative dative usage is registered in the concordance -
http://goo.gl/hcS68
And today's tidings of comfort and joy -
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2011/01/memento-mori/
are redolent of Q4:78 -
Ubicumque fueritis assequetur vos mors
etiamsi sitis in turribus excelsis.
or, in Germanus de Silesia's rendering -
Ubicumque fueritis apprehendet vos mors
etiamsi incluseritis vos in turribus muratis.
Patruus
Ed Cryer
"In book 11 of Homer's Odyssey, Odysseus sails to the underworld and
converses with the shades. One of these is Achilles, who when greeted as
"blessed in life, blessed in death", responds that he would rather be a
slave to the worst of masters than be king of all the dead. But Achilles
then asks Odysseus of his son's exploits in the Trojan war, and when
Odysseus tells of Neoptolemus' heroic actions, Achilles is filled with
satisfaction. This leaves the reader with an ambiguous understanding of
how Achilles felt about the heroic life."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achilles
Ed
Johannes Patruus
> Johannes Patruus wrote:
>>
>>> Anyway shouldn't "supplicationibus" be "suplicationes?" You can say
>>> "audi mihi" but shouldn't exaudire require an accusative as in the 2010
>>> English version?
>>
>> Tha alternative dative usage is registered in the concordance -
>> http://goo.gl/hcS68
>
I cannot find one anywhere. The book's presumably still in copyright.
Patruus
> Of course it's perfectly understandable as is; it just sounds less CL
> and more ML. I think that verbs with prepositional suffixes tend to
> become more transitive than the base form even when that is totally
> intransitive as in servio (w. dat) and inservio (Plaut. "si illum
> inservibis solum...")
>>
>> And today's tidings of comfort and joy -
>> http://wdtprs.com/blog/2011/01/memento-mori/
>> are redolent of Q4:78 -
>> Ubicumque fueritis assequetur vos mors
>> etiamsi sitis in turribus excelsis.
>> or, in Germanus de Silesia's rendering -
>> Ubicumque fueritis apprehendet vos mors
>> etiamsi incluseritis vos in turribus muratis.
>
> Or more poetically:
> "
> The gude Syr Hew of Eglintoun,
> And eik Heryot, and Wyntoun,
> He hes tane out of this cuntre;
> Timor mortis conturbat me
> "
>
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>> Patruus
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Syed Moin Doja
> vicissitudes of downloading roar over us like an inexorable wave".
>
> But wait - what's that stuff about "foreheads to the ground" in his
> concluding sentence? Has he been subliminally nobbled by that other crowd
> - y'know those folks who keep blowing things up?
haha that line cracked me right up laughing, yes yes i get it -
"muslims", yup am one , but its still funny, dont know why B T Raven
thought it meant photographers though. read in "From The Holy
Mountains " by William Dalrymple, a long time ago , about this group
of Eastern Christians (dont remember which) who still bow down/
postrate in prayers at their church just as we muslims do in our
Salat. He claimed thats what all christians used to do
innitially...maybe Fr Zed was referencing that - well maybe not...but
i loved the ending in his article - "With bended knee and foreheads to
the ground, bodies and wills both bent in supplication, we beg His
patient indulgence and His peace." - guess as a muslim it really
touched me...thanks for pointing to that article.
Johannes Patruus
> Johannes Patruus wrote
>> To adapt the title of Fr Zed's latest post(http://bit.ly/iejuzk), "the
>> vicissitudes of downloading roar over us like an inexorable wave".
>>
>> But wait - what's that stuff about "foreheads to the ground" in his
>> concluding sentence? Has he been subliminally nobbled by that other crowd
>> - y'know those folks who keep blowing things up?
>
>
> haha that line cracked me right up laughing, yes yes i get it -
> "muslims", yup am one , but its still funny, dont know why B T Raven
> thought it meant photographers though.
How sure are you he wasn't kidding?
> read in "From The Holy
> Mountains " by William Dalrymple, a long time ago , about this group
> of Eastern Christians (dont remember which) who still bow down/
> postrate in prayers at their church just as we muslims do in our
> Salat.
There are actually videos on YouTube of them doing this.
> He claimed thats what all christians used to do
> innitially...maybe Fr Zed was referencing that - well maybe not...but
> i loved the ending in his article - "With bended knee and foreheads to
> the ground, bodies and wills both bent in supplication, we beg His
> patient indulgence and His peace." - guess as a muslim it really
> touched me...thanks for pointing to that article.
Any time!
Patruus
Johannes Patruus
> On 19/01/2011 13:10, Syed Moin Doja wrote:
>> Johannes Patruus wrote
>>> To adapt the title of Fr Zed's latest post(http://bit.ly/iejuzk), "the
>>> vicissitudes of downloading roar over us like an inexorable wave".
>>>
>>> But wait - what's that stuff about "foreheads to the ground" in his
>>> concluding sentence? Has he been subliminally nobbled by that other crowd
>>> - y'know those folks who keep blowing things up?
>>
>>
>> haha that line cracked me right up laughing, yes yes i get it -
>> "muslims", yup am one , but its still funny, dont know why B T Raven
>> thought it meant photographers though.
>
> How sure are you he wasn't kidding?
>
>> read in "From The Holy
>> Mountains " by William Dalrymple, a long time ago , about this group
>> of Eastern Christians (dont remember which) who still bow down/
>> postrate in prayers at their church just as we muslims do in our
>> Salat.
>
> There are actually videos on YouTube of them doing this.
This short video includes a shot of Coptic Christians prostrating during
their prayer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRLFeldPG3Y
The Jews seem to go about it a little more obstreperously:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aHWASyMjwg
Indeed, the practice appears to enjoy a certain measure of universality:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostration
Patruus