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edespalais
Mar 24, 2013, 2:36:54 AM3/24/13
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cave or caveat canem?
Johannes Patruus
Mar 24, 2013, 3:45:33 AM3/24/13
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On 24/03/2013 06:36, edespalais wrote:
> cave or caveat canem?
Cave canem = Beware of the dog.
Caveat canem = Let him [who comes here] beware of the dog.
Patruus
> cave or caveat canem?
Cave canem = Beware of the dog.
Caveat canem = Let him [who comes here] beware of the dog.
Patruus
edespalais
Mar 24, 2013, 3:51:09 AM3/24/13
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Poetic Justice
Mar 24, 2013, 1:56:48 PM3/24/13
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I guess the most famous (and only) of these was the dog whose scant
ashes and bones that survived guarded his home for 1800 years.
No bodies were found there so I guess his owners fled and left the dog
to guard their property as it always had.
This is the original with the chain's bronze ring still intact all
others are copies like the one in Pompeii and the one now on display in
the British Museum.
www.mummytombs.com/pompeii/pompeii.bauer.boscoreale.dog.jpg
"According to Garcia y Garcia, this big guard dog was found on the 20th
November 1874 chained in the entrance.
The lapilli fell from the compluvium into the entrance corridor and the
poor animal was unable to get up and unfasten himself. He died tied to
his chain, and gives a terrible impression of the poor animal's last
minutes.
The plaster cast showed his leather collar with the two bronze rings for
the chain."
2 street views of the front door and vestibulum where this guard dog was
chained.
http://pompeiiinpictures.com/pompeiiinpictures/R6/6%2014%2022.htm
Regards, Walter
ashes and bones that survived guarded his home for 1800 years.
No bodies were found there so I guess his owners fled and left the dog
to guard their property as it always had.
This is the original with the chain's bronze ring still intact all
others are copies like the one in Pompeii and the one now on display in
the British Museum.
www.mummytombs.com/pompeii/pompeii.bauer.boscoreale.dog.jpg
"According to Garcia y Garcia, this big guard dog was found on the 20th
November 1874 chained in the entrance.
The lapilli fell from the compluvium into the entrance corridor and the
poor animal was unable to get up and unfasten himself. He died tied to
his chain, and gives a terrible impression of the poor animal's last
minutes.
The plaster cast showed his leather collar with the two bronze rings for
the chain."
2 street views of the front door and vestibulum where this guard dog was
chained.
http://pompeiiinpictures.com/pompeiiinpictures/R6/6%2014%2022.htm
Regards, Walter
Ed Cryer
Mar 24, 2013, 3:00:06 PM3/24/13
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eruption. He was living with his uncle who was admiral of the fleet, at
the top end of the bay of Naples.
http://www.u.arizona.edu/~afutrell/404b/web%20rdgs/pliny%20on%20vesuvius.htm
I find them remarkably "scientific". They include what we'd call
"mushroom cloud", "tsunami" and "pyroplastic flow".
It was the latter that killed most of the still living; fried them
instantaneously at a temperature not far short of 1,000°C.
Ed
Johannes Patruus
Mar 24, 2013, 3:18:35 PM3/24/13
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Meanst thou pyroclastic (< -κλάστης) ?
> Ed
Patruus
Ed Cryer
Mar 24, 2013, 3:23:19 PM3/24/13
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Poetic Justice
Mar 26, 2013, 2:26:34 PM3/26/13
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Ed Cryer wrote;
>I find them remarkably "scientific". They
>include what we'd call "mushroom cloud",
>"tsunami" and "pyroplastic flow".
I believe I once read that Pliny's 'Umbrella Pine' (mushroom cloud)
account was not believed in the Western World until it was witnessed
again ~1700-1800's?
>It was the latter that killed most of the still
>living; fried them instantaneously at a
>temperature not far short of 1,000C.
I guess vaporized would be a good term for Herculaneum which they put at
~500C with instantaneous death.
Skin, fat, muscles gone in an instant and so intense that brains boiled
and cracked some of their skulls.
Only their skeletons survived.
http://tinyurl.com/cuuobyb
At Pompeii they were fried at ~300C but their body remained intact, they
also died instantaneously (although once thought it was from
asphyxiation).
That is why they were able to make those plaster casts in the ash voids
after the bodies decomposed.
My favorite because he was an underdog and had no choice whether to stay
of flee is him http://tinyurl.com/cmh7y5n
A slave, he is wearing a leather slave belt that would have his owner's
name on it.
He was found alone in the garden of a house, he was likely outside there
because the roofs are collapsing from the weight of the ash and
plumice-stones.
He has 2 keys on him, I wonder... all alone with the house keys(?)
perhaps the owner and his family have fled with the other slaves
carrying their valuables?
And leaving him behind, perhaps the strongest male to guard their
property?
Regards, Walter
>I find them remarkably "scientific". They
>include what we'd call "mushroom cloud",
>"tsunami" and "pyroplastic flow".
account was not believed in the Western World until it was witnessed
again ~1700-1800's?
>It was the latter that killed most of the still
>living; fried them instantaneously at a
I guess vaporized would be a good term for Herculaneum which they put at
~500C with instantaneous death.
Skin, fat, muscles gone in an instant and so intense that brains boiled
and cracked some of their skulls.
Only their skeletons survived.
http://tinyurl.com/cuuobyb
At Pompeii they were fried at ~300C but their body remained intact, they
also died instantaneously (although once thought it was from
asphyxiation).
That is why they were able to make those plaster casts in the ash voids
after the bodies decomposed.
My favorite because he was an underdog and had no choice whether to stay
of flee is him http://tinyurl.com/cmh7y5n
A slave, he is wearing a leather slave belt that would have his owner's
name on it.
He was found alone in the garden of a house, he was likely outside there
because the roofs are collapsing from the weight of the ash and
plumice-stones.
He has 2 keys on him, I wonder... all alone with the house keys(?)
perhaps the owner and his family have fled with the other slaves
carrying their valuables?
And leaving him behind, perhaps the strongest male to guard their
property?
Regards, Walter
edespalais
Apr 9, 2013, 11:46:22 PM4/9/13
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