Anno Salvatoris (AS) versus Anno Domini (AD)
John Crinnion
classical scholar RC priest and headmaster back in the 1920s) which,
in giving various dates in roman numerals, prefaces them AS - as
opposed to AD. Since the scholar in question would have gone to great
pains to achieve authenticity, can anyone explain the nuances of these
respective usages?
(2) The inscription is appended 'LDS', which I take to mean either
'Laus Deo Sit' or 'Laus Domino Sit'. While the writer clearly felt he
could take his intended reader's background knowledge for granted, I
am embarrassed to admit his confidence was misplaced in regard to
yours truly. Please enlighten.
Johannes Patruus
http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/abbr.html
and "L.D.S." (Laus Deo Sit) as a building inscription (box 3 beneath the
map):
http://digilander.libero.it/costalta/sc2000.html
"Laus Domino Sit" is unknown to Google.
Johannes
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pebal
enquiry.
Assuming that you know the school of which your priest was headmaster, write
to his successor. If, for example, the man was headmaster of Stonyhurst, it
is quite possible he was using terminology which the Jesuits prefer.
Good luck. I am sure that you will find the answer.
pebal
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Edward Casey
Also "Laus Deo Semper" was a secondary motto of the Jesuits. In some schools
student papers would have the heading, "(omnia) ad maiorem Dei gloriam" and
the conclusion "Laud Deo Semper."
valete
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> Eduardus Ioannibus ambobus sal.:
>
> Also "Laus Deo Semper" was a secondary motto of the Jesuits. In some
schools
> student papers would have the heading, "(omnia) ad maiorem Dei gloriam"
and
> the conclusion "Laud Deo Semper."
>
> valete
oops! Laus Deo Semper. Laud was an Archbishop of Canterbury.
Eduardus
Johannes Patruus
|
| Also "Laus Deo Semper" was a secondary motto of the Jesuits. In some
schools
| student papers would have the heading, "(omnia) ad maiorem Dei gloriam"
and
| the conclusion "Laud Deo Semper."
"Laus Deo Semper" is indeed a better attested interpretation of LDS than
"Laus Deo Sit":
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H53712F22
and was used at the college cited in Pebal's post - Stonyhurst:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L54722F22
(about one-quarter of the way down the page)
Johannes
a n norman
John Crinnion wrote:
[SNIP]
> (2) The inscription is appended 'LDS', which I take to mean either
> 'Laus Deo Sit' or 'Laus Domino Sit'. While the writer clearly felt he
> could take his intended reader's background knowledge for granted, I
> am embarrassed to admit his confidence was misplaced in regard to
> yours truly. Please enlighten.
LDS is 'LAUS DEO SEMPER'. I was partly educated (indoctrinated? but
they failed) at a Jesuit establishment, and this abbreviation was to be
written at the end of each peice of work. The corresponding
abbreviation for the header was the more widely known AMDG, 'AD MAIOREM
DEI GLORIAM'.
a n norman
> (2) The inscription is appended 'LDS', which I take to mean either
> 'Laus Deo Sit' or 'Laus Domino Sit'. While the writer clearly felt he
> could take his intended reader's background knowledge for granted, I
> am embarrassed to admit his confidence was misplaced in regard to
> yours truly. Please enlighten.
LDS is 'LAUS DEO SEMPER'. I was partly educated (indoctrinated? but
they failed) at a (indeed, that) Jesuit establishment, and this
a n norman
John Crinnion wrote:
> (2) The inscription is appended 'LDS', which I take to mean either
> 'Laus Deo Sit' or 'Laus Domino Sit'. While the writer clearly felt he
> could take his intended reader's background knowledge for granted, I
> am embarrassed to admit his confidence was misplaced in regard to
> yours truly. Please enlighten.
LDS is 'LAUS DEO SEMPER'. I was partly educated (indoctrinated? but
they failed) at a (indeed, that) Jesuit establishment, and this
abbreviation was to be written at the end of each piece of work. The
Edwin Menes
education for all but 5 of the last 52 years, I've never heard or read
LDS associated with the Jesuits. What we wrote across the top of our
papers in high school after AMDG was BVMH--(et) Beatae Mariae Virginis
Honorem.
Around here, LDS = Latter Day Saints. Can you show a Jesuit connection?
<G>
Edwin Menes
world. 8-) The practices of the English were not those of the
midwestern U.S. Separated by a common language.
Edward Casey
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Apparently it was the practice at Clongowes Wood in the late 1880's. See:
http://www.mrbauld.com/joyce1n.html
p. 71, line 4, Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man.
The closest link that I can find between the Jesuits and the LDS is via one
Edwin Firmage who wrote a Legal history of the Mormons which received the
1988 Alpha Sigma Nu Award from the National Association of Jesuit Colleges
and Universities. If we allow any credence to the conspiracy theorists
(Trilateralist, Jesuit Gnostic Lodge, Bavarian Illuminati, Mason worriers,
etc.) then there might be a connection via one of J. Smith's puppet
masters. The literary critic Harold Bloom makes a good case that the LDS is
the first flower of American Gnosticism. And he does this in a frankly
laudatory fashion since he identifies himself as a Jewish secular humanist
Gnostic. (see "The American Religion")
Eduardus
John Crinnion
> I cannot give you an answer, I am afraid, but I can suggest a line of
> enquiry.
>
> Assuming that you know the school of which your priest was headmaster, write
> to his successor. If, for example, the man was headmaster of Stonyhurst, it
> is quite possible he was using terminology which the Jesuits prefer.
Good thinking! He was Founder and Headmaster of a diocesan Grammar
school in North London. His spiritual and academic background was
mainly St Edmund's, Ware (where he eventually retired to teach Latin)
and Cambridge (probably under a scheme whereby an outstation of St E's
Ware was permitted Hall of Residence status).
John Crinnion
I think it *must* be 'Laus Deo Semper'. Apart from anything else, I
noticed another of the Stonyhurst entries mentioning 'tolly' as an
alternative for 'ferula'. . . and 'tolly' was what we used to call a
certain leather strap on a stick!