Non Plus Ultra Or Nec Plus Ultra?

David Amicus

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Oct 21, 2017, 3:16:00 PM10/21/17

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Which is correct "Non Plus Ultra" or "Nec Plus Ultra"? I have seen both.

Ed Cryer

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Oct 22, 2017, 7:59:34 AM10/22/17

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David Amicus wrote:
> Which is correct "Non Plus Ultra" or "Nec Plus Ultra"? I have seen both.
>

I've seen "Ne plus ultra".

Ed

B. T. Raven

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Oct 22, 2017, 11:35:06 AM10/22/17

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Ecce tres formae correctae dicti, fortasse una cum 'neve, neu, neque
plus ultra, plus extra, plus supra.' Quidni?

Eduardus

Ed Cryer

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Oct 22, 2017, 12:29:03 PM10/22/17

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Ita vero. Nec non "Plus Ultra";
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_ultra
Quod vult dicere etiam trans mare usque ad Novum Mundum.

Edus

David Amicus

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Oct 22, 2017, 1:27:39 PM10/22/17

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These links mentions "Non Plus Ultra"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_ultra

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/non_plus_ultra

Evertjan.

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Oct 22, 2017, 3:21:31 PM10/22/17

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Podcast here:

<https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ne%20plus%20ultra>

However Latin "ultra" in French is "plus", not "ne ... plus".

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David Amicus

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Oct 23, 2017, 2:19:59 AM10/23/17

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On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 12:21:31 PM UTC-7, Evertjan. wrote:
> Ed Cryer <e...@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote on 22 Oct 2017 in alt.language.latin:
>
> > David Amicus wrote:
> >> Which is correct "Non Plus Ultra" or "Nec Plus Ultra"? I have seen both.
> >>
> >
> > I've seen "Ne plus ultra".
>
> Podcast here:
>
> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ne%20plus%20ultra>
>
> However Latin "ultra" in French is "plus", not "ne ... plus".

<<It is said that the term's predecessor, non plus ultra, was inscribed on the Pillars of Hercules at the Strait of Gibraltar, which marked the western end of the classical world. The phrase served as a warning: "(Let there) not (be) more (sailing) beyond." The New Latin version ne plus ultra, meaning "(go) no more beyond," found its way into English in the 1630s.>>

So originally it seems it was NON PLUS ULTRA

Ed Cryer

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Oct 23, 2017, 8:05:54 AM10/23/17

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It looked rather like this;
http://tinyurl.com/y7tq4f4q

Ed

Ed Cryer

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Oct 23, 2017, 8:27:46 AM10/23/17

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The Neo-Latin replacement looked rather like this;
http://tinyurl.com/yd2dj7ur

Ed

David Amicus

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Oct 23, 2017, 11:14:21 AM10/23/17

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I like this one. Thanks!

Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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Oct 26, 2017, 11:45:30 AM10/26/17

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On 10/21/2017 12:15 PM, David Amicus wrote:
> Which is correct "Non Plus Ultra" or "Nec Plus Ultra"? I have seen both.
>

All I can say about THAT is Charmin Ultra is much softer (on uranus) than those skimpy store brands.

Casa de Masa

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Oct 26, 2017, 2:58:15 PM10/26/17

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As a Scatboi you would know about anything to do
with shit..little Eddie.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/Scatboi$20Eddie$20Burke

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Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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Oct 27, 2017, 9:10:15 AM10/27/17

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Hi again, my froupie.
LOL