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[mirabile dictu] came from a Greek expression ?

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henh...@gmail.com

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May 19, 2022, 1:10:40 PM5/19/22
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recently i was wondering if [mirabile dictu] came from a Greek expression, and Net-searching got me nothing. Does it occur in Homer ?

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>>> Here are all (sic!) the possible meanings and translations of the word (sic!) [mirabile dictu].

---------- Remarkably; strange to say; marvelous to relate.

Etymology: [Latin.] wonderfully, amazingly; It's a miracle!

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Do some educated ppl say the word (sic!) [mirabile dictu]. ???

Ed Cryer

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May 19, 2022, 3:25:00 PM5/19/22
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θαῦμα ἰδέσθαι (Iliad, Book 5, line 711); which, given the missing
obsolete digamma, is a perfect hexameter ending, as is "mirabile dictu".
That opens the door in Greek for any other passive infinitive, just as
Latin can have "mirabile visu" or " mirabile auditu".
The grammar is different. How would you feel about Latin "mirabile videri"?

Ed

henh...@gmail.com

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May 20, 2022, 11:49:18 AM5/20/22
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thank you!!!

in the Odyssey, Book 1 i don't see [θώϋμ, θώμ] but i see

https://sacred-texts.com/cla/homer/greek/ody01.htm
Τηλέμαχον θαύμαζον, ὃ θαρσαλέως ἀγόρευεν.

τὸν δ' αὖτ' Ἀντίνοος προσέφη, Εὐπείθεος υἱός:
"Τηλέμαχ', ἦ μάλα δή σε διδάσκουσιν θεοὶ αὐτοὶ
ὑψαγόρην τ' ἔμεναι καὶ θαρσαλέως ἀγορεύειν: 385

--------- which i guess is Telemachus marvelling.

henh...@gmail.com

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May 21, 2022, 1:19:21 PM5/21/22
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great Etym. trivia : The word [Escape] comes from the Vulgar Latin 'excappare', which
meant to "leave a pursuer with just one's cape" (Latin ex- "out of" + Late Latin cappa "hooded cloak")


pls share a great Etym. trivia (and/or morsel, gem) related to English and/or Latin.


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A.T. Murray

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May 24, 2022, 1:31:26 AM5/24/22
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On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 10:10:40 AM UTC-7, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> recently i was wondering if [mirabile dictu] came from a Greek expression, and Net-searching got me nothing. Does it occur in Homer ?
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