Liquidum Non Frangit Ieiunium

David Amicus

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Feb 20, 2015, 10:49:01 PM2/20/15

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I thought this might be of interest to some

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2015/02/new-z-swag-liquidum-non-frangit-ieiunium/

Ed Cryer

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Feb 21, 2015, 7:29:53 AM2/21/15

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David Amicus wrote:
> I thought this might be of interest to some
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> http://wdtprs.com/blog/2015/02/new-z-swag-liquidum-non-frangit-ieiunium/
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Maybe to Evertjan. I think he fasts in Lent.

Ed

Evertjan.

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Feb 21, 2015, 9:46:10 AM2/21/15

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Ed Cryer <e...@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote on 21 feb 2015 in alt.language.latin:

> Maybe to Evertjan. I think he fasts in Lent

Cogitationem nota bene!

Cibum festinanter fortasse,
tamquam frictas gallicas cum pastillo hamburgenso,
numquamque etiam in quadragesima.

Frangit amicitiam prodita quippe fides!

--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

Ed Cryer

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Feb 21, 2015, 10:45:04 AM2/21/15

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Evertjan. wrote:
> Ed Cryer <e...@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote on 21 feb 2015 in alt.language.latin:
>
>> Maybe to Evertjan. I think he fasts in Lent
>
> Cogitationem nota bene!
>
> Cibum festinanter fortasse,
> tamquam frictas gallicas cum pastillo hamburgenso,
> numquamque etiam in quadragesima.
>
> Frangit amicitiam prodita quippe fides!
>

Te bene novi, amice. Es homo capax festivitatis et venustatis; neque te
franget parvus iocus.

Ed

Ed Cryer

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Feb 21, 2015, 10:49:59 AM2/21/15

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What do you think here? "Jejune" comes from "ieiunium"; and it shows a
pejorative opinion of its origin.

Ed

Evertjan.

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Feb 21, 2015, 11:48:36 AM2/21/15

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Ed Cryer <e...@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote on 21 feb 2015 in
alt.language.latin:

>> Te bene novi, amice. Es homo capax festivitatis et venustatis; neque te
>> franget parvus iocus.
>

> What do you think here? "Jejune" comes from "ieiunium"; and it shows a
> pejorative opinion of its origin.

"Jejunum" - from the Latin adjective jejunus = empty or fasting. At autopsy
this portion of the small intestine is often empty of contents as a result
of terminal peristalsis. In English intellectual jargon, jejune is a
favorite word signifying empty or devoid of substance as in “a jejune
conversation”.
<http://www.dartmouth.edu/
~humananatomy/resources/etymology/Abdominal_viscera.htm>

Just containing water, the Greek "Nestis", the water element (Galen).

So now we are back: "Liquidum Non Frangit Ieiunium"

Jejunum = Nestis:

It was Empedocles who established four ultimate elements which make all the
structures in the world: fire, air, water, earth. Empedocles called these
four elements "roots", which he also identified with the mythical names of
Zeus, Hera, Nestis, and Aidoneus.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empedocles>

Nestis = Kore Persephone [Proserpina] the wife of Hades:

In a Classical period text ascribed to Empedocles, c. 490 – 430 BC,
describing a correspondence among four deities and the classical elements,
the name Nestis for water apparently refers to Persephone: "Now hear the
fourfold roots of everything: enlivening Hera, Hades, shining Zeus. And
Nestis, moistening mortal springs with tears."
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persephone#Nestis>

Perhaps meaning: "perein phonon" [bringing death]
<https://landofgoddesses.wordpress.com/tag/nestis/>

Ed Cryer

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Feb 21, 2015, 1:22:24 PM2/21/15

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What kept science so stuck for centuries? Why was Aristotle's physics
held as true for millennia?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Structure-Scientific-Revolutions-Thomas-Kuhn/dp/0226458083

Ed