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aida aguas

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Dec 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/25/98
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Luid Kabalen,
Ako man, mamayun ko. Nanu kaya nung muli tamu at
magkanya-kaniyang assignment ne. Antin tamong
sundalus ing armas tamu lapis, papil, tape-recorder,
camera. Balu yong reng kabalen tamu mawa la kanini?
Dakal la rin buring ibulus den. Ustu ka Pol keng
sense of urgency, kalupa ko mo Marc oyan detang buri
kong interview ala nalu ri Dang Puring D. Henson,
deng mikapatad a A. Pining at Afric o nanu pa kanyan
ing magawa?

Kaya ika Mommy ana pin ning anak ko sumulat ka!!!!!!!!!

aida

---Paul Kekai Manansala <ke...@jps.net> wrote:
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> < K a p a m p a n g a n >
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> Luid Kabalen,
>
> I agree with Mike. We need to research oral
traditions and histories,
> and we need to do so with a sense of urgency.
>
> Most of the surviving information is probably found
in the more isolated
> areas where modernization and integration are
slower in coming.
>
> Yanapamu,
> Pol
>
> siuala ding meangubie wrote:
> >
> > < K a p a m p a n g a n >
> >
> > Luid Cong Alex,
> >
> > Ngaku:
> >
> > >> Dapot buri^ ke ing methodology ning UP. Ing
marukat mu^ karin yapin itang
> > >> potang maging neng too mechanical at ing
subject masiadu neng mebutiltil at
> > >> ala^ neng kabiebie...imaginan me ing manuk a
masiadu ra nang pengalkal
> > >> ampong pengamon kng palengki dapot likuan da
namang e seli^...
> >
> > Ngamu:
> >
> > > Ecu masyadung siguradu keng buri mu
sabyan. Ing amanwan mu yapin ing
> > >style dang pamanuro a masyadung academic ampong
rigid at milalako kule anya
> > >maging boring? Palage ku depende ya yan keng
indibidwal a tuturu. Uling atin
> > >naman academic freedom karin anya ing metung a
instructor yang bala nung
> > >nanung stilu ing kayang pamanuru at alang
makapakialam kaya, boring ya man
> > >o lively.
> >
> > Aliua^ ing pamanuru^ ing amanuan ku nung e ing
method of research.
> > Masanting ya ing method of research da uling
highly scientific ya at
> > meticulous la kareng documentation ampong source
materials...ing e ku mu^
> > buri^ potang malilimit ne ing research mung
masiadu kng technicalities
> > ampong makakahun nemung pilit karetang four
corners na ning scientific
> > method...
> >
> > Nung pisasabian na ing matua at tubu^ tamung
kabiasnan...ing detached at
> > "objective" western method e la at all times
applicable.
> >
> > Metung a alimbaua^ yapin ing over emphasis ning
western method kareng
> > written documents... Kng kekatamung tubu^ng
cultura, mas matimbang ya ing
> > emphasis ning oral tradition pauli^ ning mas
intimate ya at therefore mas
> > sagradu ya.
> >
> > Kailangan ya ing ma-establish ya pa mu^ ing
"kaugnayan" o "relationship"
> > bayu mika-transfer of knowledge.
> >
> > Kaibat ing knowledge kekatamu adua ya aske o
form...ing meyagkas (spoken)
> > at ing e mayayagkas (unspoken)...
> >
> > Kening "unspoken" knowledge ya mate ing "detached
empirical method" na ning
> > west uling ala^ yang paralan a sukdan ne ini
(obsessed ya pa mo kareng
> > measurements ing Western method...puru
statistics, etc.).
> >
> > Kekatamung Kapampangan, para ataruk me ing ing
"unspoken" knowledge, dapat
> > maging yapang tune malalam at matimbang ing
kaugnayan o relationship a
> > i-establish mu kareng tau...otherwise ala^ kang
apulut.
> >
> > Alimbaua^, pikumpara mu la reng aduang maglutu^:
ing metung megaral at
> > memag-seminar yang "cooking"; ing metung naman
meragul yang sasaup kang
> > apu^ nang maglutu^... Itang anaka a meragul
sasaup kang apu^ na mas biasa
> > yang maglutu^ kesa^ ketang megaral. Bakit?
Uling bista man e ne tirung
> > apu^ na kng pamaniangkap o pamanakal, atin nang
me-establish a "bond of
> > understanding" karela na bista man e magsalita^
ing matua aintindian na na
> > ning anak...
> >
> > Aintindian yuko o masiadu nang matalinghaga^ ing
paniabyan ku?
> >
> > Ing resulta kng western scientific
method...mamamate ya kaladua ing subject
> > matter at ing research mismu^. E ku makaying
believe kng scientific
> > method. Para kanaku masiadu yang limited. Mas
believe ku pa rin kng
> > method da ring mangatua tamu a philosophical and
intuition based...nung nu
> > atiu ing emphasis kng unspoken knowledge at kng
intimate relationship...E
> > da aintindian deng westerners ini...so e yu na
rugu^ pamilit nung e ko
> > bisang makulti^ utak...
> >
> > Ea, e kayu migaganaka^ kabalen, ing kailangan mu^
para makatalus kayu yapin
> > itang muli^ kayu pamu keti...Kaibat subli kayu
kng gabun. Payampun kayung
> > pasibayu kng Indu^ tamung Tibuan at susuan yu
yang pasibayu ing kayang mal
> > a amanu.
> >
> > Mike
> > Siuala ding Meangubie
> >
> > >
> >
> >
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Paul Kekai Manansala

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Dec 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/25/98
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aida aguas wrote:
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> Luid Kabalen,

> Ako man, mamayun ko. Nanu kaya nung muli tamu at
> magkanya-kaniyang assignment ne. Antin tamong
> sundalus ing armas tamu lapis, papil, tape-recorder,
> camera. Balu yong reng kabalen tamu mawa la kanini?
> Dakal la rin buring ibulus den. Ustu ka Pol keng
> sense of urgency, kalupa ko mo Marc oyan detang buri
> kong interview ala nalu ri Dang Puring D. Henson,
> deng mikapatad a A. Pining at Afric o nanu pa kanyan
> ing magawa?

You guys are doing a great job. Obviously, we need people in Pampanga
to do most of the research. I guess we can also interview some of the
older folks who have moved here to the United States, especially those
who came from more traditional areas. There are a few Kapampangan
veterans here in their late 80's that I could approach. They are newer
immigrants and part of Veterans Equity Bill movement.

Yanapamu,
Pol

Marc Nepomuceno

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Dec 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/26/98
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Lui A. Aida,

>kalupa ko mo Marc oyan detang buri
>kong interview ala nalu ri Dang Puring D. Henson,
>deng mikapatad a A. Pining at Afric o nanu pa kanyan
>ing magawa?

Wapin.

>Kaya ika Mommy ana pin ning anak ko sumulat ka!!!!!!!!!

Wapin. Start doing it on a daily basis. One page a day.

Marc

Marc Nepomuceno

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Dec 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/26/98
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Luid Paul,

>I guess we can also interview some of the older folks who have moved here
to the United States, especially those who came from more traditional areas.
There are a few Kapampangan veterans here in their late 80's that I could
approach.

What a great idea! When are you going to do this?

aida aguas

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Dec 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/26/98
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Luid Marc,
Thanks for your advice. I thought of using a tape
recorder since I mayself could not decipher my own
handwriting after finishing a couple of paragraphs.

I again urge all kabalen to encourage their folks to
do the same. BTW I met a kabalen historian recently,
he was boasting of his family's great historical
records...his great grandfather's diary...kasi kanu
educadu la susulat la. An elitist comment...pero
there is something to learn from there.

aida

---Marc Nepomuceno <marc...@mozcom.com> wrote:
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> Lui A. Aida,
>
> >kalupa ko mo Marc oyan detang buri
> >kong interview ala nalu ri Dang Puring D. Henson,
> >deng mikapatad a A. Pining at Afric o nanu pa kanyan
> >ing magawa?
>
> Wapin.
>
> >Kaya ika Mommy ana pin ning anak ko sumulat
ka!!!!!!!!!
>
> Wapin. Start doing it on a daily basis. One page a
day.
>

> Marc
>
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siuala ding meangubie

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Dec 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/28/98
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Luid Pol,

I think that is a very good start! Maybe we could work both ways now, for
the Kapampangans here in Indung Kapampangan...and for the Kapampangan
Youths out there who are thirsting for their culture... Maybe you could
gather a group of young people for a story telling session with some of the
older folks that are there!

Luid ka Pol and I hope you'll be successful

Mike
Siuala ding Meangubie

At 10:15 25/12/98 -0800, Paul Kekai Manansala wrote:
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>aida aguas wrote:
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>> < K a p a m p a n g a n >
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>> Luid Kabalen,
>> Ako man, mamayun ko. Nanu kaya nung muli tamu at
>> magkanya-kaniyang assignment ne. Antin tamong
>> sundalus ing armas tamu lapis, papil, tape-recorder,
>> camera. Balu yong reng kabalen tamu mawa la kanini?
>> Dakal la rin buring ibulus den. Ustu ka Pol keng

>> sense of urgency, kalupa ko mo Marc oyan detang buri


>> kong interview ala nalu ri Dang Puring D. Henson,
>> deng mikapatad a A. Pining at Afric o nanu pa kanyan
>> ing magawa?
>

>You guys are doing a great job. Obviously, we need people in Pampanga

>to do most of the research. I guess we can also interview some of the


>older folks who have moved here to the United States, especially those
>who came from more traditional areas. There are a few Kapampangan

>veterans here in their late 80's that I could approach. They are newer
>immigrants and part of Veterans Equity Bill movement.
>
>Yanapamu,
>Pol
>

Rossana Ocampo Puehlhorn

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Dec 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/28/98
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Can You help me un subscribe to this?????? I can't hadle all theE mails,
help if you can.

Douglas

Marc Nepomuceno wrote:
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> Luid Paul,


>
> >I guess we can also interview some of the older folks who have moved here
> to the United States, especially those who came from more traditional areas.
> There are a few Kapampangan veterans here in their late 80's that I could
> approach.
>

> What a great idea! When are you going to do this?
>
> Marc
>

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