[k-list] Re: Pinak Candaba, sadiang "Sangtabi..."
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siuala ding meangubie
O aini pa ing bayung kapasimbalangan...
Nung lungub kayu Clark, banda kng Sapangbatu, akit mo reng bunduk kng kilub
ning Clark pamakbakan dong alang patugut kng bulldozer. Akit mu ing gabun
daraya^ uling babalatan dong mabie... Gagaua no nanaman golf courses.
Magasdan na la dugu^ reng Aita^ a sadiang makatuknang karin.
Mamulang nong tutu^ reng darayu^ keti. At ikatamu masiadu ta nang ala^ng
masabal. Mumuna agaua^ dang lasakan de ing metung a waterfall kng bunduk
Alaya. Ngeni naman pamakbakan ampong paglasauan do reng talimunduk kilub
Clark para kareng diablus dang golfcourses... Sadiang pupupulan na na^
ning Kapampangan ing mua^ ding nunu^...
Kalulu^ ta na ngan da^ potang mekibat lang pasibayu reng mal tamung nunu^...
Siuala ding Meangubie
At 11:02 16/01/99 -0800, Ariel Malig wrote:
> ...........deng atang "golf courses" aren, metung la kareng meka-sira
>keng ekonomiya na ning Thailand ampong aliwang bansa king Asia.
>non-productive projects.
>mengawa nong mengawang golf courses kaybat ala mibagsak ngan ing sabla.
>e mo man a pakinabangan.
>
> ..........mapa sanang pepakulkul naka mu at paragul naka mung "tugak
>batute."
>low maintenance ya pa. at mabilis lang dakal deng tugak. manyaman la
>pa.
>
>:-)
>
>ariel
>
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>> From: siuala ding meangubie <siu...@mozcom.com>
>> To: k-l...@egroups.com; k-l...@egroups.com
>> Subject: [k-list] Pinak Candaba, sadiang "Sangtabi..."
>> Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 2:41 AM
>>
>> Luid Atching Aida,
>>
>> Akutang mu:
>>
>> >Mike, asabi ye ing Pinak....nanong gewa ra obat
>> >sinementu re?
>>
>>
>> Sesementuan de pa mu^ Atching Aida. E me asisi i Oca Rodrigues karin...
>> Typical neng Filipino at e na ne supling ning gabun... Ing typical idea
>na
>> kng typical development ning metung a lugar bilang typical a Filipino
>yapin
>> ing gauan yang typical a ciudad ing typical a barrio...
>>
>> Nanupata^ i-develop ne kanu ing pinak kapamilatan na ning pamanalakad
>nang
>> Highway karin, pamag-drain na kareng matas nang portions niti bang gauan
>> subdivision ampong industrial estates ampong leisure resorts (golf
>courses
>> na naman anak peteng!!!)
>>
>> Typical a "projects" a ibat kng typical dang "utak" deng typical a
>> "politico"...
>>
>> Nanu palang kabaldugan na ning "typical"? Indu^ ko, keti tela^ mekitid
>> neng mekitid, ampong mebabo nang mebabo, ampong melati^ nang melati^
>> kabaldugan... typical...
>>
>> Inia yaku pasalamat ku Kapampangan ku at e ku typical...
>> F...Fi...Fip...P'weh!...lifinu...
>>
>>
>> Siuala ding Meangubie
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keti!
Siuala ding Meangubie
At 18:39 16/01/99 EST, GIL...@aol.com wrote:
>Please translate in Tagalog or English about "Pinak" to be cemented?
>
>Gil
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Marinel Pacheco
Ali ne mu siguru aintindiyan ning abe tamu ing katayang "pinak". Medyu
malalam ne ini para kareng aliua. Yaku, balu ke uling daramdaman ke kang
Apu ku. Pero deng aliua, ali ra ne gagamitan ini.
Ita mu pu,
Marinel
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Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 7:31 AM
Subject: [k-list] Re: Pinak Candaba, sadiang "Sangtabi..."
Nung mamuisit ka...ume naka't batingan me iting aptas! Ala^ kang matulid
keti!
Siuala ding Meangubie
At 18:39 16/01/99 EST, GIL...@aol.com wrote:
>Please translate in Tagalog or English about "Pinak" to be cemented?
>
>Gil
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buri nang sabian ning "Pinak" anggiang ing "sangtabi" eke rugu
balu. ngeni ke pa talagang dimdam.
manga-lati :-(
ariel
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> From: Marinel Pacheco <mar...@mdsp.com>
> To: 'k-l...@egroups.com'
> Subject: [k-list] Re: Pinak Candaba, sadiang "Sangtabi..."
> Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 5:22 AM
>
> Kabaleng Siuala:
>
> Ali ne mu siguru aintindiyan ning abe tamu ing katayang "pinak". Medyu
> malalam ne ini para kareng aliua. Yaku, balu ke uling daramdaman ke kang
> Apu ku. Pero deng aliua, ali ra ne gagamitan ini.
>
> Ita mu pu,
> Marinel
>
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> From: siuala ding meangubie[SMTP:siu...@mozcom.com]
> Reply To: k-l...@egroups.com
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 7:31 AM
> To: k-l...@egroups.com; k-l...@egroups.com
> Subject: [k-list] Re: Pinak Candaba, sadiang "Sangtabi..."
>
> Nung mamuisit ka...ume naka't batingan me iting aptas! Ala^ kang matulid
> keti!
>
>
> Siuala ding Meangubie
>
>
>
> At 18:39 16/01/99 EST, GIL...@aol.com wrote:
> >Please translate in Tagalog or English about "Pinak" to be cemented?
> >
> >Gil
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> Nung mamuisit ka...ume naka't batingan me iting aptas! Ala^ kang matulid
> keti!
>
> Siuala ding Meangubie
>
> At 18:39 16/01/99 EST, GIL...@aol.com wrote:
> >Please translate in Tagalog or English about "Pinak" to be cemented?
> >
> >Gil
Luid cabalen:
balacu sang mebating ne ian? nananu ia pa quiti.
oooops caslam cu datang ne po? macananu caia catmu ia yning e-mail cu
puru no mang magpa "delete" macasnuc. ali cu pa mo biasang mag global
delete. ania oini asna cu caluat macasiang ... ala nacu mong gagauan
nung ali magdelete magdelete magdelete.
ngana ping Papa cu ... masdas cu.
oita... oini... carin.
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Nung reng alang Dios nung ali pera namu sana reng
mituturan oneng eganagana mituran potang mimwa ne ing
Kalikasan.
Talagang itamong Kapampangan wari sobra tamu kaganaka
o misdan tamu? Reng dugong Aita ala rang akarapat o
reng memagaral at ating akarapat ken? Nananu la? Ali
lapa medala keng gewa ning Pinatubo???????
Obat ali la pandaskolan a buldit?!!
aida
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aida aguas
Ako man anyang atin nakong idad karin kemo abalu ing
buri nang sabian ning Pinak. Pero ing balu komu apin
ing baryu nung nukarin dakal a pakwan at milun king
Candaba.
aida
---Marinel Pacheco <mar...@mdsp.com> wrote:
>
> Kabaleng Siuala:
>
> Ali ne mu siguru aintindiyan ning abe tamu ing
katayang "pinak". Medyu
> malalam ne ini para kareng aliua. Yaku, balu ke
uling daramdaman ke kang
> Apu ku. Pero deng aliua, ali ra ne gagamitan ini.
>
> Ita mu pu,
> Marinel
>
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> From: siuala ding meangubie[SMTP:siu...@mozcom.com]
> Reply To: k-l...@egroups.com
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 7:31 AM
> To: k-l...@egroups.com; k-l...@egroups.com
> Subject: [k-list] Re: Pinak Candaba, sadiang
"Sangtabi..."
>
> Nung mamuisit ka...ume naka't batingan me iting
aptas! Ala^ kang matulid
> keti!
>
>
> Siuala ding Meangubie
>
>
>
> At 18:39 16/01/99 EST, GIL...@aol.com wrote:
> >Please translate in Tagalog or English about
"Pinak" to be cemented?
> >
> >Gil
> >
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Luid Mike, Ariel, kabalen,
---siuala ding meangubie <siu...@mozcom.com> wrote:
>
> Luid Cong Ariel ampong kabalen,
>
> Ing pinak yapin ing dake ning Candaba a e sukat
mamala at magmistulang
>kataya^
> iti a yang sadia rang gagamitan kng pamakilabas
kareng taung sugi o
> kagalanggalang anti mo kareng maginu, lakan, datu^,
reng mangatua, ampo
> reng nunu^.
Balamu kasi " Excuse me your Highness o Excuse me
your Royal Majesty ya " Mike?
Ing excuse me Mike atin ya pang aliwang kataya ne?
Itang balamu mawalang galang po, keng Tagalog?
Salamat.
a.aida
Ariel Malig
"Tagalog"
term. mi-mua ne naman kanyan y cong mike. oyan mibukal ne naman
daya.
:-)
ariel
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> From: aida aguas <r1...@rocketmail.com>
> To: k-l...@egroups.com
> Subject: [k-list] Re: Pinak Candaba, sadiang "Sangtabi..."
> Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 12:26 PM
>
>
> Luid Mike, Ariel, kabalen,
> ---siuala ding meangubie <siu...@mozcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > Luid Cong Ariel ampong kabalen,
> >
> > Ing pinak yapin ing dake ning Candaba a e sukat
> mamala at magmistulang
> >kataya^
> > iti a yang sadia rang gagamitan kng pamakilabas
> kareng taung sugi o
> > kagalanggalang anti mo kareng maginu, lakan, datu^,
> reng mangatua, ampo
> > reng nunu^.
>
> Balamu kasi " Excuse me your Highness o Excuse me
> your Royal Majesty ya " Mike?
>
> Ing excuse me Mike atin ya pang aliwang kataya ne?
> Itang balamu mawalang galang po, keng Tagalog?
>
> Salamat.
> a.aida
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babangitan dang anti mong example.
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Ing pinak yapin ing dake ning Candaba a e sukat mamala at magmistulang
dayat malat potang kauran. Keni manibatan ing kabiayan ding memalen karin.
Malualas yang karinan iti a mekad sasakup kng mabilug nang gabun ning
Candaba. Agpang kareng geologists, ing mabilug a Kapampangan kanita pinak
ya mu naman. Ditakditak, memala na lang memala reng pinak at iti mitipun
namu^ karin kng Candaba.
Ing katayang "sangtabi^" meyangu ya kng "pasingtabi^"...matua yang kataya^
iti a yang sadia rang gagamitan kng pamakilabas kareng taung sugi o
kagalanggalang anti mo kareng maginu, lakan, datu^, reng mangatua, ampo
reng nunu^.
Siuala ding Meangubie
At 01:18 18/01/99 -0800, Ariel Malig wrote:
> ........manyad kung dispensa. anggiang aku eke rugu balu nung nanu ing
>buri nang sabian ning "Pinak" anggiang ing "sangtabi" eke rugu
>balu. ngeni ke pa talagang dimdam.
>
>manga-lati :-(
>
>ariel
>
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>> From: Marinel Pacheco <mar...@mdsp.com>
>> To: 'k-l...@egroups.com'
>> Subject: [k-list] Re: Pinak Candaba, sadiang "Sangtabi..."
>> Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 5:22 AM
>>
>> Kabaleng Siuala:
>>
>> Ali ne mu siguru aintindiyan ning abe tamu ing katayang "pinak". Medyu
>> malalam ne ini para kareng aliua. Yaku, balu ke uling daramdaman ke kang
>
>> Apu ku. Pero deng aliua, ali ra ne gagamitan ini.
>>
>> Ita mu pu,
>> Marinel
>>
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>> From: siuala ding meangubie[SMTP:siu...@mozcom.com]
>> Reply To: k-l...@egroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 7:31 AM
>> To: k-l...@egroups.com; k-l...@egroups.com
>> Subject: [k-list] Re: Pinak Candaba, sadiang "Sangtabi..."
>>
>> Nung mamuisit ka...ume naka't batingan me iting aptas! Ala^ kang matulid
>> keti!
>>
>>
>> Siuala ding Meangubie
>>
>>
>>
>> At 18:39 16/01/99 EST, GIL...@aol.com wrote:
>> >Please translate in Tagalog or English about "Pinak" to be cemented?
>> >
>> >Gil
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Sinulat yu:
> Nung reng alang Dios nung ali pera namu sana reng mituturan oneng eganagana
> mituran potang mimwa ne ing Kalikasan.
>
> Talagang itamong Kapampangan wari sobra tamu kaganaka o misdan tamu? Reng
> dugong Aita ala rang akarapat o reng memagaral at ating akarapat ken?
> Nananu la? Ali lapa medala keng gewa ning Pinatubo???????
Dakal la e mikiburi keng maliliari pero makananu la rugung lumaban careng
capitalistang areni nung una de pa ing atian da. At e mu no man asisi nung
kapanintunan pa mu bayu "environmental activism." Aku aminado ku na e na cu
malyari maging actibista at my age and at this time. Meging actibista na cu
kanita against Marcos and the bases and today I have other priorities. Pero e
na naman buring sabian na ala cung masabal.
E na calupa Amerika mabsi la reng tau at dakal oras keng miyayaliuang
activism.
Marc
Marco D. Nepomuceno
> Abe, ing balu cung ausan dang pinak itang mababang lugal a pane buracan.
> Sangtabi naman gagamitan de ding matua para eya miapectuan ing taung
> babangitan dang anti mong example.
Yanaman ing "bana"?
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Luid Ariel, Mike,
ali kune man kokompara.....kasi ali ke aganaka ing
keng Kapampangan ania ing Tagalog namu ing sinabi
ko..uling yang aganaka ko.... malambat kuneng buring
ikutang ania pang megumpisa ya ing Santabi^ one pin
pota mimwa ya i Mike ania mikakunu ko.
patse mimua ya i Mike odi agad yang maglupang matua?
aida
---Ariel Malig <ari...@email.his.ucsf.edu> wrote:
>
> ........aro dyos me, atching aida, kinum para
mu ne naman keng
> "Tagalog"
> term. mi-mua ne naman kanyan y cong mike.
oyan mibukal ne naman
> daya.
>
> :-)
> ariel
>
> ----------
> > From: aida aguas <r1...@rocketmail.com>
> > To: k-l...@egroups.com
> > Subject: [k-list] Re: Pinak Candaba, sadiang
"Sangtabi..."
> > Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 12:26 PM
> >
> >
> > Luid Mike, Ariel, kabalen,
>
> > ---siuala ding meangubie <siu...@mozcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Luid Cong Ariel ampong kabalen,
> > >
> > > Ing pinak yapin ing dake ning Candaba a e sukat
> > mamala at magmistulang
> > >kataya^
> > > iti a yang sadia rang gagamitan kng pamakilabas
> > kareng taung sugi o
> > > kagalanggalang anti mo kareng maginu, lakan,
datu^,
> > reng mangatua, ampo
> > > reng nunu^.
> >
> > Balamu kasi " Excuse me your Highness o Excuse me
> > your Royal Majesty ya " Mike?
> >
> > Ing excuse me Mike atin ya pang aliwang kataya ne?
> > Itang balamu mawalang galang po, keng Tagalog?
> >
> > Salamat.
> > a.aida
>
>
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aida aguas
Ing bana mababang lugal lalbog patse mauran. Ing
pinak laging mabasa? Ay ali ne obat atatamnan dang
pakwan at milun patse mapali? A ing bana^ dadanum mu
o lalbog pero ali na kalupa ning pinak a talagang
lunak o lambot ing gabun balamu kamunoy pen?
Aliwa nala man deng taong bana^. Aha! taong bana nung
makanian buri nang sabian taong mababa^. Bilib na
kayu keng panga-etymologist ko? :-)
Sanu ing ustu, pakimalino namu.
aida
---"Marco D. Nepomuceno" <marc...@mozcom.com> wrote:
>
> Buldi...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Abe, ing balu cung ausan dang pinak itang
mababang lugal a pane buracan.
> > Sangtabi naman gagamitan de ding matua para eya
miapectuan ing taung
> > babangitan dang anti mong example.
>
> Yanaman ing "bana"?
>
> Marc
>
>
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Luid Marc,
O keni naman Marc, ali larin naman kikimot ustu reng
tao e.....siguru sinobra nala man kabsi!!! Ali nala
mikimut. Mitatas na murin mitatas ing panyalwan gatas
asna kamal...pero amu aliwa ini ing pisasabyan.
Mibalik tamu king Pampanga.
Wa ustu ka Marc, medyu milabas-labas na pin ing oras
mu at lalu na reta pin asabi kuna kanita matua nala,
keraklan pin mete nala.....Ngeni kasi reng
KAYANAKAN......NOKARIN KAYU......Makiramdam o manalbe
kayong SOAP OPERA????????? Menga-spoiled brats nakayu
mo? O nanu??????? Obakit balamu ala lang pakialam? O
reng maestra wari nanu ing tuturu da?????
Ay.....ini na pamu.
aida
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bana eya masyadung maburac a anti mo ing ausan dang pinak. Yana mu, Cenon
aida aguas
Reng cause-oriented groups pin ing aos da kareng
anamwan mo? ay ali la......retang mallari mong
talakad kaibat dinan daka pang budget ning gobierno
saka reng tao?
aida
---"Marco D. Nepomuceno" <marc...@mozcom.com> wrote:
>
> Luid A. Aida,
>
> Sinulat yu:
>
> > O keni naman Marc, ali larin naman kikimot ustu
reng
> > tao e.....siguru sinobra nala man kabsi!!! Ali nala
> > mikimut. Mitatas na murin mitatas ing panyalwan
gatas
> > asna kamal...pero amu aliwa ini ing pisasabyan.
> > Mibalik tamu king Pampanga.
>
> Aliua mu rin ken uling dakal la reng taung atin
dakal a pera. Agyang ela
> kikimut deng aliuang tau, atin la pa murin masabal
at iti papakit da queng
> pamamie saup kareng kikimut. Nanung claseng saup?
Pera, nanupa, para
> makakimut la reng bisang kimut.
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
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Marco D. Nepomuceno
> Aliwa nala man deng taong bana^. Aha! taong bana nung makanian buri nang
> sabian taong mababa^.
Makanyan yapin ita. Gagamitan ing "bana" careng lugar at tau. E cu balu pin
nung nanu y pangaliua na ning pinac keng bana. Balamu pin ustu ka, A. Aida,
na ing mababa ya gabun a lulbug at ing bana mababa yamung gabun. Alimbaua, y
apu atin yang gabun keni a ausan dang Bana-Gubat uling mababa ya at
matanaman.
Marc
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valentin l sibal
E mu ita. Deng aliwang businessman babie lang pera
kareng tatagal luklukan(position) para apatupad da ing
buri da. Lalunglaluna y Ex-Gov Pete Wilson sinapak ya bulsa
careng Consultants kaya kinabsi no man contrata.
Makanyan murin kareng cause-oriented groups paganan
do reng pera da.
Yamu ita,
Val
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:34:19 -0800 (PST) aida aguas
<r1...@rocketmail.com> writes:
>
>Reng cause-oriented groups pin ing aos da kareng
>anamwan mo? ay ali la......retang mallari mong
>talakad kaibat dinan daka pang budget ning gobierno
>saka reng tao?
>
>aida
>
>
>
>
>---"Marco D. Nepomuceno" <marc...@mozcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> Luid A. Aida,
>>
>> Sinulat yu:
>>
>> > O keni naman Marc, ali larin naman kikimot ustu
>reng
>> > tao e.....siguru sinobra nala man kabsi!!! Ali nala
>> > mikimut. Mitatas na murin mitatas ing panyalwan
>gatas
>> > asna kamal...pero amu aliwa ini ing pisasabyan.
>> > Mibalik tamu king Pampanga.
>>
>> Aliua mu rin ken uling dakal la reng taung atin
>dakal a pera. Agyang ela
>> kikimut deng aliuang tau, atin la pa murin masabal
>at iti papakit da queng
>> pamamie saup kareng kikimut. Nanung claseng saup?
>Pera, nanupa, para
>> makakimut la reng bisang kimut.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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aida aguas
Ua pin Val. Andat lumabas kami ketang building king
San Jose itang para kareng juvenile crimes lagi nang
sasabian ning anak ko ...ayan mommy pepagawa neng
Wilson yan. Makanian pala ne? Bawasnan da kanu ing
krimin e bisa lamong manakitan?
Retang isipan ko pala special interests groups la ali
cause-oriented.
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Marco D. Nepomuceno
Sinulat yu:
> Reng cause-oriented groups pin ing aos da kareng
> anamwan mo? ay ali la......retang mallari mong
> talakad kaibat dinan daka pang budget ning gobierno
> saka reng tao?
You lost me.
Marc
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Buldi...@aol.com wrote:
> Caluguran a Marc..to a degree (this is just my own understanding, ne?} ing
> bana eya masyadung maburac a anti mo ing ausan dang pinak.
Ustu yapin ata. In some cases e ya man babasa.
Marc
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