[k-list] atche/atchi o ateng?
Analyn Arnesen
dakal a salamat kareng sagut yu. antindiyan ku bakit dakal la deng
papadelete keng lista tamu. i belong to the younger generation, too.
masakit mamasang kapampangan nung eka sane. migkasakit ku nang umpisa.
pero ngeni masasane na ku. at saka mibabalik la deng words a akalingwan
ku keng kapampangan.
nanu pala ing ustu: atche/atchi or ating/ateng?
bakit ing atche maging atchi ya & ateng maging ating ya?
God bless
rp
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Marco D. Nepomuceno
I don't know we should be using Analyn or rp, which is your signature.
Anyway,
Analyn Arnesen wrote:
> dakal a salamat kareng sagut yu. antindiyan ku bakit dakal la deng
> papadelete keng lista tamu. i belong to the younger generation, too.
> masakit mamasang kapampangan nung eka sane. migkasakit ku nang umpisa.
> pero ngeni masasane na ku. at saka mibabalik la deng words a akalingwan
> ku keng kapampangan.
Deng eganaganag atiu keng list a ini macanyan lang megumpisa uling e da
naman tiru kekatamu ing pamamasang Kapampangan antimo ing pananuru da keng
Ingglis at Tagalug. Megumpisa tamu ngan keng isa. Itamu ngan misana ta na
mu.
> nanu pala ing ustu: atche/atchi or ating/ateng?
> bakit ing atche maging atchi ya & ateng maging ating ya?
As far as I know ing atche/atchi Chinese ya in origin, antinamurin ata ing
ating/ateng. I don't know about the other towns in the Kapampangan region,
but in Angeles atche/atchi is more commonly used than ating/ateng, which (to
my mind, anyway) is more Tagalog than Kapampangan, being the same as Ate
(which is always "Ate").
Anyway, pareu ya mu yng atche/atchi o ating/ateng. It depends on how it is
used. For example:
Atche, kasanting na ning bayu mung ambag.
Y atchi ku sinali yang bayung ambag.
Ateng, pakisali mu nakung amburgger kng Jollibee.
Y ating ku mas buri no reng amburgger kng Minit Burgger.
This reminds me of another incident where this rule is also applied to
English words:
"Keng lalam na ning tansan na ning San Miguel beer, malyaring kang manikuan
free beer."
"Talaga. Atin fre?"
Marc
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Manolo Gatbonton
Balacu mo ing "atche" itang letra caibat na ning "je","ge" o "he" bayu ing "i"
Ah, be, se, de, e, efe, je, atche,i, jota, (nanu ya ing K?) elle, eme, ene, enye,
o, pe, ere, ese, te, u, ve, (ala mu ring W) equis, y, zeta
Manolo
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> Ing "atche" gagamitan de ning manaksing la.
> +joe
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Christine
After reading these postings about atse/atsi, I came to this conclusion.
Balamu, in general, magagamit ya yata ing "atsi" patse atin yang kasunod a
noun, pronoun, verb or adjective, anything pertaining to the "atsi".
e.g. atsi ku, atching Aida, atsi Zeny, atsi mu, atsi da, atsi mi,
atsing malagu, atching teterak
And "atse" is used when it is NOT followed by any.
For example, talking directly to your sister, you say "Atse, nokarin ka munta?"
On the other hand, if you rearrange the sentence you can say, "Nokarin ka
munta, atsi?"
It really does not follow the same rule, kaya confusing pa rin.
What do you think?
Christine
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siuala ding meangubie
Aini ing alimbaua^:
Atche! Atche! Malagua^ mu! Atin daratang sundalus!
Potang ausan me attention i Atchi mu...ausan meng atche.
Mike
At 08:21 14/01/99 -0500, Dizon, Alex wrote:
>Luid Mike ampong Analyn,
>
>>Susulat taya ini "atchi"...dapot maging yang "atche!" potang ausan me mismu
>>itang tau. Bakit? Kasi e tamu tutuldu^ kng daliri^. Ing panuldu^ tamu
>>yapin ing labi^ tamu. Inia^ ing pamanagkas tamu kng katayang "atchi"
>>tutuki^ yamu kng labi^ tamu potang tuturu^ taya o ausan pansing ing taung
>>kasabi tamu... Inia^ ing "atchi" maging yang "atche!"...Malino ya?
>
> Eya ata masayadung malino kanaku ini, uling ala ku pang ikit ampong
>dimdam mamaus
> "atchi", kabang (at the same time) tutuldu ya kareng labi na.
>Atsaka obat mo kabang mamaus
> yang "Atchi", tutuldu ya pa kareng labi na?
>
>
> Alex
>
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siuala ding meangubie
I should say that was very observant. Palage ku ikua^ meng ikua^ karin.
Confusing only to no-Kapampangans. Palage ku ikua^ de munaman ding kayabe
ta keni.
Dakal salamat.
Siuala ding Meangubie
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siuala ding meangubie
Hahaha! Disnan me pa pala ing katon ne?
Mike
Siuala ding Meangubie
At 21:27 14/01/99 -0500, Manolo Gatbonton wrote:
>Luid Coyang Joe,
>
> Balacu mo ing "atche" itang letra caibat na ning "je","ge" o "he"
bayu ing "i"
>
> Ah, be, se, de, e, efe, je, atche,i, jota, (nanu ya ing K?) elle, eme,
ene, enye,
>o, pe, ere, ese, te, u, ve, (ala mu ring W) equis, y, zeta
>
>Manolo
>atin mung ditac a panaun paramakiambula
>
>
>
>SEP...@pacbell.net wrote:
>
>> Ing "atche" gagamitan de ning manaksing la.
>> +joe
>>
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aida aguas
Luid Christine,
Masanting la reng alimbawa mu ampong pamamalino.
Ing atchi pin maging atching ya....tatayid ya ing
.."ng" anti mong conjunction o panayid ne? Bangkanita
itayid ya keng lagyu o noun. Alimbawa Atching
Christine, nung Atchi Christine ya mu ali ya
masanting daramdaman ania ing " euphony " metong ya
rin tutukian a balamu rule ne ? Oneng nung ali ka pin
Kapampangan ali me agad akua ini.
Just my humble opinion.
aida
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Manolo Gatbonton
Ua naman, tiru nacu atang Ima cu, ampo y Apu cung Felix :-))), ing e cu mu
icuang abalu ing "solfeo" (not sure on spelling)
siuala ding meangubie wrote:
> Luid Cong Manny,
>
> Hahaha! Disnan me pa pala ing katon ne?
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Manolo Gatbonton
Meg pusung cu mu, ing "atche" sinabi cu ia pin ing letter H,. Marayu yang marayu king
Atche/Atchi inumpisan yu. Nung wari, mag sasamais cu mu
Manolo
SEP...@pacbell.net wrote:
> Luid Cong Manolo,
> Lalu kung mewala queng explanasion mu-linawan mune abe.
> +Joe
>
> Manolo Gatbonton wrote:
>
> > Luid Coyang Joe,
> >
> > Balacu mo ing "atche" itang letra caibat na ning "je","ge" o "he" bayu ing "i"
> >
> > Ah, be, se, de, e, efe, je, atche,i, jota, (nanu ya ing K?) elle, eme, ene, enye,
> > o, pe, ere, ese, te, u, ve, (ala mu ring W) equis, y, zeta
> >
> > Manolo
> > atin mung ditac a panaun paramakiambula
> >
> > SEP...@pacbell.net wrote:
> >
> > > Ing "atche" gagamitan de ning manaksing la.
> > > +joe
> > >
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Luid Cong Manolo,
maposung-posung kapala, ngeni balu kuna. malwat kuneng dimdam ing salitan ian
"posung."
Manolo Gatbonton wrote:
> Luid Coyang Joe,
>
> Meg pusung cu mu, ing "atche" sinabi cu ia pin ing letter H,. Marayu yang marayu king
> Atche/Atchi inumpisan yu. Nung wari, mag sasamais cu mu
>
> Manolo
>
> SEP...@pacbell.net wrote:
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