[k-list] Re: deletion from k-list
Ariel Malig
you might want to reconsider and stay on. it's important that the younger
generation should be exposed to and made aware of our K culture and its
preservation.
you can't please all the people all the time in any group. you'll get
criticized. some will oppose your ideas. some will agree with you.
some will not. but don't be too quick to
quit. talagang mung makanian. stay on and start learning all kinds
of ideas and opinions about anything especially about our K culture.
stay and learn and WE will also learn from you.
think about it.
ariel
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Subject: [k-list] deletion from k-list
Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 5:47 PM
Cabalen,
Paki-lako yu na ku pu king k-list group. Please delete me from the
k-list group.
I have been receiving a lot of criticisms from the (offensive and
trash)emails I am
sharing. Just to remind you that those emails are likewise forwarded to
me and
I shared it with you with no intended malice and sarcasm.
Maybe, Mr. Dave Nepomuceno is right. The younger Gen-X does not enjoy
group
discussion regarding history, lineage, genealogy etc... Sadly, I belong
to that generation.
Likewise, we cannot please you with our own brand of discussions and
interests..
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aida aguas
Luid Lan,
Ali ka mamako, ali mu kami lalakuan, ali me lalakuan
ing Klist uling malagad mu ing mika-"chance" a
milapit at makasaop keng kekatamong Indung Tibuan.
Ali me rugu ugse ing pagkakataon aini.
Baluko aliwa naman ikang ginawa karetang Are You, Are
You.. Ali ka mimimwa.
aida
---LAN <rolan...@ssmp.head.semic.sanyo.co.jp> wrote:
>
>
> Cabalen,
>
> Paki-lako yu na ku pu king k-list group. Please
delete me from the k-list group.
> I have been receiving a lot of criticisms from
the (offensive and trash)emails I am
> sharing. Just to remind you that those emails
are likewise forwarded to me and
> I shared it with you with no intended malice
and sarcasm.
>
> Maybe, Mr. Dave Nepomuceno is right. The
younger Gen-X does not enjoy group
> discussion regarding history, lineage,
genealogy etc... Sadly, I belong to that generation.
> Likewise, we cannot please you with our own
brand of discussions and interests..
>
> Salamat pu king email group slot na biniye ku
kanaku.
>
>
> Roland Pangilinan
>
>
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Luid Marc,
hmmmmm did i sound like begging them.....that was
not my intention ........ my point was that it was a
previlege given them...at the same time an
opportunity to contribute something to and learn from
the Kapampangan Nation ... they must not let it
go...if they do it is their loss.
aida
---"Marco D. Nepomuceno" <marc...@mozcom.com> wrote:
>
> Luid A. Aida,
>
> > Ali ka mamako, ali mu kami lalakuan, ali me
lalakuan
> > ing Klist uling malagad mu ing mika-"chance" a
> > milapit at makasaop keng kekatamong Indung Tibuan.
> > Ali me rugu ugse ing pagkakataon aini.
>
> In the same manner that we don't beg current
k-listers who don't participate (the
> lurkers) to participate in the discussions, I don't
think we should beg anyone to stay
> if they're beng on leaving. Don't you agree?
>
> Marc
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Pepadala kune nandin ing kanta......obat mewala
ya....ing subject na Eka Mamako--A Song
aida
---SEP...@pacbell.net wrote:
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> Atching Aida,
> Dapat ing sinulat mu kang Lan ini: "Eka mamako, emu
kami lalakwan, eka tatangis, mibalik
> ku naman. Nanu ne ing tutuki? Anyone?
> +Joe
>
> aida aguas wrote:
>
> > Luid Lan,
> >
> > Ali ka mamako, ali mu kami lalakuan, ali me
lalakuan
> > ing Klist uling malagad mu ing mika-"chance" a
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> Ali ka mamako, ali mu kami lalakuan, ali me lalakuan
> ing Klist uling malagad mu ing mika-"chance" a
> milapit at makasaop keng kekatamong Indung Tibuan.
> Ali me rugu ugse ing pagkakataon aini.
In the same manner that we don't beg current k-listers who don't participate (the
lurkers) to participate in the discussions, I don't think we should beg anyone to stay
if they're beng on leaving. Don't you agree?
Marc
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Dapat ing sinulat mu kang Lan ini: "Eka mamako, emu kami lalakwan, eka tatangis, mibalik
ku naman. Nanu ne ing tutuki? Anyone?
+Joe
aida aguas wrote:
> Luid Lan,
>
> Ali ka mamako, ali mu kami lalakuan, ali me lalakuan
> ing Klist uling malagad mu ing mika-"chance" a
> milapit at makasaop keng kekatamong Indung Tibuan.
> Ali me rugu ugse ing pagkakataon aini.
>
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I don't think Atching Aida is "begging." She encouraging--Kapampangan way. Ali mu?
+Joe
Marco D. Nepomuceno wrote:
> Luid A. Aida,
>
> > Ali ka mamako, ali mu kami lalakuan, ali me lalakuan
> > ing Klist uling malagad mu ing mika-"chance" a
> > milapit at makasaop keng kekatamong Indung Tibuan.
> > Ali me rugu ugse ing pagkakataon aini.
>
> In the same manner that we don't beg current k-listers who don't participate (the
> lurkers) to participate in the discussions, I don't think we should beg anyone to stay
> if they're beng on leaving. Don't you agree?
>
> Marc
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Marco D. Nepomuceno
> hmmmmm did i sound like begging them.....that was
> not my intention ........
It sounds like begging to me when someone says "ali mu kami lalakuan."
> my point was that it was a previlege given them...at the same time an
> opportunity to contribute something to and learn from
> the Kapampangan Nation ...
Good point.
> they must not let it
> go...if they do it is their loss.
It doesn't sound like it's their loss if we have to beg them not leave us;
it sounds like a spouse who's being abandoned by the other half of the
couple.
Marco D. Nepomuceno
> Cong Marc
> I don't think Atching Aida is "begging." She encouraging--Kapampangan way. Ali mu?
I still think it's begging, not encouraging. With all due respect, Pastor Joe, what
"Kapampangan way" do you mean?
Marco D. Nepomuceno
You wrote:
> Lambing Cong Mark, lambing.
Ing pamaglambing is not a uniquely "Kapampangan way"; it is universal. And this is
probably where the problem lies: e ka malyaring maglambing in cyberspace because it
requires a certain change in intonation.
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lalak'wan, macanyan dapat sabyan
peru potang babasan ke, uling eki sasadiang babasan ing punto maging
la'lak'wan. Atsaka maging "long a" la. Malilyari kekayu ini?
+joe
Marco D. Nepomuceno wrote:
> Luid A. Aida,
>
> > hmmmmm did i sound like begging them.....that was
> > not my intention ........
>
> It sounds like begging to me when someone says "ali mu kami lalakuan."
>
> > my point was that it was a previlege given them...at the same time an
> > opportunity to contribute something to and learn from
> > the Kapampangan Nation ...
>
> Good point.
>
> > they must not let it
> > go...if they do it is their loss.
>
> It doesn't sound like it's their loss if we have to beg them not leave us;
> it sounds like a spouse who's being abandoned by the other half of the
> couple.
>
> Marc
>
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+Joe
Marco D. Nepomuceno wrote:
> Hi Pastor Joe,
>
> > Cong Marc
> > I don't think Atching Aida is "begging." She encouraging--Kapampangan way. Ali mu?
>
> I still think it's begging, not encouraging. With all due respect, Pastor Joe, what
> "Kapampangan way" do you mean?
>
SEP...@pacbell.net
"e ka malyaring maglambing in cyberspace because it
requires a certain change in intonation."
Papalyaring e lambing ketang direct object ng atchi, peru ita mung kapampangan a
mekibalu keng panugali tamu, eta ne kailangan ing "intonation." Ing tutu keng choice
of words mu balu tana ing maliliyari. Atsaka ewari "silence" speaks louder than words.
Salamat coy,
+Joe
Marco D. Nepomuceno wrote:
> Luid Pastor Joe,
>
> You wrote:
>
> > Lambing Cong Mark, lambing.
>
> Ing pamaglambing is not a uniquely "Kapampangan way"; it is universal. And this is
> probably where the problem lies: e ka malyaring maglambing in cyberspace because it
> requires a certain change in intonation.
>
> Marc
>
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Luid Roland,
Salamat keng kekang pakibat. Eka migaganaca aliwa ika
ing karelang tutulduan nune itang sulat mung dinake kekami.
Balu mi na aliwa ika ing sinulat kanita at dinake miya mu.
Keni K-aptas tutulid da ing bukut a panlawe da reng dayu
kekatamu at ing pamaglaganas da(stereo-typing) keng
pangatau tamu.
Pasalamatan daka uling peparala me keti nung ali
kalat-kalat ya kareng aptas bala ra deng aliwa ustu ya.
Val
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>To: k-l...@egroups.com
>Subject: [k-list] deletion from k-list
>Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 5:47 PM
>
>
> Cabalen,
>
> Paki-lako yu na ku pu king k-list group. Please delete me from the
>k-list group.
> I have been receiving a lot of criticisms from the (offensive and
>trash)emails I am
> sharing. Just to remind you that those emails are likewise
>forwarded to
>me and
> I shared it with you with no intended malice and sarcasm.
>
> Maybe, Mr. Dave Nepomuceno is right. The younger Gen-X does not
>enjoy
>group
> discussion regarding history, lineage, genealogy etc... Sadly, I
>belong
>to that generation.
> Likewise, we cannot please you with our own brand of discussions
>and
>interests..
>
> Salamat pu king email group slot na biniye ku kanaku.
>
>
> Roland Pangilinan
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aida aguas
Lawen yu ne i Val, talagang kabiasnan nana keng
Kapampangan. Salamat Val kening bayu kong
vocabulario...pamaglaganas. Makanian ya pala ing
stereo-typing ne?
Lan, lotdien.....lumutu karin pusad keni KList! Akit
muman. Pero aburi mu.
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aida aguas
Ali malilyari kaku kasi anak ko pa, ika kasi matua
naka.....matua naka Amerika. :-)
a.aida
---SEP...@pacbell.net wrote:
>
> "lalakwan"
> lalak'wan, macanyan dapat sabyan
> peru potang babasan ke, uling eki sasadiang babasan
ing punto maging
> la'lak'wan. Atsaka maging "long a" la. Malilyari
kekayu ini?
> +joe
>
> Marco D. Nepomuceno wrote:
>
> > Luid A. Aida,
> >
> > > hmmmmm did i sound like begging them.....that
was
> > > not my intention ........
> >
> > It sounds like begging to me when someone says
"ali mu kami lalakuan."
> >
> > > my point was that it was a previlege given
them...at the same time an
> > > opportunity to contribute something to and
learn from
> > > the Kapampangan Nation ...
> >
> > Good point.
> >
> > > they must not let it
> > > go...if they do it is their loss.
> >
> > It doesn't sound like it's their loss if we have
to beg them not leave us;
> > it sounds like a spouse who's being abandoned by
the other half of the
> > couple.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
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Why does it sound like begging ? Is it because it is
said in Kapampangan?????????
If it is said in English by special people it will
sound more what?????????????
Did I sound like a beggar because I was not on
denial????????????
Aida
---"Marco D. Nepomuceno" <marc...@mozcom.com> wrote:
>
> Luid A. Aida,
>
> > hmmmmm did i sound like begging them.....that was
> > not my intention ........
>
> It sounds like begging to me when someone says "ali
mu kami lalakuan."
>
> > my point was that it was a previlege given
them...at the same time an
> > opportunity to contribute something to and learn
from
> > the Kapampangan Nation ...
>
> Good point.
>
> > they must not let it
> > go...if they do it is their loss.
>
> It doesn't sound like it's their loss if we have to
beg them not leave us;
> it sounds like a spouse who's being abandoned by
the other half of the
> couple.
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
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You wrote:
> "lalakwan"
> lalak'wan, macanyan dapat sabyan
> peru potang babasan ke, uling eki sasadiang babasan ing punto maging
> la'lak'wan. Atsaka maging "long a" la. Malilyari kekayu ini?
I don't know what you mean because "lalakuan" or "lalakwan" has only one
meaning, and thus accent marks are not needed for a native speaker. This is in
contrast to the word "masakit", which can mean difficult, painful, or sick,
depending on where the accent marks are.
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aida aguas
Luid Pastor Joe,
Salamat keng kekang pamamalino. Tutu ing sasabian mu.
Baluku itamong Kapampangan mikakaintindi tamu. Anti
ku mo sanang sasaop uling apansinan kong balamu
panamdaman da reng aliwa itang pamag-delete o dakal a
pamaglako. Balamu "exodus". Ati nang managkas, atin
nang mamalagyong mulala, atin nang
pa-delete dala king yatu. Maski ako man kunpormi kong
ali masanting ing popost dapa ing pamanlako ra. Aisip
ko ing masanting a salita, itang ating pamag-galang,
lugud at ali ko lunto masakit a lub.
King bage ala naman mewala kaku at ala kong
apanasakit
kapanamdaman ( sana uling ali nako man megsisti ) Nung
ikua mong balamu mamalimos ing pamagsalita ko Marc,
pagkalungkutan ko pero keka na problema ita.
Kinompara mepa keng asawang malalakuan. Reng Indang
magmakalunos? Map namu ngeni atin nang Indang sasabing
" kalual mu keng pasbol ayan, ali naka magbalik
kapilan man " .
Aida
---SEP...@pacbell.net wrote:
>
> Cong Marc wrote:
> "e ka malyaring maglambing in cyberspace because it
> requires a certain change in intonation."
> Coy,
> Papalyaring e lambing ketang direct object ng
atchi, peru ita mung kapampangan a
> mekibalu keng panugali tamu, eta ne kailangan ing
"intonation." Ing tutu keng choice
> of words mu balu tana ing maliliyari. Atsaka ewari
"silence" speaks louder than words.
> Salamat coy,
> +Joe
>
> Marco D. Nepomuceno wrote:
>
> > Luid Pastor Joe,
> >
> > You wrote:
> >
> > > Lambing Cong Mark, lambing.
> >
> > Ing pamaglambing is not a uniquely "Kapampangan
way"; it is universal. And this is
> > probably where the problem lies: e ka malyaring
maglambing in cyberspace because it
> > requires a certain change in intonation.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
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At 06:44 AM 1/14/99 +0800, you wrote:
>Luid A. Aida,
>
>> hmmmmm did i sound like begging them.....that was
>> not my intention ........
>
>It sounds like begging to me when someone says "ali mu kami lalakuan."
>
>> my point was that it was a previlege given them...at the same time an
>> opportunity to contribute something to and learn from
>> the Kapampangan Nation ...
>
>Good point.
>
>> they must not let it
>> go...if they do it is their loss.
>
>It doesn't sound like it's their loss if we have to beg them not leave us;
>it sounds like a spouse who's being abandoned by the other half of the
>couple.
>
Marco D. Nepomuceno
> Why does it sound like begging ? Is it because it is
> said in Kapampangan?????????
I never said that.
> If it is said in English by special people it will
> sound more what?????????????
I never said that either.
> Did I sound like a beggar because I was not on
> denial????????????
I don't know what you mean.
Marc
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You misunderstod me. What I mean is this: Because of lack of practice pronouncing
K words, I noticed myself placing the accent at the wrong syllable. Example: if
you read "Lalakwan" for the first in a long time, I may pronounce it "la'lak'wan
instead of lalak'wan. Of course the meaning of the word never changes.
+Joe
Marco D. Nepomuceno wrote:
> Luid Pastor,
>
> You wrote:
>
> > "lalakwan"
> > lalak'wan, macanyan dapat sabyan
> > peru potang babasan ke, uling eki sasadiang babasan ing punto maging
> > la'lak'wan. Atsaka maging "long a" la. Malilyari kekayu ini?
>
> I don't know what you mean because "lalakuan" or "lalakwan" has only one
> meaning, and thus accent marks are not needed for a native speaker. This is in
> contrast to the word "masakit", which can mean difficult, painful, or sick,
> depending on where the accent marks are.
>
> Marc
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Marco D. Nepomuceno
SEP...@pacbell.net wrote:
> Cong Marc,
> You misunderstod me.
That's the problem with email; it always generates a lot misunderstanding because the
written word can always be different from the spoken word.
Marc
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SEP...@pacbell.net
written word can always be different from the spoken word.
Marc
Cong Marc,
I respect and disagree with your understanding--not "always.". I wish though that you
would address the real issue. Again, is it normal to place the wrong accent at the wrong
syllable when pronouncing K words because of lack of practice? Yapin ing pisasabian
ini. Salamat Abe.
+JOe
Marco D. Nepomuceno wrote:
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Marco D. Nepomuceno
> Again, is it normal to place the wrong accent at the wrong syllable when pronouncing K
> words because of lack of practice?
Ua. Or because there are no marks on the words being read and the context is not readily
discernible.
Marc
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