ALK: Bobotu
Marco D. Nepomuceno
Luid Cong Andro,
Andro Camiling wrote:
> "Bobotu" is also called "tamales" by some Kapampangan.
"Bobotu'k" is the word that Balam Tayag found in an Indonesian dictionary. Balam
thinks that the "k" is silent or maybe is just there to indicate a glottal stop.
The Indonesian dictionary defines "bobotu'k" as a delicacy wrapped in banana
leaf, etc... Sayang I don't have the dictionary anymore.
Since "tamales" is a Spanish word and our "tamales" really looks nothing like the
Spanish or Mexican "tamales," "bobotu" apparently is our original word for
"tamales."
more below ...
> Maniaman ya ini
> keng amusal at kaibat minum kang gatas a damulag o kaya kape o tsuculati
> king batirul. Ing balu ku ing sangkap na giniling abias a mabasa, pigang
> ngungut, ditak a giling ginisang babi at aliwa pang sangkap at ibalut
> dang bulung sagin at italing tiban at kaibat na nita pabukal dala king
> kawa o balanga antimo neng maglaga kang sagiwang mais miki balat pa.
> Deng tau Cabalantian, Bacolor maniaman lang gawang bobotu at mamun.
Wapin. In fact anyang papunta kami Menila icami di Balam, A. Nancy, Mike, at y
Hermie Pineda (a member of Timauang Gamat), seli mi yang bobotu at suman y Apung
Pitang (Mrs. Soriano). Ytang mag-tinda quetang intersection na ning MacArthus
Highway at Olongapo-Gapan Road taga Cabalantian ya, although of course e ne
manuknangan carin uling limbug ne ing carelang barrio. Sabi na bayo ne ytang
mag-tinda qng arap casino qng Balibago; aus da reng tau caya--"Boy Tamales."
Only in the Philippines can you call somebody like that. Anyway, y Boy Tamales
bala carin ya macatucnang quetang puesto na; it seems to me he's there 24 hours a
day. Dacal ne siguru suki.
more below
> On another issue, is it correct to write that the defunct Clark Air Base
> of the USA is located in Angeles City? Or shall I say a portion of the
> defunct Clark Air Base of the USA is located in Angeles City?
It's kinda complicated at ika namung bala what to do about this.
Fort Stotsenberg was established in Angeles, which was then a town. Naturally,
from that time on milako ne jurisdiction ing Angeles over that area. Later the
area was expanded and the U.S. Military Reservation was created to include parts
of (if I'm not mistaken) Porac, Mabalacat, and Bamban, Tarlac, but none of these
entities have any jurisdiction over any of their areas inside the Clark Special
Economic Zone. The address of the CDC is indicated as Clark Field, Pampanga. What
I'm wondering about is this: supposing there is an office located on the Tarlac
part of the CSEZ. Is the address then going to be Clark Field, Tarlac?
Anyway, here's what the brochure of the Clark Special Economic Zone says:
The Clark Special Economic Zone (CSEZ) spans a total land area of 33,653 hectares
within the Philippine provinces of Pampanga and Tarlac, a strategic location
within Central Luzon.
I guess that's really no help. Sorry.
Marc
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Andro Camiling
At 09:36 AM 9/18/98 +0800, Marco D. Nepomuceno wrote:
>Luid Cong Andro,
>The Indonesian dictionary defines "bobotu'k" as a delicacy wrapped in banana
>leaf, etc... Sayang I don't have the dictionary anymore.
>Since "tamales" is a Spanish word and our "tamales" really looks nothing
like >the Spanish or Mexican "tamales," "bobotu" apparently is our original
word for
>"tamales."
The word "Tamale (s)" is now an English word listed in Webster's College
Dictionary which means "Minced and seasoned meat packed in cornmeal dough,
wrapped in corn husks, and steamed.
Perhaps the only similarity between a Mexican Tamale and Bobotu is the
steaming process.
>Wapin. In fact anyang papunta kami Menila icami di Balam, A. Nancy, Mike,
at y
>Hermie Pineda (a member of Timauang Gamat), seli mi yang bobotu at suman y
>Apung Pitang (Mrs. Soriano). Ytang mag-tinda quetang intersection na ning
>MacArthus Highway at Olongapo-Gapan Road taga Cabalantian ya, although of
>course e ne manuknangan carin uling limbug ne ing carelang barrio. Sabi na
>bayo ne ytang mag-tinda qng arap casino qng Balibago; aus da reng tau
caya--"Boy Tamales."
Ninu i Hermie Pineda at nanu ya ing Timauang Gamat?
>Only in the Philippines can you call somebody like that. Anyway, y Boy
Tamales
>bala carin ya macatucnang quetang puesto na; it seems to me he's there 24
hours a day. Dacal ne siguru suki.
Americans are wondering why many Pinoys or Pinays are nicknamed "Boy" or
"Baby" and retain those nicknames forever. If a question like that is
directed to me
I say it's just a way of naming people just like some Americans are named when
they are born like Crazy Horse, Running Bull, Singing Bird, Fucking Dog, etc.
>It's kinda complicated at ika namung bala what to do about this.
>
>Fort Stotsenberg was established in Angeles, which was then a town.
Naturally,
>from that time on milako ne jurisdiction ing Angeles over that area. Later
the
>area was expanded and the U.S. Military Reservation was created to include
>parts of (if I'm not mistaken) Porac, Mabalacat, and Bamban, Tarlac, but
none >of these entities have any jurisdiction over any of their areas
inside the >Clark Special Economic Zone. The address of the CDC is
indicated as Clark >Field, Pampanga. What I'm wondering about is this:
supposing there is an >office located on the Tarlac part of the CSEZ. Is
the address then going to be >Clark Field, Tarlac?
>Anyway, here's what the brochure of the Clark Special Economic Zone says:
>The Clark Special Economic Zone (CSEZ) spans a total land area of 33,653
hectares within the Philippine provinces of Pampanga and Tarlac, a
strategic location within Central Luzon.
>I guess that's really no help. Sorry.
>Marc
Yes, you're right I am more confused now.
BTW, what is happening now at CSEZ? I read an article in the Asian
Journal a few days ago that an investigation is being conducted now
why some provincial and municipal executives are provided with
housing units at CSEZ. According to the article the governor has
three units and the mayors of Angeles, Mabalacat and Porac have one
unit each.
Thanks and best regards.
Andro
ALAN M RAMOS
Luid Cabalen;
Kumusta kayu ngan, panupaya yu ing malambat kung e meki ambula king
mayumung pamakisabi keni. Lalu na keka A. Aida...ditak mung sigalut keni
at linipas na mu rin.
Ustu rugung asasambitla yu la deng bototu...akmulan ku na ing wawa ku't
siguk-siguk. Balu yu siguru king baryu Cabalantian karin ku mibait at
meragul...ngeni pin ala ne. Ding puto seco lalu ku lang agaganaka mu
naman...A. Aida, mikit ka ta siguru bandang tutuking Domingo nung
magsilbi ka, magbanda ku San Jose. Atin datang bukas mig order kung puto
seco.
Muli ku Pilipinas keng mapupus ya ing tutuking bulan, tagunan ku ing DAUN
Pilipinas. Sana atin kung akit karin matenakan a kayabe Pampanga.
Pastor Joe, kumusta pu ing pamanuli yu?
Yanapa
Alan
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ALAN M RAMOS
Luid Cabalens;
Ing aisip ku mu, variation ya ing bobotu king mexican tamale. Abias,
imbis na mais, bulung saging ing ginamit da, imbis na bulung mais. At
dininan de pang tapung. Pero ing pamaglutu pareu ya mu. Manyaman ya nung
atin yang arobung babi at ebun malutu. Kailangan matigik ya pangatali,
gagamitan da tiban, at makapal ya balut bulung.
Yanapa;
Cong Alan
Marco D. Nepomuceno
Luid Alan,
ALAN M RAMOS wrote:
> Ing aisip ku mu, variation ya ing bobotu king mexican tamale.[snip]
If you say that the word "tamale" was used by the Spaniards to refer to the
delicacy known as "bobotu," I would agree with you. Otherwise, I tend to think
that the Indonesian origin of the word "bobotu" indicates that this is an
original delicacy not copied from the Mexican tamale. IMHO, the similarities
that were cited, including the process of cooking, are so universal that no
single ethnic group can claim to have invented them; or are so complicated and
technologically advanced that only a few ethnic groups could have invented them
and later passed on the process.
Thanks for reading.
Marc
Marco D. Nepomuceno
Luid Cong Andro,
> BTW, what is happening now at CSEZ? I read an article in the Asian
> Journal a few days ago that an investigation is being conducted now
> why some provincial and municipal executives are provided with
> housing units at CSEZ. According to the article the governor has
> three units and the mayors of Angeles, Mabalacat and Porac have one
> unit each.
According to Sun Star Clark, aside from Gov. Lito Lapid, the following public
officials have been granted staff housing priveleges at Clark:
Mayor Marino Morales of Mabalacat
Mayor Carmelo Lazatin of Angeles
Mayor Hermes Frias of Capas
Mayor Florante Cojuangco of Bamban
ex-Mayor Edgardo Pamintuan of Angeles
ex-Mayor Roy David of Porac
Rep. Oscar Rodriguez of Pampanga
Vice-Governor Herminio Aquino of Tarlac
Re the latest on the Colayco-Lapid tiff: Colayco was said to have remarked that
Lito Lapid is not only an action star but also a dramatic star.