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heron stone

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Sep 14, 2008, 3:16:36 PM9/14/08
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gendo - a way of language

eliminating linguistic obstacles to waking up
from the millennia-old hallucination
humans call "reality"

.you've been hypnotized... hijacked by your own
language machine
.you believe that the voice in your head is who/what
you really are... your deep self
.you live in the illusion that you actually know
what reality REALLY is

.you don't

.i don't

.nobody knows
.anyone who claims he does is a liar or a fool

.it only takes a moment to wake up

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.join me in a conversation at:
http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/25018

every day (except tuesdays or thursdays)
from 15:30-17:30, california time


heron

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arkestra

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Sep 17, 2008, 5:08:14 PM9/17/08
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On Sep 14, 1:16 pm, heron stone <hero...@gendo.net> wrote:
>          gendo - a way of language
>
> eliminating linguistic obstacles to waking up
>     from the millennia-old hallucination
>            humans call "reality"
>
> .you've been hypnotized... hijacked by your own
>     language machine
> .you believe that the voice in your head is who/what
>     you really are... your deep self
> .you live in the illusion that you actually know
>     what reality REALLY is

I can't quite place where I've heard this before, but it might be
batman, or fightclub, or someother million dollar movie. My apologies
if it isn't.

But on to it's validity. Firstly, you must realize that the stance
you are taking is unattackable. This is not because it is true, but
because any reasoning against it necessarily uses language to make its
point. I cannot reason against a statement without words.

Conversely, your statement it is equally untenable. The same language
that is used to attack, and suppose on ANY level, is that which you
are pushing aside. I would be surprised if you could tell me what you
mean without using words.

If you want to be a monkey, free of the burden of language, go ahead.
You won't be around for long in a world where food cannot be gathered
freely, and there are rules written down that you must follow.

Rick Harrison

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Sep 17, 2008, 10:30:23 PM9/17/08
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In article <heronDO-21BB88...@news-40.giganews.com>, heron
stone <her...@gendo.net> wrote:

> .you live in the illusion that you actually know
> what reality REALLY is
>
> .you don't
>
> .i don't

In the sentences above, you _are_ claiming to know what reality really
is, i.e. unknowable. Furthermore you are claiming to know what others
know or don't know, which is offensive.

heron stone

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Sep 18, 2008, 4:19:48 PM9/18/08
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In article <170920082230238029%_nick...@harrison.net>,
Rick Harrison <_nick...@harrison.net> wrote:

.the statement was written to provoke interest and
attract some people to a discussion
.it's not easy to sum up 40 years of research in
100 words
.you may find it offensive... but that doesn't make
it false

heron stone

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Sep 18, 2008, 4:21:58 PM9/18/08
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In article
<67952431-ad71-4d32...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
arkestra <arke...@gmail.com> wrote:

.i agree with your points
.it's not easy to sum up 40 years of reseach in
100 words
.the words were written to attract people too a
discussion... to be provocative
.please join me some time and we'll talk about it

arkestra

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Sep 18, 2008, 5:25:05 PM9/18/08
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On Sep 18, 2:21 pm, heron stone <hero...@gendo.net> wrote:

> .please join me some time and we'll talk about it

Is there some reason discussion here is not sufficient -- this is my
preferred forum.

heron stone

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Sep 18, 2008, 9:11:31 PM9/18/08
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In article
<768065a7-34e2-49e0...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
arkestra <arke...@gmail.com> wrote:

.yes... i prefer actually talking with people
.it's more fun for me... and the spontaneity
often forces me to think in ways i wouldn't
otherwise

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