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Re: Sir = cheese (caseus); sour = kiseo (sour)

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anal...@hotmail.com

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Apr 23, 2008, 7:19:01 PM4/23/08
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On Apr 23, 11:41 am, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Dušan Vukotić wrote:
> > On Apr 22, 7:06 pm, Harlan Messinger
> > <hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net>
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> >>> Are you able to grasp the relation between Dutch zamelen (collect) and
> >>> English collect on one side and the relation of both of these words to
> >>> Slavic zemlja (earth) and Latin cumulus/humus?
>
> >> Are you able to grasp that "are you able to grasp", for the umpteenth
> >> time, doesn't prove anything? Are you able to grasp that one more time
> >> you are making a claim without proof?
>
> > My question is simple. There are three possibilities: 1) you can see
> > that zamelen and collect are related
>
> If it were just a matter of "seeing" it, then what would we need you
> for, in your mind? You're claiming it, we *don't* see it--or even if we
> do "see" it, we're aware that not everything that *looks* related *is*
> related, and we endlessly await from you a proof.
>
> > 2) you can see that zamelen and
> > collect are unrelated 3) you can not determine whether the words
> > zamelen and collect are related or unrelated.
>
> Stop playing games and prove whatever it is you're claiming to be true.

As long as we are debating roots going back as far back as the
putative times when PIE was spoken - it seems to me that the standard
model, Dusan's model and Gnaedinger's model are only competing
theories with no conceivable (with presently available evidence) way
of proof or disproof.

The standard model has been worked on for centuries and has the weight
of scholarship behind it but that means exactly that - that it is
accepted by most linguistics scholars.

If only Dusan and/or Gnaedinger would try to derive proto-romance from
the descended Romance languages using their respective theories - then
their derived roots can actually be compared against the predictions
of the standard model.

Until then we'll only see inconclusive bickering.

benl...@ihug.co.nz

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Apr 23, 2008, 7:44:22 PM4/23/08
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On Apr 24, 11:19 am, analys...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 23, 11:41 am, Harlan Messinger
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> <hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:

Apparently you still have no idea what you are talking about.

Dušan Vukotić

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Apr 25, 2008, 4:49:56 PM4/25/08
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Ross, you better stay out of the discussion; this is too complicated
for your retarded brain!

DV


benl...@ihug.co.nz

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Apr 25, 2008, 7:38:57 PM4/25/08
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Sure, I'm happy to be just a spectator at the big Kook-Off, as
Magdaloonian battles it out with Vu-Du and the Standard Model
(represented by analys...;-D). Better than anything on TV right now.

Ross Clark

Dušan Vukotić

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Apr 25, 2008, 9:14:40 PM4/25/08
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On Apr 26, 1:38 am, "benli...@ihug.co.nz" <benli...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

> On Apr 26, 8:49 am, Duðan Vukotiã <dusan.vuko...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 24, 1:44 am, "benli...@ihug.co.nz" <benli...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 24, 11:19 am, analys...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> > > > On Apr 23, 11:41 am, Harlan Messinger
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> > > > <hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ross Clark-

Ok then, enjoy it..... :-)

DV

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