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dun...@yahoo.com

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Mar 14, 2006, 1:09:20 AM3/14/06
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I've been on a break of sorts from programming recently, so I apologize
if I haven't worked on HLA Adventure in awhile. I am interested in
finishing off the 'core' game itself and closing off my portion of the
development phase to other programmers.

HLA Adventure is basically complete as-is. I am about 95% complete with
the game engine and approximately 85-90% complete with the rooms. I
also added in the ability to examine some of the objects described in
each room, although this is (admittedly) not yet fully implemented in
all rooms (249+).

If there are other fantasy elements others wish to add into HLA
Adventure -- i.e. their own version of what constitutes a fantasy
landscape, etc. -- feel free to look at the source code, break it down
and add to the game in whatever capacity is desired.

I would actually encourage HLA programmers to rewrite major portions of
the game engine and storyline as they see fit, incorporating new ideas
and design techniques into the 'core' game. In fact, I would love to
see new versions of HLA Adventure set on other worlds and other
dimensions with new objects, quests, monsters and items.

If you have any questions about HLA Adventure, please e-mail me at:

dun...@yahoo.com

The website for HLA Adventure can always be found at:

http://members.tripod.com/~panks/hlaadv.html

HLA Adventure should compile fine with version 1.49 (or above) of Randy
Hyde's fantastic HLA compiler.

Thanks,

Paul

dun...@yahoo.com

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dun...@yahoo.com

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dun...@yahoo.com

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Google error hiccup. Sorry for the triple post.

Paul

Betov

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Mar 14, 2006, 7:48:27 AM3/14/06
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dun...@yahoo.com écrivait news:1142315333.482339.82000
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> HLA Adventure should compile fine with version 1.49 (or above) of Randy
> Hyde's fantastic HLA compiler.

Poor pathetic little nerd...


Betov.

< http://rosasm.org >

ldb

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Mar 14, 2006, 10:02:50 AM3/14/06
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> Poor pathetic little nerd...

Why are you so belligerent? Are we not all adults here?

Betov

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Mar 14, 2006, 10:11:59 AM3/14/06
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>> Poor pathetic little nerd...
>
> Why are you so belligerent?

Because i like it. I am an old hungry dog, you know...

:)

> Are we not all adults here?

_I_ am adult in the acception of "aged", but, mind
you, i did all my best, along all my life, to remain
a young-nerd, and i pretty well succeeded to remain
a nerd...

:)

Fuck Randall Hyde, and the HLA victims, or die.


Betov.

< http://rosasm.org >


rand...@earthlink.net

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Mar 14, 2006, 10:43:08 AM3/14/06
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Betov wrote:
>
> _I_ am adult in the acception of "aged", but, mind
> you, i did all my best, along all my life, to remain
> a young-nerd, and i pretty well succeeded to remain
> a nerd...

I guess this explains why you think you're insulting me by calling me a
"nerd" all the time? Because you're associating me with you?
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

Frank Kotler

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Mar 14, 2006, 11:45:44 AM3/14/06
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Betov wrote:

> Fuck Randall Hyde, and the HLA victims, or die.

I'm thinking... :)

Best,
Frank

o//annabee

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Mar 14, 2006, 4:15:28 PM3/14/06
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På Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:48:27 +0100, skrev Betov <be...@free.fr>:

> dun...@yahoo.com écrivait news:1142315333.482339.82000
> @e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:
>
>> HLA Adventure should compile fine with version 1.49 (or above) of Randy
>> Hyde's fantastic HLA compiler.
>
> Poor pathetic little nerd...

I disagree.

;)

>
>
> Betov.
>
> < http://rosasm.org >
>

o//annabee

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Mar 14, 2006, 4:41:34 PM3/14/06
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På Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:11:59 +0100, skrev Betov <be...@free.fr>:


> :)
>
> Fuck Randall Hyde, and the HLA victims, or die.

:))) I got my protest accepted. I am not going away just yet.
I keep an opening for dying a bit later on.

> Betov.
>
> < http://rosasm.org >
>
>
>
>

o//annabee

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Mar 14, 2006, 4:49:41 PM3/14/06
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På Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:43:08 +0100, skrev rand...@earthlink.net
<rand...@earthlink.net>:

Do not tell me I was the only one to have thought this from the start :)))

If I recall well, René wrote the CLI. That is the "Command Line
Invitation" for AMIGA.
He also did programming on the BIG IRON, several years ago. He wrote DOS
graphical apps.
He studied the PE format, from an EXE file, by hand, no docs, but by hand.
He then wrote the most incredble assemler ever created.

Thats a nerd++ if you ask me :)))) :))))

o//annabee

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Mar 14, 2006, 6:13:12 PM3/14/06
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På Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:45:44 +0100, skrev Frank Kotler
<fbko...@comcast.net>:

> Betov wrote:
>
>> Fuck Randall Hyde, and the HLA victims, or die.
>
> I'm thinking... :)

You want to Fuck him, or do you want to die?

Pemission to selfdestruct now? :D :D

>
> Best,
> Frank

rand...@earthlink.net

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Mar 14, 2006, 6:47:29 PM3/14/06
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o//annabee wrote:
>> >>
> >> _I_ am adult in the acception of "aged", but, mind
> >> you, i did all my best, along all my life, to remain
> >> a young-nerd, and i pretty well succeeded to remain
> >> a nerd...
> >
> > I guess this explains why you think you're insulting me by calling me a
> > "nerd" all the time? Because you're associating me with you?
>
> Do not tell me I was the only one to have thought this from the start :)))

I think a lot of people have been confused about why he has been
calling me a "nerd" as some sort of insult and then claimed to be one
himself. As I said the first time he started this, if he was trying to
insult me by calling me a nerd, he was failing miserably.

>
> If I recall well, René wrote the CLI. That is the "Command Line
> Invitation" for AMIGA.

I don't recall him ever mentioning it. But whatever...

> He also did programming on the BIG IRON, several years ago.

He also built a lot of houses when it turned out he couldn't handle
working on the BIG IRON. :-)


> He wrote DOS
> graphical apps.

Wow, him and tens of thousands of others. What's the big deal here?
BTW, where are the links?


> He studied the PE format, from an EXE file, by hand, no docs, but by hand.

Which demonstrates how stupid he is. In 1998 when he decided to work on
SpAsm, the PE/COFF format was *very* well documented. If he had spent
10 minutes searching for the material, he wouldn't have wasted so much
time learning it all manually. And also, if he'd looked at the
documentation, he wouldn't have wound up with an assembler (and
disassembler, for that matter) that doesn't do PE files very well. You
do realize, don't you, that one can do *all* sorts of stuff with PE
files that RosAsm doesn't support. Ask Rene about multiple sections
sometime (beyond the usual text/data/bss sections). If he'd bothered
to read the PE/COFF specifications, RosAsm would certainly be quite a
bit different than it is today. For all his bragging ("Chest-bombing")
about how RosAsm is a specific assembler for PE/COFF, it is amusing to
see that it only supports a subset of the PE/COFF facilities.

> He then wrote the most incredble assemler ever created.

I'm sure someone who hasn't used any other assemblers much would think
this. People who have, however, don't use RosAsm. That should tell you
something.


>
> Thats a nerd++ if you ask me :)))) :))))

Call him whatever you like. Call me whatever you like. But you don't
exactly have the experience in life to make your opinion count for much
to anyone other than yourself.
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

o//annabee

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Mar 14, 2006, 7:53:16 PM3/14/06
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På Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:47:29 +0100, skrev rand...@earthlink.net
<rand...@earthlink.net>:

> Call me whatever you like.Cheers,
> Randy Hyde

That posts, which was ment as a tribute to a wonderful guy, you made it to
be something shitty. So FANK you very much Randall Hyde !

That was 100% uneeded. I hope someone with bad taste eats you alive some
nice day!!


rand...@earthlink.net

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Mar 14, 2006, 9:48:16 PM3/14/06
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o//annabee wrote:
>
> That posts, which was ment as a tribute to a wonderful guy, you made it to
> be something shitty. So FANK you very much Randall Hyde !
>
> That was 100% uneeded. I hope someone with bad taste eats you alive some
> nice day!!

Oh, this is absolutely hilarious. It's okay for you to rail all over
someone who is complimenting me on my work, but when I point out a few
truths about your little demi-god, you get all upset. This is amusing
indeed. As the saying goes, do unto others as you would like them to do
unto you.
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

o//annabee

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Mar 14, 2006, 10:20:20 PM3/14/06
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Like becomming corrupt ?


> Cheers,
> Randy Hyde
>

Dunny

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Mar 15, 2006, 12:34:51 PM3/15/06
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In news:op.s6faw3mfce7g4q@bonus,
o//annabee <fa...@szmyggenpv.com> typed:

> If I recall well, René wrote the CLI. That is the "Command Line
> Invitation" for AMIGA.

Did you mean that he wrote the "Command Line Interface" for the Amiga?

If so, I think you may be mistaken - that was created by the original Amiga
team (OS work was mostly Dale Luck and Dave Haynie(sp?), IIRC).

D.


o//annabee

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Mar 15, 2006, 9:46:21 PM3/15/06
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If so I was mistaken. Thanks for finding out. I am sorry about this. I am
no longer sure how I arrived at this conclusion. I must have misread
something somewhere, and it got stuck and I may have added more into it
than what was the case.

Anyway, if you are sure, mind posting the link that shows that Dale Luck
and/or Dave Haynie spesifically wrote the CLI?

> D.

Dunny

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In news:op.s6hjbjpwce7g4q@bonus,
o//annabee <fa...@szmyggenpv.com> typed:

The CLI was integral to the entire AmigaOS - whereas Windows began life as a
bolt-on GUI, with the Amiga it was designed specifically as part of the OS.
The original Amiga 1000 has all the signatures of the developers embossed
into the inside of the case. A list of these people can be found at:

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/signatures.html

Although Dave Haynie isn't listed, Amiga OS was developed from an earlier
project entitled "CAOS", which was built upon an earlier OS called "Tripos"
which was developed by Metacomco at the University of Cambridge). Dave
became involved in the OS design around the release of Kickstart 1.2, as far
as I am aware. It's interesting to note that CAOS wasn't ready in time for
the release, and so Tripos had to be used as the base for the new AmigaOS.
CAOS information can be found at Dave's pages:

http://www.thule.no/haynie/caos.html

And again, credits written inside Kickstart/Workbench can be found here:

http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_12.html

Unless Betov happens to be the mythical "Joe Pillow" or one of the "Dancing
Fools", then I doubt that he had anything at all to do with the development
of the Amiga Operating System.

Maybe Betov can clear this up for us?

D.


Evenbit

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Mar 16, 2006, 6:50:50 AM3/16/06
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Dunny wrote:

> Unless Betov happens to be the mythical "Joe Pillow" or one of the "Dancing
> Fools", then I doubt that he had anything at all to do with the development
> of the Amiga Operating System.
>
> Maybe Betov can clear this up for us?

Haven't you noticed the 68K cross-compiling features in RosAsm? ;-)

Carl Sassenrath created the Amiga OS:
http://www.sassenrath.com/

Nathan.

Betov

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Mar 16, 2006, 6:53:33 AM3/16/06
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> Maybe Betov can clear this up for us?

I don't know what you are talking about. I never used
any Amiga.

I tried to re-read the first Half Post about this...
I don't know what he is confusing. Maybe he confuses
with the name of my first Computer - if i ever talked
of this... - which was an Amstrad 1512 (the first Joe's
PC, we got in Europe).


Betov.

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Dunny

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Mar 16, 2006, 4:43:40 PM3/16/06
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Evenbit <nbake...@charter.net> typed:

> Dunny wrote:
>
>> Unless Betov happens to be the mythical "Joe Pillow" or one of the
>> "Dancing Fools", then I doubt that he had anything at all to do with
>> the development of the Amiga Operating System.
>>
>> Maybe Betov can clear this up for us?
>
> Haven't you noticed the 68K cross-compiling features in RosAsm? ;-)

They must have been buried under the wealth of other (but surely just as
useful under Windows) features that rosasm offers...

> Carl Sassenrath created the Amiga OS:
> http://www.sassenrath.com/

Ahhh, that's the chap. He was credited with being involved on Dave Haynie's
site, but I didn't bother to look any closer at that particular guy.

I recall a long time ago, mucking about with Mr Haynie's disk tool
(DiskSalv?), and finding the hidden messages in Workbench 1.2 - especially
the one about Dale Luck. His name was indeed embossed on the inside of my
A1000's case. Did Dale work on the Workbench rather than the actual OS then?

Is there a resource anywhere that states exactly who did what? I do know
that Dave Haynie was involved in what would have been the Amiga's first TTF
style font engine (which would have been different from the AmigaOS font
renderer which began strictly bitmap based) but it got canned when commodore
ran into trouble.

D.


Kevin G. Rhoads

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Mar 17, 2006, 12:55:50 PM3/17/06
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>I keep an opening for dying a bit later on.

I'm more with Woody Allen in this, about the achieving immortality by not dying. Maybe I'll change my mind
later on, but not dying sounds like the way to go for now.

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