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Nomen Nescio

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Sep 3, 2003, 6:20:04 PM9/3/03
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curious I found on dr f.a.q.


> >>Shyamasundara Dasa had an ugly business dealing with him, which
> >> allowed him these personal tidbits:
> >> Date of birth: Oct 7, 1946, 9:15AM
> >> Place of birth: New Delhi, India
> >> Real name: Jai Mathura (but was using Jai Stevens


what is astrologer say to jay stevens date of birth?
thanks in advance,
lou

Astronomy Guru

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Assuming your data is correct, then "Dr. Jai Maharaj"
has a challenging horoscope, having two nearly equal
scenarios for his natal chart theme, each with three
ruling planets and three fallen planets apiece. This
theme is decided by the part Fortune, either exalted
or debilitated, either ninth or third meridian house
on account of nocturnal ascendant and Moon's transit
antemidheaven to third of zodiac. The two charts are:

Sun : [12th] [-]
Moon : [ 4th] [R]
Mercury : [12th] [F]
Venus : [ 1st] [F]
Mars : [ 1st] [R]
Jupiter : [ 1st] [-]
Saturn : [10th] [R]
Uranus : [ 8th] [e]
Neptune : [12th] [R]
Pluto : [10th] [-]
Node : [ 8th] [-]
Lilith : [ 2nd] [F]
Fortune : [ 9th] [e]

or

Sun : [ 6th] [-]
Moon : [10th] [F]
Mercury : [ 6th] [R]
Venus : [ 7th] [R]
Mars : [ 7th] [F]
Jupiter : [ 7th] [-]
Saturn : [ 4th] [F]
Uranus : [ 2nd] [d]
Neptune : [ 6th] [F]
Pluto : [ 4th] [-]
Node : [ 2nd] [-]
Lilith : [ 8th] [R]
Fortune : [ 9th] [e]

On the strength of the Moon, the better theme is adjudged
with Mars ruling terrestrial Aries & Venus fallen therein
in ascendency, Mercury falls twelfth house, Moon rules in
the fourth house, Fortune exalts ninth, spirit debilitate
sixth, Uranus exalted eighth, Saturn rules tenth, Neptune
rules twelfth over the Sun. Soul's planet is from Mercury:

+----<11> 4Vir29[12]---<10> 2Leo22[11]---<9> 2Can34[10]-----+
| Nep 14Vir30 | | | |
| Sun 19Vir14 | | | Ver 22Gem25 |
| Mer 4Lib51 | | Plu 18Can59 | For 14Gem09 |
| | | Sat 13Can04 | |
<12> 6Lib44[1]-|-----------------------------|--[9] 4Gem43<8>
| Jup 8Lib24 | Astrolog 5.41G chart | |
| Mar 14Lib27 | Jay Stevens -24.0434464 | Ura 27Tau43r |
| Asc 26Lib51 | Mon Oct 7 1946 9:15:00am | Nod 19Tau45r |
| Ven 1Sco07 | New Delhi, INDIA | Ald 15Tau00 |
<1> 6Sco45[2]--|ST +05:30, 77E12:00 28N36:00|--[8] 6Tau45<7>
| |UT: 4:25:00, Sid.T: 9:54:35| |
| OLi 14Sco13r | Terrestrial Houses | |
| MLi 23Sco07 | Caelestial / Geocentric | |
| | Julian Day = 2432100.6563 | Des 26Ari51 |
<2> 4Sag43[3]--|-----------------------------|--[7] 6Ari44<6>
| | Moo 1Aqu55 | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | Esp 9Pis32 |
+-------[4] 2Cap34<3>---[5] 2Aqu22<4>---[6] 4Pis29<5>-------+

-adjudicated by Daniel Joseph Min 4-Sep-2003

*Min's Astronomical Observations:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ZZ5B1I203785...@Gilgamesh-frog.org

*Min's Planetary Awareness Technique (chapters 1 thru 7):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=CX643KWY3786...@Gilgamesh-frog.org

*Min's Official PGP Public Key on the MIT server:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3XWB7QJO377...@Gilgamesh-frog.org

*Min's Home Page On The World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=0XNKAO4L3777...@Gilgamesh-frog.org

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On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:

Astronomy Guru

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On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:

Ventas

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In article <HH4VBHR53786...@bog.lir.dk>

Astronomy Guru <senior.p...@sci.astro.cornell.edu> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> > curious I found on dr f.a.q.
> >> >>Shyamasundara Dasa had an ugly business dealing with him, which
> >> >> allowed him these personal tidbits:
> >> >> Date of birth: Oct 7, 1946, 9:15AM
> >> >> Place of birth: New Delhi, India
> >> >> Real name: Jai Mathura (but was using Jai Stevens
> > what is astrologer say to jay stevens date of birth?
> > thanks in advance,
> > lou
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The Collected Buffoonery of Daniel J. Min - Usenet's most failed prophet.

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Who is Danny Min?
What does he post?
Examples of failed prophecies
What you should do

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Who is Daniel J. Min?
Daniel J. Min is a denizen of Usenet newsgroups. He posts using various variations on his name, including using asterisks or underlines in place of letters. Often he will post as "Nomen Nescio" or Anonymous, and he used to post as GOD>.
The reason for this is to get around peoples "kill files" or "bozo filters"

However, he consistently posts through anonymous "remailers" in order to disguise his true identity

He posts to various newsgroups, including alt.astrology, alt.astronomy, and alt.prophecies.nostradamus. He posts in any inappropriate newsgroup he deems neccessary.

Additionally Danny has been known to directly email people, once again, using his anonymous remailer service.

What does he post?
Danny posts various garbage claims about astrological influences, and birthdata, which he generally makes up as he goes along. Outstanding amongst his posts include claims to know exactly the birthdata of Jesus Christ, Johannes Kepler, Ptolemy, and various other historical characters.
He posts silly prophecies and claims, and even at times posts his own "kill file list" which has become so large that it's unlikely he even *sees* anyone else s posts anymore.

Some Classic examples of Danny's failed prophecies
(Danny's "prophetic" words are italicized)
Danny predicts the "Great Khan of Terror":
On 15 Nov 1999 22:34:03 -0600, GOD wrote in these newsgroups:
The king of terror will come some time around the month of May in 2000.

At this time, the inner planets will all be lined up on one side of the sun with the exception of the Earth which will be directly at the opposite side.

The increased gravitational effects of the sun combined with the added pull from the other planets will have a devastating effect on the earth.

At this time, all major fault lines will rupture. California will experience the big one at this time.

Volcanic activity will increase and it is very likely that the Long Valley Caulderra will explode cataclysmicly. These types of events will be occurring at roughly the same time throughout the entire planet.

To top it off, the suns corona will be nudged away from the earth...towards the grouped inner planets, effectively creating a massive coronal hole (I.E." the "three days of darkness").

When the pull of the alignment comes to pass, the corona will snap back to the earth facing side thereby releasing a CME of massive proportions....aimed directly at planet Earth.

Believe me, there will be terror at this time.


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Danny moves "The Great Kahn of Terror" by yet another 7 months:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:59:25 -0500, No User wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, bo...@vornet.com (BobO fficer) wrote:

>>On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:37:04 -0500, to alt.astrology et al I wrote

>>>Enjoy 1999 seventh month. It is Ethanim 2000.

>>you said it was last September or October,


Yes, the seventh month 1999 in the revised Roman calendar was from sunset September 10th to sunset October 10th but the first month 1999 was in the spring of 1762 BC, sunset Saturday March 24th to sunset April 22nd proleptic Julian. The seventh month Ethanim was therefore 2000, not of 1999 but FROM the first month in the YEAR 1999 of the passover. Hence, the YEAR 1999 seventh month AND seven months. See?
>>I let you take every day of the year 1999


>The LORD granted the centuries and you did not repent. He giveth and He taketh away. You Robert, speak blasphemy of the LORD.
>>and you were wrong.


>I am corrected by scripture--and Nostradamus was likewise.
>>there was no terror from the skies, no killer asteroid.


>And yet again must that universal ruler of infernal hades be raised up as it is written. Beware the star in fortune opposing, in the rule of night from heaven it advances to WINNOW, "Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire" [Mat 3:12]
>>Daniel


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Daniel Expects half the world's population destroyed in October 2000
On Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:00:02 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio wrote:
>On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, "Douglas Deaton" wrote:

>>I am new here and somewhat ignorant.

>>Doug


That makes two of us, or 6 billion of us if I'm not entirely mistaken.
At October much will be made clear
by ways and means of the elements.
I expect half the population gone,
global equalisation of temperature
and pressure, the time, a new race,
His perpetual age the moment where,
or at the place when, smoke clears.

Enjoy the fireworks!
Daniel Joseph Min- >


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Daniel predicts the US presidential election for 2000
On 12 Nov 2000 23:44:00 -0000, Daniel Joseph Min wrote:
The 42nd President of the United States is the very
last of all the American Presidents to hold office.

He will announce our *National Emergency* shortly,
thus will continue in the office of the President,
having already been inaugurated in due diligence
when he was elected President. Gore is still VP.

&There is no reason to repeal the 22nd amendment,
given that Mr. President William Jefferson Clinton
has been elected twice only, and no more, thus the
amendment does not apply. Neither does a term limit
apply in his case, given that this is indeed a true
state of emergency with bloody violence seen to be
escalating in the State of Florida and elsewhere,
spreading like wildfire as it is in the mid east.

Get to higher ground if you can (look at England!)
Daniel Joseph Min

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So what should you do about him?

Well, first of all, you can be pretty sure based on his success rate that anything he has to say is wrong.
Someone once said, rather well, that "there is too much Min, and not enough Nostradamus" in what he posts.


Complaining won't do much, because he's they type of individual that doesn't feel the need to explain himself.
Asking him to stop only feeds him.
complaining to his anonymous remailer service results in nothing.
About the best thing to be said, is just be aware of what a buffoon he is.

kasha

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Sep 3, 2003, 11:52:11 PM9/3/03
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ASPECTS ANGLES ORBS
Mar SSX Nep 29° 56' 0° 04'
Mar QTL Mid 72° 05' 0° 05'
Mar BQT MNN 143° 47' 0° 13'
Sun SXT Plu 60° 15' 0° 15'
Mid QTL MNN 71° 42' 0° 18'
Sat SSQ Ura 45° 20' 0° 20'
Moo OPP Mid 179° 34' 0° 26'
Moo QTL MSN 71° 16' 0° 44'
Mer SSQ MSN 45° 48' 0° 48'
Mer SES MNN 134° 12' 0° 48'
Moo SQR Ven 90° 49' 0° 49'
Ura INC Asc 149° 07' 0° 53'
Ven SQR Mid 88° 45' 1° 15'
Mar SQR Sat 91° 23' 1° 23'
Sun SXT MSN 61° 25' 1° 25'
Sun TRI MNN 118° 35' 1° 25'
Sat SXT Nep 61° 27' 1° 27'
Ven SSQ Nep 46° 36' 1° 36'
Plu TRI MSN 121° 40' 1° 40'
Plu SXT MNN 58° 20' 1° 40'
Mar SES Ura 136° 43' 1° 43'
Sun SSQ Mid 46° 52' 1° 52'
Mer SXT Mid 62° 29' 2° 29'
Moo TRI Mer 117° 04' 2° 56'
Mer CJN Jup 3° 33' 3° 33'
Moo TRI Ura 115° 48' 4° 12'
Ven CJN Asc 4° 17' 4° 17'
Mar SQR Plu 85° 27' 4° 33'
Jup SQR Sat 85° 21' 4° 39'
Sun CJN Nep 4° 44' 4° 44'
Moo SQR Asc 95° 06' 5° 06'
Asc SQR Mid 84° 28' 5° 32'
Sat CJN Plu 5° 56' 5° 56'
Moo TRI Jup 113° 31' 6° 29'

Internal
Communication Index: 83

el...@no.spam

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Sep 4, 2003, 1:43:04 AM9/4/03
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In article <y7z5b.13280$N95....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>,
<viv.e...@verizon.net> wrote:

>This has the ring of truth.

Like you'd know? ROFLMAO!

kasha

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Sep 4, 2003, 1:28:54 AM9/4/03
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if the birth is really in New Delhi, then note ketu in 2nd and
mars/mercury conjnt(according to vedic)

--------------------------------------------------------------------
These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora Lite". It is a
free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download it
from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or http://www.sjvc.net.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Date of Birth: October 7, 1946
Time of Birth: 9:15:00 am
Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT
Longitude of Birth: 77 E 12
Latitude of Birth: 28 N 36
Lunar month (maasa): Aswayuja
Lunar day (tithi): Sukla Dwadasi
Tithi balance: 0.9441
Nakshatra balance: 0.2870
Sun-Moon Yoga: Soola
Sun-Moon Karana: Bava
Vara (weekday): Monday

Sunrise = 6:16 am (Apparent rise - upper limb)
Ayanamsa = 23-06-32
Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days

Planet Position Pada CharaK

Ascdt 27 Li 46 Visakha 3 -
Sun 20 Vi 10 Hastha 4 AK
Moon 2 Aq 50 Dhanishtha 3 GK
Mars 15 Li 22 Swathi 3 AmK
Mercury 5 Li 46 Chitra 4 PK
Jupiter 9 Li 19 Swathi 1 MK
Venus 2 Sc 02 Visakha 4 DK
Saturn 14 Cn 00 Pushyami 4 BK
Rahu 21 Ta 35 Rohini 4 PiK
Ketu 21 Sc 35 Jyeshtha 2 -
BhavaLg 4 Sc 33 Anuradha 1 -
HoraLg 19 Sg 03 Poo.Shaa. 2 -
GhatiLg 2 Ta 35 Krittika 2 -
Dhooma 3 Aq 30 Dhanishtha 4 -
Vyati 26 Ta 29 Mrigasira 1 -
Pari 26 Sc 29 Jyeshtha 3 -
I.Chapa 3 Le 30 Makha 2 -
Upaketu 20 Le 10 Poo.Pha. 3 -
Kaala 20 Aq 09 Poo.Bhaa. 1 -
Mrityu 8 Li 25 Swathi 1 -
ArthaPr 27 Li 16 Visakha 3 -
YamaGha 16 Sc 03 Anuradha 4 -
Mandi 8 Cp 27 U.Shaa. 4 -
Gulika 26 Sg 41 U.Shaa. 1 -


+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | | GL | |
| | | | |
| | | Rah | |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| Moo | | Sat |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------| R A S I |-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| Mnd | | |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | Ven | | |
| HL | | Mer Jup | |
| | BL | | Sun |
| Glk | | Mar Asc | |
| | Ket | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | | | |
| Mnd | | | Asc |
| | | | |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | Rah |
| | | |
| Mar | | Sun |
| | | |
| | | Ven |
|-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|
| | | |
| GL | | |
| | | BL |
| Ket | | |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | | |
| Jup | Sat | | |
| | | Moo | HL |
| Glk | Mer | | |
| | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+


Vimsottari Dasa:

Mars 1946-10-07 Sun 1947-11-03 Moon 1948-03-10
Rahu 1948-10-09 Jupi 1951-06-22 Satu 1953-11-15 Merc 1956-09-21 Ketu
1959-04-10
Venu 1960-04-28 Sun 1963-04-28 Moon 1964-03-22 Mars
1965-09-21
Jupi 1966-10-10 Satu 1968-11-27 Merc 1971-06-10 Ketu 1973-09-15 Venu
1974-08-22
Sun 1977-04-22 Moon 1978-02-08 Mars 1979-06-10 Rahu
1980-05-16
Satu 1982-10-09 Merc 1985-10-12 Ketu 1988-06-21 Venu 1989-07-31 Sun
1992-09-30
Moon 1993-09-12 Mars 1995-04-13 Rahu 1996-05-22 Jupi
1999-03-29
Merc 2001-10-09 Ketu 2004-03-07 Venu 2005-03-04 Sun 2008-01-03 Moon
2008-11-08
Mars 2010-04-10 Rahu 2011-04-07 Jupi 2013-10-24 Satu
2016-01-30
Ketu 2018-10-09 Venu 2019-03-07 Sun 2020-05-06 Moon 2020-09-11 Mars
2021-04-12
Rahu 2021-09-08 Jupi 2022-09-27 Satu 2023-09-03 Merc
2024-10-12
Venu 2025-10-09 Sun 2029-02-07 Moon 2030-02-08 Mars 2031-10-09 Rahu
2032-12-08
Jupi 2035-12-09 Satu 2038-08-09 Merc 2041-10-09 Ketu
2044-08-09
Sun 2045-10-09 Moon 2046-01-26 Mars 2046-07-28 Rahu 2046-12-03 Jupi
2047-10-27
Satu 2048-08-15 Merc 2049-07-28 Ketu 2050-06-03 Venu
2050-10-09
Moon 2051-10-09 Mars 2052-08-09 Rahu 2053-03-10 Jupi 2054-09-08 Satu
2056-01-08
Merc 2057-08-09 Ketu 2059-01-08 Venu 2059-08-09 Sun
2061-04-09

Ashtottari Dasa:

Jupi 1946-10-07 Venu 1947-09-14 Sun 1951-05-26 Moon 1952-06-14
Mars 1955-02-03 Merc 1956-07-01 Satu 1959-06-28
Rahu 1961-04-01 Venu 1962-08-01 Sun 1964-11-30 Moon 1965-08-01 Mars
1967-04-01
Merc 1968-02-20 Satu 1970-01-10 Jupi 1971-02-20
Venu 1973-04-01 Sun 1977-05-01 Moon 1978-07-01 Mars 1981-06-01 Merc
1982-12-21
Satu 1986-04-11 Jupi 1988-03-21 Rahu 1991-12-01
Sun 1994-04-01 Moon 1994-08-01 Mars 1995-06-01 Merc 1995-11-10 Satu
1996-10-20
Jupi 1997-05-11 Rahu 1998-06-01 Venu 1999-01-30
Moon 2000-03-31 Mars 2002-05-01 Merc 2003-06-11 Satu 2005-10-21 Jupi
2007-03-12
Rahu 2009-10-31 Venu 2011-07-01 Sun 2014-06-01
Mars 2015-04-01 Merc 2015-11-04 Satu 2017-02-06 Jupi 2017-11-03 Rahu
2019-04-01
Venu 2020-02-20 Sun 2021-09-10 Moon 2022-02-19
Merc 2023-04-01 Satu 2025-12-03 Jupi 2027-07-01 Rahu 2030-06-28 Venu
2032-05-18
Sun 2035-09-07 Moon 2036-08-17 Mars 2038-12-27
Satu 2040-03-31 Jupi 2041-03-04 Rahu 2042-12-07 Venu 2044-01-17 Sun
2045-12-27
Moon 2046-07-18 Mars 2047-12-07 Merc 2048-09-03
Jupi 2050-04-01 Rahu 2053-08-03 Venu 2055-09-14 Sun 2059-05-25 Moon
2060-06-13
Mars 2063-02-02 Merc 2064-06-30 Satu 2067-06-28

Kalachakra Dasa:

Pi 1946-10-07 Vi 1947-07-29 Li 1948-08-18 Sc 1950-07-07
Aq 1951-05-04 Cp 1951-07-12 Ge 1951-09-18 Le 1952-02-20 Cn
1952-05-16
Vi 1953-05-12 Li 1953-10-14 Sc 1954-07-16 Pi
1954-11-13
Cp 1955-05-04 Ge 1955-07-12 Le 1955-12-13 Cn 1956-03-08 Vi
1957-03-04
Li 1957-08-06 Sc 1958-05-08 Pi 1958-09-05 Aq
1959-02-24
Sg 1959-05-04 Sc 1960-05-03 Li 1961-01-14 Vi 1962-08-21 Le
1963-07-16
Cn 1964-01-14 Ge 1966-02-19 Ta 1967-01-14 Ar
1968-08-20
Sc 1969-05-03 Li 1969-10-29 Vi 1970-12-12 Le 1971-07-30 Cn
1971-12-05
Ge 1973-05-25 Ta 1974-01-10 Ar 1975-02-23 Sg
1975-08-21
Li 1976-05-03 Vi 1978-11-24 Le 1980-05-03 Cn 1981-02-19 Ge
1984-06-30
Ta 1985-12-08 Ar 1988-06-30 Sg 1989-08-13 Sc
1991-03-21
Vi 1992-05-03 Le 1993-02-23 Cn 1993-08-06 Ge 1995-06-27 Ta
1996-04-18
Ar 1997-09-26 Sg 1998-05-14 Sc 1999-04-08 Li
1999-11-24
Le 2001-05-03 Cn 2001-08-02 Ge 2002-08-21 Ta 2003-02-01 Ar
2003-11-20
Sg 2004-03-27 Sc 2004-09-26 Li 2005-02-01 Vi
2005-11-20
Cn 2006-05-03 Ge 2010-09-30 Ta 2012-08-20 Ar 2015-12-30 Sg
2017-06-19
Sc 2019-07-26 Li 2021-01-13 Vi 2024-05-24 Le
2026-04-15
Ge 2027-05-03 Ta 2028-02-23 Ar 2029-08-02 Sg 2030-03-20 Sc
2031-02-12
Li 2031-09-30 Vi 2033-03-09 Le 2033-12-30 Cn
2034-06-12
Ta 2036-05-02 Ar 2038-11-23 Sg 2040-01-07 Sc 2041-08-13 Li
2042-09-26
Vi 2045-04-18 Le 2046-09-26 Cn 2047-07-15 Ge
2050-11-23
Ar 2052-05-02 Sg 2052-10-28 Sc 2053-07-11 Li 2054-01-06 Vi
2055-02-19
Le 2055-10-07 Cn 2056-02-12 Ge 2057-08-02 Ta
2058-03-20


Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction):

Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi
Sun 5 4 4 6 5 3* 4 2 4 3 3 5
Moon 4 4 2 7 6 3 2 4 5 3 5* 4
Mars 4 2 2 6 4 2 4* 2 3 3 3 4
Merc 2 6 3 7 6 4 4* 4 3 5 4 6
Jupi 5 3 5 6 6 3 6* 6 5 4 2 5
Venu 3 4 6 3 6 4 3 3* 5 4 6 5
Satu 3 2 2 5* 4 6 3 1 5 1 2 5
Total 26 25 24 40 37 25 26 22 30 23 25 34

Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction):

Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi
Sun 1 1 1 4 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 3
Moon 0 1 0 3 2 0 0 0 1 0 3 0
Mars 1 0 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 0 1 2
Merc 0 2 0 3 4 0 1 0 1 0 1 1
Jupi 0 0 3 1 1 0 4 1 0 1 0 0
Venu 0 0 3 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 3 0
Satu 0 1 0 4 1 5 1 0 2 0 0 2
Total 0 2 0 18 11 2 2 0 4 0 1 4

Sodya Pindas:

RasiP GrahaP SodyaP Rasi Nakshatra

Sun 94 43 137 Vi U.Pha.
Moon 84 30 114 Vi Krittika
Mars 82 71 153 Pi Jyeshtha
Merc 111 43 154 Pi Aardra
Jupi 79 104 183 Vi Jyeshtha
Venu 87 15 102 Pi Krittika
Satu 110 68 178 Sc Mrigasira


+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | GL Sat |
| | | Mar Asc |
| | | Ven |
| | | BL HL |
| | | Glk Mnd |
|-------------| H O R A |-------------|
| | | Rah Sun |
| | | |
| | | Mer Jup |
| | | |
| | | Ket Moo |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | | GL | |
| | HL | | Asc |
| | | Sun | |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| Mar | | |
| | | Ket |
| Moo | | |
| | | |
|-------------| D - 3 |-------------|
| | | |
| Rah | | |
| | | Glk |
| Mnd | | |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | Sat | | |
| | | Mer | |
| | Ven | | |
| | | Jup | |
| | BL | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | Mar | GL | |
| Sun | | | HL |
| | Mnd | Ket | |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| Moo | | Asc |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------| D - 4 |-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| Jup | | |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | Rah | | |
| | | Sat | |
| | Ven | | Glk |
| | | Mer | |
| | BL | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | GL | |
| | Mer | | |
| Sat | | Ven | HL |
| | Moo | | |
| | | BL | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| Jup | | |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------| D - 5 |-------------|
| Rah | | |
| | | |
| Sun | | |
| | | |
| Ket | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | | |
| | | Asc | |
| Mar | | | Mnd |
| | | Glk | |
| | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | | Mer | |
| | Moo | | |
| | | Jup | |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| Rah | | |
| | | Mar |
| Sun | | |
| | | HL |
| Ket | | |
|-------------| D - 6 |-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | GL | |
| | | | Asc |
| Sat | Mnd | Ven | |
| | | | Glk |
| | | BL | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | Rah Sat | | BL |
| | | Ven | |
| | Asc HL | | Glk |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| Moo | | Sun |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------| D - 7 |-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| Mar | | Mnd |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | | |
| | GL | | |
| Jup | | Ket | |
| | Mer | | |
| | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | Rah | |
| | | | Jup |
| Glk | | Mer | |
| | | | Mnd |
| | | Ket | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| | | Sat |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------| D - 8 |-------------|
| Sun | | |
| | | |
| BL | | Mar |
| | | |
| HL | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| GL | | | |
| | | | |
| Ven | Asc | | |
| | | | |
| Moo | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | | | |
| Mar | | | HL |
| | | | |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | Sat |
| Ket | | |
| | | Asc |
| Moo | | |
| | | Ven |
|-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------|
| | | Rah |
| GL | | |
| | | BL |
| Jup | | |
| | | Glk |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | Sun | | |
| | | | |
| | Mer | | |
| | | | |
| | Mnd | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| GL | | | Sat |
| | Ket | Glk | |
| Mar | | | Sun |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| HL | | Moo |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------| D - 1 1 |-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| Jup | | Asc |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | Rah | |
| | | | |
| Mer | | BL | Ven |
| | | | |
| | | Mnd | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | Mar | | |
| Moo | | Sun | GL |
| | Mnd | | |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| | | Ket |
| | | |
| | | HL |
| | | |
|-------------| D - 1 2 |-------------|
| | | |
| Rah | | |
| | | |
| Jup | | |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| Sat | | | |
| | | | |
| Mer | Ven | Glk | Asc |
| | | | |
| BL | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | Asc |
| | | | |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | Rah |
| | | |
| Glk | | Mer |
| | | |
| | | Ket |
|-------------| D - 1 6 |-------------|
| | | |
| | | Jup |
| | | |
| | | Mnd |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | Sun | GL |
| | | | |
| Mar | Sat | BL | Ven |
| | | | |
| | | HL | Moo |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | | | |
| BL | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| Rah | | |
| | | |
| Mar | | Mer |
| | | |
| Ket | | |
|-------------| D - 2 0 |-------------|
| GL Sat | | |
| | | |
| Ven | | HL |
| | | |
| Glk Moo | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | | |
| | | Jup | Sun |
| | | | |
| | | Asc | Mnd |
| | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | | | Sat |
| Jup | | Glk | |
| | | | Asc |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------| D - 2 4 |-------------|
| | | |
| | | Mar |
| Mnd | | |
| | | Ven |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| Rah | | | |
| | Sun | BL | |
| Mer | | | GL |
| | HL | Moo | |
| Ket | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | | |
| | | | |
| Mer | Glk | BL | Jup |
| | | | |
| | | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| Rah | | |
| | | |
| Ven | | |
| | | |
| Mnd | | |
|-------------| D - 2 7 |-------------|
| | | |
| Sat | | |
| | | Ket |
| Sun | | |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | | |
| | Mar | | GL |
| Moo | | | |
| | Asc | | HL |
| | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | GL | |
| | | | |
| Sat | Moo | Ven | HL |
| | | | |
| | | BL | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| Mer | | |
| | | |
| Jup | | |
| | | |
|-------------| D - 3 0 |-------------|
| Rah | | |
| | | |
| Sun | | |
| | | |
| Ket | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | | |
| | | Asc | |
| Mar | | | Mnd |
| | | Glk | |
| | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | Sat | | |
| | | Asc | |
| Glk | Jup | | |
| | | HL | |
| | BL | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| Rah | | |
| | | Moo |
| Ket | | |
| | | |
|-------------| D - 4 0 |-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| GL | | |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| Sun | | | |
| | | | |
| Mar | Mer | | Mnd |
| | | | |
| Ven | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | Rah Ket | | |
| | | | |
| Mar | HL | Jup | Sun |
| | | | |
| | Glk Mnd | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| BL | | |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------| D - 4 5 |-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| Sat | | |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | | |
| Mer | GL | | |
| | | | Asc |
| Moo | Ven | | |
| | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
| | | Asc | |
| | Jup | | |
| Ven | | Glk | Ket |
| | Mar | | |
| | | Mnd | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| HL | | Moo |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------| D - 6 0 |-------------|
| | | |
| | | |
| Sun | | BL |
| | | |
| | | |
|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|
| | | | |
| | | | |
| Rah | Sat | GL | Mer |
| | | | |
| | | | |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

Nomen Nescio

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thanks for fast answer. trickster make perfect sense, dr jai is tricky.
lou

Dr. Jai Maharaj

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Apparently, the anonymous coward posting as
Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> <ab...@dizum.com>
has tried to post my birth data below. But that is
not my birth data. nor is my name anything other
than Jai Maharaj.

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

In article <3a56e7b85fb84708...@dizum.com> <ab...@dizum.com>
Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> posted:

Dr. Jai Maharaj

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In article <HH4VBHR53786...@bog.lir.dk>,
Astronomy Guru <senior.p...@sci.astro.cornell.edu> posted:
>
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> > thanks in advance,
> > lou
> Assuming your data is correct, then "Dr. Jai Maharaj" . . .

It isn't correct; it must be someone else's data. I just posted
the following:

[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ Subject: Re: none
[ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003

Apparently, the anonymous coward posting as
Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> <ab...@dizum.com>
has tried to post my birth data below. But that is
not my birth data. nor is my name anything other
than Jai Maharaj.

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

In article <3a56e7b85fb84708...@dizum.com> <ab...@dizum.com>
Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> posted:
>

> curious I found on dr f.a.q.

> [...]
> thanks in advance,
> lou

Cujo

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Sep 5, 2003, 1:35:48 PM9/5/03
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On 05 Sep 2003, Fucknozzle wrote in alt.astrology:

> Apparently, the anonymous coward posting as
> Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> <ab...@dizum.com>
> has tried to post my birth data below. But that is
> not my birth data. nor is my name anything other
> than Jai Maharaj.

Put a "sock" in it, Fucknozzle.

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Sep 5, 2003, 1:40:41 PM9/5/03
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In article <y7z5b.13280$N95....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>,
<viv.e...@verizon.net> posted from
hnllhi1-ar3-4-35-227-091.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net:
>
> This has the ring of truth. Jai has always come off as a born Hindu to
> me, despite many assertions otherwise. . . .

You are trying to work on data not mine. Stop publishing
text as if it applies to me.

Spámster

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Sep 5, 2003, 4:28:39 PM9/5/03
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"Dr. Jai Maharaj" wrote:

> Apparently, the anonymous coward

You must be referring to Min. Yes, he is an anonymous coward. A morphing
loser too.


Spámster

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Sep 5, 2003, 4:29:33 PM9/5/03
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"Dr. Jai Maharaj" wrote:

> In article <HH4VBHR53786...@bog.lir.dk>,
> Astronomy Guru <senior.p...@sci.astro.cornell.edu> posted:
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > thanks in advance,
> > > lou
> > Assuming your data is correct, then "Dr. Jai Maharaj" . . .
>
> It isn't correct; it must be someone else's data. I just posted
> the following:
>

Nobody cares, fraud.


Spámster

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Sep 5, 2003, 4:30:40 PM9/5/03
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"Dr. Jai Maharaj" wrote:

> In article <y7z5b.13280$N95....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>,
> <viv.e...@verizon.net> posted from
> hnllhi1-ar3-4-35-227-091.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net:
> >
> > This has the ring of truth. Jai has always come off as a born Hindu to
> > me, despite many assertions otherwise. . . .
>
> You are trying to work on data not mine. Stop publishing
> text as if it applies to me.
>

Stop setting the followup to your email, creep.


Cujo

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Sep 5, 2003, 5:58:38 PM9/5/03
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On 05 Sep 2003, Fucknozzle wrote in alt.astrology:

> In article <y7z5b.13280$N95....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>,
> <Fuckno...@verizon.net> posted from

> hnllhi1-ar3-4-35-227-091.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net:
>>
>> This has the ring of truth. Jai has always come off as a born Hindu
>> to me, despite many assertions otherwise. . . .
>
> You are trying to work on data not mine. Stop publishing
> text as if it applies to me.

Dear Fucknozzle: You're a lying kook.

el...@no.spam

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Sep 5, 2003, 6:45:54 PM9/5/03
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In article <3F58F22D...@mail.com>,
Spįmster <dont....@mail.com> wrote:

>Nobody cares, fraud.

Call him fucknozzel.

Spámster

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Sep 5, 2003, 10:53:08 PM9/5/03
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el...@no.spam wrote:

Isn't there already one here?

el...@no.spam

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Sep 5, 2003, 11:27:37 PM9/5/03
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In article <3F594C14...@mail.com>,
Spįmster <dont....@mail.com> wrote:

You're thinking of fucknozzel jr.

Spámster

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Sep 5, 2003, 11:34:29 PM9/5/03
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el...@no.spam wrote:

Oops.


viv.e...@verizon.net

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Sep 6, 2003, 4:17:29 AM9/6/03
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Phoenix wrote:

> In article <Jai-Maharaj-00n...@news.mantra.com>, Dr. Jai


> Maharaj <use...@mantra.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <y7z5b.13280$N95....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>,
> > <viv.e...@verizon.net> posted from
> > hnllhi1-ar3-4-35-227-091.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net:
> > >
> > > This has the ring of truth. Jai has always come off as a born Hindu to
> > > me, despite many assertions otherwise. . . .
> >
> > You are trying to work on data not mine. Stop publishing
> > text as if it applies to me.
>

> Deny his request. This is Jay Stevens, voted Usenet Kook of the Month in 1995.
> He is a raving loon driving under the influence on the Information Superhighway.
>
>
I think Jay's record speaks for itself. What I've written is written.
I feel there is no need to add to it. Nor will I deny it. The
character who styles himself 'Jai Maharaj' is perfectly described by the
chart resulting from the birth data that was given. It would be
perfectly in character for this native to deny his own birth data.

As above, so below
viveshwar


viv.e...@verizon.net

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Sep 6, 2003, 4:54:35 AM9/6/03
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Ventas wrote:

> In article <HH4VBHR53786...@bog.lir.dk>
> Astronomy Guru <senior.p...@sci.astro.cornell.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> > > curious I found on dr f.a.q.
> > >> >>Shyamasundara Dasa had an ugly business dealing with him, which
> > >> >> allowed him these personal tidbits:
> > >> >> Date of birth: Oct 7, 1946, 9:15AM
> > >> >> Place of birth: New Delhi, India
> > >> >> Real name: Jai Mathura (but was using Jai Stevens
> > > what is astrologer say to jay stevens date of birth?
> > > thanks in advance,
> > > lou
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >
> >
>
>
> The Collected Buffoonery of Daniel J. Min - Usenet's most failed prophet.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Who is Danny Min?

<long explanations snipped>

> About the best thing to be said, is just be aware of what a buffoon he is.
>

Min is the worst astrologer I've ever seen, bar none. Worse than sun
signs in the newspaper. Worse than blind chance. Worse than chicken
entrails. He's got a mind that automatically misses every basic, and
then gloms hopelessly onto the most meaningless details in the chart.
The inherent chaos of tropical astrology is just a culture medium for
his various fanaticisms. He rants. He obsesses. He affects archaic
language. But he never interprets the chart.

All of that notwithstanding, however, he is something of an obsessive
genius on the subject of birth data, and while I've never seen him get a
chart interpretation in the ball park, I've also never seen him botch a
set of birth data. He's got tons of useful info. squirreled away on
Usenet threads, and he's totally incapable of interpreting any of it.
Wierd. It takes all kinds.

A [Temporary] Dog

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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 01:30:49 -0700, Bob Officer
<bobof...@earthlink.net> painted a red bull's eye on his forehead,
ascended the altar of Fluffy and shouted:

>On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:34:53 GMT, in alt.astrology, use...@mantra.com (Dr.
>Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>
>>In article <HH4VBHR53786...@bog.lir.dk>,
>> Astronomy Guru <senior.p...@sci.astro.cornell.edu> posted:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>>> > [...]
>>> > thanks in advance,
>>> > lou
>>> Assuming your data is correct, then "Dr. Jai Maharaj" . . .
>>
>>It isn't correct; it must be someone else's data. I just posted
>>the following:
>>
>>[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
>>[ Subject: Re: none
>>[ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003
>>
>>Apparently, the anonymous coward posting as
>> Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> <ab...@dizum.com>
>>has tried to post my birth data below. But that is
>>not my birth data. nor is my name anything other
>>than Jai Maharaj.
>

>Jay Stevens... you mean...

Well, that's his birth name, but isn't he also known as Fucknozzle?


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Sep 6, 2003, 2:13:25 PM9/6/03
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In article <tKg6b.8365$Dg7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
<viv.e...@verizon.net> posted:
> What I've written is written. . . .

You are not an astrologer. Real astrologers don't post anonymously.
You are very likely Prem Thomas who has published threats to
murder astrologers. More about Prem Thomas here:

Prem Thomas Publishes Death Threat Against Astrologers

http://www.flex.com/~jai/articles/PremThomasThreat.html

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer

Creator of alt.jyotish and alt.religion.hindu
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

Cujo

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Sep 6, 2003, 4:25:56 PM9/6/03
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On 06 Sep 2003, you wrote in alt.astrology:

> In article <tKg6b.8365$Dg7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
> <viv.e...@verizon.net> posted:
>> What I've written is written. . . .
>
> You are not an astrologer. Real astrologers don't post anonymously.

Real astrologers aren't afraid to use their right name, Fucknozzle.

> You are very likely Prem Thomas who has published threats to
> murder astrologers. More about Prem Thomas here:

Lack of proof noted. Drama Queen posturing noted.


> Prem Thomas Publishes Death Threat Against Astrologers
>
> http://www.flex.com/~jai/articles/PremThomasThreat.html

K00KFIGHT!!!!!1!!!!!

Snoopy

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Sep 6, 2003, 4:46:37 PM9/6/03
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Johnny Judas Jay "Here's Prem, there's Prem, everywhere Prem" Maharaj wrote:

> In article <tKg6b.8365$Dg7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
> <viv.e...@verizon.net> posted:
>
>>What I've written is written. . . .
>
>
> You are not an astrologer. Real astrologers don't post anonymously.
> You are very likely Prem Thomas who has published threats to
> murder astrologers. More about Prem Thomas here:
>
> Prem Thomas Publishes Death Threat Against Astrologers
>

> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=68q17c%24jd8%40ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

If real astrologers don't post anonymously, Johnny boya, it follows that
you aren't a real astrologer. Vivek Eshwar is at least as real a name
and identity as yours. Besides, what does it matter whether he chooses
to post anonymously or not? Are you completely unable to debate the
context of posts? Are you interested only in harassing posters whose
opinions are contrary to yours? Is that why you need to know their
identities, you vicious bonehead maggot jyotishithead?

Got mangoes, boya?

el...@no.spam

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Sep 6, 2003, 7:03:09 PM9/6/03
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In article <Jyotish-00nm8...@news.mantra.com>,

Masturbator Jay Stevens calling himself Dr. Jai Maharaj <use...@mantra.com> wrote:

>You are not an astrologer. Real astrologers don't post anonymously.

You are not an astrologer, Jay. What you are is nothing but
a fucknozzel.

viv.e...@verizon.net

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Sep 6, 2003, 8:09:18 PM9/6/03
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Snoopy wrote:

The Brahmin has been offended, Snoop. We are supposed to don sackcloth
and ashes, and to present bloody flagellated backsides to be pissed on
by him. Why am I not impressed by this demand?

As above, so below.
viveshwar

Reginald Perrin

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use...@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote in message news:<Jyotish-00nm8...@news.mantra.com>...

> In article <tKg6b.8365$Dg7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
> <viv.e...@verizon.net> posted:
> > What I've written is written. . . .
>
> You are not an astrologer. Real astrologers don't post anonymously.
> You are very likely Prem Thomas who has published threats to
> murder astrologers. More about Prem Thomas here:

But you are posting anonymously! You are using a fake name.

See:-

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"Dr. Jai Maharaj" wrote:

> In article <dc401971.02102...@posting.google.com>,
> tsor...@attbi.com (Tsorovan) posted:
> > . . . Actually, the corporation which you claim to own . . .
>
> You have proved yourself a liar, anonymous coward/
> I have not claimed to own a corporation, as you falsely claim.

Explain this, liar

From a Hawaii state web site:
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NAME: MANTRA CORPORATION

STATUS: A
CONSENT:
SIM-NAME:
DATE-INC: 11/30/1990
TERM: PER
DATE-EXP:
ADDRESS: P. O. BOX 1919
WAIANAE HI 96792 6919
PURPOSE: BUSINESS CONSULTING, MARKETING,ADVERTISING AND RELATED
SERVICES

SEC DEALER:
VOTE:
VOTE DATE:
REPORTS=> CURR-YR: LAST-YR: 1993 PRIOR-YR: 1992
DELINQUENT:


OFFICERS AS OF 11/30/1990
------------------------------------------
STEVENS,JAY R POSITION: *P/S/D
MILLER,JOAN E POSITION: *V/T/D
STOCK AS OF 11/30/1990
---------------------------------------------
COMMON SHARES: 1,000 PAID IN:
1,000
PAR-VAL:
TRAN-DATE--ST-TYPE-REMARKS
-----------------------------------------
11/30/1990 C ART ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
=================================
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From: http://www.uwhois.com

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Registrant:
Mantra Corporation (MANTRA-DOM)
P. O. Box 1919
Honolulu
HI,96792-6919
US

Domain Name: MANTRA.COM

Administrative Contact:
Maharaj, Jai (JM225) j...@FLEX.COM
Mantra Corporation
P. O. Box 1919
Waianae, HI 96792-6919
US
(808) 581-8808
Technical Contact:
Wong, Del (DW403) d...@FLEX.COM
FlexNet Inc.
P.O.Box 22481
HONOLULU, HI 96822-2481
US
(808) 539-3790 (808) 539-3793

Record expires on 24-Apr-2006.
Record created on 23-Apr-1994.
Database last updated on 25-Oct-2002 00:57:19 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.VIRTUALWEBSITE.COM 206.126.0.254

NS2.VIRTUALWEBSITE.COM 206.126.0.253

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to
http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

Domain Name: MANTRA.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS2.VIRTUALWEBSITE.COM
Name Server: NS1.VIRTUALWEBSITE.COM
Updated Date: 05-nov-2001


>>> Last update of whois database: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:57:48 EDT <<<
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Well--shazam--that's the same address and corporate name, isn't it,
liar? But one says "Jay Stevens" and the
other says "Jai Maharaj". Hmmm... well,
well--*wonder* what that means?

Here's one of *your* web page urls, liar.
http://hometown.aol.com/Jyotishi/
<on the bottom of the page>
Copyright © 1997 Mantra Corporation. All Rights Reserved.

Why is this Copyright notice at the bottom? It's not on the Mantra
web site. It's on AOL. Why would you
Copyright your *writing*, with the Mantra Corporation
name, on a web site *not* related to mantra.com? We may never know.

Here's another one of your web page urls, liar.
http://www.flex.com/~jai/
<on the bottom of the page>
Copyright © 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000 Mantra
Corporation. All Rights Reserved. The information
contained at this site may not be published,
broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed, or stored without prior
written authority of Mantra Corporation.

Same thing on this page. Why is that, liar? It's not on the Mantra
Corporation web site, is it? No--it's on
flex.com. Why copyright it under the Mantra
Corporation name? How does that work, liar?

Cut the bullshit, liar. Mantra Corporation and mantra.com are your
creations. When you set up the
corporation, you did it with the name Jay Stevens. Now you
call yourself Jai Maharaj. But both names have the same stench,
because both names have the same source. Go
ahead--deny it--lie again, liar.

You're nothing but a fucking fraud and a fucking liar. But you
already know that--right--liar?

--
Paulo Joe Jingy

mr zapmaster

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Sep 7, 2003, 11:56:10 AM9/7/03
to
viv.e...@verizon.net wrote:

can anyone tell me what the nozzle is used to fuck or is this one of those
"you dont wanna know" deals?

kasha

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Sep 7, 2003, 8:04:18 PM9/7/03
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the anonomous poster who calls himself "DR. jai maharaj" has never shown

any kind of jyotish knowledge of his own, ALWAYS reposting other
people's material or making "predictions" with no theoretical back-up( a

sign of plagarism) like the statement he made recently that India would
be involved in a military conflict in August.
That is the kind of person who should not be calling themselves
astrologer in addition to the phony "Dr." etc etc etc-but do not take my

word for it:
http://www.geocities.com/drjosemariachi/jay_faq.html#bb

kasha

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Sep 7, 2003, 10:55:01 PM9/7/03
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Doctorat justified at last-honorus causa in paranoia and megalomania

http://www.geocities.com/drjosemariachi/jay_faq.html#bb

viv.e...@verizon.net

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Sep 9, 2003, 6:54:41 AM9/9/03
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Kasha, I would appreciate it if you would just back off of Jay. I
certainly don't want to be associated with your perpetual vendetta about
him. Yes, he's an imperfect human being. Yes, there is no real
evidence that he is a functioning Jyotishi.

But your stupid perpetual opposition serves nothing. There is no law in
the West or in Sanatana Dharma that says that a person can't tell a lie.
There are valid reasons for lying.

That Jay's reason's for lying may be unrealistic and even entirely
subjective are beside the point. Just get off it. This guy is not your
responsibility. He's entitled to represent himself the way he wahts
to. If you disagree with it, it's valid to say that. But it is NOT
valid or respectable to continue to throw this in all of our faces every
time he posts.

Jay is a Brahmin. that's indisputable, on the evidence of his online
behavior. You're supposed to have some sense about Brahmins, and that
is this: if you don't like them, or don't agree with them, you're
supposed to leave them alone. This is ancient wisdom about them.
There's just no point, and no payoff whatsoever, in picking stupid
unnecessary fights with them. This is nothing but a way of accumulating
perfectly dreadful karma.

Om Tryambakam Yajamahe
viveshwar

kasha

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Sep 9, 2003, 5:49:42 PM9/9/03
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I do not know how you can be sure this person is not just an Hindu- obsessed
"Anglo-American"
have you seen his material about Islam? if someone is a Brahmin they should be
undisturbed in disseminating hate literature?
Sanatana Dharma, specifically The Thirukkural says many things about
truthfulness, among them:
"Even falsehood is like truth
if it brings unblemished good"
292
and also about debate:
"It is useless for the coward to have a sharp sword
So are books for those who are afraid of facing the learned."
726
Please provide specific scriptural justification for your arguments.
I am listening to you, but I do not hear a convincing argument there yet in
terms either of scripture or otherwise.

Dr. Flonkenstein

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Sep 9, 2003, 9:05:24 PM9/9/03
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Being tired of lurking, on Tue, 09 Sep 2003 10:54:41 +0000, viv.eshwar
posted:

> Kasha, I would appreciate it if you would just back off of Jay.

Edmond, I would appreciate it if you would just back off of viv.eswar.
--
mhm 27x12
smeeter #27 (also)

Dr. Jai Maharaj

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Sep 9, 2003, 9:28:54 PM9/9/03
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In article <3F5BEF85...@sympatico.ca>,
kasha <steph...@sympatico.ca> posted:
> [...]

A previous name and address of the con artist "Kasha":

"Stefan Anderson" <shu...@sympatico.ca>

Current address:

"kasha" <steph...@sympatico.ca>

Posts from:

HSE-MTL-ppp69489.qc.sympatico.ca
HSE-MTL-ppp69210.qc.sympatico.ca

End of advisory

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer

http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

viv.e...@verizon.net

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Sep 13, 2003, 7:53:19 AM9/13/03
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Phoenix wrote:

> Probably for the same reason said Brahmin Fucknozzle was voted Kook of the Month.


>
> > can anyone tell me what the nozzle is used to fuck or is this one of those
> > "you dont wanna know" deals?
>

> It's a "you don't wanna know" deal.
>
>
Shit! You killed the thread Phoenix. Just when it was getting
interesting.

Om Tryambakam Yajamahe
viveshwar

viv.e...@verizon.net

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Sep 14, 2003, 8:40:25 AM9/14/03
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Phoenix wrote:

> Well geeze, since you told me I was killfiled I didn't think you'd notice!
>
I don't understand what my killfile has to do with a troll's soverign
right and duty to perpetrate truly worthless threads everywhere.

jeb the 6 toed hick

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Sep 14, 2003, 1:12:58 PM9/14/03
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viv.e...@verizon.net wrote:

deal with it

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