Belgium stands up for Justice( WAS: Re: Israel scorns 'anti-semit
Paul Abeles
"Platen Zeebock" <zpl...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, "R.J. Goldman" <rgol...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >They were separated by the people not by themselves,
>
> What self-serving horseshit! Ask a Jew, supposedly an American, who
> resides in America, whom he feels more of a kinship for: an American
> who is not a Jew, or a Jew who resides in, say, France. If he is
> honest, he will tell you that he feels closer to the Jew.
>
> Every Jew, wherever he lives, acts for the good of the Jewish people
> as his first priority, not for the good of the country of which he is
> supposedly a citizen.
>
> Once you realize that these people are, by their own choice, NOT your
> fellow-citizens, it make sense that they should be segregated,
> stripped of power and the right to own property, removed from the
> social and political life of your country, and _strongly_ encouraged
> to emigrate.
>
> Who wants a nation of parasites within their borders, people working
> for its own, separate, nation, but pretending to be citizens? The
> disabilities and segregation, imposed throughout history on Jews, make
> sense when you see the reason for it.
>
> >read your history books again .
That may be true of some Jews, it doesn't apply to all Jews.
The same thing could be said about Muslims.
Leonard Pulver
Platen Zeebock wrote:
>
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, "R.J. Goldman" <rgol...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >They were separated by the people not by themselves,
>
> What self-serving horseshit! Ask a Jew, supposedly an American, who
> resides in America, whom he feels more of a kinship for: an American
> who is not a Jew, or a Jew who resides in, say, France. If he is
> honest, he will tell you that he feels closer to the Jew.
>
You are the one full of horseshit.
You can not know what these people feel nor have you any
experience that might give you insights.
You are just a bigoted little putz, with diarrhea of the mouth
R.J. Goldman
See what a Euro trash education got you ?
NOTHING!!
"Platen Zeebock" <zpl...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, "R.J. Goldman" <rgol...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >They were separated by the people not by themselves,
>
> What self-serving horseshit! Ask a Jew, supposedly an American, who
> resides in America, whom he feels more of a kinship for: an American
> who is not a Jew, or a Jew who resides in, say, France. If he is
> honest, he will tell you that he feels closer to the Jew.
>
> Every Jew, wherever he lives, acts for the good of the Jewish people
> as his first priority, not for the good of the country of which he is
> supposedly a citizen.
>
> Once you realize that these people are, by their own choice, NOT your
> fellow-citizens, it make sense that they should be segregated,
> stripped of power and the right to own property, removed from the
> social and political life of your country, and _strongly_ encouraged
> to emigrate.
>
> Who wants a nation of parasites within their borders, people working
> for its own, separate, nation, but pretending to be citizens? The
> disabilities and segregation, imposed throughout history on Jews, make
> sense when you see the reason for it.
>
> >read your history books again .
> >
> >"VIVIDVANGO" <VIVID...@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:vbi3a.105184$x9.24...@twister.socal.rr.com...
> >>
> >> "R.J. Goldman" <rgol...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >> news:T8f3a.4774$RL1....@fe08.atl2.webusenet.com...
> >> > they considered themselves Belgian first. but the Nazis made sure it
got
> >> > switched. but what do you care. you are nothing but a moron.
> >>
> >> Neither of you can speak for how they felt, but Jews have been known
> >> throughout history to seperate themselves from the country and people
> >where
> >> the reside.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Terry Mosher
<pla...@redneck.gacracker.org> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Leonard Pulver <red...@gta.igs.net> wrote:
> >Platen Zeebock wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, "R.J. Goldman" <rgol...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >They were separated by the people not by themselves,
> >>
> >> What self-serving horseshit! Ask a Jew, supposedly an American, who
> >> resides in America, whom he feels more of a kinship for: an American
> >> who is not a Jew, or a Jew who resides in, say, France. If he is
> >> honest, he will tell you that he feels closer to the Jew.
> >>
> >You are the one full of horseshit.
> >
> >You can not know what these people feel nor have you any
> >experience that might give you insights.
>
> country, and are not loyal to it, or feel themselves a part of it, but
> give their primary allegience to the Jewish people.
>
> As for experience and insight into the thinking of Jews, one has only
> to live in the same society as they do to see that they regard
> themselves as 'guests' of their 'hosts' (there's a telling word for
> describing how they view their 'fellow-countrymen').
>
> >
> >You are just a bigoted little putz, with diarrhea of the mouth
>
>
Short, stupid and another coward hiding behind a remailer.
Go figure? Is that a pre-requisite for being an anti-Semitic dumbass?
R.J. Goldman
and then my religion. but if someone like you makes my religion a target
then all hell breaks loose
Shis Koof!
"Platen Zeebock" <pla...@nym.gacracker.org> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, "R.J. Goldman" <rgol...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >you are spouting Nazi Dr, bullshit.
>
> Try that sentence again.
>
> >See what a Euro trash education got you ?
> >NOTHING!!
>
> I notice you don't deny, you stupid Kike, that the first loyalty of
> Jews is to other Jews, and not to the country in which they happen to
> live.
R.J. Goldman
you have made the ass clown of the year!!
<pla...@redneck.gacracker.org> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Leonard Pulver <red...@gta.igs.net> wrote:
> >Platen Zeebock wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, "R.J. Goldman" <rgol...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >They were separated by the people not by themselves,
> >>
> >> What self-serving horseshit! Ask a Jew, supposedly an American, who
> >> resides in America, whom he feels more of a kinship for: an American
> >> who is not a Jew, or a Jew who resides in, say, France. If he is
> >> honest, he will tell you that he feels closer to the Jew.
> >>
> >You are the one full of horseshit.
> >
> >You can not know what these people feel nor have you any
> >experience that might give you insights.
>
> I notice you do not deny what I said: that Jews simply live in a
> country, and are not loyal to it, or feel themselves a part of it, but
> give their primary allegience to the Jewish people.
>
> As for experience and insight into the thinking of Jews, one has only
> to live in the same society as they do to see that they regard
> themselves as 'guests' of their 'hosts' (there's a telling word for
> describing how they view their 'fellow-countrymen').
>
> >
> >You are just a bigoted little putz, with diarrhea of the mouth
>
R.J. Goldman
dresses!
PLOINK!!
"platenz" <pla...@redneck.gacracker.org> wrote in message
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> What's with the name calling? I'm talking something very simple here:
> the Belgians finally got the balls to indict that fat pig Sharon (talk
> about Hermann Goering being fat - Sharon makes him look like Twiggy -
> and Hermann was a more decent human being than Sharon), and the kikes
> on this group don't like it and whine the Belgians didn't do enough
> during the war for the kikes.
>
> I am saying simply that the kikes in Belgium didn't deserve anything,
> except maybe to go to the concentration camps, because they regarded
> themselves as Jews first and as Belgians second, or maybe it was 99th.
> They were lucky the Belgians were stupid enough to give them the same
> civil rights as real citizens. At least the Germans were smarter and
> passed the Nuremberg laws to get the kikes out of any role in the
> society.
>
> I wish the Americans were half as smart as the Germans used to be when
> it comes to how to treat your kikes.
>
> Ask a Jew, supposedly an American, who resides in America, whom he
> feels more of a kinship for: an American who is not a Jew, or a Jew
> who resides in, say, France. If he is honest, he will tell you that he
> feels closer to the Jew.
>
> So, are you saying I am wrong?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hit1Hard
> Fucking Nazi wannabe hiding on the internet cause he's wearing his
> mothers dresses!
> PLOINK!!
Still hiding people that do things NOT allowed by their INS issued Tourist
VISA, Mr Goldman?
Does that make me an Anti-Semite or you a criminal with loyalties to
others then your country?
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pla...@redneck.gacracker.org wrote:
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> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Leonard Pulver <red...@gta.igs.net> wrote:
> >Platen Zeebock wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, "R.J. Goldman" <rgol...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >They were separated by the people not by themselves,
> >>
> >> What self-serving horseshit! Ask a Jew, supposedly an American, who
> >> resides in America, whom he feels more of a kinship for: an American
> >> who is not a Jew, or a Jew who resides in, say, France. If he is
> >> honest, he will tell you that he feels closer to the Jew.
> >>
> >You are the one full of horseshit.
> >
> >You can not know what these people feel nor have you any
> >experience that might give you insights.
>
> I notice you do not deny what I said: that Jews simply live in a
> country, and are not loyal to it, or feel themselves a part of it, but
> give their primary allegience to the Jewish people.
>
> As for experience and insight into the thinking of Jews, one has only
> to live in the same society as they do to see that they regard
> themselves as 'guests' of their 'hosts' (there's a telling word for
> describing how they view their 'fellow-countrymen').
>
> >
> >You are just a bigoted little putz, with diarrhea of the mouth
>
Andrzej
concerned. Any criticism of Israel is immediately decried as
antisemitism.
Zionists around the world are doing themselves great disservice by
pushing even the most moderate critics of Israel into the anti-semite
category.In many cases it turns out to be self-fulfilling wish.
In short , Zionism creates its own enemies.And then it cultivates them
and revels in seeing itself as a victim.Once this is established ,
zionism makes sure to advertise its supposed victimization calling on
all world to condemn it.It looks like clever manipulation.But in the
long run this stupid tactics will backfire in their
faces.Independently thinking people are already getting tired of this
game and express their growing impatience and anger.
I'm sure that vast majority of decent people would back a decent
Jewish state and we could co-exist happily.
Sadly it doesn't seem to be so . Israel's rabid ideologues do all they
can to confirm people's worst stereotypes of Jewish mentality.
Andrzej
Paul Abeles
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The Jewish Nationalist's Dictionary.
--
Anti-Semite: Someone who disagrees with you. Someone who questions the
meaning of anti-Semite
Self hating Jew: Someone who disagrees with you
R.J. Goldman
were used along with tons of others but you didn't look so you don't
care....
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R.J. Goldman
and you ass clown?
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R.J. Goldman
that was done long ago. when you suckled it from your fathers cock!
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Hit1Hard
> Just helping them get their papers.
> and you ass clown?
Helping them to get papers they need when they enter the country?
Oh wait they are just tourists eh? Sightseeing Malls.
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Hit1Hard
> no it doesn't make you an Anti Semite. that was done long ago. when you
> suckled it from your fathers cock!
Don't compare my youth experiences with your own.
How was it, did he beat you raw until you complied? Or were you kinda
"anxious"?
Btw, do you have a son?
--
Hit1Hard
Tilly
> I notice you do not deny what I said: that Jews simply live in a
> country, and are not loyal to it, or feel themselves a part of it, but
> give their primary allegience to the Jewish people.
What a load of bullshit.
Many Jews have been prepared to die for their prospective countries.
My father & grandfather to name two.
NB: My grandfather fought in the German army in WW1 .
> As for experience and insight into the thinking of Jews, one has only
> to live in the same society as they do to see that they regard
> themselves as 'guests' of their 'hosts' (there's a telling word for
> describing how they view their 'fellow-countrymen').
More bullshit.
You obviously have an inferiority complex.
It's no wonder!
You are such a disgusting animal I doubt anyone of any substance can stand
to be around you.
Tilly
Tilly
> I notice you don't deny, you stupid Kike, that the first loyalty of
> Jews is to other Jews, and not to the country in which they happen to
> live.
Jews are generally extremely loyal to the country in which they live & are
prepared to die for it.
However if they are discriminated against on the basis of the fact they are
Jewish then watch out. But then that is no different form others-Muslims for
example.
I would suggest there are a hell of a lot more Jews serving in the US armed
forces than Muslims.
Tilly
Paul Abeles
"Tilly" <climb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Yes I'd like to know the stats. there.
I believe there would be less Jews because Jews in the US are generally in
the higher socio economic groups which as a rule have more
professional/academic careers.
Paul Abeles
> platenz wrote:
> > I notice you do not deny what I said: that Jews simply live in a
> > country, and are not loyal to it, or feel themselves a part of it, but
> > give their primary allegience to the Jewish people.
>
>
> What a load of bullshit.
> Many Jews have been prepared to die for their prospective countries.
> My father & grandfather to name two.
> NB: My grandfather fought in the German army in WW1 .
Did he know Hitler?
Tilly
> Did he know Hitler?
Not in WW1.
He knew him loud & clearly from the 1920's and not in a pleasant way.
Tilly
Tilly
> I believe there would be less Jews because Jews in the US are
> generally in the higher socio economic groups which as a rule have
> more professional/academic careers.
You realise one of Aussies great military men was a Jew.
There's a uni named after him..... :-)
Tilly
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nmm
>You realise one of Aussies great military men was a Jew.
>There's a uni named after him..... :-)
>
"great military men" is an oxymoron
nmm
what America should be about than most people
Leonard Pulver
and you are an ignoramus.
Peter Glasų
"platenz" <pla...@redneck.gacracker.org> wrote in
> I am saying simply that the kikes in Belgium didn't deserve anything,
> except maybe to go to the concentration camps, because they regarded
> themselves as Jews first and as Belgians second, or maybe it was 99th.
> They were lucky the Belgians were stupid enough to give them the same
> civil rights as real citizens. At least the Germans were smarter and
> passed the Nuremberg laws to get the kikes out of any role in the
> society.
>
> I wish the Americans were half as smart as the Germans used to be when
> it comes to how to treat your kikes.
>
> Ask a Jew, supposedly an American, who resides in America, whom he
> feels more of a kinship for: an American who is not a Jew, or a Jew
> who resides in, say, France. If he is honest, he will tell you that he
> feels closer to the Jew.
You nazi pig - you should MOVE to Belgium,you would probably like it there.
Free Palestine
>
> "Tilly" <climb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%yD3a.89851$F63.1...@news.xtra.co.nz...
> > Platen Zeebock wrote:
> > > I notice you don't deny, you stupid Kike, that the first loyalty of
> > > Jews is to other Jews, and not to the country in which they happen to
> > > live.
> >> >
> > Jews are generally extremely loyal to the country in which they live & are
> > prepared to die for it.
> > However if they are discriminated against on the basis of the fact they
> are
> > Jewish then watch out. But then that is no different form others-Muslims
> for
> > example.
> > I would suggest there are a hell of a lot more Jews serving in the US
> armed
> > forces than Muslims.
> >
> > Tilly
>
> Yes I'd like to know the stats. there.
In the Gulf War, of 600,000 US soldiers, only 500 were Jews. This is
less than .1%. Therefore, Jews were about 20 times less likely to fight
in the Gulf War than Americans in general. This has been going on, but
to a lesser degree, for a long time, in every US war, including the
Civil War. Yes, even World War II, the war the Jews were screaming at
us to get go fight in. :(
>
> I believe there would be less Jews because Jews in the US are generally in
> the higher socio economic groups which as a rule have more
> professional/academic careers.
That is probably it. I am not sure if there are other factors.
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Paul Abeles
> Paul Abeles wrote:
> > Did he know Hitler?
>
> Not in WW1.
> He knew him loud & clearly from the 1920's and not in a pleasant way.
>
> Tilly
You never know that's why I asked the question. Hitler did have some Jews he
respected and protected.
Paul Abeles
Indeed I do. Sir John Monash, also a golf course in Sydney.
The first Australian born GG was a Jew. Sir Isaac Isaacs
Susan Cohen
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"platenz" <pla...@redneck.gacracker.org> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, "R.J. Goldman" <rgol...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >No you lousy shit banger. my first loyalty is to defend myself my country
>
> Sure, you live in the US, but do you regard that as 'my country', or
> is it that little pisspot of a country in the Mideast, Israel, that
> you regard as 'my country'?
>
> But how about answering my question, instead of dancing around it:
>
> Who do you feel more of a kinship for: an American who is not a Jew,
> or a Jew who resides in, say, France?
>
> I don't think you, or any other kike, will answer the question.
The only kike here is you.
Susan Cohen
> concerned.
No, it's difficult to pretend one is when one is not.
Any criticism of Israel is immediately decried as
> antisemitism.
Not any, just that which is.
> Zionists around the world are doing themselves great disservice by
> pushing even the most moderate critics of Israel into the anti-semite
> category.
Which we aren't.
xodus
Laden and Hussein , or do they only go after Jews? Of all the
dictators in the world who kill people directly, the biggest enemy of
Belgium is an elected official who is perhaps *indirectly* responsible
for crimes by Lebanese Christian militias (in response to PLO abuses
and attacks).
Susan Cohen
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> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Leonard Pulver <red...@gta.igs.net> wrote:
> >Platen Zeebock wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, "R.J. Goldman" <rgol...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >They were separated by the people not by themselves,
> >>
> >> What self-serving horseshit! Ask a Jew, supposedly an American, who
> >> resides in America, whom he feels more of a kinship for: an American
> >> who is not a Jew, or a Jew who resides in, say, France. If he is
> >> honest, he will tell you that he feels closer to the Jew.
> >>
> >You are the one full of horseshit.
> >
> >You can not know what these people feel nor have you any
> >experience that might give you insights.
>
> I notice you do not deny what I said: that Jews simply live in a
> country, and are not loyal to it, or feel themselves a part of it, but
> give their primary allegience to the Jewish people.
He doesn't have to deny it; you have to prove it.
>
> As for experience and insight into the thinking of Jews, one has only
> to live in the same society as they do to see that they regard
> themselves as 'guests' of their 'hosts' (there's a telling word for
> describing how they view their 'fellow-countrymen').
You are, of course, a liar.
>
> >
> >You are just a bigoted little putz, with diarrhea of the mouth
>
> I think I kept it short and to the point, kikeface.
Only to the point at the empty top of what passes for your head.
>
>
>
>
Susan Cohen
"nmm" <voxmhan(spam)@arvotek.net> wrote in message
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> How about Noam Chomsky.. I believe he contributes more to the spirit of
> what America should be about than most people
Well, that says it all about you, then.
Not that I'm surprised.
*replonk*
R.J. Goldman
the did not want Jews on their lands so the U.S. bent to the requests.
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R.J. Goldman
BYE BYE!!
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Tilly
> I am sure the only reason he was in the army was because he was
> drafted. And the first thing Granddad did was find the other kikes in
> his outfit and whine about how they were 'their' guests, and would
> have to make the best of it.
Actually he volounteered.
>
> You are a Jew, supposedly an American, who resides in America.
I am not American & I don't live in America.
Whom do
> you feel more of a kinship for: an American who is not a Jew, or a Jew
> who resides in, say, France?
The question is irrelevant.
Tilly
L Alpert
"Free Palestine" <dea...@israel.con> wrote in message
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Care to show us where these numbers came from?
Try this:
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/historical_information/jews.html
Seems that out of a total poulation of 150K, almost 10K Jews served in the
civil war, or about 7-8% of the total.
There goes your fallacy. Some "masters"....
> >
> > I believe there would be less Jews because Jews in the US are generally
in
> > the higher socio economic groups which as a rule have more
> > professional/academic careers.
>
> That is probably it. I am not sure if there are other factors.
Well, of course it is a mitigating factor. Look at Clinton. Where did he
server? How about GWB Jr.? College defermits for
Vietnam......Socio-economic status has always been a factor for any group.
You are not sure of the other factors since you haven't made them up yet.
jjonah
The "other factors" are simply igorance and intolerance. Period, no
if's and or but's.
Religion is such a bullshit excuse for ANY conflict. What the fuck is
wrong with you people? If I choose to worship (put deity here), I'll
do it. If you don't believe what I believe, that is your right. But
to tell me what to believe, well, you can simply kiss my ass. (since
I live in the states, I can say that... try saying THAT under the old
taliban regime)
I *will* fight to protect my freedoms, (unlike certain religions in
which it's their way or no way) AND I will fight to protect the right
for ANY type of belief to exist. period.
Kristof Plovie
- Mautitanian President Maaouya ould Sid'Ahmed Taya
- Iraqi President Saddam Hussein
- Ivory Coast President Laurent Gbagbo
- Rwandan President Paul Kagame
- Cuban President Fidel Castro
- Central African Republic President Ange-Felix Patassé
- Republic of Congo President Denis Sassou Nguesso
- Palestinian Authority President Yassir Arafat
- former Chadian President Hissčne Habré
- former Chilean President Gen. Augusto Pinochet
- former Iranian President Hashemi Rafsanjani
- former Moroccan interior mnister Dris Basri
- former Congolese Foreign Minister Abdoulaye Yerodia Ndombasi
- among others...
just for your information...
Kristof Plovie
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)@eol.ca nmm
being used to launch this War on Iraq"
They are within striking distance. Why is it so essential to launch
attacks from Turkey?
Douglas Berry
<pla...@redneck.gacracker.org> warmed at our fire and told this
tale:
>Ask a Jew, supposedly an American, who resides in America, whom he
>feels more of a kinship for: an American who is not a Jew, or a Jew
>who resides in, say, France. If he is honest, he will tell you that he
>feels closer to the Jew.
I asked my mother in law. She's an American who happens to be Jewish.
>So, are you saying I am wrong?
Yes.
--
Douglas E. Berry grid...@mindspring.com
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
Douglas Berry
<pla...@redneck.gacracker.org> warmed at our fire and told this
tale:
>Ask a Jew, supposedly an American, who resides in America, whom he
>feels more of a kinship for: an American who is not a Jew, or a Jew
>who resides in, say, France. If he is honest, he will tell you that he
>feels closer to the Jew.
>
>So, are you saying I am wrong?
Ask these guys:
http://www.homeofheroes.com/e-books/mohE_jewish/list.html
Douglas Berry
>I am sure the only reason he was in the army was because he was
>drafted. And the first thing Granddad did was find the other kikes in
>his outfit and whine about how they were 'their' guests, and would
>have to make the best of it.
How are you sure of this?
>You are a Jew, supposedly an American, who resides in America. Whom do
>you feel more of a kinship for: an American who is not a Jew, or a Jew
>who resides in, say, France?
The French? Sheesh!
As an American, my kinship is for my family and nation.
keystone Peddler
"> >Ask a Jew, supposedly an American, who resides in America, whom he
> >feels more of a kinship for: an American who is not a Jew, or a Jew
> >who resides in, say, France. If he is honest, he will tell you that he
> >feels closer to the Jew.
> >
> >So, are you saying I am wrong?
>
> Ask these guys:
>
> http://www.homeofheroes.com/e-books/mohE_jewish/list.html
>
Irish Americans, Italo-American, Afro-Americans
But with Jews it is America first: American Jews.
F u s t i g a t o r r
Feb 2003 05:25:31 +1300, in littera
<2YO3a.90819$F63.1...@news.xtra.co.nz> in foro soc.culture.belgium
(et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>platenz wrote:
>> I am sure the only reason he was in the army was because he was
>> drafted. And the first thing Granddad did was find the other kikes in
>> his outfit and whine about how they were 'their' guests, and would
>> have to make the best of it.
>
>Actually he volounteered.
>>
>> You are a Jew, supposedly an American, who resides in America.
>
>I am not American & I don't live in America.
Indeed, this person lives in New Zealand.
>
>Whom do
>> you feel more of a kinship for: an American who is not a Jew, or a Jew
>> who resides in, say, France?
>
>The question is irrelevant.
>
>Tilly
Fusti
R.J. Goldman
"Douglas Berry" <grid...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Nicolas Benicoeur
Considering how good America has been to the Jews and their apartheid Jewish
State, it is not exactly surprising is it?
Douglas Berry
"R.J. Goldman" <rgol...@bellsouth.net> warmed at our fire and told
this tale:
>POINT SET AND MATCH!!
>
>"Douglas Berry" <grid...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:r2pv4v4kk4ma50pcc...@4ax.com...
>> Ask these guys:
>>
>> http://www.homeofheroes.com/e-books/mohE_jewish/list.html
Thank you. I'd jump the net, but then I'd hurt myself.
Douglas Berry
Zeebock <pla...@redneck.gacracker.org> warmed at our fire and told
this tale:
>The designation implies the opposite of what you think it does:
>American Jews, French Jews, German Jews; the root of each one is
>'Jews'; the implication is that they are Jews first, and Americans, or
>French, or German, second.
>
>For Irish Americans, Italo-Americans, and so on, for just about every
>other ethnic group, the root is 'Americans'.
Do, tell me about these things:
The Congress of American Catholics
American Christians
Seen both of those phrasesm in print, in the last two days.
Dr. Flonkenstein
in an ultimate attempt to be funny
and witty at once, that summum of the evolution
of human race, Platen Zeebock <pla...@redneck.gacracker.org> wrote:
>The designation implies the opposite of what you think it does:
>American Jews, French Jews, German Jews; the root of each one is
>'Jews'; the implication is that they are Jews first, and Americans, or
>French, or German, second.
>
>For Irish Americans, Italo-Americans, and so on, for just about every
>other ethnic group, the root is 'Americans'.
>
>
It is well known that to be called "Goldman" in a far away village in Germany
one had to have only one tooth in ones mouth to be called "Goldman",
on the condition that the remaining tooth was in gold, well understood!
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The Holy Kafir is jealous about my sig in Msg. Nr
<b29s61$ced0$1...@news3.infoave.net> :
"You have a rather large ego. It is quite amusing. Do you think you can add
any more to your signature and header to support your vanity?"
Paul Abeles
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xx_attbi.com> wrote in message
news:JIP3a.125200$SD6.6358@sccrnsc03...
Well fancy that. However the total enrolled of all Americans were 3.8
million. Population 34.3 million.
Ratio: 11.1% So based on your figures Jews didn't pull their weight.
http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/other/stats/warcost.htm
Dr. Flonkenstein
in an ultimate attempt to be funny
and witty at once, that summum of the evolution
>On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:20:51 -0500, a wanderer, known to us only as
>"R.J. Goldman" <rgol...@bellsouth.net> warmed at our fire and told
>this tale:
>
>>POINT SET AND MATCH!!
>>
>>"Douglas Berry" <grid...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>news:r2pv4v4kk4ma50pcc...@4ax.com...
>
>>> Ask these guys:
>>>
>>> http://www.homeofheroes.com/e-books/mohE_jewish/list.html
>
>Thank you. I'd jump the net, but then I'd hurt myself.
Warning, the so-called Mr Goldman is an imposter who has never
stopped to put the jewish people into an embarrasing position
by his postings. His only purpose is to denigrate the jewish
people by posting hateful content in their name.
>--
>
>Douglas E. Berry grid...@mindspring.com
>http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/
>
>"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
> when they do it from religious conviction."
> Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
--
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amigocabal
by James Brooks
December 7, 2002
US officials recently announced the somewhat jarring news that Israeli
security forces will be training American soldiers in the techniques
of urban warfare. Apparently Israel's illegal thirty-five year
occupation of Palestine has enabled it to perfect tactics that our
troops will need in a 'possible' war on Iraq.
Most informed Americans will receive this news with a sense of both
foreboding and dislocation. The brutal tactics of the Israeli
"Defense" Forces have been denounced for decades by human rights
groups, the United Nations, and scores of foreign governments. Is this
how we want our own troops to fight? Our sense of dislocation (even
"topsy-turvy") in greeting this news traces to something else; the
fact that Israel has always been our client, not the other way around.
Why are the Israelis now teaching us?
Is this really something new, or is it merely an unusually explicit
lesson in the continuing education of American power by the Israeli
vanguard? Who has been learning from whom in this "special
relationship"?
From Covert Crimes to Points of Pride
Over the past half century, Israel's organized terror against
Palestinian civilians has moved from the relatively secret operations
of special Israeli army and paramilitary units to globally televised
depredations wrought with helicopter gunships, state-of-the-art tanks,
and F-16 fighters. In the process, massacres like those perpetrated in
the old days by Israeli army units at Deir Yassin and Qibya have been
dwarfed, in terms of casualties, scope, and property damage, by
today's daily and indiscriminate destruction in the Occupied
Palestinian Territories. Crimes that Israel once felt compelled to
hide from the world are now on full display, vigorously defended by
the Israeli government.
Fifty years ago, America also felt the need to conduct most of its
international crimes far from public view. Interventions in the
affairs of uncooperative nations (invariably conducted to "fight
communism") were mostly secretive, CIA-led actions that made
surreptitious use of special military units, typically called
"American advisors" (Honduras, Guatemala, Iran, and Cuba provide a few
relevant examples).
Now, emboldened by the demise of its only global counterweight, the
Soviet Union, and encouraged by Israel's success in using conventional
military forces in a public and illegal campaign against civilians,
the US is increasingly eschewing the old "secret war" model in favor
of direct and open military intervention with American troops. Witness
Somalia, Haiti, Yugoslavia, and Afghanistan during the past ten years.
Pre-emptive Action
Israel has long been criticized for taking pre-emptive military action
against its perceived enemies. Two well-known examples are its
surprise attack against a nearly-completed Iraqi nuclear power plant
and its protracted, illegal and bloody occupation of southern Lebanon.
Despite worldwide criticism of these and many other blatant violations
of international law, Israel continued, and continues, undaunted.
The Clinton administration was noted for its fawning support of
Israel's occupation, and for abandoning a long-standing US commitment
(on paper only, of course) to return Palestine to its pre-1967
borders. Clinton also took a big page out of Israel's book on
international relations, when he insisted, against strenuous
objections from the United Nations, that the US has the right to
launch pre-emptive strikes, and that NATO had the right to wage war on
Yugoslavia without UN approval. This year, the Bush administration
dropped all pretense of maintaining security with deterrence and
adopted the illegal Israeli standard of pre-emptive strikes as
official US policy.
Militarization of Politics
Our politicians have also learned much by example from our close and
"special" relationship with the government of Israel. For decades, our
pols have used cant, dissimulation and fraud to excuse Israel's most
egregious crimes. In the process, much has been learned about how to
turn acts of wanton destruction into a noble defense of freedom.
Israel's willingness to keep 'pushing the envelope' of state terror
has been invaluable in this process, training both American pols and
media in the arts of propaganda required to justify ever-larger
crimes.
Meanwhile, the American populace has been steadily learning to accept
Israel's gross violations of human rights, international law, and
common decency as
"necessary for peace and security", justified by "Israel's right to
defend herself". This lesson in moral decay and desensitization is
proving handy indeed, as the current US administration seeks to extend
American hegemony in the Middle East by a new war of occupation.
The Terror Card
Following the tragedy of 9/11, Israel immediately recast its
thirty-five-year occupation of Palestine as an essential front in the
"war on terror". To extract maximum political advantage from our loss
and grief, Israeli politicians like Ariel Sharon suggested, with
typical touches of arrogance and self-satisfaction, that, finally,
Americans know how Israelis have felt for years. We face a common and
implacable enemy, they lectured us, leaving unspoken the message that
we Americans had better develop some backbone and put our shoulder to
the anti-terror wheel.
Of course, our politicians did not really require Israel's instruction
to convert our tragedy into their political windfall. However, they
quickly employed several rhetorical devices that, before 9/11, were
most often found in Israel's political toolbox (domestic and foreign).
Suddenly, all kinds of international and domestic issues were
redefined as being part of the "war on terror", requiring new and
drastic solutions that were, of course, necessary for "security", and
often highly profitable for favored corporate interests.
No doubt our leaders saw major advantages to this radical
simplification of world affairs. First, they could dispense with even
the pretense of negotiation, because "you cannot negotiate with
terrorists". They could neatly sidestep, or simply dispose of, human
rights limitations imposed by law and the Constitution, because
"terrorists have no respect for the rule of law". The "terror card"
also enabled them to bulldoze public opposition to new and highly
intrusive government surveillance, and so on.
Remote Funding
Just as Israel depends on billions of dollars annually from a
compliant US government to maintain its military occupation and
indifference to UN resolutions and international law, America's power
axis also thrives on a steady flow of wealth from a similarly remote
and supine source – the American people. And just as Israel
makes it a point to occasionally disobey the orders of its US
sponsors, so American politicians at the pinnacle of power pointedly
disregard the many voices of the people that call for justice and
peace. During consideration of the recent Congressional resolution
supporting war on Iraq, Democracy Now reported that citizen messages
to Congressional offices of both chambers and both sides of the aisle
were running 10 to 1 against the resolution. Naturally, both the House
and Senate passed the measure by overwhelming margins. The reply to
the American public was clear; "We watch our push-polls. Pay your
taxes and shut up."
Injustice at Home
Even within its own pre-1967 borders, Israel's human rights record is
abysmal. Twenty percent of Israel's population is now comprised of
non-Jewish Arabs who, by law, are systematically rendered second-class
citizens in their own homeland. Special hells in Israel's complex
legal and social caste system are reserved for Bedouins and African
Jews. Israel's stubborn insistence on the primacy of the "Jewish
state" and its institutionalized discrimination against non-Jews have
set poor examples for America, where Israel is routinely hailed as a
shining example of "Western democracy". We cannot quantify the
debasing effects of this mass fantasy, but we can see that while
America's own system of minority repression becomes increasingly
severe, the public is told that pride in America's "liberty and
equality for all" is at an all-time high.
Occupation
Israel's long war of attrition against the Palestinians has proven to
America's power elite that it is possible to indefinitely occupy the
land of another people, even in the face of nearly global opposition
– if you're backed by enough raw power. The West Bank and the
Gaza Strip constitute a kind of open-air laboratory and lecture hall,
in which Israel demonstrates the advantages of occupation to its
dutiful American pupil. These advantages include a dirt-cheap labor
pool that can be turned on and off at will, the ability to emasculate
and/or decapitate any effort at self-rule within the occupied lands,
the utility of occupation as an object lesson and divisive
thorn-in-the-side of neighboring enemies, and so on. Israel has also
demonstrated the usefulness of sustained occupation for increasing a
nation's overall military might. The constant war-footing, and the
need for violent repression of a restive and disenfranchised people,
create never-ending opportunities for the purchase and use of the
latest military equipment, and for the containment of domestic
politics.
One Lesson Not Learned?
While American power has in general been a very attentive student of
Israeli policy and practice, there is one crucial lesson at the back
of Israel's textbook that remains unlearned: Israel's approach will
never create peace or achieve a just solution. Of course, that suits
its purposes. The point of Israeli strategy is to grind the
Palestinians into dust until they just blow away, and the last shreds
of Palestine can be swept up into Greater Israel, always the goal of
the military Zionists and their Laborite alter egos.
Unless forced to do otherwise, Israel, driven by a tragic and
fundamentally racist ideology, will fight on for a hundred years to
dispose of the "Palestinian problem". But American attempts to apply
the localized Israeli model (designed to acquire land the size of
Rhode Island) to a "global war on terror" are rewriting the definition
of "over-reach". By following Israel's lead (which is constitutionally
averse to just solutions) in the "war on terror", we ensure that the
war will never be won and will never end. Increasingly, we suspect
that our leaders may understand this lesson, too. And they're getting
ready to send another 14 billion dollars in shiny red apples
(disguised as new loan guarantees and military aid) to their beloved
teachers in Jerusalem.
James Brooks of Worcester, Vermont is former marketing director of
Vita-Flex Nutrition and was founding vice-president of the National
Association of Equine Supplement Manufacturers. Past articles have
been published on the NileMedia Web site. Currently Mr. Brooks serves
as webmaster for Vermonters for a Just Peace in Palestine/Israel and
publishes News Links, a daily e-mail digest of Middle East news and
commentary. Brooks is also a member of the national Al-Awda
Co-ordinating Committee.
Refer to the following URL for the links that were embedded in the
above article:
Free Palestine
This is what I have heard. There was a referenced document on the Web
(not sure if it was an article or a book), where the fellow went through
all the US Wars, starting with Civil, and found that, yes, Jews fought
at a lesser rate than their general population in each of them. That
did not really bother me, as I figured it is just the rich getter out of
the fight, the way they always do. Wars are started by groups of rich
old men. They send poor young men to go fight another group of poor
young men who have been sent off by their rich old men. And most wars
are about money, or the equivalent (land, resources). Or power, and
that and money, land, resources have often gone together.
Whether there is a loyalty thing involved too, I have no idea
whatsoever. Really, one would have to compare Jews to another upper
socioeconomic group of Gentiles, control for socioec status, and go from
there. I don't think anyone has ever done that.
Jews certainly don't shirk in Israel, so we can trash any "inherently
meek, timid culture" theories right there. :D
Paul Abeles
"Free Palestine" <dea...@israel.con> wrote in message
Sabras are a different fish to those in the galut.
Tilly
>>
> It is well known that to be called "Goldman" in a far away village in
> Germany one had to have only one tooth in ones mouth to be called
> "Goldman",
> on the condition that the remaining tooth was in gold, well
> understood!
You realise of course that Jews were forced to take such names?
By the good Christians of Germany.
Tilly
Tilly
> POINT SET AND MATCH!!
I'm sure Niclarse hasn't even bothered to look RJ. Truth isn't something he
seeks.
Tilly
climb...@hotmail.com
Tilly
> Cases have been filed before the belgian court against the following
> people:
>
> - Mautitanian President Maaouya ould Sid'Ahmed Taya
> - Iraqi President Saddam Hussein
> - Ivory Coast President Laurent Gbagbo
> - Rwandan President Paul Kagame
> - Cuban President Fidel Castro
> - Central African Republic President Ange-Felix Patassé
> - Republic of Congo President Denis Sassou Nguesso
> - Palestinian Authority President Yassir Arafat
> - former Chadian President Hissčne Habré
> - former Chilean President Gen. Augusto Pinochet
> - former Iranian President Hashemi Rafsanjani
> - former Moroccan interior mnister Dris Basri
> - former Congolese Foreign Minister Abdoulaye Yerodia Ndombasi
> - among others...
LOL.
That should keep your lawyers busy for a very long time and line their
pockets!
Tilly
Tilly
> Paul Abeles wrote:
> Jews certainly don't shirk in Israel, so we can trash any "inherently
> meek, timid culture" theories right there. :D
Exactement!
Tilly
--
climb...@hotmail.com
Tilly
> Sabras are a different fish to those in the galut.
You know a lot of Sabras?
Tilly
Nicolas Benicoeur
> pockets!
The legal profession is an inherently Jewish one, even in Belgium.
Susan Cohen
From: "Dr. Flonkenstein " <gregoriy_...@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.journalism,alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.belgium,soc.culture.israel,soc.cul
ture.jewish
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Jews Have No Loyalty To The Countries They Live In
> On the immemorial day 17 Feb 2003 02:22:45 +0100,
> in an ultimate attempt to be funny
> and witty at once, that summum of the evolution
> of human race, Platen Zeebock <pla...@redneck.gacracker.org> wrote:
>
> >The designation implies the opposite of what you think it does:
> >American Jews, French Jews, German Jews; the root of each one is
> >'Jews'; the implication is that they are Jews first, and Americans, or
> >French, or German, second.
If this is so, it is only due to bigots who refuse to allow us to be
anything else.
> >
> >For Irish Americans, Italo-Americans, and so on, for just about every
> >other ethnic group, the root is 'Americans'.
> >
> >
> It is well known that to be called "Goldman" in a far away village in
Germany
> one had to have only one tooth in ones mouth to be called "Goldman",
> on the condition that the remaining tooth was in gold, well understood!
I suppose that could have been one way to get the name.
Susan
--
The bunk stops here
Tilly
Jerry Springer Bin Laden show i.e the God chosen jew
***************************************************************************
God bless the Jews for helping Osama bin Laden!
The Bible states that any nation that supports Israel will be blessed.
Well,Jews are blessing America the Christians nation too.
Quotes from Reverend Billy Graham spiritual leader to George W. Bush
and former President Nixon tapes:
The released tapes have been edited and pruned. But Haldeman kept a
diary of the conversation. After Reverend Billy Graham left, Nixon
told his henchman: "You know it was good we got this point about the
Jews across . . .
the Jews are an irreligious, atheistic, ""immoral bunch of bastards.""
As Haldeman records, Graham had earlier observed that ""the Bible says
there are satanic Jews"" and there's where our problem arises". That
problem was "the total Jewish domination of the media . . . this was
something that would have to be dealt with."-Dawn/The Guardian News
Service.
Graham begins by advising Nixon on campaign strategy. The evangelist
has been invited to lunch at Time magazine. "You better take your
Jewish beanie" (yarmulke), Haldeman jokes. Nixon is in darker mood. He
broaches something that "we can't talk about publicly" - Jewish
influence in the media. All the big news organs are "totally dominated
by the Jews". Graham agrees, adding, piously, that it is the Jews "who
are putting out the """""pornographic stuff""""""".
This stranglehold has got to be broken or this country's going down
the """drain,"""'' Billy Graham said,
God bless the Jews for helping Osama bin Laden to destroy America!
God chosen Jews in porn !!!!
Jews dominate the production and distribution of porn. Leading
pornographers with Jewish names include Wesley Emerson, Paul Fishbein,
Herbert Feinberg a.k.a. Mickey Fine, Lenny Friedlander, Bobby
Hollander, Rubin Gottesman, Fred Hirsch and his children Steve and
Marjorie, Paul "Norman" Apstein, Steve Orenstein, Theodore Rothstein,
Reuben and
David Sturman, Ron Sullivan, Sam and Mitch Weston (Spinelli).
Jews accounted for most of the leading male performers of the 1970's
and '80's. Hebrew studs include Buck Adams, Bobby Astyr, R. Bolla
(Richard Parnes), Jerry Butler (Paul Siderman), Seymour Butts (Adam
Glaser),David Christopher (Bernie Cohen), Steve Drake, Jesse Eastern,
Jamie
Gillis, Ron Jeremy (Hyatt), Michael Knight, Ashley Moore, David
Morris, George
Payne, Ed Powers (Mark Arnold), Harry Reems (Herbert Streicher), Dave
Ruby, Herschel Savage, Carter Stevens (Mal Whorb), Marc Stevens, Paul
Thomas (Phil Tobias), Marc Wallice, Randy West and Jack Wrangler.
Jewish female performers include Avalon, Jenny Baxter (Jenny Wexler),
Busty Belle (Tracy Praeger), Chelsea Blake, Tiffany Blake, Bunny Bleu,
Lee Carroll (Leslie Barns), Blair Castle/Brooke Fields (Allison
Shandibal), Courtney/Natasha/Eden (Natasha Zimmerman), Daphne (Daphne
Franks),Barbara Dare (Stacy Mitnick), April Diamond, Jeanna Fine,
Alexis Gold,
Tern Hall,Heather Hart, Nina Hartley, C. J. Laing (Wendy Miller),
Frankie Leigh (Cynthia Hope Geller), Gloria Leonard, Traci Lords (Nora
Louise
Kuzman), Amber Lynn, Tonisha Mills, Melissa Monet, Susan Nero,
Scarlett 0.(Catherine Goldberg), Tawny Pearl (Susan Pearlman), Nina
Preta, Tracey Prince, Janey Robbins (Robin Lieberman), Alexandra Silk,
Susan Sloan, Annie Sprinkle (Ellen Steinberg), Karen Summer (Dana
Alper), Zara Whites and Ona Zee(Ona Simms).
God bless the Jews!
Paul Abeles
> Paul Abeles wrote:
> > Sabras are a different fish to those in the galut.
>
> You know a lot of Sabras?
>
> Tilly
A few. They are generally uninhibited and larrikinish.
They fit in easily in Australia.
L Alpert
"Paul Abeles" <abe...@achoo.com> wrote in message
news:xZX3a.49246$jM5.1...@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
With an emphasis on education and a higher percentage of the total
population having a higher socio-economic status, it is only normal to see
this difference.
Look at the difference between American and Israeli numbers for current
education statistics.
http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/ancestry/table_01.txt
So your figures don't show the whole story.
Pick war participants by socio-economic status and see where the highest
percentage comes from. I am not condoning it, it is just a historical fact,
if you have the cash, you most likely won't have to go.
L Alpert
"Free Palestine" <dea...@israel.con> wrote in message
As I have posted before, breakdown the participants of war by socio economic
status only and see where the highest percentage comes in.
Then look at the education numbers between American and Israeli persons
http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/ancestry/table_01.txt
See what makes sense. I would think that someone in the industry with a
masters would have some sort of idea how to investigate these things. No
wonder you bitch about your industry, everyone else has a leg up on you.
>
> Whether there is a loyalty thing involved too, I have no idea
> whatsoever. Really, one would have to compare Jews to another upper
> socioeconomic group of Gentiles, control for socioec status, and go from
> there. I don't think anyone has ever done that.
See above. Socio-economic status is the key for participation in war.
Reference college defemits during Vietnam. Many people had to go if they
could not afford going to school.
http://www.lrp-cofi.org/PR/VietnamPR45.html
L Alpert
> > That should keep your lawyers busy for a very long time and line their
> > pockets!
>
> The legal profession is an inherently Jewish one, even in Belgium.
>
>
So ask your self why.....
Paul Abeles
I acknowledged that already.
L Alpert
Which makes the differences in percentages that you post moot. Looking at
the overall numbers, looking at the educational statistics and weighted the
percent of soldiers by socio-economic factors, the Jewish population most
likely has had more than their fair share of participants.
F u s t i g a t o r r
Feb 2003 22:33:37 +1300, in littera
<S%14a.92226$F63.1...@news.xtra.co.nz> in foro soc.culture.belgium
(et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
There were not good, but still less bad as the nazis.
>Tilly
Fusti
nmm
So how did the name "Lipshitz" come about?
Dr. Flonkenstein
in an ultimate attempt to be funny
and witty at once, that summum of the evolution
You have take in account that a big mouth, with only one teeth remaining
was going to be nickenamed "Goldman" on the condition that the remaining
thooth was made in gold of cource!
>
>--
>climb...@hotmail.com
TonyaK911
> In the Gulf War, of 600,000 US soldiers, only 500 were Jews. This is
> less than .1%. Therefore, Jews were about 20 times less likely to fight
> in the Gulf War than Americans in general.
Name your source, or we'll be calling you aliar for a long, long, long time!
TK9
irgun43
<pla...@redneck.gacracker.org> wrote in message news:AR152OWK3766...@Gilgamesh-frog.org...
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Leonard Pulver <red...@gta.igs.net> wrote:
> >Platen Zeebock wrote:
My wife and I have been married for about 4 years now, she is 38 but looks 21
(she still gets carded). She has a very nice body and a tight pussy. We were
watching a porno one night and there was a scene where a well endowed black man
was with a petite white woman. My wife is 5'0" and weighs 120lbs she has blond
hair 36c breasts and a pile driving ass. Before I go any further I am not saying
there aren't hung white males also, it is just still kinda taboo and exciting
watching interracial sex. My wife kept commenting about how was she able to take
all of him, and she was very focused on the t.v.. When the movie was over she
attacked me like a wild woman, she was so wet and was on top going so
I think she bruised my scrotum. Well for about a week I would come home and find
the movie out and discovered while putting up the laundry she had purchased a
big black dildo. We were sitting around watching t.v. and I asked her if there
were any fantasies she would like to discuss. We are very open and discuss them
all the time. She confided in me she had been having fantasies about being with
a black man and I together. She had reservations about this, she had never
thought about it before but now she finds herself looking at black men all the
time and getting excited. We decided we would act on it if we found the right
guy. She came home from work one day and said she was in the back of the store
in the stockroom and slipped on the floor a man who works there picked her up
and carried her into his office and laid her on the desk. He sat there and
talked to her until she felt better. When she was fully alert again, she
realized the man who had helped her was one we had been discussing whether she
should pursue him or not. (I will let my wife take over from here)
I thought he was very good looking and had become very attracted to him. He is
6'4" slender, with a great personality, he is married though. I went to get up
and noticed my blouse had came open and my bra was exposed, he looked down and
got embarassed. I laughed and said it was ok, he helped me off the desk I
thanked him and gave him a hug. I looked up at him and noticed he was looking
down my blouse, so I smiled and asked if he liked what he seen. He caressed my
face then leaned down and kissed me, I don't know why but I opened my mouth and
accepted his tongue, it was so erotic I got weak in the knees. He said he was
sorry but he couldn't help himself, It was then I noticed his cock was starting
to get hard and was pushing up against me. Smiling I started rubbing it through
his slacks. It was so long and so thick I looked up at him and started unzipping
his slacks, while still looking into his eyes I reached in and started pulling
this black python out (that is the only way i can describe it) It was huge. I
looked down and had to catch my breath, I looked up at him and he smiled and
said more than you expected? He sensed my worry and said we shouldn't do this. I
asked if I could taste it, he nodded his approval. He leaned back against the
desk I got on my knees in front of him, at eye level it was really huge. I
grabbed it and it jerked, like an engine starting up. Precum was oozing out of
his massive head, I looked up at him and stuck out my tongue and was licking
this nector off, it tasted so good and was so much of it. I opened my mouth as
wide as I could to get his head into my mouth. I got a surprise when I got it
finally in, I thought he had came I felt a rush of fluid hit the back of my
throat and I started swallowing as fast as I could, it finally slowed down and I
breathe again. I pulled him out of my mouth and he asked if that was all he got,
I looked puzzled and said didn't you cum? He laughed and said he leaks alot of
precum when he gets excited and said wait till you see me cum. Well we went on
with me licking and sucking that ebony shaft and it kept getting longer and
thicker. I was getting scared and hoping he would cum. I started thinking was he
going to or did he want to fuck me with that monster. He reached down and
caressed my face and asked if he could see my pussy, I said yes but we couldn't
go all the way. I stood up and removed my panties, then sat on his desk, he laid
me back so that I was on my back with my legs hanging over the edge of the desk.
My legs were locked together, he said relax he won't do anything he just wants
to see me also. I slowly opened up my legs for him, when they were open all the
way his cock jumped and precum was dripping from his head. He asked if he could
stand between my legs and stroke himself while looking at me, I said yes. I was
watching him masturbate and started rubbing myself also, ther was so much precum
leaking out of him. He kept getting closer to my opening while he was
masturbating. I started cumming hard and while I was cumming my hips were
rotating upward and I felt his cock hit my opening and that just made me cum
harder. I kept pushing myself up against him, I felt his head starting to enter
me, I pushed harder I finally was able to get it in. It was streching me so
much, I put ny hand against his stomach and said please don't push let me. I
started pushing against him trying to take more, he said relax and was very
patient with me he started moving a little back and forth and pushing very
gently inside me. I could feel his cock surging and I knew he was filling me
with precum. I stared cumming very hard, and pushing myself up at him again, all
of a sudden I felt a kinda of a pop and his cock pushed inside me. It felt like
he was in my throat, he started moaning saying he had never felt a pussy like
mine. I swear I could feel him in my cervix, I started cumming again, all of a
sudden he grabbed my ass and shoved the entire thing inside me and unloaded his
seed deep inside me. I could feel it pulsating and jerking and shooting inside
me. I felt it running out of me and down my crack. He finally stopped and pulled
out of me slowly and I swear I heard a pop when his head came out. When I got
home that night I started crying telling my husband what I had done, He got so
excited we made love right there on the sofa. We hope to do this again, this
time my husband will be present. I have to recover though form the last time
LOL.