How dim is George W Bush?
Robert Henderson
The Moronican President, George W Tool, is thought to be less than
intellectually gifted by virtually everyone without a vested interest in
saying otherwise. But exactly how dim is he? Is he merely around average
IQ or way below?
What evidence do we have to judge? The best comes from his public
speaking. Put Bush in front of an autocue and he will, even with the
considerable practise he has had, frequently deliver sentences in a
manner which suggests he has not got a clue as to the meaning of what he
is saying, his phrasing being completely awry - he frequently stops in
the middle of sentence.
Apologists for Bush attribute this to his difficulty with reading. It is
worth noting that Bush by his own admission has done precious little
sustained reading at any time in his life.
Take Bush away from an autocue and he invariably lapses into halting
sentences, interlaced with odd spurts of fluency. These bursts of
fluency go as quickly as they come and show all the signs of being
phrases and sentences which he has learnt without any real
understanding. Those he does understand he tends to repeat very
frequently.
Bush's vocabulary is small and short on abstractions. He is massively
lacking in general knowledge. His comprehension is minimal. He
frequently uses the wrong word. For example, during a visit to Japan
recently, he caused a run on the yen when he said he had had talks on
devaluation with the Japanese PM. He should have said deflation.
When the presidential election was in the balance he was reported to
have said to his father "But you promised I would win, you promised!"
The voice of the young child.
So what do we have. Lack of oral ability. Poor literacy. Generally
ignorant. All at sea with abstractions. Childlike manner. Taking all
that into account, I would venture a guess that Bush has an IQ way below
average, perhaps as low as 70 odd. RH
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Robert Henderson
William Meikle
Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<qUE0PlD4...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>...
>
> The Moronican President, George W Tool, is thought to be less than
> intellectually gifted by virtually everyone without a vested interest in
> saying otherwise. But exactly how dim is he? Is he merely around average
> IQ or way below?
I don't know if this is true, but it was reported in newspapers in the UK
Dubya was seen waving and smiling at Stevie Wonder at a concert two nights
ago....he didn't know that the great man was blind?
Charles Self
>Dubya was seen waving and smiling at Stevie Wonder at a concert two nights
>ago....he didn't know that the great man was blind?
And he couldn't possibly have been waving and smiling at anyone else in the
place, could he?
Charlie Self
TomS
Is this just another ploy to click on your damn website so you can run your
counters up. Actually Mr. Stevie Wonder does have 'guides' who take him from
place to place and I would suggest they would inform the blind warbler that
the President of the United States was waving at his party....When have you
not seen a head of state not wave at his constituency? Even Franklin Delano
Roosevelt smiled at Helen Keller and I suppose FDR was a dim bulb in your
high and mighty mind.
Again take this crap to the other groups that care.
Robert Henderson
<Willie...@btinternet.com> writes
Whah didn't no one tell me he's blind? Whah mest I always heve to find
thin's out mahself? Ah think this is another plot from Terroristan to
brin' down the Moronican Government. Perhaps Ah orter heve a word with
Dick 'bout makin' it illegal to be blind. RH
>Willie
>http://www.willie.meikle.btinternet.co.uk
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Robert Henderson
James Adams
"Robert Henderson" <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qUE0PlD4...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
Well, I am no fan of either IQ tests or GWBush, and I used to believe that
his IQ was around 70ish, but I did some research. What I found out was that
the report of an extremely low "estimated" IQ was an internet hoax. The
organization that was reported to have made that estimate does not exist.
His IQ scores are unavailable, but I have seen an analysis of his SAT scores
by a conservative columnist somewhere. The argument seemed well thought out,
and the conclusion was that GWB has an IQ of around 115.
The behaviours you mention tend to make one suspicious of a lower IQ, but
those kinds of behaviour do not necessarily correlate to IQ scores. A friend
of mine has an IQ around 118, but seems much more intellectual than that
score indicates. This friend, however, was raised in New York City by
well-to-do parents, and had all the advantages that upbringing can produce:
excellent education, cultural opportunities not available elsewhere, etc.
So I would speculate that Dubya's intellectual dullness is a cultural
problem. Call it the Texas Handicap. (And don't accuse me of prejudice. I
was raised in the Midwest and spent a not-completely-inconsiderable amount
of time in Texas, so I know whereof I speak.)
The real issue here, I think, has to do with Dubya's SAT scores. They
indicate, as I recall, that he finished just-barely-among the top 16%of
students who took the SAT that year. If we take his SAT results as roughly
correspondent to his intellectual standing in the population at large -- not
at all, I think, an unfair assumption -- we must conclude that 84% of the
American people are dumber than George Bush.
Now that's SCARY.
James
Robert Henderson
<None...@thistime.org> writes
>Is this just another ploy to click on your damn website so you can run your
>counters up. Actually Mr. Stevie Wonder does have 'guides' who take him from
>place to place and I would suggest they would inform the blind warbler that
>the President of the United States was waving at his party....When have you
>not seen a head of state not wave at his constituency? Even Franklin Delano
>Roosevelt smiled at Helen Keller and I suppose FDR was a dim bulb in your
>high and mighty mind.
>
None too bright and vicious with it. RH
>Again take this crap to the other groups that care.
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Robert Henderson
Robert Henderson
<jamnadams#@attbi.com> writes
>
>Well, I am no fan of either IQ tests or GWBush, and I used to believe that
>his IQ was around 70ish, but I did some research. What I found out was that
>the report of an extremely low "estimated" IQ was an internet hoax. The
>organization that was reported to have made that estimate does not exist.
>
>His IQ scores are unavailable, but I have seen an analysis of his SAT scores
>by a conservative columnist somewhere. The argument seemed well thought out,
>and the conclusion was that GWB has an IQ of around 115.
>
But SAT tests are not pure IQ tests. RH
>The behaviours you mention tend to make one suspicious of a lower IQ, but
>those kinds of behaviour do not necessarily correlate to IQ scores. A friend
>of mine has an IQ around 118, but seems much more intellectual than that
>score indicates. This friend, however, was raised in New York City by
>well-to-do parents, and had all the advantages that upbringing can produce:
>excellent education, cultural opportunities not available elsewhere, etc.
>
>So I would speculate that Dubya's intellectual dullness is a cultural
>problem. Call it the Texas Handicap. (And don't accuse me of prejudice. I
>was raised in the Midwest and spent a not-completely-inconsiderable amount
>of time in Texas, so I know whereof I speak.)
>
But his family were not Texans nor are they noticeably dim. RH
>The real issue here, I think, has to do with Dubya's SAT scores. They
>indicate, as I recall, that he finished just-barely-among the top 16%of
>students who took the SAT that year. If we take his SAT results as roughly
>correspondent to his intellectual standing in the population at large -- not
>at all, I think, an unfair assumption -- we must conclude that 84% of the
>American people are dumber than George Bush.
>
>Now that's SCARY.
>
Absolutely terryfying. RH
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Robert Henderson
James Adams
> In article <wyni8.9039$af7.7378@rwcrnsc53>, James Adams
> <jamnadams#@attbi.com> writes
> >
> >Well, I am no fan of either IQ tests or GWBush, and I used to believe
that
> >his IQ was around 70ish, but I did some research. What I found out was
that
> >the report of an extremely low "estimated" IQ was an internet hoax. The
> >organization that was reported to have made that estimate does not exist.
> >
> >His IQ scores are unavailable, but I have seen an analysis of his SAT
scores
> >by a conservative columnist somewhere. The argument seemed well thought
out,
> >and the conclusion was that GWB has an IQ of around 115.
> >
>
> But SAT tests are not pure IQ tests. RH
>
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Granted. The estimate of 115 was inferred from his standing in the SAT
results and the average intelligence of Americans in general, with maybe the
average intelligence of college freshmen thrown in as a sweetner. I really
don't remember the details of the argument. I would guess that the column is
still available on the Internet somewhere, but I can't seem to find it at
the moment.
--- JA ---
> >The behaviours you mention tend to make one suspicious of a lower IQ, but
> >those kinds of behaviour do not necessarily correlate to IQ scores. A
friend
> >of mine has an IQ around 118, but seems much more intellectual than that
> >score indicates. This friend, however, was raised in New York City by
> >well-to-do parents, and had all the advantages that upbringing can
produce:
> >excellent education, cultural opportunities not available elsewhere, etc.
> >
> >So I would speculate that Dubya's intellectual dullness is a cultural
> >problem. Call it the Texas Handicap. (And don't accuse me of prejudice. I
> >was raised in the Midwest and spent a not-completely-inconsiderable
amount
> >of time in Texas, so I know whereof I speak.)
> >
>
> But his family were not Texans nor are they noticeably dim. RH
>
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The Bushes moved to Texas in 1948, when Dubya -- maybe the li'l shaver was
just called "Dub" back then, he was prob'ly so small -- was two. According
to his official bio, George was raised in Texas.
Now, being raised in Texas, or pretty much anywhere else in the middle of
the country, is a distinct cultural disadvantage. New York City is where
most of the culture is in America, with California running a not terribly
close second. Everything between is notoriously devoid of culture. Being
well-off in Texas is the same as being well-off in New York City in the
sense that the best is available to you, but in Texas the best isn't all
that great, or all that sophisticated, or all that advantageous, compared to
the best in NYC.
There's a joke that goes, "What's the difference between yogurt and Texas?"
Answer: "Yogurt has an active culture."
I won't comment on whether the Bush clan in general is noticeably dim. I
don't notice the Bush clan at all, so I can't comment on how dim they might
appear to me if I did.
--- JA ---
> >The real issue here, I think, has to do with Dubya's SAT scores. They
> >indicate, as I recall, that he finished just-barely-among the top 16%of
> >students who took the SAT that year. If we take his SAT results as
roughly
> >correspondent to his intellectual standing in the population at large --
not
> >at all, I think, an unfair assumption -- we must conclude that 84% of the
> >American people are dumber than George Bush.
> >
> >Now that's SCARY.
> >
>
> Absolutely terryfying. RH
----------
I think that deserves some extra emphasis:
ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING!!
--- JA ---
James
Robert Henderson
<jamnadams#@attbi.com> writes
> we must conclude that 84% of the
>> >American people are dumber than George Bush.
>> >
>> >Now that's SCARY.
>> >
>>
>> Absolutely terryfying. RH
>
>----------
>I think that deserves some extra emphasis:
>
>ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING!!
>--- JA ---
>
Nothing can provide sufficient emphasis. Perhaps we had all better just
scream continuously. RH
>James
>
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Robert Henderson
James Adams
Give it time, give it time. JA
TomS
Personally I don't think dumbing down any government is a bad idea. We have
let the whiz kids have it for all too long and look at the mess they have
made of it.
Charles Self
> In article <x7Vi8.19746$q2.2612@sccrnsc01>, James Adams
>> <jamnadams#@attbi.com> writes
>> > we must conclude that 84% of the
>> >> >American people are dumber than George Bush.
>> >> >
>> >> >Now that's SCARY.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Absolutely terryfying. RH
>> >
>> >----------
>> >I think that deserves some extra emphasis:
>> >
>> >ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING!!
>> >--- JA ---
>> >
>>
>> Nothing can provide sufficient emphasis. Perhaps we had all better just
>> scream continuously. RH
>Give it time, give it time. JA
I do love it when one of the 16% deigns to spout. If it ever happens...
Charlie Self
Bruce Tober
<charl...@aol.com> writes
Not according to this report quoting the Washington Post:
Apparently our great president, seated in the front row, couldn't resist
attracting Stevie's attention as he arrived on stage and sat down at his
keyboard. And what's the best way to attract a blind man's attention? As
Dubya now knows, it's not waving at him. From the Post: "After a moment
Bush realized his mistake and slowly dropped the errant hand back to his
lap.
Which also puts the kibosh on whoever in this thread said SW has a lead
guy with him who guides him around and tells him what's happening. I've
seen this and the guy leads him over the to piano and then leaves till
it's time for SW to go off stage.
But, I agree, it's more an indication of a lapse of memory than
stupidity. I just hope he doesn't forget the codes for cancelling a nuke
attack when needed.
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