ipalias (linux) help needed, would like to alias my ip
Arthur Rosene
else on irc.
for example
instead of a...@my.cable.provider.com
i was told that i needed ipalias in order to do this.. i'm running
redhat linux 7.0. i dont know what it is i need to do exactly. if
someone could help me with this in consideration of the fact that i am a
total linux newbie.
even if the process is not that easy just explaining everything i need
to learn or read up on would be great.
thanks
MJ Ray
> a...@irczone.net
> instead of a...@my.cable.provider.com
You are the nth person to ask this. Is it really not in a FAQ?
If irczone.net == my.cable.provider.com, you need to convince
cable.provider.com to change the reverse DNS.
Otherwise, you need to run an irc redirection tool on the machine with
the domain irczone.net.
If you own the IRC server you are connecting too, you should
investigate I-line hostname spoofing.
Is a vanity domain on IRC really worth it?
--
MJR
David Schwartz
Arthur Rosene wrote:
> i was told that i needed ipalias in order to do this.. i'm running
> redhat linux 7.0. i dont know what it is i need to do exactly. if
> someone could help me with this in consideration of the fact that i am a
> total linux newbie.
Someone is playing games with you.
DS
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"MJ Ray" <ma...@cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Arthur Rosene <aro...@houston.rr.com> writes:
>
> > a...@irczone.net
> > instead of a...@my.cable.provider.com
>
> You are the nth person to ask this. Is it really not in a FAQ?
I'm happy to make an up to date 'General IRC FAQ' to compliment the 'IRC
Newsgroup FAQ' i currently publish, however these sort of things always need
input and support from posters such as yourself.
If i were to draft such a document do you think that you all
would/could/can/will join in a collabrative attempt to make something
worthwhile ?
-=-peas-=-
> MJR
Pete
pete
<-snip snip snip->
> I'm happy to make an up to date 'General IRC FAQ' to compliment the 'IRC
> Newsgroup FAQ' i currently publish, however these sort of things always
need
> input and support from posters such as yourself.
>
> If i were to draft such a document do you think that you all
> would/could/can/will join in a collabrative attempt to make something
> worthwhile ?
>
> -=-peas-=-
<-snip snip snip->
them
I spend far too much time on IRC and here to begin with, but I'll toss in
my opinion, always willing to do that ;)
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Asmo
>I'm happy to make an up to date 'General IRC FAQ' to compliment the 'IRC
>Newsgroup FAQ' i currently publish, however these sort of things always need
>input and support from posters such as yourself.
>
>If i were to draft such a document do you think that you all
>would/could/can/will join in a collabrative attempt to make something
>worthwhile ?
How would you feel for publisg=hing that article on my website as well
as an article?
www.irc-junkie.org is the website, take a look and tell me how you
feel about it :o)
Greets,
Asmo
webmaster IRC-Junkie.org
Dan Neely
> If i were to draft such a document do you think that you all
> would/could/can/will join in a collabrative attempt to make something
> worthwhile ?
sure.
Contention
>I'm happy to make an up to date 'General IRC FAQ' to compliment the 'IRC
>Newsgroup FAQ' i currently publish, however these sort of things always need
>input and support from posters such as yourself.
>
>If i were to draft such a document do you think that you all
>would/could/can/will join in a collabrative attempt to make something
>worthwhile ?
Naturally. Would it be providing information that isn't available at
irchelp.org, though? Usually the problem is that people don't *read* the
FAQs, or that they're hard to find, not that they don't exist. (This
particular question might be a rare exception to the rule.)
Contention.
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MJ Ray
> Naturally. Would it be providing information that isn't available at
> irchelp.org, though? Usually the problem is that people don't *read* the
> FAQs, or that they're hard to find, not that they don't exist. [...]
What is the best 20-line welcome message you can give a new IRCer? We
get mostly new users on our server, so it would be good to have the
banner (4 lines) and then a really helpful intro.
--
MJR
MJ Ray
> How would you feel for publisg=hing that article on my website as well
> as an article?
We'd prefer someone that proof-read what they put online.
*runs for the hills*
--
MJR
Contention
>What is the best 20-line welcome message you can give a new IRCer? We
>get mostly new users on our server, so it would be good to have the
>banner (4 lines) and then a really helpful intro.
Hmm. Presumably new users are going to want to know how to get a
list of channels, how to join channels, and how to get more help ("If
you need further help, visit http://www.mirc.co.uk/irc.html for a quick
introduction, or http://www.irchelp.org/ for comprehensive
information").
Similarly, if you have services, mention it (and how to get more
information) in the motd, as well as the administrative channel, or
other way of getting that sort of help. If you host any sort of IRC help
channel, it should go in.
Finally, a quick list of Things Not To Do, and a short disclaimer
about disconnecting people at any time for any reason.
Sound reasonable? Anything else?
Torben Dam Refsing
This, ofcourse, requires that you own more than one IP, a domain
(irczone.net), and the rights to run a DNS-server (to point irczone.net to
your newly aquired IP, and vice versa).
TheRock
"picilli" <pic...@mdi.ca> wrote in message
news:_ljy6.23328$BC6.6...@e3500-chi1.usenetserver.com...
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:42:51 +0200, Torben Dam Refsing <TR8...@ehs.dk>
wrote:> Of course, how to get IP aliases, ten new IP addresses if he wants,
> (which is all he really needs) from just one (static) IP address assigned
> by his internet provider, is explained in mini-HOWTO IP-Alias.
> A domain name he'll get by installing Bind package; there will be
> /usr/bin/named (from Bind) to point to *his own* desired domain name.
> And that's all of it.
> By installing virtuald he can choose from several domain names assigned
> by himself to his IP aliases, and change them on-fly.
> .
> >and the rights to run a DNS-server (to point irczone.net to
> >your newly aquired IP, and vice versa).
>
computer.
> He is not going into business.
Depends on his ISP. Some ISPs prohibit the operation of any server on your
line, and if they catch you they terminate your account. Though a bit far
fetched, it is something some ISP's do disallow, though I think they are
targeting the person running a 50 user p0rn FTP more than a DNS server.
J
Founder
irc.foreverchat.net
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Torben Dam Refsing
> /usr/bin/named (from Bind) to point to *his own* desired domain name.
No.. domains are aquired from internic.net, *NOT* by adding them to your own
NS!
> I don't know who can prohibits him to run a DNS server on his own
computer.
> He is not going into business.
Ehh... don't you think the world needs to know which IP irczone.net points
to? Or are this just valid for him?
www.internic.net - read it
-Torben
Ian Westcott
: > /usr/bin/named (from Bind) to point to *his own* desired domain name.
: No.. domains are aquired from internic.net, *NOT* by adding them to your own
: NS!
No, you can add as many domains as you want to your own NS w/o going
through Internic. The rest of the world just won't know about them. ;)
And Internic is no longer the only game in town regarding domain
registration.
--
Ian Westcott Rakarra@IRC
rak...@pacbell.net
Kyle Hutchins
> > No.. domains are aquired from internic.net, *NOT* by adding them to
> > your own NS!
>
> full of hostnames like: i.run.this.bot.from.my.freaking.net
> They are actually added to his IP aliases. Internic has nothing to do
> with it since his IP aliases are already bind to IP address of his
> provider; his provider's IP is acquired by internick, not his IP
> aliases and not his names.
Right, but this doesn't help the original poster. In order to use a
"neat-o" host like that on IRC, the IP address from which you connect to IRC
would have to point to that host in the IRC server's DNS server. In this
case, it would still point to the ISP-assigned hostname, so the "special"
host wouldn't be used. The fact that the special host points to your IP
address doesn't change anything because on modern IRC networks the server
resolves the IP on its own.
--
Kyle Hutchins
sfdr...@home.com
Kyle Hutchins
> Why do you think named and resolver won't work ? Install DNS and read
> all about it.
I don't see how it could work. Your IP address is owned by your ISP, and
thus your ISP's nameserver has authority over any other nameservers (e.g.,
the one you would run yourself) for that particular IP address. Unless you
can get your ISP to change the DNS entry (which is unlikely), the IP will
still resolve to the ISP-assigned hostmask for everyone else.
Am I mistaken?
--
Kyle Hutchins
sfdr...@home.com
Michael Ross
Then I would suggest you read your documents on bind just a bit
better, specifically looking under sections on delegation. (especially
delegation of the in-addr.arpa domain)
When you establish a connection with an IRC server it only gets your
IP address (or the IP address your bouncing through) it then performs
the reverse lookup on that IP; this being accomplished via however the
server handles those lookups.
Unless the DNS servers the IRC server uses for its lookup are authorative
for your IP address range then they will perform a normal search for it. So,
unless your machine is listed as being authorative for your IP in a higher
up
nameserver then nothing will bother talking to the named on your box.
Section 5.1 of the DNS-howto on the link you gave us covers what I am
meaning fairly well.
Like I said, re-read your docs a bit better. Kyle seems to know what he is
talking about better then you.
--
Michael
sh...@shadowfire.org
Michael Ross
> Naturally. Would it be providing information that isn't available at
> irchelp.org, though? Usually the problem is that people don't *read* the
> FAQs, or that they're hard to find, not that they don't exist. (This
> particular question might be a rare exception to the rule.)
that was my reaction actually. Instead of doing a general IRC faq why
not try to do something that isn't available on mainstream webpages?
Either that, or try to collect all of the answers on threads that answer
a specific question and put that on a webpage..
just a thought
Michael