30+ IRC NETS listing now = 40!!!
Joe Burke
Hmmm... I seem to be having trouble psoting to alt.irc all of a sudden here...
I try one more time on this and hope it doesn't show up multiple times...
-------------------
Well, thanks to the great response I got on my post a couple weeks ago, I've
added another 9 or ten nets to the list. The page now contains forty (yes 40)
different IRC Nets and servers for each! I still can't guarantee the accuracy
of all the information... but I appreciate all the reports I got updating
servers and the like. I hope I'll get more until the list is 95% accurate.
For anyone who didn't see the first post, I'll repeat some of that post here:
I enjoy IRC and I have put this page up as a service for the many IRC'ers who
are getting tired of all the lag on the big nets. I welcome input from anyone
out there who knows of Net's which are not listed... or of servers which are no
longer active, or perhaps more reliable than ones I have listed.
Please go to http://www.teleport.com/~netpro
and click on the "Internet" link and then on
the "Internet Relay Chat" link in the second paragraph.
PS: you may also enjoy some of the entertaining graphics and midi sounds as
well as the extensive resources listed for Windows 3.1 and Windows 95 and the
Internet Resources like a listing of 17 shareware sites, etc.
Enjoy! And thanks for your input [ flames will be redirected =:o) ]
--
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* Joe Burke <net...@teleport.com> *
* ______ ______ *
* | Net| |Pro | http://www.teleport.com/~netpro *
* | Inter| |net | We offer *
* |Consul| |ting | personalized help *
* ====== ====== with all your Internet needs *
* /oooooooo/ DUAL MONITORS with Win95 = 2x the fun!!! *
* /oooooooo/ get your apps off the taskbar & onto the screen *
dam...@panix.com
Re: the subject line:
Well it's like this:
ON the big two networks, there are teens who have it out for their
parents. They have been grounded or maybe the folks are divorcing or
something else rather unpleasant is going on...
...the first place these kids go is a 30s channel to take out their anger
on innocent people who remember Fizzies and The Beatles. The channel
founders become militant and guard their (illusory on efnet) territory and
become paranoid buggers (who knows? Maybe they just dont wanna update the
info on their homepage). Others who only wanted to chat start up satellite
channels with the illusion that the same thing wont happen to them;
they're damned is they set +s or +p and newcomers dont see their channel
on lists and they're damned if it's wide open for more disfynctional teens
who are scoping out 30s channels to indirectly get back at their parents.
Hence an overabundance of 30s channels.
Thanks kids! you've been great! NOT!!!!!!!!!!
CaptBlood
Lord Linux
Not only teens do this. A few of the lame fucks from #HackTeach are over
18 such as bbuster who thinks his winblows based mail bomber makes him
god.
Jeremy Nelson
Lord Linux <lli...@gwbbs.northeast.net> wrote:
>Not only teens do this. A few of the lame fucks from #HackTeach are over
>18 such as bbuster who thinks his winblows based mail bomber makes him
>god.
Ironically, when bbuster attempted to mail bomb me (For in his words,
i did not show him the ``proper respect'' that he was due), he didnt
even have the originality to change the "from" line so that it didnt have
a common attribute (if i told him what it was, that would take out all
the fun.); It didnt even require more than one procmail entry to send
all his email to /dev/null.
Whats even more ironic about it is that i TOLD him i would just throw
away all the email he sent to me, but he did it anyhow. I sent the
obligatory email to his sysadmin, and his sysadmin said that bbuster's
side of the story was that i had provoked him, and he was just protecting
himself from me.
Whatever. ;-)
-hop "That mean old nasty irCOPPER" onpop
Four-Color Fiend
Lord Linux (lli...@gwbbs.northeast.net) wrote:
: dam...@panix.com wrote:
: >
: > Re: the subject line:
: >
: > Well it's like this:
: >
: > ON the big two networks, there are teens who have it out for their
: > parents. They have been grounded or maybe the folks are divorcing or
: > something else rather unpleasant is going on...
: > Hence an overabundance of 30s channels.
: >
: > Thanks kids! you've been great! NOT!!!!!!!!!!
: >
: Not only teens do this. A few of the lame fucks from #HackTeach are over
: 18 such as bbuster who thinks his winblows based mail bomber makes him
: god.
I agree with both of you, but STILL you can find jerks all over IRC not
only on efnet. Face it, jerks come in all shapes, sizes and AGES. ;-)
However, I have to admit that except for a couple of channels that I'll
visit briefly at a pre-determined hour to chat with like-minded folks I
spend very little time on efnet as the trouble makers seem far fewer on
the smaller servers.
Steve
--
sh...@panix.com "Almost anything you do will be insignificant,
but you must do it." - M. Gandhi
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
CrackBaby
In article <N.110296....@netpro.teleport.com>,
net...@teleport.com (Joe Burke) writes:
> Hmmm... I seem to be having trouble psoting to alt.irc all of a sudden here...
I think the problem is that your bloated sig can barely squeeze through
your modem.
> -----------
> * Joe Burke <net...@teleport.com> *
> * ______ ______ *
> * | Net| |Pro | http://www.teleport.com/~netpro *
> * | Inter| |net | We offer *
> * |Consul| |ting | personalized help *
> * ====== ====== with all your Internet needs *
> * /oooooooo/ DUAL MONITORS with Win95 = 2x the fun!!! *
> * /oooooooo/ get your apps off the taskbar & onto the screen *
I'm guessing that you need two monitors to see your entire sig?
Hey, waitaminute ... something's happening ...
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*Joe Burke <net...@teleport.com> *
* ____ ______ *
* | Net||Pro | http://www.teleport.com/~netpro *
* | Inter||net | We offer *
* |Consul||ting | personalized help *
* ====== ====== with all your Internetneeds *
* /oooooooo/ DUAL MONITORS with Win95 = 2x thefun!!! *
* /oooooooo/ get your apps off the taskbar&ontothescreen *
Odd ... your sig is getting smaller ...
-----------
*Joe Burke <net...@teleport.com> *
* | Net||Pro|http://www.teleport.com/~netpro *
* | Inter||net|We offer *
*|Consul||ting|personalized help *
* ====== ====== withallyourInternetneeds *
* /oooooooo/ DUALMONITORSwithWin95=2xthefun!!!*
* /oooooooo/getyourappsoffthetaskbar&ontothescreen*
The whitespace is being absorbed ...
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*JoeBurke<net...@teleport.com>*
*|Net||Pro|http://www.teleport.com/~netpro *
*|Inter||net|We offer*lizedhelpneed
*|Consul||ting|persona*urInternetsfun!!
*============withallyo*in95=2xthe!screen
*/oooooooo/DUALMONITORSwithW*r&ontothe*
*/oooooooo/getyourappsoffthetaskba
The compaction is accelerating!
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*JoeB...@tet.com >*
*|Net||Prolepo/~netpro*
*|Inter||net|lidhelpneed
*|Consul||tinrIernetsfun
*==========n9the!screen
*/ooooooowit&ontothe*
*/ooooooosetaskba
How much smaller can it get?
*J*
*|Nero*
*|Insd*
*o*
Going ...
.
Going ...
_\ /_
/ \
*blip!*
Gone!
Amazing, Joe! Your sig was so big it collapsed into a quantum
singularity under the force of its own gravitational field! Well, better
luck next time.
--
CrackBaby
caro...@ou.edu
All E-Mail gladly received. Offensive reply ASAP.
Joe Burke
Well, thanks to the great response I got on my post a couple weeks ago,
I've added another 9 or ten nets to the list. The page now contains forty
(yes 40) different IRC Nets and servers for each! I still can't guarantee
the accuracy of all the information... but I appreciate all the reports I
got updating servers and the like. I hope I'll get more until the list is
95% accurate.
For anyone who didn't see the first post, I'll repeat some of that post
here:
I enjoy IRC and I have put this page up as a service for the many IRC'ers
who are getting tired of all the lag on the big nets. I welcome input
from anyone out there who knows of Net's which are not listed... or of
servers which are no longer active, or perhaps more reliable than ones I
have listed.
Please go to http://www.teleport.com/~netpro
and click on the "Internet" link and then on
the "Internet Relay Chat" link in the second paragraph.
PS: you may also enjoy some of the entertaining graphics and midi sounds
as well as the extensive resources listed for Windows 3.1 and Windows 95
and the Internet Resources like a listing of 17 shareware sites, etc.
Enjoy! And thanks for your input [ flames will be redirected =:o) ]
--
dam...@panix.com
Four-Color Fiend (sh...@panix.com) wrote:
: I agree with both of you, but STILL you can find jerks all over IRC not
: only on efnet. Face it, jerks come in all shapes, sizes and AGES. ;-)
True. Often with older ones there is usually a traumatic experience
behind it for which they take things out on everyone else; divorce and
injury (esp if it means impotence or worse - hey it's a sad thing but what
a mover and shaker in the thought processes). And lest we forget mental
illness. The scary thing is some of these older ones have kids of their
own IIIIYYYYAAAAAGH!!!!!
But this isnt as common as the younguns...
: However, I have to admit that except for a couple of channels that I'll
: visit briefly at a pre-determined hour to chat with like-minded folks I
: spend very little time on efnet as the trouble makers seem far fewer on
: the smaller servers.
Yep.
I may chat with acquaintances from time to time on efnet who have this
imaginary fence around themselves and allow themselves to continue being
victimised by unknowns with takeover fever, but I won't enter a channel on
that network myself. The other nets - except undernet which isnt THAT much
better - do a little for justice and everyone's happier.
CaptBlood
*************************
***************************************************
****** #30s_Haven Official Homepage & Information Centre ******
************ http://www.octet.com/~odd/IRC/30s_haven.html ************
******** Art! *** Info! *** Fun! *** Links! ********
***************************************************
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Adam Noel Harris
Trimmed to alt.irc because this is only about specific nets in the warped
mind of 30-something elephino.
dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) said this stuff:
: So back to this bbuster. The reason why some teens are teens after 19
: is because their girlfriend or boyfriend pursuits are just not
: working out, and they look on the 30s years with dread and fear of
: becoming old maids and never being able to get the hang of this
: relationship stuff and never getting their rocks properly off; hackboy's
: nick is the dead giveaway to the common synaptic conclusion "well if I
: can't have any, NOBODY can". So what we have here on bb's part is still
: some seriously misdirected excess energy.
Ah, so you're mad at hackboys and their ilk because they interrupt your
cyberlays? Now you're starting to make sense.
-Adam
Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of Stanford University.
PGP Fingerprint = C0 65 A2 BD 8A 67 B3 19 F9 8B C1 4C 8E F2 EA 0E
Tony Miller
sh...@panix.com (Four-Color Fiend) wrote:
>However, I have to admit that except for a couple of channels that I'll
>visit briefly at a pre-determined hour to chat with like-minded folks I
>spend very little time on efnet as the trouble makers seem far fewer on
>the smaller servers.
I generally hang out on channels where I'm treated well by those with
the @'s. They set the tone for the channel. The ops on the channels
I frequent take (I believe too much) delight in ejecting idiots.
An op's job (and yes, it is a job) is to provide an enjoyable
environment for people to chat in, *whatever* the people on the
channel deem enjoyable. If you are not ready to do the job, you
shouldn't wear an @.
When the ops are on the ball, there is no trouble with troublemakers.
(And the private attacks I can take care of myself.)
--
DALnet, the BEST IRC network on the face of the planet
dam...@panix.com
Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: I generally hang out on channels where I'm treated well by those with
: the @'s. They set the tone for the channel. The ops on the channels
: I frequent take (I believe too much) delight in ejecting idiots.
: An op's job (and yes, it is a job) is to provide an enjoyable
: environment for people to chat in, *whatever* the people on the
: channel deem enjoyable. If you are not ready to do the job, you
: shouldn't wear an @.
: When the ops are on the ball, there is no trouble with troublemakers.
: (And the private attacks I can take care of myself.)
This is the common mindset on alternative networks. The efnet once again
is the culprit in twisting around a function. Efnetters practise opping
their friends or opping people they've seen before (on one channel I left,
opping enemies too because they were regular enemies - HAR! What a
concept!). As you know from a previous post, a friend of mine was kicked
because some guy decided he didnt like her and he was summarily opped for
that purpose. Then again when the takeover kiddies come into that channel
even now, thos poor schmucks scatter like frantic chickens and huddle into
channels with similar names. So when the going gets tough and they have to
do some REAL operating, these dorks havent a clue. And that goes on all
over efnet! Sometimes when they leave they bring this practise over to
the alternative networks, but it isnt so prominent.
Even Underwearnet's FAQ states the purpose of op status.
This sort of thing doesnt exist on DalNet. Isn't it a good thing? :}
CaptBlood
==========================================================================
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2047 <-- Black Blade cybercomic Pt.1
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ODD <-- Black Blade Pt.4
http://www.octet.com/~odd/IRC/30s_haven.html <-- Channel HP & IRC Info Ctr
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/5808 <-- The Errol Flynn Homepage
==========================================================================
Tony Miller
ad...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Noel Harris) wrote:
>Trimmed to alt.irc because this is only about specific nets in the warped
>mind of 30-something elephino.
>dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) said this stuff:
>: So back to this bbuster. The reason why some teens are teens after 19
>: is because their girlfriend or boyfriend pursuits are just not
>: working out, and they look on the 30s years with dread and fear of
>: becoming old maids and never being able to get the hang of this
>: relationship stuff and never getting their rocks properly off; hackboy's
>: nick is the dead giveaway to the common synaptic conclusion "well if I
>: can't have any, NOBODY can". So what we have here on bb's part is still
>: some seriously misdirected excess energy.
>Ah, so you're mad at hackboys and their ilk because they interrupt your
>cyberlays? Now you're starting to make sense.
I checked for the x-troll header line, and you either forgot, or you
don't have a cl00.
The "C" in IRC stands for "chat". Not "flood", not "takeover" but
"chat". That's the reason I'm there. Takeovers, floods and such seem
to be the primary entertainent on EFnet. I happen not to find that
enjoyable, so I stick to DALnet, where I only have to worry about
channel protection when services are down.
Makes the experience a whole lot more fun for me.
Adam Noel Harris
:
: : I agree with both of you, but STILL you can find jerks all over IRC not
: : only on efnet. Face it, jerks come in all shapes, sizes and AGES. ;-)
:
: True. Often with older ones there is usually a traumatic experience
: behind it for which they take things out on everyone else; divorce and
: injury (esp if it means impotence or worse - hey it's a sad thing but what
: a mover and shaker in the thought processes). And lest we forget mental
: illness. The scary thing is some of these older ones have kids of their
: own IIIIYYYYAAAAAGH!!!!!
Poor Yorik, I knew him well. Oh irony of ironies! CaptBud has his own
tramautic experience which causes him to take things out on EFnet and its
supporters :) Talk about your mental illness....
For the full story, you can read about Errol, Jane, and Olivia for
yourself - http://www.octet.com/~odd/IRC/history.htm
* READ... about the evil bitch Jane
* MARVEL... at Errol's heroic refusal to be "cyber-bedded"
* WONDER... how Olivia and Errol had the strength to move on
* PONDER... why Olivia and Errol can't even play by DALnet's rules,
having to whine to IRCops because Jane registered
#30s_brothel
* BE AMAZED... at how clearly the whole story points to the word "LOSERS"
* SUGGEST... that they add the html line <h1>How leaving EFnet turned us
into really really big net-pricks</h1>
: But this isnt as common as the younguns...
Thank God. LordLinux and Mikenny we can forgive. Being over 30 and
swooning over your net-love (while cursing the net-mistress) is a little
bit further on the lame side.
: I may chat with acquaintances from time to time on efnet who have this
: imaginary fence around themselves and allow themselves to continue being
: victimised by unknowns with takeover fever, but I won't enter a channel on
: that network myself.
Argh! NO!1!!!1!! I have been victimized by evil netsexing wenches from
#arabella_sucks!!!! I must run to Uncle ChanServ, who will pertekt me!
Give me a home where the IRCops /kill, and the k-line team and CSops
do play; where never is heard a dissenting word, and the skies are not
friendly all day.
: The other nets - except undernet which isnt THAT much
: better - do a little for justice and everyone's happier.
Because it allows child molesters and warez traders (and Jane already has
our channel registered there).
: *************************
: ***************************************************
: ****** #30s_Haven Official Homepage & Information Centre ******
: ************ http://www.octet.com/~odd/IRC/30s_haven.html ************
: ******** Art! *** Info! *** Fun! *** Links! ********
: ***************************************************
: *************************
Lamers!
Dennis Moore
Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: I generally hang out on channels where I'm treated well by those with
: the @'s. They set the tone for the channel. The ops on the channels
: I frequent take (I believe too much) delight in ejecting idiots.
i prefer to frequent channels where i will be abused by not only channel
ops, but ircops as well. and that, my friends, is why i go to #dragonrealm
on dalnet! i know that before too long, i will be kicked, banned, maybe
even akilled just because the ops there have no sense of humor!
: --
: DALnet, the BEST IRC network on the face of the planet
that's ok because i like the abuse
--
pity this busy monster, manunkind, Dennis Moore Sarah
not. Progress is a comfortable disease. arc...@tamu.edu McLachlan
-e.e. cummings: One Times One archon on the irc "Black"
If I cried me a river of all my confessions would I drown in my shallow regret?
Dennis Moore
dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) wrote:
: channels with similar names. So when the going gets tough and they have to
: do some REAL operating, these dorks havent a clue. And that goes on all
: over efnet! Sometimes when they leave they bring this practise over to
: the alternative networks, but it isnt so prominent.
bahahaha.. if dalnet chanops are so great, why is #dragonrealm constantly
bombarded by whining lusers needing ircops to do this and that and the
other thing? isn't channel registration supposed to solve all that?
CrackBaby
In article <55maq4$l...@nicaragua.earthlink.net>,
kat...@earthlink.net (Katlady) writes:
> Adam -
>
> Poor thing, you mustn't get much...
>
> Try to think with your head instead of your crotch and perhaps you will
> come up with something intelligent to say for a change.
>
> Oh, and incidentally...have you decided yet if you are a boy or a girl?
Dear Pus^H^H^HKatLady,
I'm sure that if you were to take a look at
http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~adhar/ (in particular, the picture of Adam
and his lovely wife), you would realize that he has no worries in this
department.
Btw, have you noticed how large your sig is?
--
CrackBaby
caro...@ou.edu
One, two, McQ's comin' for you ...
Mandar Mirashi
In article <55nk9j$k...@panix2.panix.com>,
dam...@panix.com <dam...@panix.com> wrote:
>Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
>
>: An op's job (and yes, it is a job) is to provide an enjoyable
>: environment for people to chat in, *whatever* the people on the
>: channel deem enjoyable. If you are not ready to do the job, you
>: shouldn't wear an @.
>
>is the culprit in twisting around a function. Efnetters practise opping
>their friends or opping people they've seen before (on one channel I left,
>opping enemies too because they were regular enemies - HAR! What a
>concept!). As you know from a previous post, a friend of mine was kicked
>because some guy decided he didnt like her and he was summarily opped for
>that purpose.
>
>
>This sort of thing doesnt exist on DalNet. Isn't it a good thing? :}
>
As far as I know, Dalnet doesn't require its channel operators to
follow a "mindset" (but then again, I may be overestimating them).
Channels are like houses. Chanops have keys to that house. If you don't
like what happens when you join someone else's house, you're free to
make up your own house (channel) and set up your own rules for it.
Generalizing what happens on one channel to what's acceptable by
everyone on the network is silly. Different people/channels have
different sets of policies, principles, etc. This even differs at an
individual level.
Ohh..and I do recommend Prozac...
Mmmm
--
Mandar Mirashi
Consultant, IBM/ISSC Maintainer: ftp.undernet.org,
Undernet IRC FAQ - ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/alt.irc.undernet
For IRC help/Undernet information, check out http://www.undernet.org
CrackBaby
[non-existant alt.irc.efnet trimmed. Joe, you're a moron.]
In article <55nk9j$k...@panix2.panix.com>,
dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) writes:
> This is the common mindset on alternative networks. The efnet once again
> is the culprit in twisting around a function. Efnetters practise opping
> their friends or opping people they've seen before
And most of the DALnetters who post to alt.irc practice making sweeping
generalizations about everyone on all the other networks. Why do you
suppose that is?
> As you know from a previous post, a friend of mine was kicked
> because some guy decided he didnt like her and he was summarily opped for
> that purpose.
HORRORS! No wonder you left! How can anyone stand to stay around on
a network that permits such actions? I guess it's a good thing DALnet
filters out all Bad Things at the server level.
> This sort of thing doesnt exist on DalNet. Isn't it a good thing? :}
DALnet isn't as pure-hearted and good as you'd like to think! If you
don't believe me, just /msg NickServ info CrackBaby, and you'll see the
bot's depravity.
> CaptBlood
> ==========================================================================
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2047 <-- Black Blade cybercomic Pt.1
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ODD <-- Black Blade Pt.4
> http://www.octet.com/~odd/IRC/30s_haven.html <-- Channel HP & IRC Info Ctr
> http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/5808 <-- The Errol Flynn Homepage
> ==========================================================================
A large sig like this is a sure sign of wankerhood. It's called
"netiquette." Look into it.
Tony Miller
dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) wrote:
>Even Underwearnet's FAQ states the purpose of op status.
>This sort of thing doesnt exist on DalNet. Isn't it a good thing? :}
Actually there's a down side to this...
I seem to be involved in defending against a channel takeover attempt
about once a month. It seems that this character was AKICKed from the
channel for being a jerk. Now true to form, he rears his ugly head
whenever he catches chanserv down, and the net splitting.
In this "protected environment", many ops and regular people don't
have a clue on how to fight this guy. It's usually two or three
people who have to secure one or the other side of the split. :-(
This fellow is pretty good. He clones, and sets channel modes pretty
quickly. But there are more of us, and we can usually hold him off.
But the good news is, it's never permanent. When services come back
up, he's deoped and kicked, and we live happily ever after (until the
next time :-( )
Tony Miller
ad...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Noel Harris) wrote:
>Argh! NO!1!!!1!! I have been victimized by evil netsexing wenches from
>#arabella_sucks!!!! I must run to Uncle ChanServ, who will pertekt me!
>Give me a home where the IRCops /kill, and the k-line team and CSops
>do play; where never is heard a dissenting word, and the skies are not
>friendly all day.
This seems to really bug you, Adam. At the mere mention of ChanServ,
you start hopping around yowling like a scalded cat. :-) You really
have a problem with complete channel ownership and control.
Well, there's no peoblem like that on EFNet. So if you like anarchy,
and enjoy channel wargames, feel free to stay there and play to your
heart's content. :-)
Tony Miller
nua...@twri.tamu.edu (Dennis Moore) wrote:
>dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) wrote:
>: channels with similar names. So when the going gets tough and they have to
>: do some REAL operating, these dorks havent a clue. And that goes on all
>: over efnet! Sometimes when they leave they bring this practise over to
>: the alternative networks, but it isnt so prominent.
>bahahaha.. if dalnet chanops are so great, why is #dragonrealm constantly
>bombarded by whining lusers needing ircops to do this and that and the
>other thing? isn't channel registration supposed to solve all that?
A channel is only as good as the founder and SOPs make it. If they
don't assign enough AOPS to keep the channel under control, then it is
ripe for abuses by people wanting to spoil others' fun.
I personally don't stay on an opless channel.
dam...@panix.com
: nua...@twri.tamu.edu (Dennis Moore) wrote:
: >bahahaha.. if dalnet chanops are so great, why is #dragonrealm constantly
: >bombarded by whining lusers needing ircops to do this and that and the
: >other thing? isn't channel registration supposed to solve all that?
You mean like the way Undernet and Efnet mark their channel +i? Even when
the other help channels are deserted? We've gotten lamers thrown off the
network, and we're grateful for the access to 'realm for real emergencies,
which is why it IS open.
At least it wasnt like the #irchelp channel on NewNet I visited for
homepage info a couple months back. Some whiner got pissed off that his
dumb question wasnt answered and started flooding the channel. Heh a pity
none of the ircops were around to give him some Pampers, cause they were
all set away or concealed on their own locked channel.
You like that better? Go to newNet and have a nice day :}
CaptBlood
Adam Noel Harris
Katlady (kat...@earthlink.net) asked of me:
: In article Adam Noel Harris, ad...@leland.Stanford.EDU says...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[Your attributes need rewriting.]
: Oh, and incidentally...have you decided yet if you are a boy or a girl?
Are you kidding? I haven't even decided if I'm African-American or not.
Sizban
> DALnet, the BEST IRC network on the face of the planet
eh. no.
--
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Tony Miller
caro...@ou.edu (CrackBaby) wrote:
>[non-existant alt.irc.efnet trimmed. Joe, you're a moron.]
>In article <55nk9j$k...@panix2.panix.com>,
> dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) writes:
>> This is the common mindset on alternative networks. The efnet once again
>> is the culprit in twisting around a function. Efnetters practise opping
>> their friends or opping people they've seen before
>And most of the DALnetters who post to alt.irc practice making sweeping
>generalizations about everyone on all the other networks. Why do you
>suppose that is?
I try not to make sweeping generalizations. The few times I've tried
EFnet (and could fine a server on which I wasn't k-lined). I found
the experience quite disconcerting.
It reminded me about back in the 80's when all the idiots bought CBs
just to throw carriers, and disrupt people with their powerful
sideband radios. I turned it off, and never went back.
I'm sure there are nice channels on EFnet with competent ops. It's
just that in my short time there, my disgust level was reached before
I could find them. If you have any suggestions, I might give it
another try.
>> As you know from a previous post, a friend of mine was kicked
>> because some guy decided he didnt like her and he was summarily opped for
>> that purpose.
>HORRORS! No wonder you left! How can anyone stand to stay around on
>a network that permits such actions? I guess it's a good thing DALnet
>filters out all Bad Things at the server level.
Yup, I love that "Bad Thing" filter :-) But seriously, I have found
more order on dalnet, and that order help me chat with my friends and
enjoy myself without being bothered with takeover artists, and
flooders. I vote with my feet.
>> This sort of thing doesnt exist on DalNet. Isn't it a good thing? :}
>DALnet isn't as pure-hearted and good as you'd like to think! If you
>don't believe me, just /msg NickServ info CrackBaby, and you'll see the
>bot's depravity.
I'll have to look it up when I'm there. :-)
>> CaptBlood
>> ==========================================================================
>> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2047 <-- Black Blade cybercomic Pt.1
>> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ODD <-- Black Blade Pt.4
>> http://www.octet.com/~odd/IRC/30s_haven.html <-- Channel HP & IRC Info Ctr
>> http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/5808 <-- The Errol Flynn Homepage
>> ==========================================================================
>A large sig like this is a sure sign of wankerhood. It's called
>"netiquette." Look into it.
Actually, there's nothing wrong with a 6 line sig :-)
Tony Miller
man...@cherokee.wildstar.net (Mandar Mirashi) wrote:
>As far as I know, Dalnet doesn't require its channel operators to
>follow a "mindset" (but then again, I may be overestimating them).
Nope... You can run your channel however you like.
>Channels are like houses. Chanops have keys to that house. If you don't
>like what happens when you join someone else's house, you're free to
>make up your own house (channel) and set up your own rules for it.
>Generalizing what happens on one channel to what's acceptable by
>everyone on the network is silly. Different people/channels have
>different sets of policies, principles, etc. This even differs at an
>individual level.
Sure, but to expand on the analogy, it's like having a house with a 24
hour armed guard. You don't have to worry about someone breaking into
your house, ejecting all of your guests, locking the door so nobody
can get in, etc.
I read the MOTD on one of the few EFnet servers I was on. It said,
and I paraphrase: "if your channel gets taken over, don't come to us,
we don't care, just go to another channel".
>Ohh..and I do recommend Prozac...
Better living through chemistry... :-)
Adam Noel Harris
Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) said this stuff:
: ad...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Noel Harris) wrote:
:
: >Argh! NO!1!!!1!! I have been victimized by evil netsexing wenches from
: >#arabella_sucks!!!! I must run to Uncle ChanServ, who will pertekt me!
: >Give me a home where the IRCops /kill, and the k-line team and CSops
: >do play; where never is heard a dissenting word, and the skies are not
: >friendly all day.
:
: This seems to really bug you, Adam. At the mere mention of ChanServ,
: you start hopping around yowling like a scalded cat. :-) You really
: have a problem with complete channel ownership and control.
Damn, you're the quick study, Tony.
: Well, there's no peoblem like that on EFNet. So if you like anarchy,
: and enjoy channel wargames, feel free to stay there and play to your
: heart's content. :-)
Ah. Finally I have Tony Miller's permission! Yes! The big score. I'm
staying on EFnet now.
Adam Noel Harris
Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) said this stuff:
[about DALnet]
: I seem to be involved in defending against a channel takeover attempt
: about once a month. It seems that this character was AKICKed from the
: channel for being a jerk. Now true to form, he rears his ugly head
: whenever he catches chanserv down, and the net splitting.
Perhaps that's because services exist at one place on the net and are not
distributed? I'm surprised the military hasn't tried to use that strategy
to protect U.S. intelligence networks.
: In this "protected environment", many ops and regular people don't
: have a clue on how to fight this guy. It's usually two or three
: people who have to secure one or the other side of the split. :-(
Many ops on DALnet can't even get their channel back with ChanServ up and
running (they op someone they don't know and are summarily kicked). That
is what the customer-service oriented #dragonrealm is for. And if you
visit a channel that has no active ops because the founder made too few
sops and aops, #dr will come babysit absolutely free of charge!
: This fellow is pretty good. He clones, and sets channel modes pretty
: quickly. But there are more of us, and we can usually hold him off.
Bleh. Learn a lesson from EFnet and move to a different (hopefully
unregistered) channel. If you'll ultimately control the original channel,
why waste your time fighting (I believe you have previously reminded me of
what the "C" in IRC is about)?
: But the good news is, it's never permanent. When services come back
: up, he's deoped and kicked, and we live happily ever after (until the
: next time :-( )
Sounds like EFnet. If the other guy has no support, he won't hold the
channel for long; even less time if everyone leaves and carries on
elsewhere. Ops, in the long haul, go to the people most interested in
running the channel.
Dennis Moore
dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) wrote:
: : nua...@twri.tamu.edu (Dennis Moore) wrote:
:
: : >bahahaha.. if dalnet chanops are so great, why is #dragonrealm constantly
: : >bombarded by whining lusers needing ircops to do this and that and the
: : >other thing? isn't channel registration supposed to solve all that?
:
: You mean like the way Undernet and Efnet mark their channel +i? Even when
#twilight_zone is not a help channel. it is mostly a hangout for ircops.
: the other help channels are deserted? We've gotten lamers thrown off the
: network, and we're grateful for the access to 'realm for real emergencies,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
YM "stupid mistakes that caused us to lose our channel" HTH
: which is why it IS open.
: At least it wasnt like the #irchelp channel on NewNet I visited for
: homepage info a couple months back. Some whiner got pissed off that his
: dumb question wasnt answered and started flooding the channel. Heh a pity
: none of the ircops were around to give him some Pampers, cause they were
: all set away or concealed on their own locked channel.
funny. i've seen the exact same thing happen on #dragonrealm!
Tony Miller
ad...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Noel Harris) wrote:
>Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) said this stuff:
>[about DALnet]
>: I seem to be involved in defending against a channel takeover attempt
>: about once a month. It seems that this character was AKICKed from the
>: channel for being a jerk. Now true to form, he rears his ugly head
>: whenever he catches chanserv down, and the net splitting.
>Perhaps that's because services exist at one place on the net and are not
>distributed? I'm surprised the military hasn't tried to use that strategy
>to protect U.S. intelligence networks.
Actually, Adam, that is a pretty big flaw in the way the services
system operates. I used to have my kill option on in NickServ, but it
got to the point that when NickServ was lagged, it would kill *me*
before I had a chance to identify.
They thought about distributed services, but the increased trafficking
of all the servers keeping in sync was prohibitive. (At least that's
how I understood it).
But so far, it works out pretty good as far as I'm concerned. It's
adequate for my needs.
>: In this "protected environment", many ops and regular people don't
>: have a clue on how to fight this guy. It's usually two or three
>: people who have to secure one or the other side of the split. :-(
>Many ops on DALnet can't even get their channel back with ChanServ up and
>running (they op someone they don't know and are summarily kicked). That
>is what the customer-service oriented #dragonrealm is for. And if you
>visit a channel that has no active ops because the founder made too few
>sops and aops, #dr will come babysit absolutely free of charge!
That is true. Many only know the registration command. I have made
it my business to train my aops in the finer points of ChanServ. I've
asked them to deop and kick me and watch what happens. I then show
them how I mdeop them, and akick them from outside the channel, then
invite myself back in. :-) The fire drills are kind of fun. Keeps
our skills sharp.
>: This fellow is pretty good. He clones, and sets channel modes pretty
>: quickly. But there are more of us, and we can usually hold him off.
>Bleh. Learn a lesson from EFnet and move to a different (hopefully
>unregistered) channel. If you'll ultimately control the original channel,
>why waste your time fighting (I believe you have previously reminded me of
>what the "C" in IRC is about)?
Sure. But the only disadvantage of this is that our friends won't
know where we moved to. (And I have to admit, I actually *like* the
excitement once in a while :-) )
>: But the good news is, it's never permanent. When services come back
>: up, he's deoped and kicked, and we live happily ever after (until the
>: next time :-( )
>Sounds like EFnet. If the other guy has no support, he won't hold the
>channel for long; even less time if everyone leaves and carries on
>elsewhere. Ops, in the long haul, go to the people most interested in
>running the channel.
That is the way it ought to work. IMO, ops isn't a "badge of honor",
or a "clique membership symbol", it's a job, and the job is to make
your lusers' stay on your channel as pleasant as possible,
And I even have to admit, that if you find enjoyment in taking over
and protecting channels, that applies also, but only if everyone is
interested in playing. People have their fun in different ways. :-)
Tony Miller
ad...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Noel Harris) wrote:
>Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) said this stuff:
>: ad...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Noel Harris) wrote:
>:
>: >Argh! NO!1!!!1!! I have been victimized by evil netsexing wenches from
>: >#arabella_sucks!!!! I must run to Uncle ChanServ, who will pertekt me!
>: >Give me a home where the IRCops /kill, and the k-line team and CSops
>: >do play; where never is heard a dissenting word, and the skies are not
>: >friendly all day.
>:
>: This seems to really bug you, Adam. At the mere mention of ChanServ,
>: you start hopping around yowling like a scalded cat. :-) You really
>: have a problem with complete channel ownership and control.
>Damn, you're the quick study, Tony.
Hehehe...
>: Well, there's no peoblem like that on EFNet. So if you like anarchy,
>: and enjoy channel wargames, feel free to stay there and play to your
>: heart's content. :-)
>Ah. Finally I have Tony Miller's permission! Yes! The big score. I'm
>staying on EFnet now.
The ends justify the means. :-)
dam...@panix.com
Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: man...@cherokee.wildstar.net (Mandar Mirashi) wrote:
: >As far as I know, Dalnet doesn't require its channel operators to
: >follow a "mindset" (but then again, I may be overestimating them).
: Nope... You can run your channel however you like.
That's right. Only that some mindsets are moot and therefore never come to
mind :} And what a relief!
: I read the MOTD on one of the few EFnet servers I was on. It said,
: and I paraphrase: "if your channel gets taken over, don't come to us,
: we don't care, just go to another channel".
Yep. Sounds like efnet all right.
: >Ohh..and I do recommend Prozac...
: Better living through chemistry... :-)
heheh I take vitamins >flex< Does that count?
Draeguhn Kaehno
CrackBaby wrote:
[flame of the evil C^HKat woman snipped]
> I'm sure that if you were to take a look at
> http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~adhar/ (in particular, the picture of Adam
> and his lovely wife), you would realize that he has no worries in this
> department.
Oh my gawsh. I liked the picture with the clown better! :)
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Kaehno
IRC Administrator
por...@iconia.net / irca...@goodnet.com
http://www.goodnet.com/~iconia
Joe Burke
On 11/2/96 7:14AM, in message <327b63c...@news.in.net>, Doug Meyer
<dme...@in.net> wrote:
> [On Sat, 02 Nov 96 08:49:28 GMT, net...@teleport.com (Joe Burke) wrote]:
>
> > different IRC Nets and servers for each! I still can't guarantee the
> accuracy
> > of all the information... but I appreciate all the reports I got updating
> > servers and the like. I hope I'll get more until the list is 95% accurate.
>
> Your lists are inferior!
Show me a better one!
> Only 11 servers are listed for DALnet (5 of those are
> down as of about last June). 11 out of the ~80 servers are listed for EFnet.
> There are also about 10 single-server "nets" listed.
This page makes no attempt to list all servers. Anyone who has any clue about
IRC knows you can use the /map command on most of the big nets like EfNet and
Undernet to get a full list of servers. Obviously, you are one of those with
no clue... To list all the servers would be pointless
As for accuracy of the servers, NO ONe can keep them up to date, they change
with the weather. I encourage everyone in my posts and on the page to inform
me of changes and I'll make the corrections. Idiotic flames like this truly do
no on any good and only waste bandwidth.
>
> Don't waste your time trying to go to these lists! It is just a big lame
> worthless pile of animated graphics and old MIDI music.
>
> Doug M.
> dme...@in.net
Funny thing, The page has had almost a thousand hits since my first post a
couple weeks ago and LOTS of nice comments in the guestbook... this is the
first derogatory one I have seen. Guess you can't please all the people all
the time. Do everyone a favor, Doug, and stick to text only gopher sites and
Metallica.
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CrackBaby
In article <N.110696....@netpro.teleport.com>,
net...@teleport.com (Joe Burke) writes:
> This page makes no attempt to list all servers. Anyone who has any clue about
> IRC knows you can use the /map command on most of the big nets like EfNet and
> Undernet to get a full list of servers.
Anyone with a clue knows that /map only works on the Undernet's flavor of
ircd.
> Obviously, you are one of those with
> no clue...
PKB.
> Idiotic flames like this truly do
> no on any good and only waste bandwidth.
You're a fine one to talk about wasting bandwidth, Mr.
Nine-line-bloated-ass-asterisk-wasting-Win95-glorifying-sig
(see below).
> this is the
> first derogatory [response] I have seen.
Only because you've got me kill-filed.
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> -----------
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> * ______ ______ *
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Four lines suffice for most folks.
dam...@panix.com
Dennis Moore (nua...@twri.tamu.edu) wrote:
: dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) wrote:
: : You mean like the way Undernet and Efnet mark their channel +i? Even when
: : the other help channels are deserted? We've gotten lamers thrown off the
: : network, and we're grateful for the access to 'realm for real emergencies,
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: YM "stupid mistakes that caused us to lose our channel" HTH
: : which is why it IS open.
No I was referring to mailbombers and other detrimental (accent on the
"mental") hacks. My you're quick to judge, arent you?
CaptBlood
M. D. Yesowitch
In article <N.110696....@netpro.teleport.com> net...@teleport.com (Joe Burke) writes:
> This page makes no attempt to list all servers. Anyone who has any clue about
> IRC knows you can use the /map command on most of the big nets like EfNet and
> no clue... To list all the servers would be pointless
/map (normally /quote map (IRCII) or /raw map (MIRC) only works on
Undernet based ircds (undernet and DALnet) and is used to show the
topology of the connected ircnet.
To get a list of servers use /links
IRCII comes with a program written by Ian Frechette called IMAP which,
when loaded and run, will show the topology of the ircnet as well.
-m
as any clueful person would know.
****************************************************************************
M.D. Yesowitch yeso...@rocza.kei.com
All Flames to: women-not-to-...@kei.com
http://www.kei.com/homepages/yesowitc/
Dennis Moore
dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) wrote:
wtf do ircops have to do with that? oh wait, i forgot.. this is dalnet!
from one night in #dragonrealm:
<Snowboard> Help i need an IRCOP
<Sleepy> what's up, Snowboard?
<Snowboard> ok... I am being harrased by someone in a room
<Snowboard> he won't leave me alone
<evenstar> Snowboard... how is he harassing you?
<Snowboard> He is making fun of me, threataning to hurt me
<Snowboard> he doesn't want to leave me alone
<Shritis> then ignore him
<Snowboard> BUT HE DOESN'T STOP
<Snowboard> AND I ENJOY MIRC
<Snowboard> HE KEEPS ON DCC ING ME
[=:>] Netsplit detected at 11:37 PM: (spider.ca.us.DAL.net skypoint.mn.us.dal.net)
[=:>] Type wholeft to see who split away. (11:37 PM)
yes! call a DALnet ircop, and they will send out their crack dalnet luser
abuse prevention squad to kick that harasser's ass!
Draeguhn Kaehno
On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Katlady wrote:
[quoting of an entire article for one line reply snipped]
> A pox on you, Kaehno!
Small, chicken, or liver scarring?
The evil C^HKat woman hexxed me. Whatever am I to do?
Adam Noel Harris
Draeguhn Kaehno (por...@iconia.net) said this stuff:
: CrackBaby wrote:
:
: [flame of the evil C^HKat woman snipped]
:
: > I'm sure that if you were to take a look at
: > http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~adhar/ (in particular, the picture of Adam
: > and his lovely wife), you would realize that he has no worries in this
: > department.
:
: Oh my gawsh. I liked the picture with the clown better! :)
Clown? You are very out of touch with the African-American community,
Kaehno.
Joe Burke
This thread has TOTALLY lost site of the original message which was to point
people to what is, I believe, the most complete listing of IRC Nets on the
Internet. It does NOT attempt to list all the servers for each. I suggested
the /map command for Undernet and (erroneously, it turns out) for Efnet.
Thanks to M.D. Yesowitch <yeso...@rocza.kei.com> for the correction... Use the
/links command on EfNet. I haven't found a command that works on DalNet but my
site has been updated to include only (but not ALL) current DalNet servers.
Again the directions to this listing are
http://www.teleport.com/~netpro click on the "Internet" page link and halfway
down that page for the IRC link in bold blue letters
The page is provided as a public service by my company and I welcome any
updates. They will be added the same day they are received.
---------------MY RESPONSE TO THIS LAMER'S POST------------------
On 11/7/96 2:58PM, in message <3282640e...@news.in.net>, Doug Meyer
<dme...@in.net> wrote:
> [On Thu, 07 Nov 96 03:33:17 GMT, net...@teleport.com (Joe Burke) wrote]:
>
> >inform me me of changes and I'll make the corrections. Idiotic flames
> >like this truly do no one any good and only waste bandwidth.
>
>
> Temper, temper! Your flame is the idiotic one, Mr. DUAL-MONITOR
> Win95-promoting Negative Person! So ha! By the way, why would one want to
> use two monitors on their computer system? Must be "2x the fun" for you.
> Get a life.
<snip, snip... drivel deleted>
> Doug M.
> dme...@in.net
This guy really qualifies for the IRC luser of the year award! I won't waste
bandwidth responding to the drivel, but I will answer the direct question. Mr
Meyer wasted an incredible amount of time flaming me both in the newsgroup and
by e-mail but failed to look around my site at all or he would have been able
to answer his own question:
Many people use dual monitors out there in the computer world. Macintosh has
had the capability since the late 1980's. Only recently has it become an
option on windows-based PC's. The company which sells the card I use is called
Tridium Research in the Seattle, Washington area. What this amazing card does
is double the desktop and allow 2 monitors to function as one superwide virtual
screen. The monitors are side by side and fully synchronized and the mouse
moves freely between the two. I can have separate apps on each screen and use
both simultaneously or I can open one like a spreadsheet across both screens.
For IRC, it's really great because I can have mirc up on one screen and be
doing e-mail, newsgroups or web browsing on the other while monitoring a couple
channels in full view all the time. I sometimes will open two copies of mIRC
and have one on one screen with my favorite channel on undernet and use the
other to browse other nets to see what's new. Personally, I love it and have
turned a few other people on to it who are as happy with it as I am. I DO NOT
work for the company (I once did do some marketing for them), but am just
sharing what is absolutely the best feature about my personal computer. I
wrote an article about it for Computer Bits Magazine which will be out next
month... on-line as well.
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Tony Miller
kat...@earthlink.net (Katlady) wrote:
>When it comes to one-on-one harassment between you and another
>individual where flooding, kicking/banning and/or hacking is not
>involved, it is a very simple thing to take care of: you execute an /ignore
>on the static portion of their address and you shut your dcc OFF.
That sounds like a simple solution, but the problem is is that newbies
don't know how to do that. It's pretty frightening when you get
someone who nick and text floods you for the first time. You are
trying to enjoy yourself chatting with your friends, and this happens
I had an opportunity to help a lady out in a channel I was on that
this happened to. I said to her:
o Remain calm. Look at nothing that doesn't have my nick in front of
it.
o Tell me the last nick you remember from this miscreant.
o I executed a /raw whowas and gave her the ban mask to ignore. I
said type the following in exactly. /ignore *!*nick@*domain.com
She thanked me profusely when the problem was over, then I could teach
her exactly what I did in a more calm environment.
But saying "rtfm" to a newbie who is in a crisis situation is a little
cruel.
>The IRCop was well within his rights. Have you read the IRC FAQ? It
>would have told you the same thing(s).
Not really. The IRCop should have either pointed the user to an
appropriate #*help channel, or taken a couple of minutes to help the
user him/herself.
And when you are in a flood situation, it's too late to rtfm.
>Now - if the same person were flooding, or hacking your account, or
>kicking and banning you from your own registered channel - **THAT** is a
>matter for #dragonrealm. Anything simpler you should take some time to
>learn about.
When you're in the middle ot a flood, it's too late to rtfm. :-)
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My opinion and 50 cents will buy you a cup of coffee...
CrackBaby
In article <N.110896....@netpro.teleport.com>,
net...@teleport.com (Joe Burke) writes:
> I suggested
> the /map command for Undernet and (erroneously, it turns out) for Efnet.
> Thanks to M.D. Yesowitch <yeso...@rocza.kei.com> for the correction...
> Use the /links command on EfNet. I haven't found a command that works
> on DalNet
Uhhhh, /links? Golly, Joe, I'd suspect that you'd only been on irc for a
couple of weeks if I didn't remember your posts a few months back when you
were such a big fan of our dear friend Grylie.
> ---------------MY RESPONSE TO THIS LAMER'S POST------------------
-------------------------- ME TOO ----------------------------------
> This guy really qualifies for the IRC luser of the year award!
What exactly are the qualifications for this award? Flaming people who
obviously know more about IRC that yourself perhaps? Thinking /links only
works on EFnet? Having a nine line sig maybe?
> I won't waste
> bandwidth responding to the drivel, but I will answer the direct question. Mr
^^^^^^^^^ PKB. You talk a lot about wasting bandwidth in your
posts, but yet you alway tack that monstrosity of a
sig onto the end.
> Meyer wasted an incredible amount of time flaming me both in the newsgroup and
> by e-mail
I doubt seriously that it took more than five minutes of thought. You're
such an easy target, Joey.
Case in point ...
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I guess this is a small improvement over your last post. You're down to
seven lines now, at least. Are you trying to scale back gradually rather
than just cut it off cold turkey?
Let me make a suggestion:
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See, now isn't that better? It's still ugly, but at least it's McQ.
Draeguhn Kaehno
On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Katlady wrote:
> Administrator, eh? Of a server on which network?
Spare me your witless prattle woman. I administrate Goodnet in regards to
IRC and that's all you need know. If it were important enough for you to
know, you would. :)
> Better yet - let the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits, pubic
> hair and computer!
Grow up.
> Katlady
> (never let it be said I don't have a sense of humour)
You don't have a sense of humor.
CrackBaby
> I suggested
> the /map command for Undernet and (erroneously, it turns out) for Efnet.
> Thanks to M.D. Yesowitch <yeso...@rocza.kei.com> for the correction...
> Use the /links command on EfNet. I haven't found a command that works
> on DalNet
Uhhhh, /links? Golly, Joe, I'd suspect that you'd only been on irc for a
couple of weeks if I didn't remember your posts a few months back when you
were such a big fan of our dear friend Grylie.
> ---------------MY RESPONSE TO THIS LAMER'S POST------------------
-------------------------- ME TOO ----------------------------------
> This guy really qualifies for the IRC luser of the year award!
What exactly are the qualifications for this award? Flaming people who
obviously know more about IRC than you, perhaps? Thinking /links only
works on EFnet? Having a nine line sig, maybe?
> I won't waste
> bandwidth responding to the drivel, but I will answer the direct question. Mr
^^^^^^^^^ PKB. You talk a lot about wasting bandwidth in your
posts, but yet you always tack that monstrosity of a
Dalvenjah FoxFire
Katlady (kat...@earthlink.net) wrote:
: In article Dennis Moore, nua...@twri.tamu.edu says...
: >
: >wtf do ircops have to do with that? oh wait, i forgot.. this is dalnet!
: >from one night in #dragonrealm:
: >
: ><Snowboard> Help i need an IRCOP
: ><Sleepy> what's up, Snowboard?
: ><Snowboard> ok... I am being harrased by someone in a room
: ><Snowboard> he won't leave me alone
: ><evenstar> Snowboard... how is he harassing you?
: ><Snowboard> He is making fun of me, threataning to hurt me
: ><Snowboard> he doesn't want to leave me alone
: ><Shritis> then ignore him
: ><Snowboard> BUT HE DOESN'T STOP
: ><Snowboard> AND I ENJOY MIRC
: ><Snowboard> HE KEEPS ON DCC ING ME
: >[=:>] Netsplit detected at 11:37 PM: (spider.ca.us.DAL.net
: skypoint.mn.us.dal.
: >net)
: >[=:>] Type wholeft to see who split away. (11:37 PM)
: >
: >yes! call a DALnet ircop, and they will send out their crack dalnet luser
: >abuse prevention squad to kick that harasser's ass!
: When it comes to one-on-one harassment between you and another
: individual where flooding, kicking/banning and/or hacking is not
[...]
: Now - if the same person were flooding, or hacking your account, or
: kicking and banning you from your own registered channel - **THAT** is a
: matter for #dragonrealm. Anything simpler you should take some time to
: learn about.
I do have to say, though, that we encourage anyone who's getting flooded
by someone to come find an IRCop and give them logs of the flooder. Flooding
in any form, private or public, does harm the network and is something that
we don't want.
If a user can provide a log of the flood, we ask that the user show the log
to the IRCop, who will then take action.
The person who told the user to ignore the flooder was not an IRCop, and in
fact we discourage that sort of response - if a person is being flooded, the
IRCop is to look into the situation and find out if anything can be done about
it - and if so, take care of the problem user.
-dalvenjah
--
Dalvenjah FoxFire (aka Sven Nielsen) College is a fountain of knowledge...
Founder, the DALnet IRC Network and the students are there to drink.
e-mail: dalv...@dal.net WWW: http://www.dal.net/~dalvenjah/
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Dalvenjah FoxFire
Joe Burke (net...@teleport.com) wrote:
:/links command on EfNet. I haven't found a command that works on DalNet
:but my site has been updated to include only (but not ALL) current DalNet
:servers.
For the most up-to-date list of DALnet servers, you may finger ser...@dal.net.
For a clickable map of DALnet servers, use the URL: http://www.dal.net/servers/
-dalvenjah
--
Dalvenjah FoxFire (aka Sven Nielsen) "The weapon which causes the most
Founder, the DALnet IRC Network damage to the Internet is
the keyboard."
Adam Noel Harris
[undernet trimmed]
Dalvenjah FoxFire (dalv...@dragonlair.dal.net) said this stuff:
: The person who told the user to ignore the flooder was not an IRCop, and in
: fact we discourage that sort of response - if a person is being flooded, the
: IRCop is to look into the situation and find out if anything can be done about
: it - and if so, take care of the problem user.
Hey, Dal, if you're responding to #drealm logs on alt.irc, I've got a few
for ya :) The general theme is of me making an ass of myself, but the
IRCops are always happy to jump in too.
Features
--------
1) My akill after msg'ing (harassing) an IRCop, asking how they manage to
screen out people with senses of humor.
2) An IRCop telling me to make #kidporn-warez-eboai +s because it fits the
#*warez* filter.
3) An IRCop ridiculing me for wanting to force #pot and #reefer (do these
exist?) +s when I say that they are arranging illegal drug trading there.
#pot and #reefer are exceptions because YOU CANNOT DCC DRUGS. The same
episode includes the infamous Gina from Virginia (VA) skit (a must read).
4) Techniques for getting an IRCop to kill you immediately.
-Adam
You know you are bored when....
Tenebreux
kat...@earthlink.net (Katlady) wrote:
> Katlady
> (never let it be said I don't have a sense of humour)
It's a crappy one, but she's got it!!!
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High Flight
Katlady (kat...@earthlink.net) wrote:
: In article Draeguhn Kaehno, por...@iconia.net says...
: >> Better yet - let the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits, pubic
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: >> hair and computer!
: >
: >Grow up.
:
: Been there, done that, cried over it, wrote about it. Haven't got a better
: reply than that? Piiiiiiiiiiiiity. Such a lack of imagination ;-P
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Carnac the Magnificent (sp?), circa mid-70's, and probably dozens before him.
- Jack
~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~
o/~ "Music is God's voice" )Jack Zupan
)j...@apk.net
- Brian Wilson - ) Keet (^,^)
dam...@panix.com
Draeguhn Kaehno (por...@iconia.net) wrote:
: I administrate Goodnet in regards to
: IRC and that's all you need know.
Sheesh that's so true!
We checked out Goodnet in its infancy and found infants in the main
channel when we asked for directions -- too busy talking sci fi to
eachother.
heheheh
Petrus
> : : You mean like the way Undernet and Efnet mark their channel +i? Even when
I can come to the Undernet's defence here...I have been visiting
#wasteland at irregular intervals since the beginning of this year,
which is as long as I've been on the Undernet...and in all of that time
I can't once recall #wasteland being +i. The EFNet I can vouch for thru
one experience...I tried to join #Twilight_Zone just last night...It was
+i. And while we're talking about how wonderful DALNet is, allow me to
inject a small amount of balance. I may not have been on it all that
much, but at the risk of sounding offensive here there are some elements
of DALNet that are way too controlling, in my book...NickServ is the
best example that I can think of. Also, ChanServ comes across to me as
being just a little bit *too* good...I know this is going to sound
strange, but don't you think it is a good idea to have a channel
registration service that is just a *little* vulnerable?? I can give you
an example of what I mean...A few months ago, I and a few other people
were permanently banned from the Undernet's #bible when we tried to
protest about the treatment of a number of people by the channel's ops.
There were a number of people leaving the channel really
offended...Children leaving in tears...And genuine seekers being
alienated from Christianity. Because of X we were unable to perform a
channel takeover, and the only other course of action would have been to
go to #cservice who in all likelihood would have taken weeks before
anything was done...There was also the possibility of the #bible ops
lying about things to any cservice reps who might have come to hear our
case. I am Australian, but I am aware of what it says in the American
constitution about the people's rights to bear arms against the day that
they will have to defend their country from it's government. And I say
we need something similar in channels on IRC. If the channel
registration services are made impregnable, it will mean that our only
other recourse of action in the event of bad ops is admin defined
beauracracy. If I was ever going to start my own IRC server, or net of
servers, and I hope to perhaps look at doing something local with some
relatives soon, I would not have a channel registration service, for the
above stated reason.
--
Petrus
Petrus
Hi Tony,
> But saying "rtfm" to a newbie who is in a crisis situation is a little
> cruel.
As you said above, saying rtfm in the crisis situation is definitely a
bit harsh...And I think it's great that you taught the woman in question
how to protect herself...But by the same token, once the initial crisis
is over, then rtfm would definitely be my advice to any and all
newbies...You'd be amazed at how many channel ops I seem to have known
who have had only a very superficial idea of how to use banning in
particular...Some on Christian channels for instance thought that in
normal circumstances it meant typing something like "!ban" which might
have been the command to do it thru one of the channel's Guard or Bible
bots!! I guess if you've never used the commands before, then some
benefit of the doubt can be given...But not much. I myself took the
initiative to read the Undernet FAQ, the history file, Nap's IRC primer
and the old IRC FAQ pretty soon after I first got here, and I don't see
why anyone else can't do the same. :)
> And when you are in a flood situation, it's too late to rtfm.
Yep, which as said above, means that perhaps they should have taken time
out to at least read *something* before they first signed on. Flooding
*seems* to be becoming a fairly rare occurrence in my perception on the
Undernet these days, and I can't speak for EF or DAL, but surely if you
dive straight in completely unprepared, then you're asking for a flood.
:)
--
Petrus
Petrus
Hi Tony,
> >: >Argh! NO!1!!!1!! I have been victimized by evil netsexing wenches from
> >: >#arabella_sucks!!!! I must run to Uncle ChanServ, who will pertekt me!
> >: >Give me a home where the IRCops /kill, and the k-line team and CSops
> >: >do play; where never is heard a dissenting word, and the skies are not
> >: >friendly all day.
ROFL!!!! It's funny you know...I don't find anything about evil
netsexing wenches annoying... <evil grin>
> >: Well, there's no peoblem like that on EFNet. So if you like anarchy,
> >: and enjoy channel wargames, feel free to stay there and play to your
> >: heart's content. :-)
Every time I've looked there the EFNet seems to have become locked up
tighter than a drum...I have no idea how people are running clones from
the same user@host, what with all the server login tests I get when I go
to sign onto the EFNet. Really disappointed me actually, cos
occasionally I have felt like some war games, or just a nice free net,
only to find out that it didn''t seem to be that any more at all! :(
> >Ah. Finally I have Tony Miller's permission! Yes! The big score. I'm
> >staying on EFnet now.
>
And no, I couldn't stay on EFNet, much as I prolly would otherwise...But
the love of my life is a die hard Undernetter, seemingly...she doesn't
want to leave...And so I hang around the Undernet... <grin>
> The ends justify the means. :-)
>
> --
> DALnet, the BEST IRC network on the face of the planet
--
Petrus
Mandar Mirashi
In article <3285A9...@connexus.apana.org.au>,
Petrus <pet...@connexus.apana.org.au> wrote:
>
> but don't you think it is a good idea to have a channel
>registration service that is just a *little* vulnerable?? I can give you
>an example of what I mean...A few months ago, I and a few other people
>were permanently banned from the Undernet's #bible when we tried to
>protest about the treatment of a number of people by the channel's ops.
[..snip..]
>Because of X we were unable to perform a
>channel takeover, and the only other course of action would have been to
>go to #cservice who in all likelihood would have taken weeks before
>anything was done...There was also the possibility of the #bible ops
>lying about things to any cservice reps who might have come to hear our
>case.
Cservice does not interfere with the actual running of a channel and
who gets opped and who gets banned. That is the responsibility of the
channel operators. Channels are like houses. If you don't like what
goes on in a particular house, you're always welcome to start your
own house.
Mmmm
--
Mandar Mirashi
Consultant, IBM/ISSC Maintainer: ftp.undernet.org,
Undernet IRC FAQ - ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/alt.irc.undernet
For IRC help/Undernet information, check out http://www.undernet.org
Steven Sobol
Four-Color Fiend (sh...@panix.com) wrote:
: spend very little time on efnet as the trouble makers seem far fewer on
: the smaller servers.
I imagine this has a direct correlation to the fact that the other nets
are somewhat smaller...
--
Steve Sobol, Cleveland, OH Tech Support/Customer Service, NACS.NET
-also- Win 95 Programmer and Head Geek, North Shore Technologies
sjs...@nacs.net | "Stupid people shouldn't breed."
sjs...@nstc.com | --Chris Yanella
Steven Sobol
Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: Well, there's no peoblem like that on EFNet. So if you like anarchy,
: and enjoy channel wargames, feel free to stay there and play to your
: heart's content. :-)
I use EFNet regularly, almost every day, and only extremely rarely
do any of the channels I frequent get taken over.
Soooooo... what's your point? :)
Steven Sobol
Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: I try not to make sweeping generalizations. The few times I've tried
: EFnet (and could fine a server on which I wasn't k-lined). I found
: the experience quite disconcerting.
And WHY, pray tell, were you k-lined?
: I'm sure there are nice channels on EFnet with competent ops. It's
: just that in my short time there, my disgust level was reached before
: I could find them. If you have any suggestions, I might give it
: another try.
"It's just that in my short time there, I ran out of servers to try
before I could find them."
Unfortunately, I couldn't find the X-Moron: header in Tony's post.
Oh, Tony: You are the newest recipient of the Alt.IRC Lamer Cl00bie Loser
award! You should feel honored. Errr... no, you shouldn't.
Jo Hornsby
kat...@earthlink.net writes:
>
> In article Adam Noel Harris, ad...@leland.Stanford.EDU says...
> >
> >Ah, so you're mad at hackboys and their ilk because they interrupt your
> >cyberlays? Now you're starting to make sense.
> >
> >-Adam
>
> Adam -
>
> Poor thing, you mustn't get much...
Oh no! I thought that I had finally defeated them last time, but
I must have been wrong. It's THE RETURN OF THE ELLIPSIS!!!
Run for your lives people! No longer are we safe in this environment!
No longer can we rely on text being faithfully transmitted! No longer
can we be sure of what we receive!
I for one, wanted to know what Adam wasn't supposed to be getting much of,
but it looks like I shall never know. It would seem that I am doomed
to a lifetime of pondering this very question, and others, as a result
of THE RETURN OF THE ELLIPSIS!!!
Be careful, Katlady, for I fear you have already been infected. If
you're lucky though, we might have caught it early, and in that case
you have one small chance of survival. Yes, you must return to EFnet,
the One True Network, and never deviate from it thereafter. &;)
> Oh, and incidentally...have you decided yet if you are a boy or a girl?
Well, (and excuse me here please, Mr. Harris, Sir), it's obvious that
Adam is a god. Does the sex matter?
- Jo. &:)
--
Sometimes: J.M.H...@exeter.ac.uk
Othertimes: j...@marownet.demon.co.uk
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Ryan Tucker
Adam Noel Harris wrote:
> Petrus (pet...@connexus.apana.org.au) said this stuff:
>
> : There were a number of people leaving the channel really
> : offended...Children leaving in tears...And genuine seekers being
> : channel takeover,
>
> Well, folks, now I've heard it all. Channel Hackers for Christ.
>
> Jesus.
The Lord made me +islkmb 1 ILoveElvis *!*@* it!! -rt
--
Ryan Tucker <rtu...@ttgcitn.com>
TTGCITN Communications
http://www.ttgcitn.com/~rtucker
Welcome to Hell. Would you like the Macarena or Ice Ice Baby?
Tony Miller
Petrus <pet...@connexus.apana.org.au> wrote:
>we need something similar in channels on IRC. If the channel
>registration services are made impregnable, it will mean that our only
>other recourse of action in the event of bad ops is admin defined
>beauracracy.
Repeat after me, Petrus: "ChanServ is my friend... ChanServ is my
friend... ChanServ is my friend..." Believe it yet?
You have no recourse on *my* channel. That's right. It's *my*
channel. My users don't make the decisions of what goes on in *my*
channel *I* do.
*My* channel is not a democracy, it is a benign dictatorship. *I* am
the dictator. Those who I trust carry out *my* wishes. Period.
If you want to join *my* channel, you are free to. But you will
follow *my* rules (which will be enforced by *my* AOPS in *my*
abscence).
That having been said, people vote with their feet. If I'm a prick,
I'll be the only one on my channel, and that's no fun. But the fact
is, if you don't like the rules of the channel, you are welcome to
vote with your feet and go elsewhere.
Long live ChanServ! Long may he enforce. :-)
F`Nar
>A few months ago, I and a few other people
>were permanently banned from the Undernet's #bible when we tried to
>protest about the treatment of a number of people by the channel's ops.
>There were a number of people leaving the channel really
>offended...Children leaving in tears...And genuine seekers being
>alienated from Christianity. Because of X we were unable to perform a
>channel takeover, and the only other course of action would have been to
>go to #cservice who in all likelihood would have taken weeks before
>anything was done...There was also the possibility of the #bible ops
>lying about things to any cservice reps who might have come to hear our
>case. I am Australian, but I am aware of what it says in the American
>constitution about the people's rights to bear arms against the day that
>they will have to defend their country from it's government. And I say
>we need something similar in channels on IRC.
One of the tenets of most nets is that, barring felonious activity in
most cases, what is done in a channel is up to the channel's founder.
You don't like what's being done in the channel? Leave it. Is your
/part command broken?
> If the channel
>registration services are made impregnable, it will mean that our only
>other recourse of action in the event of bad ops is admin defined
>beauracracy.
I can think of another "recourse". Start your own channel and run it
your way.
> If I was ever going to start my own IRC server, or net of
>servers, and I hope to perhaps look at doing something local with some
>relatives soon, I would not have a channel registration service, for the
>above stated reason.
What will it be? irc.takeover.net?
--
F`Nar - Dalnet #mircnewbies
F`Nar
On Fri, 08 Nov 96 09:23:18 GMT, net...@teleport.com (Joe Burke) wrote:
> I suggested
>the /map command for Undernet and (erroneously, it turns out) for Efnet.
>Thanks to M.D. Yesowitch <yeso...@rocza.kei.com> for the correction... Use the
>/links command on EfNet. I haven't found a command that works on DalNet
Funny, /links works on Dalnet every time. Has been for a long time
and, I suspect, will continue to work in the future.
Maybe you spelled /links wrong.
F`Nar
On Wed, 06 Nov 1996 16:23:38 GMT, comput...@worldnet.att.net (Tony
Miller) wrote:
>caro...@ou.edu (CrackBaby) wrote:
>>A large sig like this is a sure sign of wankerhood. It's called
>>"netiquette." Look into it.
>Actually, there's nothing wrong with a 6 line sig :-)
Other than the fact that it's 3 lines too long. "'netiquette.' Look
into it."
Dalvenjah FoxFire
CrackBaby (caro...@ou.edu) wrote:
: [non-existant alt.irc.efnet trimmed. Joe, you're a moron.]
: And most of the DALnetters who post to alt.irc practice making sweeping
: generalizations about everyone on all the other networks. Why do you
: suppose that is?
Because DALnet is better than any other network? }:>
: HORRORS! No wonder you left! How can anyone stand to stay around on
: a network that permits such actions? I guess it's a good thing DALnet
: filters out all Bad Things at the server level.
And to think we didn't even have to code it in - it EVOLVED! Pretty
nifty, eh? }:>
: > This sort of thing doesnt exist on DalNet. Isn't it a good thing? :}
: DALnet isn't as pure-hearted and good as you'd like to think! If you
: don't believe me, just /msg NickServ info CrackBaby, and you'll see the
: bot's depravity.
-NickServ- *** CrackBaby is my love master, and I'm his kinky slave.
An alternative lifestyle is depraved? Hm...no wonder you hold the views you
do. DALnet's open to everyone and anyone who wants to chat and have a good
time. (Save, of course, for people who do things illegal.)
Besides, why bash DALnet? There're so many more things out there to
have fun with, like Bob Dole, Adam's love life, etc. etc. etc. }:>
-dalvenjah
--
Dalvenjah FoxFire (aka Sven Nielsen) May the schwartz be with you!
Founder, the DALnet IRC Network
CrackBaby
In article <56911n$7...@news1.ucsd.edu>,
dalv...@dragonlair.dal.net (Dalvenjah FoxFire) writes:
> CrackBaby (caro...@ou.edu) wrote:
>: [non-existant alt.irc.efnet trimmed. Joe, you're a moron.]
>
>: And most of the DALnetters who post to alt.irc practice making sweeping
>: generalizations about everyone on all the other networks. Why do you
>: suppose that is?
>
> Because DALnet is better than any other network? }:>
Hmmm, I was thinking more along the lines of "because NickServ sends out
subliminal brain-washing messages." I'll have to ask her about it next
time I've got her under my whip.
> -NickServ- *** CrackBaby is my love master, and I'm his kinky slave.
>
> An alternative lifestyle is depraved?
Not in my book! On the contrary, I had a lot of fun tying up NickServ
and putting her to the lash. She's quite obediant, you know! Once I
break her of this "nick kill enforcement" business, she'll make a
wonderful submissive.
> Besides, why bash DALnet?
Government-enforced quotas! Duh.
> There're so many more things out there to have fun with, like Bob Dole,
> Adam's love life, etc. etc. etc. }:>
^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^
http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~adhar/picture.html
Now, let's see a picture of *your* wife, eh? :)
--
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M. D. Yesowitch
In article <56044m$p...@uruguay.earthlink.net> kat...@earthlink.net (Katlady) writes:
> From: kat...@earthlink.net (Katlady)
> >
> >Grow up.
>
> Been there, done that, cried over it, wrote about it. Haven't got a better
> reply than that? Piiiiiiiiiiiiity. Such a lack of imagination ;-P
I think he should have opted for a few like these:
"You should grow like an onion, with your head in the ground"
"You should inherit a million dollars and a batch of hungry relatives
who won't give you a minutes peace."
"May you have everything you ever wanted but lose the ability to go to
the bathroom."
-m
May you end up with a wife and cat?
****************************************************************************
M.D. Yesowitch yeso...@rocza.kei.com
All Flames to: women-not-to-...@kei.com
http://www.kei.com/homepages/yesowitc/
M. D. Yesowitch
/links will work on any IRC server based on GLP ircd code (any
version). It is one of the oldest commands available on irc.
-m
It's nice to see something that's been on irc longer than I have.
Johnston A
Dalvenjah FoxFire (dalv...@dragonlair.dal.net) wrote:
: : And most of the DALnetters who post to alt.irc practice making sweeping
: : generalizations about everyone on all the other networks. Why do you
: : suppose that is?
: Because DALnet is better than any other network? }:>
I really wonder what they feed these people that think DALnet is the best.
It has more lag than EFnet and Undernet combined and they only have half the
users.
: : HORRORS! No wonder you left! How can anyone stand to stay around on
: : a network that permits such actions? I guess it's a good thing DALnet
: : filters out all Bad Things at the server level.
: And to think we didn't even have to code it in - it EVOLVED! Pretty
: nifty, eh? }:>
Censorship nifty ?
: : > This sort of thing doesnt exist on DalNet. Isn't it a good thing? :}
: : DALnet isn't as pure-hearted and good as you'd like to think! If you
: : don't believe me, just /msg NickServ info CrackBaby, and you'll see the
: : bot's depravity.
: -NickServ- *** CrackBaby is my love master, and I'm his kinky slave.
: An alternative lifestyle is depraved? Hm...no wonder you hold the views you
: do. DALnet's open to everyone and anyone who wants to chat and have a good
: time. (Save, of course, for people who do things illegal.)
: Besides, why bash DALnet? There're so many more things out there to
: have fun with, like Bob Dole, Adam's love life, etc. etc. etc. }:>
Good point comparing Bob Dole and DULnet :)
: -dalvenjah
: --
: Dalvenjah FoxFire (aka Sven Nielsen) May the schwartz be with you!
: Founder, the DALnet IRC Network
Ah ... I wonderd where that delusion came from. People don't usulay criticise
their own kids even if they are the worst. :)
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UnderTow
Alistair Johnston AI student---------VU Amsterdam ajo...@cs.vu.nl
Adam Noel Harris
Dalvenjah FoxFire (dalv...@dragonlair.dal.net) said this stuff:
: Besides, why bash DALnet? There're so many more things out there to
: have fun with, like Bob Dole, Adam's love life, etc. etc. etc. }:>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But DALnet is so much a part of my love life!
-Adam
Brian Hauber
sjs...@nacs.net (Steven Sobol) wrote:
>Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
>: I try not to make sweeping generalizations. The few times I've tried
>: EFnet (and could fine a server on which I wasn't k-lined). I found
>: the experience quite disconcerting.
>And WHY, pray tell, were you k-lined?
Why, because he's on att.net, which probably has as worse a reputation
as netcom. The lUsers there insist on cloning. Even DALnet of all
places has problems with att.net.
>Unfortunately, I couldn't find the X-Moron: header in Tony's post.
Like your posts are any more informitive or whitty.
>Oh, Tony: You are the newest recipient of the Alt.IRC Lamer Cl00bie Loser
>award! You should feel honored. Errr... no, you shouldn't.
OH WOW! CAN I BE A LAMER CL00BIE TOO? PLEASE? I'M BEGGING YOU! I WANT
TO BE IN THE ELITE GROUP WITH ALL THE OTHER HONOREES!!!!!!!!!
>sjs...@nacs.net | "Stupid people shouldn't breed."
>sjs...@nstc.com | --Chris Yanella
I sure hope you plan in living by that quote in your signature.
--
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wc on EFnet http://pobox.com/~bhauber
PGP fingerprint = DC 4C 06 41 04 72 A9 3A 35 82 4A 9E 19 16 13 27
Tony Miller
sjs...@nacs.net (Steven Sobol) wrote:
>Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
>: Well, there's no peoblem like that on EFNet. So if you like anarchy,
>: and enjoy channel wargames, feel free to stay there and play to your
>: heart's content. :-)
>I use EFNet regularly, almost every day, and only extremely rarely
>do any of the channels I frequent get taken over.
>Soooooo... what's your point? :)
The point was, someone was railing about channel services on DALnet.
I was commenting on the lack of takovers on DALnet as opposed to
EFnet.
And how often is "extremely rarely"? :-)
Tony Miller
sjs...@nacs.net (Steven Sobol) wrote:
>Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
>: I try not to make sweeping generalizations. The few times I've tried
>: EFnet (and could fine a server on which I wasn't k-lined). I found
>: the experience quite disconcerting.
>And WHY, pray tell, were you k-lined?
Simple. They don't like people from AT&T. They k-lined the domain.
Their choice. Their loss (IMO)
>: I'm sure there are nice channels on EFnet with competent ops. It's
>: just that in my short time there, my disgust level was reached before
>: I could find them. If you have any suggestions, I might give it
>: another try.
>"It's just that in my short time there, I ran out of servers to try
>before I could find them."
>Unfortunately, I couldn't find the X-Moron: header in Tony's post.
>Oh, Tony: You are the newest recipient of the Alt.IRC Lamer Cl00bie Loser
>award! You should feel honored. Errr... no, you shouldn't.
Cool! Can you send it to me so I can mount it proudly on my wall?
But I haven't getten my name on the ultra lame fill-in-the-blank flame
form. That would make my entire week.
dam...@panix.com
: : Well, there's no peoblem like that on EFNet. So if you like anarchy,
: : and enjoy channel wargames, feel free to stay there and play to your
: : heart's content. :-)
: I use EFNet regularly, almost every day, and only extremely rarely
: do any of the channels I frequent get taken over.
Is the channel you hang on set +s or +p ?
CaptBlood
==========================================================================
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2047 <-- Black Blade cybercomic Pt.2
Tony Miller
akl...@villagenet.com (F`Nar) wrote:
>>caro...@ou.edu (CrackBaby) wrote:
I already did. The nettiquette rules I read said "keep it under 7".
CrackBaby
In article <56cq0u$1...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
comput...@worldnet.att.net (Tony Miller) writes:
>
> I already did. The nettiquette rules I read said "keep it under 7".
The George McQuary standard, recognized by most experienced usenetters, is
4 lines by 80 columns.
http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/afw/
CrackBaby
In article <56cq12$1...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
comput...@worldnet.att.net (Tony Miller) writes:
> But I haven't getten my name on the ultra lame fill-in-the-blank flame
> form. That would make my entire week.
Dear:
[X] Tony Miller
You are being flamed because:
[X] You are Tony Miller
In order to repent you must:
[X] Stop being Tony Miller
In conclusion, I'd like to say:
[X] Happy now? :)
Ryan Tucker
Johnston A wrote:
> Dalvenjah FoxFire (dalv...@dragonlair.dal.net) wrote:
> : And to think we didn't even have to code it in - it EVOLVED! Pretty
> : nifty, eh? }:>
>
> Censorship nifty ?
Censorship? Since when did censorship enter into this discussion? Give
me an example of censorship on DALnet. *taps foot* I'm waiting ;-)
Tony Miller
caro...@ou.edu (CrackBaby) wrote:
>In article <56cq12$1...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> comput...@worldnet.att.net (Tony Miller) writes:
>> But I haven't getten my name on the ultra lame fill-in-the-blank flame
>> form. That would make my entire week.
>Dear:
>[X] Tony Miller
>You are being flamed because:
>[X] You are Tony Miller
>In order to repent you must:
>[X] Stop being Tony Miller
>In conclusion, I'd like to say:
>[X] Happy now? :)
Wa-HOO!!! I'm somebody now!!!! You have made my week. :-)
Tony (cl00bie on DALnet)
Russ Allbery
In alt.irc, Tony Miller <comput...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
> akl...@villagenet.com (F`Nar) wrote:
>> comput...@worldnet.att.net (Tony Miller) wrote:
>>> Actually, there's nothing wrong with a 6 line sig :-)
>> Other than the fact that it's 3 lines too long. "'netiquette.' Look
>> into it."
> I already did. The nettiquette rules I read said "keep it under 7".
Who wrote them? B1FF?
--
Russ Allbery (r...@cs.stanford.edu) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
dam...@panix.com
Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: >Dear:
: >[X] Tony Miller
: >You are being flamed because:
: >[X] You are Tony Miller
: >In order to repent you must:
: >[X] Stop being Tony Miller
: >In conclusion, I'd like to say:
: >[X] Happy now? :)
: Wa-HOO!!! I'm somebody now!!!! You have made my week. :-)
Hey Tony you were ripped off -- that's just the short form!
heheeh
Adam Noel Harris
Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) said this stuff:
: caro...@ou.edu (CrackBaby) wrote:
: >Dear:
:
: >[X] Tony Miller
: Wa-HOO!!! I'm somebody now!!!! You have made my week. :-)
:
: Tony (cl00bie on DALnet)
Dear:
[X] DALnet user [X] Tony Miller
You are being flamed because:
[X] You are Tony Miller [X] cl00bie on DALnet is redundant
[X] You think you are somebody
In order to repent you must:
[X] Stop being Tony Miller [X] Seduce someone on the k-line team
[X] Admit that U R 0 31337
In conclusion, I'd like to say:
[X] I feel giddy.
[X] HTH.
dam...@panix.com
CrackBaby (caro...@ou.edu) wrote:
: In article <56cq0u$1...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
: comput...@worldnet.att.net (Tony Miller) writes:
: >
: > I already did. The nettiquette rules I read said "keep it under 7".
: The George McQuary standard, recognized by most experienced usenetters, is
: 4 lines by 80 columns.
: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/afw/
Ever thought of starting up the news group rec.arts.anal-retentive ?
You'd be a model experienced usenetter.
Tenebreux
bha...@pobox.com wrote:
> comput...@worldnet.att.net (Tony Miller) wrote:
> >>And WHY, pray tell, were you k-lined?
>
> >Simple. They don't like people from AT&T. They k-lined the domain.
> >Their choice. Their loss (IMO)
>
> I've yet to see anyone of worth come from att.net, yourself included.
> You know what they about opinions... they're like assholes, because
> everyone has one, and they're usually full of shit.
Also, they stink.
I'd like to take this opportunity to wish unhappiness to rival Job on Tony
Miller. (I'd make a DETH THREAT, but Joe Bay taught me the error of my
ways.)
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|lemonade and paper hats and you can't come 'cause you're punks and punks |
|don't go to parties! -- Space Ghost |
Brian Hauber
comput...@worldnet.att.net (Tony Miller) wrote:
[snip]
>>And WHY, pray tell, were you k-lined?
>Simple. They don't like people from AT&T. They k-lined the domain.
>Their choice. Their loss (IMO)
I've yet to see anyone of worth come from att.net, yourself included.
You know what they about opinions... they're like assholes, because
everyone has one, and they're usually full of shit.
[snip]
>>Oh, Tony: You are the newest recipient of the Alt.IRC Lamer Cl00bie Loser
>>award! You should feel honored. Errr... no, you shouldn't.
>Cool! Can you send it to me so I can mount it proudly on my wall?
>But I haven't getten my name on the ultra lame fill-in-the-blank flame
>form. That would make my entire week.
You should just be honored you even got mentioned. As you shall see,
your name has been added to the fill-in-the-blank flame form... so I
guess your week is made.
>My opinion and 50 cents will buy you a cup of coffee...
Must not be a very good cup of coffee.
CrackBaby
In article <56e6te$q...@panix2.panix.com>,
dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) writes:
> Ever thought of starting up the news group rec.arts.anal-retentive ?
Are you sure anal-retentive is supposed to be hyphenated???
Dennis Moore
dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) wrote:
: CrackBaby (caro...@ou.edu) wrote:
: : The George McQuary standard, recognized by most experienced usenetters, is: Ever thought of starting up the news group rec.arts.anal-retentive ?
: You'd be a model experienced usenetter.
:
ever thought of starting up the news group
alt.irc.channel.politics.whine.whine.whine ?
--
pity this busy monster, manunkind, Dennis Moore Sarah
not. Progress is a comfortable disease. arc...@tamu.edu McLachlan
-e.e. cummings: One Times One archon on the irc "Black"
If I cried me a river of all my confessions would I drown in my shallow regret?
yep yep
In article <565jit$8...@tracy.nacs.net>, sjs...@nacs.net says while
drooling profusely...
>
>Tony Miller (comput...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
!
!: I try not to make sweeping generalizations. The few times I've tried
!: EFnet (and could fine a server on which I wasn't k-lined). I found
!: the experience quite disconcerting.
!
!And WHY, pray tell, were you k-lined?
Lots of k-lines on efnet are very arbitrary. There may certainly be
k-lines out of need, but there are also k-lines out of ego. I got a
k-line once because of my username (hi brian2!). Any protestations to
the contrary will be ignored as more sjsobol-type-dribble.
!: I'm sure there are nice channels on EFnet with competent ops. It's
!: just that in my short time there, my disgust level was reached before
!: I could find them. If you have any suggestions, I might give it
!: another try.
!
!"It's just that in my short time there, I ran out of servers to try
!before I could find them."
You really didn't catch the spirit of the previous posters comments.
I can identify with the persons sentiments, as I've had much the
same experience. There is a real reason why Efnet attracts the type
of users that it does, and why it also discourages the type of users
it does.
!Unfortunately, I couldn't find the X-Moron: header in Tony's post.
Feel free to use it since its available then.
!Oh, Tony: You are the newest recipient of the Alt.IRC Lamer Cl00bie Loser
!award! You should feel honored. Errr... no, you shouldn't.
Its not really a prestigious award tho, as Steve calls himself a
win95 programmer, and thus has no credibility here.
Tony Miller
oct...@hargray.com (yep yep) wrote:
>!Oh, Tony: You are the newest recipient of the Alt.IRC Lamer Cl00bie Loser
>!award! You should feel honored. Errr... no, you shouldn't.
> Its not really a prestigious award tho, as Steve calls himself a
> win95 programmer, and thus has no credibility here.
Awwww, yep... say it isn't so... You've cheapened my award in my eyes.
It's no longer prestigious enough to hang on my wall. I guess I'll
have to line the bird cage with it.
--
Carey Jones
Adam Noel Harris <ad...@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
: In order to repent you must:
: [X] Stop being Tony Miller [X] Seduce someone on the k-line team
I suggest Selestra. /msg Hendrix on EFnet for some helpful tips for
this conquest.
- Carey
dam...@panix.com
CrackBaby (caro...@ou.edu) wrote:
: In article <56e6te$q...@panix2.panix.com>,
: dam...@panix.com (dam...@panix.com) writes:
: > Ever thought of starting up the news group rec.arts.anal-retentive ?
: Are you sure anal-retentive is supposed to be hyphenated???
HAHAHAHAHAAAA! aheh
Jason T. Nelson
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:10:48 GMT, Tony Miller <comput...@worldnet.att.net> scribbled:
>>[X] You are Tony Miller
>>[X] Stop being Tony Miller
>Wa-HOO!!! I'm somebody now!!!! You have made my week. :-)
No.. you're still nobody, but at least you're classified.
--
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Mercury Computer Systems, Inc Chelmsford, MA
PGP fingerprint = C5 13 96 4F 7C 75 7E 4B AB 0A A4 CE AA 4C 43 72
disclaimer: I speak for no one but myself.
Zoo
Johnston A (ajo...@cs.vu.nl) wrote:
: I really wonder what they feed these people that think DALnet is the best.
: It has more lag than EFnet and Undernet combined and they only have half the
: users.
lag isn't as bad as it use to be but the thing I can't stand are the
freaking splits every 5 mins.. :-/
CrackBaby
In article <56gt26$i...@bolivia.earthlink.net>,
kat...@earthlink.net (Katlady) writes:
> There are lags and splits because the network is overloaded. Know why
> it's overloaded? Because anyone with any sense of decency is flocking
> there to get away from people like Adam, and CrackBaby, and their
> fun-loving group of lamers!
Yes! Flock! Flock for your lives! Bahahahahahaha.
--
CrackBaby <caro...@ou.edu>||<crac...@eboai.org> | Fan club email:
brian2
On 15 Nov 1996, Katlady wrote:
> Got a clue for you, cl00bies out there that think DALnet is so bad (and, no I
> don't mean you, Tony:) --
I don't see why you don't mean Tony, he's as much of a "cl00bie" as you
are, and as those you profess to be speaking to are. Might as well call a
spade a spade here.
>
> There are lags and splits because the network is overloaded. Know why
> it's overloaded? Because anyone with any sense of decency is flocking
> there to get away from people like Adam, and CrackBaby, and their
> fun-loving group of lamers!
And anyone with any sense of clue knows that we're on DALNet as well. Not
because the network is better, we just like to sit around and make fun of
"cl00bies" like yourself. Speaking of fun-loving group of lamers, seems
like you have your own group (hi, #dragonrealm!) over there. Get the same
amount of traffic EFNet has, see how your "friendly" opers handle it, then
come talk to me.
Oh, or perhaps they come over there to netsex such 'l33t chix as yourself
and Moonchaser? Hmm?
> -=**{Opinions expressed are entirely my own}**=-
I should hope so. I don't think anyone else would be interested in
claiming them. Aside, maybe, from the gestapo^H^H^H^H^Hcrack k-line team.
Tony Miller
m...@eboai.org (Carey Jones) wrote:
A little misplaced animosity there, Carey? Did you find yourself
k-lined? Did you rant and rave? I would have paid to see that one.
I have the greatest respect for the k-line team (Selestra in
particular). They keep DALnet safe for those of us who like to
*chat*. (You know... chat? That's what the "C" stands for in IRC)
Carey Jones
Tony Miller <comput...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
: m...@eboai.org (Carey Jones) wrote:
: >I suggest Selestra. /msg Hendrix on EFnet for some helpful tips for
: >this conquest.
: A little misplaced animosity there, Carey? Did you find yourself
: k-lined? Did you rant and rave? I would have paid to see that one.
Nah...if I held grudges for being k-lined, I would've suggested Frazz
or HoopyCat or a bunch of others who I can't recall right now.
: I have the greatest respect for the k-line team (Selestra in
: particular). They keep DALnet safe for those of us who like to
: *chat*. (You know... chat? That's what the "C" stands for in IRC)
I know...chatting with Selestra is quite a satisfying experiance, and I
can get you logs for proof!
- Carey
Jason T. Nelson
On 15 Nov 1996 02:36:29 GMT, Zoo <z...@pcwnet.com> scribbled:
All they need to do is get rid of those 28.8k PPP links in their network ;)
Johnston A
Katlady (kat...@earthlink.net) wrote:
: Got a clue for you, cl00bies out there that think DALnet is so bad (and, no I
: don't mean you, Tony:) --
What's your point? Even cloobies think it's bad? I would hate to know what
cluefull users find of it :)
: Katlady
: --
:uncc.nc.us.DAL.net 251 lkjg :There are 3859 users and 601 invisible
on 28 servers
(note that the : is server output, not quote)
If DALnet finds that overloaded ...
UnderTow
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http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ajohnst/--------------------------------------
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Jason T. Nelson
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:22:57 GMT, Tony Miller <comput...@worldnet.att.net> scribbled:
>A little misplaced animosity there, Carey? Did you find yourself
>k-lined? Did you rant and rave? I would have paid to see that one.
Why? I didn't pay and I saw somebody get k-lined for merely talking to a
DULLnet oper. How fascist! So much for the "friendly" net..
>I have the greatest respect for the k-line team (Selestra in
>particular). They keep DALnet safe for those of us who like to
>*chat*. (You know... chat? That's what the "C" stands for in IRC)
I have no respect for people that pester system administrators that do NOT
care about this foolish game called IRC. They take their "jobs" too seriously.
Also, I cannot have respect for somebody who represents an "organization"
who tries to tell customers of one ISP to go to another merely because
the "organization" saw it necessary to k-line an entire domain. That's just
plain rude and socially unacceptible.