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Jorgen Hallbeck

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Nov 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/13/96
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On three consecutive nights have I attempted to connect to the Undernet
through various European servers. All I get from the server in my own country
(se.undernet.org) is "Connection closed" or "All lines busy", which is a
bunch of crap. How can all lines be busy at 2 AM in the middle of the week?

Connecting to other servers often takes many minutes, and after the waiting
is through, often others are so lagged that conversation is meaningless.

Is this going to continue indefinitely, and if not, when is supply going to
match the demand for IRC services? Can anyone tell me anything? All I want to
do is chat a bit on IRC.

Jorgen H


tha...@tdl.com

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Nov 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/14/96
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On 13 Nov 1996 21:53:08 GMT, jor...@swipnet.se (Jorgen Hallbeck)
wrote:

>On three consecutive nights have I attempted to connect to the Undernet
>through various European servers. All I get from the server in my own country
>(se.undernet.org) is "Connection closed" or "All lines busy", which is a
>bunch of crap. How can all lines be busy at 2 AM in the middle of the week?
>

Sorry to hear you're experiencing the same problem I've experienced
for the last several weeks now. Guess this proves that it is not the
fault of my ISP, as some posters to this group would try to suggest.
While it may seem that 2 AM your time would not be busy, remember that
2 AM your time is probably prime evening time in most of the US, and
consequently, when everyone and their brother is online in the US! :((

>Connecting to other servers often takes many minutes, and after the waiting
>is through, often others are so lagged that conversation is meaningless.
>

Sucks, doesn't it?

>Is this going to continue indefinitely, and if not, when is supply going to
>match the demand for IRC services? Can anyone tell me anything? All I want to
>do is chat a bit on IRC.
>

I would imagine it will go on indefinitely, as the backbone that
provides service to the Internet has real problems, due to the
overcrowding.

-th
>


Mandar Mirashi

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Nov 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/14/96
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In article <56dg04$g...@mn5.swip.net>,

Jorgen Hallbeck <jor...@swipnet.se> wrote:
>On three consecutive nights have I attempted to connect to the Undernet
>through various European servers. All I get from the server in my own country
>(se.undernet.org) is "Connection closed" or "All lines busy", which is a
>bunch of crap. How can all lines be busy at 2 AM in the middle of the week?
>
>Connecting to other servers often takes many minutes, and after the waiting
>is through, often others are so lagged that conversation is meaningless.
>
>Is this going to continue indefinitely, and if not, when is supply going to
>match the demand for IRC services? Can anyone tell me anything? All I want to
>do is chat a bit on IRC.
>
>Jorgen H
>

Heya,

I believe swipnet.se was banned a while ago due to abusers from that
domain and no response from the ISP sysadmins. I just checked - Lulea still
has the ban up. I suggest you contact your ISP and request that they
contact the IRC admins at Lulea (lu...@undernet.org). Thanks

Mmmm
--
Mandar Mirashi
Consultant, IBM/ISSC Maintainer: ftp.undernet.org,
Undernet IRC FAQ - ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/alt.irc.undernet
For IRC help/Undernet information, check out http://www.undernet.org

Matt Hallacy

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Nov 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/17/96
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> Sorry to hear you're experiencing the same problem I've experienced
> for the last several weeks now. Guess this proves that it is not the
> fault of my ISP, as some posters to this group would try to suggest.
> While it may seem that 2 AM your time would not be busy, remember that
> 2 AM your time is probably prime evening time in most of the US, and
> consequently, when everyone and their brother is online in the US! :((
>
> >Connecting to other servers often takes many minutes, and after the waiting
> >is through, often others are so lagged that conversation is meaningless.
> >
> Sucks, doesn't it?

>
> >Is this going to continue indefinitely, and if not, when is supply going to
> >match the demand for IRC services? Can anyone tell me anything? All I want to
> >do is chat a bit on IRC.
> >
> I would imagine it will go on indefinitely, as the backbone that
> provides service to the Internet has real problems, due to the
> overcrowding.
>
> -th
> >

There is a lack of good *.Eu.UnderNet.Org servers and there has yet
to be anyone who applied that would make a good server lately,
maybe you should ask your local university or maybe your ISP if
they would like to host an UnderNet server, go to ftp.undernet.org
and get the newlinks form :)

Good luck.

Huw Jones

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Nov 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/17/96
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try the new dublin one - makes european life a lot easier

mudt...@demon.co.uk

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Nov 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/21/96
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zeb...@amharc.demon.co.uk (Huw Jones) wrote:

>try the new dublin one - makes european life a lot easier


Yeah - its really easy to log on to - for what - A server that is
totally insular - no connections to any other server. Well this was
the case last week. And when you could see someone else that was on
another server you were hopelessly lagged (I'm talking minutes here)


Tarbaby (spawn)


Jonathan Gilpin

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Nov 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/21/96
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In article <84852677...@mudtower.demon.co.uk>, mudt...@demon.co.uk
says...
True. However, London.uk.eu.undernet.org is backup now and has alot less
lag to the states than most other EU --> USA connections. if you have
problems connecting, try port 6666, it normally gets me on first time.

Lets look forward to Aladdin and other ISP's upgrading their backbone :-)


Jonathan Gilpin
Ferrago@

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