>In article <13739392.02022...@posting.google.com>,
>patbl...@hotmail.com (Pat Blakely) wrote:
>
>> When she types on her keyboard.
>>
>> Sara Salzman lied in message:
>>
>> >
>> > Not to mention the fact that Don and his little sockpuppets began
>> > posting in alt.revisionism in January of 2000, or thereabouts. Well
>> > before any lawsuits were filed.
:
>> Caught in another lie.
>>
>> Doc Tavish said:
>>
>> "That lawsuit was filed in December 1999 and you were around before
>> then!"
I notice you left out me catching you in YOUR lie Donald Ray Ellis!
>> Everytime Sara opens her mouth, a lie comes out. The mentally ill tend
>> to do such things. Scott, Patrick "photo" Humphrey and Sara Salzman
>> all have been caught lying tonight. Is anyone else going to jump in on
>> the liar brigade?
>>
>> We will keep track of them.
Just as I have kept track of your latest criminal acts and have found numerous
archives which show your criminality way back too!
Care to deny this you criminal thug bastard?
Case 1999-C-2786
Lehigh County Courthouse
Allentown, Pennsylvania
REQUESTS FOR ADMISSION
NOW COMES Plaintiff Yale F. Edeiken and demands that, pursuant to Rule
4014, Pennsylvania Rules of Civil Procedure, ....
.... 11. That Donald Ellis has published material under the pseudonyms
"Mike Kalvatis," "Pat Blakely," "RevWhite" and "Rabbi Brimstone."
<end>
Here is a web based e-zine which has difficulty in identifying Ellis as Blakely
but as most of us know-- Don Ellis is Pat Blakely is Mike Kalvatis..
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,12761,00.html
(Link active February 24, 2002)
Who Owns Hate on the Net?
by Steve Silberman
5:05 a.m. June 5, 1998 PDT
"Patrick Blakely -- infamous on Usenet and Internet Relay Chat as RevWhite.."
Blakely is identified as Rev White now let's see what this watchdog group has on
his activities:
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,1469,00.html
(Link active February 24, 2002)
Undernet Shaken by Anti-Porn Crusade
by Steve Silberman
2:38 p.m. Jan. 15, 1997 PST
[...]
<STOP>
As a summary- Don Ellis aka Pat Blakely did the following criminal acts:
1) forged email and Usenet posts
2) unleashed denial-of-service attacks
3) posted unlisted telephone numbers
4) made direct threats to those who voice opposition or assist IRC
channels targeted by RevWhite's campaign.
5) At least one Undernet operator, whose nick was "Judi," resigned her volunteer
post following threats made to her life and that of her 9-year-old daughter
6)"After that, he'd (RevWhite) come on IRC with nicks like 'KillJudi,'" Judi
says. "He'd say anything ... to somehow prove that I am, as he claims ... a
child molester."
7) "He called and told me that he intends to kill my child," she continues. I
started getting phone calls from all kind of freaks that he'd given my number
to.
8) IRC operators say an inflammatory post RevWhite made to a white-supremacy
newsgroup bore Mirashi's address - a tactic that, Leth-Nissen points out, can be
especially damaging as more and more employers use Dejanews to compile
background information on potential employees.
9) Jeff Field, aka "Terabyte," a 14-year-old Web designer who hosts
Windows-related help channels on the Undernet, says that he helped Don Ellis'
brother Richard run an Undernet server in Arkansas after receiving a request for
assistance on a mailing list. (The availability and willingness of Undernet
operators to assist users is one of the things that distinguishes the Undernet
from the other major IRC networks, such as EFNet). The server had been online
for a month or so, and "Don was going to become an operator," Field recalls,
"but I had to de-link the server from the network after somebody started
changing the settings." One day after the server was removed from the Undernet,
Field says,
10) he was subjected to a massive, disabling ICMP data-flood, originating in
Arkansas.
11) Field's name also started appearing on Usenet posts that he hadn't written,
implying that Field himself - an honors student in 9th grade - was a supporter
of child pornography.
Here are comments by your victims- Don Ellis:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SCO.3.95.970106200628.15801B-100000%40snark.wizard.com&output=gplain
From: Must have been a Wild Angel <ange...@snark.wizard.com>
Subject: Re: Why the Undernet cannot censor kid porn channels
Date: 1997/01/06
Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.95.970106...@snark.wizard.com>
references: <01bbfaa1$49abdfe0$3a2182d0@campbelc> <32CF6E...@hotmail.com>
to: Bill Robinson <bigg...@hotmail.com>
content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
organization: @wizard.com
mime-version: 1.0
reply-to: Must have been a Wild Angel <ange...@snark.wizard.com>
newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.undernet
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Bill Robinson wrote:
> They have been banned just for speaking out also. That is equally wrong,
> if they are flooding that is understandable. But I have seen one of them
> glined because they just felt like it. No reasoning behind it.
This is just one example of the behavior exibited by the *cough*
esteemable RevWhite while using the Undernet.org IRC network.
Please note a few things.
THe UseriD DIEFAGS..remember the rev says he's not a racisit or hate
monger.
The IRCNAME/REAL NAME slot: niggers are filthy , nigger research
institute
THe NIcks lesboh8r, GayBasher, ircopfag, Diefaggot, Diequeer, etc..
This from the man who profess's to be a christian and not racisit.
Now NOte the Administrative impersonations and threats.
NICKS: KillJUdi,Diejudi (Judi is a former IRCop for the Undernet.org who
has been harrassed and stalked by the psydo RevWhite, somehow obtaining
her unlisted phone number and crank calling her and threatening her via
the phone, threatening her child, Obtained her home address and threatend
to "pay her a little visit")
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Care to deny what Steve Silberman and Judi accused you of doing as "RevWhite"?
As a reminder: Steve Silberman detailed: "At least one Undernet operator, whose
nick was "Judi," resigned her volunteer post following threats made to her life
and that of her 9-year-old daughter "After that, he'd (RevWhite) come on IRC
with nicks like 'KillJudi,'" Judi says. "He'd say anything ... to somehow prove
that I am, as he claims ... a child molester." .. "He called and told me that he
intends to kill my child," she continues. I started getting phone calls from all
kind of freaks that he'd given my number to."
Judi detailed: "Judi is a former IRCop for the Undernet.org who
has been harrassed and stalked by the psydo RevWhite, somehow obtaining
her unlisted phone number and crank calling her and threatening her via
the phone, threatening her child, Obtained her home address and threatend
to "pay her a little visit")
Care to count the federal crimes you haven't answered for you g.d. bastard?
I am going to do my best to cointact these people and give thenm your real
identity, address and phone number so they may take action against you too!
Notice the news groups I am posting to and the new subject title!
More of you criminal harassment and smear:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=01bbaffe%24e9930120%24df3d46c7%40worldnet.att.net.worldnet.att.net&output=gplain
From: "psb" <p...@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Sorry Irc operators abusers, PSB is still on.
Date: 1996/10/02
Message-ID: <01bbaffe$e9930120$df3d...@worldnet.att.net.worldnet.att.net>#1/1
organization: Bell Atlantic Internet Solutions
newsgroups: alt.irc
According to the lair and pro child molester irc operator Judi, RevWhite is
still on the irc and will continue to be on the irc has long has he feels
like it. There is nothing that the child molesting supporting irc opertors
can do about it. Especially Irc Op Judi who has been caught ICMP'ing the
at&t server and CapVideo who also has done that. These irc operators who
support child molesters will be stopped either by people on the net or in
person. If you support IRC Undernet Operators, you support child
molesters. Efnet and Dalnet help elminiate child molester channels,
Undernets helps them out. Think about it.....
PSB
here to stay, nothing they can do about it.
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Here is a post made by "Pat Blakely" as <st...@worldnet.att.net>:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=323B488E.7592%40worldnet.att.net&output=gplain
From: Breadman <st...@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: AT&T
Date: 1996/09/14
Message-ID: <323B48...@worldnet.att.net>#1/1
references: <3235F8...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
<517e68$1...@nerd.apk.net>
content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
organization: AT&T WorldNet Services
mime-version: 1.0
reply-to: st...@worldnet.att.net
newsgroups: alt.irc
x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I)
You win the alt.irc lame cl00bie loser award! wrote:
>
> john fatino <jac...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know if you can use IRCs with at&t worldnet??
> >Thanx.
>
> Apparently you can... I think alt.irc's resident asshole
> PSB/RevWhite/DJK is on Worldnet.
Gee, so smart of you freak. But which of the 3 am I? Yes you can use
irc, I don't recommend Undernet, they have child molester bots there
that invite children in rooms like #13kids and such. Try Dalnet, much
better, irc ops are not abusive, and also a worldnet help channel is set
up there. Any more questions, feel free to mail me. Always happy to
help.
PSB
Fighting to clean up the child porn in Undernet that is supported by irc
operators allowing eggdrop bots to exist in Child porn channels.
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Of course here is post made by "Patrick Blakely" using the
<st...@worldnet.att.net> e-mail address:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=4sp17f%249vb%40mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net&output=gplain
From: Patrick Blakely <st...@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Homosexuals vs. Blacks?? Who is worse??
Date: 1996/07/19
Message-ID: <4sp17f$9...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>#1/1
content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
organization: AT&T WorldNet Services
mime-version: 1.0
newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
x-mailer: Mozilla 1.22ATT (Windows; U; 16bit)
Simple question for discussion, what is worse. A black or a homosexual,
or given a choice, who would you choose to get rid of in this country??
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=4v0nmi%24ss9%40uhura.phoenix.net&output=gplain
From: jupi...@tgn.net
Subject: Re: IRC COP ABUSE
Date: 1996/08/16
Message-ID: <4v0nmi$s...@uhura.phoenix.net>#1/1
references: <Pine.LNX.3.91.96081...@proweb.cica.fr>
<3213B3...@worldnet.att.net>
organization: Phoenix Data Net (713) 486-8337 http://www.phoenix.net
newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii,alt.irc.undernet
Patrick Blakely <st...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>This is a common place on the Undernet. ...
It is astonishing to me that these claims are always made by those
people who make IRC'ing miserable for others by flooding,
channel-takeovers and other abusive, threatening behaviors. You abuse
the servers, the server admins and the users and then whine that there
is no justice on IRC. You preach of high morals and ethics while you
scare innocent users by threatening them, their connections and in
some cases, their very privacy. It's amazing how morally outraged a
gangster gets when the gun is turned on him. ...
I have been accused by the next David Koresh, RevWhite, of being a child
molester, corrupter of the innocent, bla bla bla...
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=01bbefad%24f7590e50%24671267cf%40terrabyte&output=gplain
From: "Jeff Field" <tera...@voicenet.com>
Subject: Defending myself
Date: 1996/12/22
Message-ID: <01bbefad$f7590e50$671267cf@terrabyte>#1/1
organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290
newsgroups: alt.irc.undernet
RevWhite/Don Ellis is posting lies, because he has something personal
against me, which I do not understand as even his brother wade who ran the
server said he has no problem with me, I don't see what his problem is. The
e-mails being sent around are being faked, as anyone can see by reading the
header.
-Jeff
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
All you need to do is cross Don Ellis and he will post child porn ads forged in
your identity or something along those lines!
Here is Ellis caught forging e-mail:
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Does everyone see the pattern which never changes?
Here is Don Ellis forging fourteen year old Jeff Fields:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=32C6CABD.7B22%40undernet.org&output=gplain
From: Jeff Field <Ia...@undernet.org>
Subject: I am 14. I help support child porn on Undernet
Date: 1996/12/29
Message-ID: <32C6CA...@undernet.org>#1/1
cc: d...@seark.net, routi...@undernet.org,
content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
organization: I am Gay
mime-version: 1.0
reply-to: Ia...@undernet.org
newsgroups: alt.irc
x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)
I am Jeff Field.
I am 14.
Undernet allows minors like me to control it's cservice.
I can get rid of W on #gayboysex
But I don't want to. I think all minors should be access child porn.
I am 14.
I have been spamming several e-mails.
I am not a adult, I am under control of my mommy.
I have to go now, My mommy is calling me.
Please Mr President, let me keep accessing my child porn and my power
over it.
Jeff...
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Again-- Does everyone see the pattern which never changes?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=32caa9a6.2404973%40news.inet.tele.dk&output=gplain
From: hob...@post1.tele.dk (Rasmus Underbjerg Pinnerup)
Subject: RevWhite impersonating Terabyte ?
Date: 1996/12/30
Message-ID: <32caa9a6...@news.inet.tele.dk>#1/1
content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
mime-version: 1.0
newsgroups: alt.irc
Ok, have been watching this debate, and I think I would like to offer
my .25 Danish Crowns worth:
Hmm, it seems like RevWhite has gone into the business of
impersonating people.
1. He posts this message, apparently trying to imitate Mandar and
Super.
******************************
>Coming soon, A new totally unified page devoted to Undernet and t heir
>support for Child porn.
>--
>Mandar and Super
>Undernet support Team.
******************************
Have a look at the headers, you will find this:
NNTP-Posting-Host: slip166-72-222-228.md.us.ibm.net
Path:news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in3.uu.net!165.87.194.248!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net!not-for-mail
2. Then he posts another message, obviously faking both email and
everything else he can get his hands on.
******************************
>I am Jeff Field.
>I am 14.
>Undernet allows minors like me to control it's cservice.
>I can get rid of W on #gayboysex
>But I don't want to. I think all minors should be access child porn.
>I am 14.
>I have been spamming several e-mails.
>I am not a adult, I am under control of my mommy.
>I have to go now, My mommy is calling me.
>Please Mr President, let me keep accessing my child porn and my power
>over it.
>Jeff...
******************************
Looking at the headers we again find:
NNTP-Posting-Host: slip166-72-222-228.md.us.ibm.net
Path:news-feed.inet.tele.dk!arclight.uoregon.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!
worldnet.att.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!165.87.194.248!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!
news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net!not-for-mail
(Admitted, the posting took a different route this time, but it came
from the same server)
Now, of course, someone could be impersonating PSB aka RevWhite, but
if you have a look at the headers of his other posts, you will see
that they all have certain similarities:
These headers are identical for all his posts, and for these two too,
wherefore it is to be assumed that the poster of these two badly faked
posts, is, in fact, the real RevWhite aka PSB.
NNTP-Posting-Host: slip166-72-222-*.md.us.ibm.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Look at this everyone:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=32c7e2df.623141%40news.dial.pipex.com&output=gplain
From: cbro...@pobox.co.uk (Chris Brookes)
Subject: Re: New Main Undernet Supports kiddie porn Home Page
Date: 1996/12/29
Message-ID: <32c7e2d...@news.dial.pipex.com>#1/1
references: <32C6C5...@undernet.org>
content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
organization: PO Box 69
mime-version: 1.0
reply-to: cbro...@pobox.co.uk
newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.undernet,alt.irc.dalnet,alt.flame
On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:26:46 -0500, RevWhite <psb...@ibm.net> wrote:
>Coming soon, A new totally unified page devoted to Undernet and t heir
>support for Child porn.
The above came with this in it's header:
Subject: New Main Undernet Supports kiddie porn Home Page
Reply-To: revw...@geocities.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: slip166-72-222-228.md.us.ibm.net
(now skip along a few articles and there is...)
> I am Jeff Field.
> I am 14.
> Undernet allows minors like me to control it's cservice.
[cut]
With this in it's header:
Subject: I am 14. I help support child porn on Undernet
Reply-To: Ia...@undernet.org
NNTP-Posting-Host: slip166-72-222-228.md.us.ibm.net
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Note the nym of: RevWhite <psb...@ibm.net> and here is the author's profile:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=%20&as_uauthors=psb...@ibm.net&hl=en
For a fact "Pat Blakely" has used the above e-mail address:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=32D594B8.487B%40hotmail.com&output=gplain
From: Patrick Blakely <psb...@ibm.net>
Subject: Ways a woman can lift a man.
Date: 1997/01/09
Message-ID: <32D594...@hotmail.com>#1/1
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.3.93.970129011317.15854C-100000%40kiowa.wildstar.net&output=gplain
From: Mandar Mirashi <man...@wildstar.net>
Subject: "RevWhite" = Patrick Blakely. Raymond Miller = Don Ellis
Date: 1997/01/29
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.93.970129...@kiowa.wildstar.net>#1/1
followup-to: poster
content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
organization: WildStar Internet Services
mime-version: 1.0
newsgroups:
alt.irc,alt.irc.undernet,alt.politics.white-power,alt.skinheads,alt.revisionism
220- mail.gte.net Sendmail 950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AutoCF Ready at Fri, 24
Jan 1997 21:23:12 -0600
220 ESMTP spoken here
VRFY nri
250 Patrick Blakely <n...@mail.gte.net>
VRFY ray
250 Donald Ellis <r...@mail.gte.net>
quit
221 mail.gte.net closing connection
Connection closed by foreign host.
- ----
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Sooner or later Don Ellis' chickens will come home to roost. For anyone wishing
to file a lawsuit against or file a police report concerning Don Ellis here is
where to find him and it is 100% verified by him personally as I show here:
From: "Don Ellis" (aka Pat Blakely) <d...@seark.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
References: <gs537ushmn3p9ub1a...@4ax.com>
<3C71BC67...@niggers.com>
Subject: Re: How pitiful Andrew Clemmer
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID: <5A9e8.2234$hK4.1...@e420r-atl1.usenetserver.com>
X-Complaints-To: ab...@usenetserver.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 12:40:17 EST
Organization: WebUseNet Corp. - "ReInventing The UseNet"
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 12:02:13 -0600
Xref: mindspring alt.revisionism:1272652
Yes, the caller id logged your number,
Andrew Clemmer
619-465-****
"Tom Shelly, White God" <ap...@niggers.com> wrote in message
news:3C71BC67...@niggers.com...
> So...our little Rob/Mike is a dumb bankrupt hick from Star City. How
> pathetic. No wonder he harbors so much hate.
>
> This number has been verified:
>
> Donald Ray Ellis
> 108 E. Victory St
> Star City
> AR, USA 71667-5800
> Phone: (870) 628-1437
>
> I talked to some dumb fat hick woman undoubtedly wearing a moo-moo and
> sandals. (like JGB's wife)
>
> hahaha
> haha
>
> Tom Shelly
<END>
Thanks for the verification Don er I mean Pat er whatever! I am sure that this
post will make its rounds to all of your victims past and present and now that
they will know how to get in contact with you it is possible that a bunch of
chickens will come home to roost for you!
BTW I hope that Jeff's parents sue you too as detailed here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=32C8333D.48DE%40eyecandy.com&output=gplain
From: John Leth-Nissen <eyec...@eyecandy.com>
Subject: Re: I am 14. I help support child porn on Undernet
Date: 1996/12/30
Message-ID: <32C833...@eyecandy.com>#1/1
references: <32C6CA...@undernet.org>
Jeff Field did not write (actual poster is RevWhite go figure):
> I am Jeff Field.
> I am 14.
> Undernet allows minors like me to control it's cservice.
> I can get rid of W on #gayboysex
> But I don't want to. I think all minors should be access child porn.
[...]
> I am not a adult, I am under control of my mommy.
> I have to go now, My mommy is calling me.
> Please Mr President, let me keep accessing my child porn and my power
> over it.
[...]
RevWhite,
Sir, you have just sunk below the level of childmolester in my book. You
obviously don't give a damn about children and are out on some personal
ego trip to get as much attention for yourself as possible. You are the
epitome of hipocrisy. You are a liar, bigot, and it sounds like you are
becoming a stalker with this personal harrasment of a 14 year old. I
strongly urge you to seek professional mental help. If you can't afford
it there are many free or "pay what you can afford" services. Your local
United Way can refer you to a source in your area.
I sincerly hope Jeff and his parents take legal action against you.
----
DeadelviS a.k.a. John Leth-Nissen
dead...@eyecandy.com
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
I will see to it to the best of my ability all of these people know who you are
and where you are!
>> Pat
>Oh, I made a mistake. I meant to say 1999.
I see it was an honest mistake BUT Don Ellis is "honest" about his lying about
him not being around before December 1999! See this archive to see him really
nailed:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_ugroup=alt.revisionism&as_uauthors=%20&as_umsgid=qohj7ukn5fqb3ajvo...@4ax.com&num=20&hl=en
Subject: The Facts Are: Don Ellis Infested alt.revisionism Before December 1999
aka Re: Sara Salzman humilation and lie #2 - How can you tell when Sara is
lying?
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 00:10:17 -0600
Message-ID: <qohj7ukn5fqb3ajvo...@4ax.com>
>Oh, I'm so devastated. Oh, Donnie's going to keep track of my mistakes.
I am keeping track of all of his criminal acts and I have found he was quite
criminal way back too. He actually sent real death threats to a woman and her 9
year old daughter which I have fully documented here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=u0hi7u07n6mbgstlf...@4ax.com&hl=en
Subject: MUST READ!! Supplement: Pat Blakely is Documented by Steve Silberman as
Making Death Threats Against a 9 Year Old Girl
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 16:44:24 -0600
Message-ID: <u0hi7u07n6mbgstlf...@4ax.com>
>Oh, I'm so frightened. Oh, I guess I'd better stop posting in alt.revisionism.
>Donnie has scared me so terribly.
I think Donnie is the one who's scared. I am going to contact the D.O.J. about
Donnie stalking me and harassing me on account of my disability and smearing me
on account of my "handicap" using these resources:
http://www.usdoj.gov/discrimination.htm
The Department's Civil Rights Division is the primary institution within the
federal government responsible for enforcing federal statutes prohibiting
discrimination on the basis ... handicap.
Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) Information Line
1-800-514-0301 or 1-800-514-0383 (TDD)
I think harassing a person and belittling him on account of his documented and
certified medical condition and posting pictures of his residence with
derogatory remarks and his financial status will get some attention.
>Sara
>
>PS. I suppose that's what you wanted to see, Don/Pat. Too bad I'm not
>going anywhere.
Neither am I but if I have my way Don Ellis will reside at Leavenworth, Kansas!
Scott Bradbury
---
"One of these days, someone is really going to make you eat your words
you son of a bitch." --Don Ellis aka Pat Blakely aka Rob Stewart aka Mike
Kalvatis - 22 Jan 2002 <m4tp4ushtruo6s7d2...@4ax.com>
"Scott \"Doc Tavish\" Bradbury" <t--av-i...@i-x.ne-tco-m.comRemoveAllHyphens2Mail> wrote in message news:<73718u4056vosubhc...@4ax.com>...