is my JAZ drive dying? very strange symptoms.....
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2940 ultrawide card (hard drives on the "wide" bus) with 50 pin
connection to the JAZ which is sharing cable with a plextor
ultraplex40max CDROM and plextor 12/4/32 CDR drives on the "ultra" bus
been using the jaz about 5 years with no problems, have 8 jaz disks
i've been using during this time quite frequently as well as using the
CD drives, with no problems so i THINK all is hunkydory as far as SCSI
termination goes (i do not remember how i have things setup as far as
with terminators or IDs, but it has been working for so long i don't
think this is a SCSI problem)
today i tried simply copying some large backup files to the jaz and
after getting to same point each time, the copying process slows down
to molasses, the estimated time to completion increases from 2 minutes
to 4 minutes to 8 minutes to 12 minutes to 20 something to 80 something
to up and up and up, and during this time i notice that the plextor
CDROM starts "going crazy" for no reason
it seems like the PC is switching between the JAZ and the CDROM every 2
or 3 seconds - why that would be i have no idea
i've reproduced this behavior several times today after cold booting &
repeating the copies....acts same way even with different jaz disks
i've formatted disks and tried again but same thing happens; i even let
one go for over an hour and eventually it gave me a blue screen of
death with a message of something like "cannot read from drive L:"
(which is the jaz drive)
after another disk format i tried running scandisk on the jaz disk but
eventually this same thing happened with it too!!!! researching things
on the net now i think i've learned that you are not supposed to run
scandisk on jaz disks???? but that is besides the point (?)
could this be a problem with the drive hardware itself?
or a coincidental problem with multiple drive cartridges?
or something with the SCSI bus/cable/etc?
or what????????
any clues appreciated!!!!
i am running the "TIP" program now looking for ideas there, and so far,
at 18% through, it shows "620 soft errors" but 3 hours worth of
scanning to go (i will have to try running it through
tomorrow).....UPDATE....that test now shows 1286 soft errors and over 4
HOURS TO GO (!?!?!?!?!?!?)
thanks for any help whatsoever
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DRIVE, rather than the cartridges
& the program goes on to say that IOMEGA supposedly guarantees their
drives for life (?)
has anyone ever been able to return a defective drive to IOMEGA for
replacement? and if so, how????
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i just found this on IOMEGA's website
https://iomega-na-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/iomega_na_en.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=14417
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North America Warranty Terms and Conditions - All Other Products
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North America Warranty Terms and Conditions - All Other Products
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Iomega® Drive Warranty Terms and Conditions
* Coverage
Excluded Products and Problems
Remedies
Obtaining Warranty Service
Limitations
Coverage
Iomega® warrants this hardware product to be free from defects
in materials and workmanship for the warranty period. This
non-transferable, limited warranty is only to you, the first end-user
Purchaser. The warranty begins on the date of purchase and lasts for
the period specified below:
o Peerless™, Jaz®, FotoShow™, and HipZip™ drives: one
(1) year
so i guess it is out of warranty despite what T.I.P. says
sigh
Eric
There was a period of time that Iomega was covering out-of-warranty zip
drives but I believe that period has passed. I ran into this same situation
with my scsi insider Zip100 earlier this past Spring. I called Iomega and
they informed me that their warranty extension had expired.
I had a similar problem with drive access where my scsi card (a 2940U2W)
would try to access both my CD and CD-RW back and forth and then windows
would pop up with a BSOD. It turned out that software I was running from
Toshiba was causing problems. This is called Toshiba's Cool Little Tool. It
allows you to set some drive parameters from a Control Panel Applet. It
works great for Toshiba's IDE drives but not for their scsi drives.
You may have a similar problem. Have you recently installed some software,
drivers, or OS updates? It could be interfering with your scsi bus.
Eric
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i've not installed any new software or anything like that that i know
of, but i'm not sure
and all i was doing was trying to copy files from my hard drive to the
jaz, when at roughly the same point every time i do it, it slows down
to molasses then it seems like the bus goes crazy, switching from the
cdrom to the jaz
both of my cdrom and cdr drives seem to be working aok though by
themselves so i am kind of leaning away from something messing up the
bus, thinking that the jaz drive itself is causing the problem (?)
i'm going to pick up another jaz drive & see if the same thing
happens....the TIP test seemed to say that mine was bad anyways
if i learn for 100% what is going on i will post the details up here
Inverse Opinions
100. (Oldtek)
I've had it since about '98, and it's still running fine- the disks will die
in a period of about 2-3 years, though. I've looked around, and that's the
shelf life of almost all of these disks, used or not. I'm actually surprised
you got 5 years out of it altogether.
My suggestion is to try a new disk, and see if the problem's still there. I
keep having the problem with the "2 minutes/4 minutes" message, but that's
when the OS is having a rag day over the problem. No offence to our female
members.
I doubt it's the drive itself, however, otherwise the head may need fixing,
whereby I'd recommend searching your oldtek shops for a thing listed as
"zipclean - cleans your drive in minutes". It didn't clean it in minutes;
actually it took about a day and a half, but clean it did. It's made by a
Singaporean company, if anyone has luck finding stuff about it, I'd be
happier. I lost mine back in '00 when I moved.
Cheers