Warchalking..
ShadowWarrior
have the program netstumbler (www.netstumbler.com) and link ferret running.
I found 49 wireless network access points between work and home (14miles)
and only 7 of the 41 were WEP encrypted. Hmmm wonder what the others are
doing.
joh...@n0sq.net
They're probably not using WEP because of the publicity that it is "easily"
broken. Either that or they're technically incompetent or too lazy to
implement it. Anyway, they'd probably be better off using VPN and a
firewall. Besides, you need to get a life if you consider breaking into
systems as entertainment.
Erik
> is "easily" broken. Either that or they're technically
> incompetent or too lazy to implement it.
I think 99% of the 'administrators' are technically incompetent AND too
lazy. Just look at all the people saying: "I only enabled MAC address
filtering, I guess that will keep most of the hackers away" :)
> Anyway, they'd probably be better off using VPN and a firewall.
From what I've seen, WPA seems to be a good alternative.
> Besides, you need to get a life if you consider breaking into
> systems as entertainment.
Depends on what you do after you 'break in'. I mean, connecting to a wide
open WLAN network isn't all that bad. And if you leave the user a small
message, telling him that his system is wide open and that he should get
some protection, you could even help some people out :)
Erik
ShadowWarrior
All I said was I detected the signals and which ones were WEP protected or
not. And as for getting a life, You will also see it was all done on my
drive home from WORK that nasty four letter word those of us with real lives
have to do to pay bills and stuff..LOL I teach and work with computers for a
living so it is my life I guess. LOL..
As for entertainment I have much better avenues like a wife and kid who keep
me entertained and happy. SO whats your life? Oh nothing better to do than
flame and slam>?>???
I do make it a habit of letting people, especially business owners know if I
detect a signal and its not encrypted. I then try to help them out by
explaining the different pros and cons of each type of protection. I let
them make the final decision on how they wish to protect the system.
<joh...@n0sq.net> wrote in message news:bg9u4...@enews1.newsguy.com...
Angel
It's also possible some of them are left open intentionally.
I leave mine open so anybody in range can use it for Internet access if
they wanted to. Of course my wired lan is very tightly firewalled and I
don't allow use of my or my isp's smtp server, etc. If I use the
wireless side myself then it's either vpn'd or just general surfing
(stuff I don't care about anybody snooping).
Not everyone who doesn't use WEP is an incompetent, some of use choose
to leave it open.
Angel
do...@warchalkin.usenet.us.com
> I do make it a habit of letting people, especially business owners know if I
> detect a signal and its not encrypted. I then try to help them out by
> explaining the different pros and cons of each type of protection. I let
> them make the final decision on how they wish to protect the system.
That certainly sounds like an annoying hobby.
Do you find yourself well received, or are you considered a door-to-door
salesman, hawking a product that isn't wanted?
ShadowWarrior
SO Actually I have gotten a few benifits from it like free services and
other little goodies..:)
<do...@Warchalkin.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
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do...@warchalkin.usenet.us.com
> Actually I don't sell them anything, and the time and information is free.
> SO Actually I have gotten a few benifits from it like free services and
> other little goodies..:)
I noticed that from my wife's store, where there is no wireless, I can
connect to the real estate office down the street. This was inadvertent
war-standing ;-) I suddenly had a connection, and later realized that I
could see a wireless router in the front lobby of the real estate office.
I thought about saying something to them, but didn't have an approach...
I also thought of the reluctance of people to accept anything free,
assuming that there is some catch or nefarious motive.
And the fact that most people must think that you are just weird for doing
this in the first place.
ShadowWarrior
field and once I explain who I am and why I found it they are pretty
receptive. I have never had the cops called on me lets say!..:) They usally
are very interested to learn and a time or two they have had me back a
couple of times to check afterwards to see if its fixed.
I found my backyard nieghbors wireless link open and hes a lawyer, so
needless to say he was VERY happy I pointed it out to him and he then had me
fix it and paid me for it.:) Nothing like combining work and play and
money..:)
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Kenneth Crudup
Angel <enough@spam_already> says:
>It's also possible some of them are left open intentionally.
>I leave mine open so anybody in range can use it for Internet access if
>they wanted to.
Yeah, but what's your SSID? "Public" or thereabouts means you know it's OK,
and not just some plug-and-go newbie.
-Kenny
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Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Los Angeles, CA
Home: 3801 E. Pacific Coast Hwy #9, Long Beach, CA 90804-2014 (562) 961-7300
Work: 2052 Alton Parkway, Irvine, CA 92606-4905 (949) 252-1111 X240
David Taylor
> and not just some plug-and-go newbie.
Doesn't necessarily mean anything whatsoever!! :)
Keith Roberts
do...@warchalkin.usenet.us.com
One of the services, I think it's HotSpotz, uses "public". I thought I had
found an obvious freebie until I hit their splash page.
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David Taylor
@nospam.btinternet.com says...
> How about "everybody welcome" as a SSID
Well all that means is that you've chosen two words as the SSID, it
doesn't actually mean anything does it? If you get what I mean.
I know where you're coming from but just to play devil's advocate, the
SSID is just that, an SSID. It doesn't actually mean anything other
than a collection of ascii characters.
David.