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ned

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Mar 13, 2006, 10:10:04 AM3/13/06
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I had created a local area connection between my desktop and laptop
using an ethernet cable. I now have installed a wireless router and
want to create a local area connection using my wireless connection.
When I use the network setup wizard on my laptop, however, it only
recognizes my old ethernet connection and tells me the cable is
disconnected. I can't delete the old local area connection. How do I
change it to wireless rather than the missing cable? Ned

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Mar 13, 2006, 10:30:00 AM3/13/06
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"ned" <bu...@main.nc.us> wrote in message
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http://computer.howstuffworks.com/wireless-network.htm


ned

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Mar 13, 2006, 11:35:38 AM3/13/06
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Thanks, but I couldn't find anything in the article that told me how to
modify my local area connection so that it would recognize the wireless
connection.

Jeff Liebermann

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Mar 13, 2006, 12:38:45 PM3/13/06
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"ned" <bu...@main.nc.us> hath wroth:

Right. Not a clue what hardware you're working with or what you've
actually done to "create a network". I prefer evolution over
creationism, but if you can demonstrate a creation, I'll gladly change
sides. Meanwhile, it would be interesting to know what hardware and
software you're using.

I'll assume XP Home SP2 with all the updates and that you're using
Microsloth Wireless Zero Config and not the vendors wireless client
manager.

XP has the weird concept of a "default" connection, which works with
the check box "detect network connection" (or something like that as I
don't have an XP box in front of me). You'll see a small check box
showing the default connection in:
Control Panel -> Network and Dialup
Right click on the icon with the check box and *UNSELECT* the default
network connection until you have no default connection. Then dig
into the properties for your wired and wireless connections and find
the "detect network connection" box (or something like that) and make
sure it's checked. It's probably only on the ethernet device. It
should then switch automagically between ethernet and wireless as
controlled by whether you have something plugged into the ethernet
jack. Toshiba and IBM also have utilities that take over control of
this switching feature.

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Derek Broughton

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Mar 13, 2006, 12:51:57 PM3/13/06
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ned wrote:

What sort of wireless network interface do you have in your computer?
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ned

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Mar 13, 2006, 1:18:17 PM3/13/06
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Jeff, I am using Windows XP home with SP2. I guess that I am using ms
wireless zero config (I used the Windows network wizard). At your
suggestion, I went into control panel and then network connections.
The window shows two LAN or HIgh-speed internet connections: wireless
network connection and local area connection. The local area
connection shows a device name: realtek rtlb8139 family fast ethernet
NIC. When I right click on that icon, the status and repair options
are not available. From what I have read, I should be able to click
the status option. Nothing I see allows me to determine a default or
to unselect it. Ned

ned

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Mar 13, 2006, 1:23:02 PM3/13/06
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Derek, I am not sure I understand the question. I am using a Linksys
wireless router if that helps. That part of the system is working
fine. I can connect to the internet using both my desktop and laptop.
Ned

Jeff Liebermann

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Mar 13, 2006, 1:54:15 PM3/13/06
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"ned" <bu...@main.nc.us> hath wroth:

>Jeff, I am using Windows XP home with SP2. I guess that I am using ms
>wireless zero config (I used the Windows network wizard). At your
>suggestion, I went into control panel and then network connections.
>The window shows two LAN or HIgh-speed internet connections: wireless
>network connection and local area connection.

Are they both enabled? Right click and select "Enable" if they're
not.

>The local area
>connection shows a device name: realtek rtlb8139 family fast ethernet
>NIC.

Very common ethernet controller chip.

>When I right click on that icon, the status and repair options
>are not available.

That probably means that you have the ethernet port disabled. Select
enable and it should offer those choices.

Also, dive into:
Right click on "My computer" on the desktop.
Select Properties.
Select Device Manager
See if there's anything screwed up or disabled on both the network
devices. There should NOT be any yellow or red marks on the icons.

>From what I have read, I should be able to click
>the status option. Nothing I see allows me to determine a default or
>to unselect it. Ned

If none of the above do anything useful, go back to the device
manager, find the Realtek 8139 ethernet controller, and select
"reinstall driver" or "update driver" (I forgot which).

Oops... before you do that, shut down the laptop, turn off the power,
unplug the power supply, remove the battery, get a cup of coffee, and
give the laptop a few minutes to discharge. Most desktops and a few
laptops have the Wake On LAN feature that leaves power applied to the
ethernet interface even when it's turned off. This is not very common
with laptops but with a check.

ned

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Mar 13, 2006, 2:45:06 PM3/13/06
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Jeff, The ethernet port is enabled. I visited device mgr and
everything was working. When I tried to reinstall the driver for
Realtek, it asked me for the installation CD. I tried both OS CD and
the driver recovery CD. Both times the wizard told me it was unable to
discover a better driver. I tried the search function on both CDs but
couldn't find anything that looked like a Realtek driver. Ned

ned

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Mar 13, 2006, 3:09:53 PM3/13/06
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Jeff, Is there any reason for me not to just uninstall the Realtek
driver? Do I need it for anything? Ned

Jeff Liebermann

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Mar 13, 2006, 3:34:51 PM3/13/06
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"ned" <bu...@main.nc.us> hath wroth:

>Jeff, Is there any reason for me not to just uninstall the Realtek
>driver? Do I need it for anything? Ned

It's the driver for your ethernet device. If it's there, it should be
functional. The day will arrrive when you'll need it. The driver
should be on the unspecified laptop vendors web site. The sloppy way
to reinstall the driver is to delete the entry from the device manager
and reboot. Plug-n-Pray should find the ethernet device and offer to
install a driver. Point it at the "new" driver.

The Realtek RTL8139 is a rather generic device. You might wanna try
the driver from their site:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=rtl8139

Mark McIntyre

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Mar 13, 2006, 4:34:07 PM3/13/06
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On 13 Mar 2006 07:10:04 -0800, in alt.internet.wireless , "ned"
<bu...@main.nc.us> wrote:

You can't change the existing connection since its specifc to the
network card. Either disable it or delete it, then create a brand new
network connection.

If the wizard insists on using your ethernet card it means it can't
detect the wireless card in your laptop (you /do/ have one?), so read
the instructions to find out how to enable it.
Mark McIntyre
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Mark McIntyre

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Mar 13, 2006, 4:34:49 PM3/13/06
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On 13 Mar 2006 10:23:02 -0800, in alt.internet.wireless , "ned"
<bu...@main.nc.us> wrote:

>Derek, I am not sure I understand the question. I am using a Linksys
>wireless router if that helps.

Fine. And what sort of wireless card is in your Laptop?

You do realise you need wireless hardware at both ends.

ned

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Mar 13, 2006, 5:11:29 PM3/13/06
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Jeff, I removed the ethernet device. I tried using my network setup
wizard again. This time it didn't get stuck on the unconnected
ethernet connection, but I still didn't get a working local net. When
I rebooted, the laptop automatically reinstalled the ethernet
connection. I must have a different problem. I will try some more
research on setting up local networks. thanks for all your help. Ned

ned

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Mar 13, 2006, 5:14:28 PM3/13/06
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Mark, It has to be enabled. I am using it to connect to the internet
with my laptop. Plus, it shows up in the internet connections window
(and shows up as enabled). It's just the wizard that can't seem to
recognize it.

ned

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Mar 13, 2006, 6:20:32 PM3/13/06
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Mark, Although the network connections window does show a generic
wireless connection, it doesn't show the wireless network that I
created to use the internet. That network is encrypted (and shows up
in the wireless connection properties). Might that be why the wizard
can't see it? Is there some way to configure that network so that it
will be visible? The network authentication is now set at open and the
data encryption is WEP. Ned

Doug Jamal

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Mar 14, 2006, 3:34:41 PM3/14/06
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On 13-Mar-2006, "ned" <bu...@main.nc.us> wrote:

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> Although the network connections window does show a generic
> wireless connection, it doesn't show the wireless network that I
> created to use the internet.

The Network Connections window only shows whether or not your LAN or High
Speed connections (be it wired or wireless) is connected or not. If you
want to see your LAN, you need to click on MY NETWORK PLACES (if using XP)
or VIEW WORKGROUP COMPUTERS. I hope this is the information you're seeking.

<snipped>

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