Anyone successful with WPA and Linksys 802.11b Wireless Router ?
Dave@UPX
released Feb 3, 2004).
Not sure if it's the Linksys or my iBook with Apple's 802.11b Airport
card that's preventing communication when I turn WPA on.
Or, maybe even Apple's latest Airport (v3.3, released Jan 26, 2004)
software. The "Internet Connect" app shows full signal strength, but it
can't get an IP address for my iBook.
Anyone have any ideas ?
Diederik
You can only use WPA with 802.11g.
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Diederik
Diederik
You can only use WPA with airport extreme (802.11g) and Panther.
--
Diederik
Dave@UPX
<Diederik.DD*SPAMTRAP*@pandora.be> wrote:
Thanks.
Can anyone confirm that WPA only works with 802.11g ?
Because Linksys has two firmware upgrades for their 802.11b wireless
routers WITH the WPA option.
Diederik
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Can anyone confirm that WPA only works with 802.11g ?
>
> Because Linksys has two firmware upgrades for their 802.11b wireless
> routers WITH the WPA option.
Since you mentioned using an ibook:
<http://www.macnn.com/news/21842>
...WPA requires an AirPort Extreme base station and AirPort Extreme
clients running Mac OS X 10.3...
<http://www.apple.com/airport/specs.html>
...WPA requires Mac OS X v10.3 or later...
etc...
--
Diederik
Dave@UPX
<Diederik.DD*SPAMTRAP*@pandora.be> wrote:
> Dave@UPX wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm that WPA only works with 802.11g ?
> >
> > Because Linksys has two firmware upgrades for their 802.11b wireless
> > routers WITH the WPA option.
>
> Since you mentioned using an ibook:
>
> <http://www.macnn.com/news/21842>
> ...WPA requires an AirPort Extreme base station and AirPort Extreme
> clients running Mac OS X 10.3...
I'm running Panther. And if you read the following article;
http://www.macnn.com/news/23129
It says that the Airport 3.3 s/w supports WPA for *AirPort* clients...
Diederik
>
> I'm running Panther. And if you read the following article;
>
> http://www.macnn.com/news/23129
>
> It says that the Airport 3.3 s/w supports WPA for *AirPort* clients...
Your article: Monday, January 26, 2004 @ 9:25pm
My article : Saturday, November 1, 2003 @ 11:00am
Sorry, I guess you are right. If you try this I sure like to read the
results here.
--
Diederik
Max
I've been trying to follow this thread, but am a bit confused by the
references to Mac, iBook, Panther, Airport and such. I am running
Win98SE on my desktop and WinXP on a laptop and still have essentially
the same question Dave had -- will the firmware upgrade to the
BEFW11S4(v4) support WPA? At the Linksys site the history for the
upgrade specifically mentions added support for WPA, yet I keep
hearing that WPA support does not exist for 802.11b.
Even if the the upgrade will not support WPA, I've considered
implementing the upgrade in hopes of repairing a recurring
connectivity problem between my BEFW11S4(v4) and my WUSB12 wireless
adapter. I'm afraid I'm going to wear out the power connection on the
router because of having to pull the cable so frequently. I'm leery
of installing the upgrade, however, because I've seen posts in which
the persons say that installing the firmware upgrade has permanently
killed their routers. Ouch!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For email, change the 3 to E.
Dave@UPX
<Diederik.DD*SPAMTRAP*@pandora.be> wrote:
I did try it. The iBook talked to the internet for one or two minutes
and then stopped. Tried several cycling the power on everything,
changing settings, etc. with no success.
What's worst, after shutting WPA off, the iBook still would NOT talk.
Was a little worried. I think cycling the power on the cable modem
(along with everything else) allowed unencrypted WiFi to function
again.
I'm hoping someone else will figure this out for me/us....
Dave@UPX
<maxcham...@TURNTHE3AROUNDsatx.rr.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:27:32 -0700, "Dave@UPX"
> <Da...@UltimatePix.invalid> wrote:
>
> >In article <jb9Yb.3841$Sr5....@phobos.telenet-ops.be>, Diederik
> ><Diederik.DD*SPAMTRAP*@pandora.be> wrote:
> >
> >> Dave@UPX wrote:
> >> > I've got a Linksys befw11s4 (v.4) with the latest firmware (v1.50.10,
> >> > released Feb 3, 2004).
> >> >
> >> > Not sure if it's the Linksys or my iBook with Apple's 802.11b Airport
> >> > card that's preventing communication when I turn WPA on.
> >> >
> >> > Or, maybe even Apple's latest Airport (v3.3, released Jan 26, 2004)
> >> > software. The "Internet Connect" app shows full signal strength, but it
> >> > can't get an IP address for my iBook.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone have any ideas ?
> >>
> >> You can only use WPA with airport extreme (802.11g) and Panther.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Can anyone confirm that WPA only works with 802.11g ?
> >
> >Because Linksys has two firmware upgrades for their 802.11b wireless
> >routers WITH the WPA option.
>
> I've been trying to follow this thread, but am a bit confused by the
> references to Mac, iBook, Panther, Airport and such.
Mac = Apple Macintosh Computer (desktop or laptop)
iBook = Apple Macintosh Laptop
Panther = Mac OS X 10.3.1 or 10.3.x
Airport = Apple's 802.11b Wireless Access Point or client Hardware
(sometimes it refers to the WiFi Software of the same name)
Airport Extreme = Apple's 802.11g Wireless Access Point or client
Hardware
> I am running
> Win98SE on my desktop and WinXP on a laptop and still have essentially
> the same question Dave had -- will the firmware upgrade to the
> BEFW11S4(v4) support WPA? At the Linksys site the history for the
> upgrade specifically mentions added support for WPA, yet I keep
> hearing that WPA support does not exist for 802.11b.
I was beginning to suspect that, but could not find it anywhere at
www.wi-fi.org/wpa
> Even if the the upgrade will not support WPA, I've considered
> implementing the upgrade in hopes of repairing a recurring
> connectivity problem between my BEFW11S4(v4) and my WUSB12 wireless
> adapter. I'm afraid I'm going to wear out the power connection on the
> router because of having to pull the cable so frequently. I'm leery
> of installing the upgrade, however, because I've seen posts in which
> the persons say that installing the firmware upgrade has permanently
> killed their routers. Ouch!
I've heard that the firmware upgrade (v1.5 & v1.5.1) are supposed to
reduce your need to cycle the power, but your results may vary.
Is the WUSB12 a Netgear or D-Link device? I've known people who avoid
those brands as well as the no-names and stick with Linksys, Microsoft
and Orinocco for better functionality and reliability.
The only stories of Linksys routers that died with the upgrade was
because it wasn't the exact model the firmware was supposed to be for.
I'm still betting/hoping the Linksys would not include WPA options
unless the router actually supported WPA. And the update info at the
URL seems to support that;
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/20294&mode=info
- Dave
Rod Smith
"Dave@UPX" <Da...@UltimatePix.invalid> wrote:
> Can anyone confirm that WPA only works with 802.11g ?
From Apple's 3.3 Airport Software release:
"This release provides support for the Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA)
specification for the AirPort Extreme base station and both AirPort
Extreme and AirPort clients running Mac OS X v10.3, or later."
Though as I understand, WPA is a creature of 802.11g, not 802.11b,
and this is an Apple supplied "extra," so to speak for folks that are
running the earlier Airport cards.
--
Rod Smith
Florida Panhandle
Diederik
This could be it. WPA works with Airport, not with linksys 802.11b.
--
Diederik
read-the-...@send-spam-to-dev-null.com
> In article <jb9Yb.3841$Sr5....@phobos.telenet-ops.be>, Diederik
> <Diederik.DD*SPAMTRAP*@pandora.be> wrote:
>
> > Dave@UPX wrote:
> > > I've got a Linksys befw11s4 (v.4) with the latest firmware (v1.50.10,
> > > released Feb 3, 2004).
> > >
> > > Not sure if it's the Linksys or my iBook with Apple's 802.11b Airport
> > > card that's preventing communication when I turn WPA on.
> > >
> > > Or, maybe even Apple's latest Airport (v3.3, released Jan 26, 2004)
> > > software. The "Internet Connect" app shows full signal strength, but it
> > > can't get an IP address for my iBook.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any ideas ?
> >
> > You can only use WPA with airport extreme (802.11g) and Panther.
>
I have a Linksys befw11s4 v.4 and am using WEP with a G4 quicksilver airport
802.11b card and a powerbook G4 with an aiport extreme card. The befw11s4
only does 802.11b though. Mine has firmware v 1.45.3, July 1, 2003.
Don't see that WAP is an option, must be part of the new firmware update?
--
John J. Rushford
j j r { a t } a l i s a { d o t } o r g
http://www.cs.du.edu/~jjr
Harry Giles
1.50.10 firmware. I have a WMP54G PCI card in my desktop and I am using Win
XP with the latest wifi updates. The caveat though is that when I reboot I
lose the ability to transmit data. It will show the connection in the
systray, but I cannot communicate. I have tweaked everything I can think of
and I found only one thing that works. If I go into the router and click
allow all under mac filtering and then click the filtering back on then my
connection resumes. So, yes wpa-psk works, but it is a pita to have to go to
my computer with wired access and tweak the router firmware.
"Dave@UPX" <Da...@UltimatePix.invalid> wrote in message
news:160220041143318635%Da...@UltimatePix.invalid...
Dave@UPX
<read-the-...@send-spam-to-dev-null.com> wrote:
Yup. The last two firmware updates. You can download them from here;
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/20294
It's nice to know WEP works...I may have to give that another try if I
can't get Linksys/WPA to work...
Dave@UPX
Sounds like something Linksys needs to fix soon.
In article <1038g71...@corp.supernews.com>, Harry Giles
Max
<Da...@UltimatePix.invalid> wrote:
>In article <g1c5305cd29mpdf6m...@4ax.com>, Max
><maxcham...@TURNTHE3AROUNDsatx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:27:32 -0700, "Dave@UPX"
>> <Da...@UltimatePix.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <jb9Yb.3841$Sr5....@phobos.telenet-ops.be>, Diederik
>> ><Diederik.DD*SPAMTRAP*@pandora.be> wrote:
>> >
------ much snippage ------
>> >Can anyone confirm that WPA only works with 802.11g ?
>> >
>> >Because Linksys has two firmware upgrades for their 802.11b wireless
>> >routers WITH the WPA option.
>
>> I am running
>> Win98SE on my desktop and WinXP on a laptop and still have essentially
>> the same question Dave had -- will the firmware upgrade to the
>> BEFW11S4(v4) support WPA? At the Linksys site the history for the
>> upgrade specifically mentions added support for WPA, yet I keep
>> hearing that WPA support does not exist for 802.11b.
>
>> Even if the the upgrade will not support WPA, I've considered
>> implementing the upgrade in hopes of repairing a recurring
>> connectivity problem between my BEFW11S4(v4) and my WUSB12 wireless
>> adapter. I'm afraid I'm going to wear out the power connection on the
>> router because of having to pull the cable so frequently. I'm leery
>> of installing the upgrade, however, because I've seen posts in which
>> the persons say that installing the firmware upgrade has permanently
>> killed their routers. Ouch!
>
>Is the WUSB12 a Netgear or D-Link device? I've known people who avoid
>those brands as well as the no-names and stick with Linksys, Microsoft
>and Orinocco for better functionality and reliability.
The WUSB12 is the Linksys wireless adapter that resembles a flash
drive. As the name suggests, it plugs into a USB port instead of
taking an internal slot.
>
>The only stories of Linksys routers that died with the upgrade was
>because it wasn't the exact model the firmware was supposed to be for.
>
>I'm still betting/hoping the Linksys would not include WPA options
>unless the router actually supported WPA. And the update info at the
>URL seems to support that;
>
>http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/20294&mode=info
>
>
>- Dave
I called Linksys tech support to get clarification on whether the
upgrade for the BEFW11S4(v4) really supports WPA, and the rep said it
does, but only for WinXP--not for Win9x. She said since I was running
XP on my laptop but Win98SE on my desktop, there was no point in
enabling WPA because my desktop would essentially become marooned.
I then mentioned that my Toshiba laptop (with its built-in wireless
adapter) has never dropped a connection with the router, but that I
have frequent drops with the WUSB12 adapter on my desktop. When I
asked if installing the firmware upgrade might improve the desktop
connectivity, she recommended NOT upgrading because it might actually
jeopardize the laptop connectivity rather than improve things for the
desktop. Her reasoning was that if communication between the laptop
and the router has been perfect, then the router is working fine and I
shouldn't risk creating a problem with the laptop. The problem with
the desktop connection must lie somewhere in the desktop installation.
Dave@UPX
<maxcham...@TURNTHE3AROUNDsatx.rr.com> wrote:
Bummer. You'd be okay if you could hardwire the Desktop to the
Linksys...but that's probably not convenient.
>
> I then mentioned that my Toshiba laptop (with its built-in wireless
> adapter) has never dropped a connection with the router, but that I
> have frequent drops with the WUSB12 adapter on my desktop. When I
> asked if installing the firmware upgrade might improve the desktop
> connectivity, she recommended NOT upgrading because it might actually
> jeopardize the laptop connectivity rather than improve things for the
> desktop. Her reasoning was that if communication between the laptop
> and the router has been perfect, then the router is working fine and I
> shouldn't risk creating a problem with the laptop. The problem with
> the desktop connection must lie somewhere in the desktop installation.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> For email, change the 3 to E.
I was also worried about jeopardizing my laptop connectivity, because
there was no way that I knew of to revert back to the previous
firmware. But upgrades generally make things more compatible and
functional. Only rarely do they screw things up. But if the Linksys Rep
told you not to do it, then it would be a tough choice (for me at
least).
I had a friend who could NOT get their Netgear USB 802.11b device to
work at all. I'm beginning to wonder if there's an inherent problem
with USB and 802.11
Max
<Da...@UltimatePix.invalid> wrote:
>In article <58va30lpdumpmuge3...@4ax.com>, Max
><maxcham...@TURNTHE3AROUNDsatx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> ------ much snippage ------
>>
------- much more snippage -------
>> I called Linksys tech support to get clarification on whether the
>> upgrade for the BEFW11S4(v4) really supports WPA, and the rep said it
>> does, but only for WinXP--not for Win9x. She said since I was running
>> XP on my laptop but Win98SE on my desktop, there was no point in
>> enabling WPA because my desktop would essentially become marooned.
>
>Bummer. You'd be okay if you could hardwire the Desktop to the
>Linksys...but that's probably not convenient.
It's not possible with my present setup. My desktop came without a
NIC, so I have no place to connect the cable. I chose the USB adapter
over a card adapter mainly to avoid the hassle of messing with the
case, etc., in the event I had problems and needed to swap out
hardware.
>
>>
>> I then mentioned that my Toshiba laptop (with its built-in wireless
>> adapter) has never dropped a connection with the router, but that I
>> have frequent drops with the WUSB12 adapter on my desktop. When I
>> asked if installing the firmware upgrade might improve the desktop
>> connectivity, she recommended NOT upgrading because it might actually
>> jeopardize the laptop connectivity rather than improve things for the
>> desktop. Her reasoning was that if communication between the laptop
>> and the router has been perfect, then the router is working fine and I
>> shouldn't risk creating a problem with the laptop. The problem with
>> the desktop connection must lie somewhere in the desktop installation.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> For email, change the 3 to E.
>
>I was also worried about jeopardizing my laptop connectivity, because
>there was no way that I knew of to revert back to the previous
>firmware. But upgrades generally make things more compatible and
>functional. Only rarely do they screw things up. But if the Linksys Rep
>told you not to do it, then it would be a tough choice (for me at
>least).
>
>I had a friend who could NOT get their Netgear USB 802.11b device to
>work at all. I'm beginning to wonder if there's an inherent problem
>with USB and 802.11
I've also been wondering if I should have opted for the internal card.
It was, after all, a few bucks cheaper. But if I had done so and had
the same connectivity problems I'd be kicking myself for being so dumb
for wanting to save a couple of $.
Hmm, just had a thought... the problem may not be USB per se, but the
combination of USB and Win98SE. I just now remembered that in one of
my several conversations with a Linksys tech rep it was mentioned that
although Win98SE does support USB, it only marginally supports it--
that there are mumerous situations in which WinXP and USB will work
just fine together, but 98 and USB will give problems. I have no idea
in what specific areas there may be a difference, but for the moment
it gives me comfort to think that perhaps wireless is one, and that I
might as well resign myself to the fact. Less stress that way. <G>