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amdx
May 20, 2013, 3:02:08 PM5/20/13
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If I'm using my laptop to play online games, and I have a router that is
working fine, What has the faster speed the wifi or hardwired to the router?
Mikek
working fine, What has the faster speed the wifi or hardwired to the router?
Mikek
Jeff Liebermann
May 20, 2013, 3:15:31 PM5/20/13
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Gigabit wired ethernet will give you about 600 Mbits/sec if you setup
jumbo packets. Otherwise, about 250 Mbits/sec. 100baseT will do
about 85 Mbits/sec.
802.11g will do about 25 Mbits/sec maximum. Although there are claims
of astounding performance with various MIMO configurations, the most
I've seen is about 100 Mbits/sec on 2.4GHz and about 280 Mbits on
5.7GHz. Your results will vary.
In general, if your router hears any RF interference, it will slow
down to help improve the BER (bit error rate). That means astounding
performance is unlikely in an RF polluted environment. 5.7Ghz is much
less crowded and offers double the bandwith (40MHz versus 20Mhz for
2.4GHz) to play with.
So, if you're running 5.7Ghz (802.11a) MIMO, you're probably doing ok.
If not, run the cables. If you want the best possible speed, use
1000baseT (gigabit) wired ethernet.
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Warren Oates
May 20, 2013, 6:02:15 PM5/20/13
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In article <28a24$519a72a0$18d66b6a$25...@KNOLOGY.NET>,
How fast is your Internet connection?
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Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene.
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Aaron Leonard
May 21, 2013, 5:32:00 PM5/21/13
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~ If I'm using my laptop to play online games, and I have a router that is
~ working fine, What has the faster speed the wifi or hardwired to the router?
~ Mikek
Use wired if speed (throughput), latency and/or reliability are
important to you.
Wireless wins if you like moving around while connected.
Aaron
~ working fine, What has the faster speed the wifi or hardwired to the router?
~ Mikek
Use wired if speed (throughput), latency and/or reliability are
important to you.
Wireless wins if you like moving around while connected.
Aaron
amdx
May 21, 2013, 7:57:15 PM5/21/13
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On 5/20/2013 5:02 PM, Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <28a24$519a72a0$18d66b6a$25...@KNOLOGY.NET>,
> amdx <am...@knology.net> wrote:
>
>> If I'm using my laptop to play online games, and I have a router that
>> is working fine, What has the faster speed the wifi or hardwired to
>> the router?
>> Mikek
>
> How fast is your Internet connection?
Ok, I ask the question for my son, he's off at college.
> In article <28a24$519a72a0$18d66b6a$25...@KNOLOGY.NET>,
> amdx <am...@knology.net> wrote:
>
>> If I'm using my laptop to play online games, and I have a router that
>> is working fine, What has the faster speed the wifi or hardwired to
>> the router?
>> Mikek
>
> How fast is your Internet connection?
He uses a laptop and thinks a new computer will be faster.
He want's to build a new computer, and I don't want to
buy the parts!
I read Jeff's response, and I think I'll part with some
of my Cat-5 cable and connectors and see if that helps him.
BTW, Speedtest.com says 15 megaBits per second down and
2 megaBits per second up, for my computer.
Mikek
PS. I also don't want to encourage more playing games vs studying.
Jeff Liebermann
May 22, 2013, 10:54:47 AM5/22/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:57:15 -0500, amdx <am...@knologynotthis.net>
wrote:
>Ok, I ask the question for my son, he's off at college.
>He uses a laptop and thinks a new computer will be faster.
He's correct. For gaming, raw CPU horsepower and video performance is
what's important, not network speed. I suggest you download and run a
gaming benchmark test from:
<http://www.3dmark.com>
<http://www.futuremark.com>
<http://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/3dmark06/>
The free versions are ok, but for $10, the video tweak tests are
worthwhile. Warning, the downloaded tests are about 600MB which
expands to a 1.5GB monster on installation. Note that there are
different versions for DirectX 9, 10, and 11. I use the one for Dx9
(PCMark06) as I'm interested in comparing gaming machine performance,
not how much I can squeeze out of the video card enhancements. There
are also pages where you can view user results for various systems,
video cards, and operating systems:
<http://www.3dmark.com/login>
Try the Benchmark ticker.
<http://www.3dmark.com/ticker>
(It takes a long time for the screen to start filling with data.) It's
interesting seeing what type of systems are out there being used for
gaming. Hmm... it's not showing any data today. Grrr. Anyway, you
can see how you stand against the highest scoring computers at:
<http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/>
Here's my home desktop:
<http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16937631>
I haven't run it on my laptop, so I can't do a comparison right now,
but I think you'll find it much slower, especially the video
performance.
>He want's to build a new computer, and I don't want to
>buy the parts!
Most of the home made game machines I've seen are unstable pieces of
marginal junk. It takes experience and expertise to put together a
machine that actually works well with bleeding edge games. They can
also become very expensive with little resale value (except to other
gamers). If he's never built a custom machine before, have him build
something with emphasis on upgradability. Hint: Aluminum mini-tower
case as he's going to be dragging it some.
>PS. I also don't want to encourage more playing games vs studying.
If he's building a machine, he's learning. If he's playing on the
machine, he's not learning. Too much studying is bad for the learning
process. I learned more from the things I did wrong in college than
any of the studying that I should have been doing.
wrote:
>Ok, I ask the question for my son, he's off at college.
>He uses a laptop and thinks a new computer will be faster.
what's important, not network speed. I suggest you download and run a
gaming benchmark test from:
<http://www.3dmark.com>
<http://www.futuremark.com>
<http://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/3dmark06/>
The free versions are ok, but for $10, the video tweak tests are
worthwhile. Warning, the downloaded tests are about 600MB which
expands to a 1.5GB monster on installation. Note that there are
different versions for DirectX 9, 10, and 11. I use the one for Dx9
(PCMark06) as I'm interested in comparing gaming machine performance,
not how much I can squeeze out of the video card enhancements. There
are also pages where you can view user results for various systems,
video cards, and operating systems:
<http://www.3dmark.com/login>
Try the Benchmark ticker.
<http://www.3dmark.com/ticker>
(It takes a long time for the screen to start filling with data.) It's
interesting seeing what type of systems are out there being used for
gaming. Hmm... it's not showing any data today. Grrr. Anyway, you
can see how you stand against the highest scoring computers at:
<http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/>
Here's my home desktop:
<http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16937631>
I haven't run it on my laptop, so I can't do a comparison right now,
but I think you'll find it much slower, especially the video
performance.
>He want's to build a new computer, and I don't want to
>buy the parts!
marginal junk. It takes experience and expertise to put together a
machine that actually works well with bleeding edge games. They can
also become very expensive with little resale value (except to other
gamers). If he's never built a custom machine before, have him build
something with emphasis on upgradability. Hint: Aluminum mini-tower
case as he's going to be dragging it some.
>PS. I also don't want to encourage more playing games vs studying.
machine, he's not learning. Too much studying is bad for the learning
process. I learned more from the things I did wrong in college than
any of the studying that I should have been doing.
Jeff Liebermann
May 22, 2013, 11:46:51 AM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:54:47 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
Oops. That was something I threw together to test a video card for a
customer. Here's my home computah:
<http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16861861>
and office computah:
<http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16881511>
Neither would be very good for gaming.
Incidentally, the winner of the fastest machine running 3dMark06 was:
<http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+680/review>
using a $430 video card. Note the other prices.
<http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu>
Gaming is NOT cheap.
wrote:
Oops. That was something I threw together to test a video card for a
customer. Here's my home computah:
<http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16861861>
and office computah:
<http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16881511>
Neither would be very good for gaming.
Incidentally, the winner of the fastest machine running 3dMark06 was:
<http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+680/review>
using a $430 video card. Note the other prices.
<http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu>
Gaming is NOT cheap.
Jeff Liebermann
May 22, 2013, 2:31:19 PM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 08:46:51 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
>Oops. That was something I threw together to test a video card for a
>customer. Here's my home computah:
><http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16861861>
Oops 2.0. That was an old benchmark with a rather insipid PNY video
card. New card and new monitor does better:
<http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/17272443>
wrote:
>Oops. That was something I threw together to test a video card for a
>customer. Here's my home computah:
><http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16861861>
card. New card and new monitor does better:
<http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/17272443>
amdx
May 23, 2013, 8:54:19 AM5/23/13
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On 5/22/2013 10:46 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:54:47 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Here's my home desktop:
>> <http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16937631>
>
> Oops. That was something I threw together to test a video card for a
> customer. Here's my home computah:
> <http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16861861>
> and office computah:
> <http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16881511>
> Neither would be very good for gaming.
>
> Incidentally, the winner of the fastest machine running 3dMark06 was:
> <http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+680/review>
> using a $430 video card. Note the other prices.
> <http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu>
> Gaming is NOT cheap.
>
Neither is college, when I responded to his request about a new
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:54:47 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Here's my home desktop:
>> <http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16937631>
>
> Oops. That was something I threw together to test a video card for a
> customer. Here's my home computah:
> <http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16861861>
> and office computah:
> <http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/16881511>
> Neither would be very good for gaming.
>
> Incidentally, the winner of the fastest machine running 3dMark06 was:
> <http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+680/review>
> using a $430 video card. Note the other prices.
> <http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu>
> Gaming is NOT cheap.
>
computer, I listed dollar amounts for rent, food, pocket money, tuition,
etc. that I'm paying, I stopped at $18,400. I thought that was enough to
get the point through to him. 5 year program, only 4 more to go. :-)
Mikek
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