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Mike Berg

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29 juli 2003 23:24:462003-07-29
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Any opinions on the best log file analyzer taking cost into consideration.
We currently use Webtrends but I find it really to be *too* much information at
times.
Anything a little less robust? I know it sounds odd.

TIA,
Mike Berg
Millennium Fitness

Adrienne

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30 juli 2003 04:13:452003-07-30
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Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Mike Berg
<Mike_...@newsguy.com> writing in news:bg7dp...@drn.newsguy.com:

I like Surfstats.

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Coco

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30 juli 2003 15:56:352003-07-30
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Mike Berg <Mike_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<bg7dp...@drn.newsguy.com>...

> Any opinions on the best log file analyzer taking cost into consideration.
> We currently use Webtrends but I find it really to be *too* much information at
> times.

I also use Webtrends so I know what you mean - maybe you can explain
to me why it often says I have one visitor that downloaded the same
file 30 times? The ratio of visitors to downloads is hard to believe.
I mean - why would someone download the same thing that many times?

Webtrends is good, but its a lot of stuff to sort thru, isn't it?

William Tasso

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30 juli 2003 17:48:442003-07-30
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Coco wrote:
> ... maybe you can explain

> to me why it often says I have one visitor that downloaded the same
> file 30 times? The ratio of visitors to downloads is hard to believe.
> I mean - why would someone download the same thing that many times?
>

poor connection?
trying to stuff your server?

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Mike Berg

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30 juli 2003 18:56:572003-07-30
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In article <Xns93C8C88E255...@207.115.63.156>, Adrienne says...


Thanks Adrienne, I'll check it out.
Mike

Mike Berg

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30 juli 2003 18:56:032003-07-30
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In article <c13e60c6.0307...@posting.google.com>, coco...@yahoo.com
says...


That would be putting it mildly. Just setting up the report is a pain as well.
Mike
Oh..and no, Im not sure why you have that issue with visitor/downloads.

Pavel Grusha

oläst,
30 juli 2003 19:27:072003-07-30
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> Any opinions on the best log file analyzer taking cost into consideration.
> We currently use Webtrends but I find it really to be *too* much information at
> times.
> Anything a little less robust? I know it sounds odd.

I recommend AlterWind Log Analyzer http://www.alterwind.com/loganalyzer/

info

oläst,
30 juli 2003 21:51:232003-07-30
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just use one of the simplified reports in webtrends like marketing,
advertising or executive summary report or manually select just the ones you
want
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info

oläst,
30 juli 2003 21:54:552003-07-30
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what kind of downloads? are the reports indicating which files are being
downloaded? also keep in mind people do use the back key a lot.

"Coco" <coco...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Victoria Clare

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31 juli 2003 04:41:182003-07-31
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"info" <in...@anonymous.com> wrote in news:PF_Va.9480$jB5.8239
@nwrddc03.gnilink.net:

> what kind of downloads? are the reports indicating which files are being
> downloaded? also keep in mind people do use the back key a lot.

That wouldn't show in the logs unless the page is deliberately set not to
be cached though, would it?

Normally, the browser would cache a page you'd looked at once, so only the
first download is recorded.

A 'visitor' is defined by most programs as a bunch of requests from the
same IP address within a defined time period - often half an hour, (unless
you are also using cookies).

Could the visitor be a robot that's got into a loop?

I think we need to know:
Does the Webtrends report include cookie data as well as logs?
Does the site send 'no cache' headers?
Do these multiple-downloading visitors have any other characteristics in
common - browser, file downloaded, originating domain etc?

? could it be a no-cached page being requested by a bunch of people all
behind a firewall or something? So they all come up as one visitor,
because all the requests are from the same IP address?

Victoria
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Articus

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2 aug. 2003 17:51:552003-08-02
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I use urchin.com
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T Lang

oläst,
3 aug. 2003 13:45:132003-08-03
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What do you need and how many you have to analyse?

That愀 the main question.
basic : webaliser - good tool for monitoring a side with basic information -
views and hits
Basic +:Summary is good on my opinion for typical "webmaster questions" and
service level controlling
Enhanced :
Netgenesis : for all questions you may have about your users. combined with
da pagedot its
very good for managing campains.. when you want to make deep analysis obout
the
behavior of your surfing customers you can put spss together with
netgenesis. but you will need session ids or cookies (the best is a "log
in") for calculaing valid numbers.

sorry for my english folks

cu thomas


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