http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/09/01/im-a-six-figure-blogger/
>Problogger is now making over $100K (USD) per year.
>
> http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/09/01/im-a-six-figure-blogger/
>
>RFM
I'm not one generally to doubt something like this since it's bloody
irritating when you do well with something like this and a bunch of
sour grapes losers who don't have the skills to do as well try to make
out you are trying to deceive people!!
However, looking at the image
http://www.problogger.net/wp-content/earnings-august.jpg I see a few
warning signs.
First is the person (or Adsense!) can't add up. Adsense content and
search comes to $15,849.59 not .60
Second when I view Adsense I see USD not the $ sign (does anyone see
$).
Third I've never seen it at 0.00 earnings for a day. Is that even
possible?
Why would anyone do this, they are selling a course for about £300 a
pop.
And anyway, if you think 15 thousand dollars is impressive look at
what I made last month- http://www.seo-gold.com/earnings-august.jpg
That took all of 5 minutes to create and uses the format Adsense uses.
Seriously though those figures (not my joke ones, I wish) are
possible. This month I expect to make up to $5,000 from Adsense from
content that isn't of high value (I get a lot of traffic) so with the
right content and reasonable traffic $15,000 is possible.
David
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http://www.seo-gold.com/tutorial/
>On 1 Sep 2005 19:01:12 -0700, "Fritz M" <nos...@masoner.net> wrote:
>
>>Problogger is now making over $100K (USD) per year.
>>
>> http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/09/01/im-a-six-figure-blogger/
>>
>>RFM
>
>I'm not one generally to doubt something like this since it's bloody
>irritating when you do well with something like this and a bunch of
>sour grapes losers who don't have the skills to do as well try to make
>out you are trying to deceive people!!
>
>However, looking at the image
>http://www.problogger.net/wp-content/earnings-august.jpg I see a few
>warning signs.
>
>First is the person (or Adsense!) can't add up. Adsense content and
>search comes to $15,849.59 not .60
>
>Second when I view Adsense I see USD not the $ sign (does anyone see
>$).
>
>Third I've never seen it at 0.00 earnings for a day. Is that even
>possible?
It is for me! I think, not having studied it particularly, that if you
start up a new site and apply for Adsense on it straight away there'll
maybe be a day or so when it'll be on the Adsense programs but won't
have been spidered by them yet. That way you'd just have generic
Public Service ads on your page that no-one would be clicking.
BB
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Elvis does my SEO
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I've seen things not add up before. Just the other day, my content was
just over a dollar, my search was zero and my total was over $3.
>
> Second when I view Adsense I see USD not the $ sign (does anyone see
> $).
I see the $. It must be because you're in the UK.
>
> Third I've never seen it at 0.00 earnings for a day. Is that even
> possible?
>
I get up at 4:00 AM. It is normally $0.00 when I first see it! Here is
this morning screenshot (for real).
http://files.davisvillage.com/store/adsense_aug.gif
> Why would anyone do this, they are selling a course for about £300 a
> pop.
>
> And anyway, if you think 15 thousand dollars is impressive look at
> what I made last month- http://www.seo-gold.com/earnings-august.jpg
>
> That took all of 5 minutes to create and uses the format Adsense uses.
>
> Seriously though those figures (not my joke ones, I wish) are
> possible. This month I expect to make up to $5,000 from Adsense from
> content that isn't of high value (I get a lot of traffic) so with the
> right content and reasonable traffic $15,000 is possible.
Of course it is possible. I worked with a guy that within one years time
went from 0 to $150,000. He said once he doubled his income with his
online stuff he would quit his job. We'll he tripled it, so he quit, and
I'm still working 8:00 - 5:00 every day :(
>
> David
> Second when I view Adsense I see USD not the $ sign (does anyone see
> $).
I see the $ sign, but I'm in the United States.
RFM
>David wrote:
>> On 1 Sep 2005 19:01:12 -0700, "Fritz M" <nos...@masoner.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Problogger is now making over $100K (USD) per year.
>>>
>>>http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/09/01/im-a-six-figure-blogger/
>>>
>>>RFM
>>
>>
>> I'm not one generally to doubt something like this since it's bloody
>> irritating when you do well with something like this and a bunch of
>> sour grapes losers who don't have the skills to do as well try to make
>> out you are trying to deceive people!!
>>
>> However, looking at the image
>> http://www.problogger.net/wp-content/earnings-august.jpg I see a few
>> warning signs.
>>
>> First is the person (or Adsense!) can't add up. Adsense content and
>> search comes to $15,849.59 not .60
>
>I've seen things not add up before. Just the other day, my content was
>just over a dollar, my search was zero and my total was over $3.
So that knocks that theory on the head then :-)
>>
>> Second when I view Adsense I see USD not the $ sign (does anyone see
>> $).
>
>I see the $. It must be because you're in the UK.
And another reasonable explanation.
>>
>> Third I've never seen it at 0.00 earnings for a day. Is that even
>> possible?
>>
>
>I get up at 4:00 AM. It is normally $0.00 when I first see it! Here is
>this morning screenshot (for real).
>
>http://files.davisvillage.com/store/adsense_aug.gif
Screenshot above didn't work, but I'll take your word for it.
So looks like there's a good chance I'm wrong on this one. Looking at
their Alexa rankings it does add up as legit.
So apologies to the webmaster if you happen to read this thread, looks
like I did the sour grapes loser thing :-(
I still think my $3,000,000 earnings image is better though :-)
>> Why would anyone do this, they are selling a course for about £300 a
>> pop.
>>
>> And anyway, if you think 15 thousand dollars is impressive look at
>> what I made last month- http://www.seo-gold.com/earnings-august.jpg
>>
>> That took all of 5 minutes to create and uses the format Adsense uses.
>>
>> Seriously though those figures (not my joke ones, I wish) are
>> possible. This month I expect to make up to $5,000 from Adsense from
>> content that isn't of high value (I get a lot of traffic) so with the
>> right content and reasonable traffic $15,000 is possible.
>
>Of course it is possible. I worked with a guy that within one years time
>went from 0 to $150,000. He said once he doubled his income with his
>online stuff he would quit his job. We'll he tripled it, so he quit, and
>I'm still working 8:00 - 5:00 every day :(
Before April this year Adsense for me was just something that was
stuck on a site because it was easy to add (didn't expect to make much
money). At the time I did no research on Adsense Ad positioning and
unfortunately put my ads in the white area of the heat map, so they
performed poorly.
In April I started a new project and put the ads smack bang in the
middle of the content. Quickly realised this worked well and so did
some research and discovered why (the heat map
https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/static.py?page=tips.html).
Made a few other changes to all the sites I have ads on and revenue
from Adsense is significant now. Best day last month was USD162.28
with an average of USD122.80 per day for the month. If it stays at
that rate it comes to almost $45K a year, just from Google ads!
Good thing is it costs nothing extra to make that money, so it's
basically all profit.
>>
>> David
Here's an image from a few minutes ago that doesn't add up:
http://files.davisvillage.com/store/adsensetoday.gif
For those who can't access my server, it basically says my total for
today is $0.41, yet I have one site that has made $0.85 on 2 clicks.
>
> Of course it is possible. I worked with a guy that within one years time
> went from 0 to $150,000. He said once he doubled his income with his
> online stuff he would quit his job. We'll he tripled it, so he quit, and
> I'm still working 8:00 - 5:00 every day :(
How did he do that? What's his URL?
:)
>
> In April I started a new project and put the ads smack bang in the
> middle of the content. Quickly realised this worked well and so did
> some research and discovered why (the heat map
> https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/static.py?page=tips.html).
> Made a few other changes to all the sites I have ads on and revenue
> from Adsense is significant now. Best day last month was USD162.28
> with an average of USD122.80 per day for the month. If it stays at
> that rate it comes to almost $45K a year, just from Google ads!
>
> Good thing is it costs nothing extra to make that money, so it's
> basically all profit.
How much traffic do you need to make figures
like that? I used to have AdSense on sites but it made them look
worse and I got hardly any clicks so I took it off. But seeing that makes
me tempted to put them back.
Do you have an example of sites you have done that illustrate the ad
placement techniques that you are talking about?
Thanks
>On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:40:21 +0000, David wrote:
>
>>
>> In April I started a new project and put the ads smack bang in the
>> middle of the content. Quickly realised this worked well and so did
>> some research and discovered why (the heat map
>> https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/static.py?page=tips.html).
>> Made a few other changes to all the sites I have ads on and revenue
>> from Adsense is significant now. Best day last month was USD162.28
>> with an average of USD122.80 per day for the month. If it stays at
>> that rate it comes to almost $45K a year, just from Google ads!
>>
>> Good thing is it costs nothing extra to make that money, so it's
>> basically all profit.
>
>How much traffic do you need to make figures
>like that?
I'm getting about 50,000 visitors a day (very rough estimate). Most of
my traffic is for very low cost keywords, so when there is a click it
doesn't make much.
Based on what I've read about others you could do the same with 10,000
visitors or less a day if the content is right (working on those types
of site now for the future :-)).
Got a new site that made ~$15 from 5 clicks one day and ~$8 from 4
clicks a couple of days later. In between 10 clicks made less than 50
cents :-)
It's about a week old so not much traffic yet, but if it gets the sort
of traffic I see on my year plus old sites that could make a LOT of
money.
>I used to have AdSense on sites but it made them look
>worse and I got hardly any clicks so I took it off. But seeing that makes
>me tempted to put them back.
You might have had poor placement assuming you get a reasonable amount
of traffic. If you look at for CTR (click through rate) it will give
you a better idea if there is a problem. When I had poor placement of
ads CTR was around 1%, I've heard of others getting 5%, I'm currently
between 2 and 3% which I'm happy with.
>Do you have an example of sites you have done that illustrate the ad
>placement techniques that you are talking about?
This shows the heat map
https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/static.py?page=tips.html
This site section does well
http://www.free-recipes.co.uk/recipes-store/ I use this design on a
lot of sites.
The large add near the top of
http://www.free-recipes.co.uk/recipes-store/1580084826/Roys-Fish-Seafood-Recipes-From-The-Pacific-Rim.html
does really well.
I used to blend the ads to the background, but after some research
read that changing the colours to contrast with the look can increase
revenues.
If you refresh a page above you'll see the ads change colour. When I
made the code change it made a significant difference to the CTR and
so revenues went up.
Doesn't look that great, but the sites are about maximum revenue from
Google/Amazon, wouldn't use that format on a page that was selling
something of high value that I was selling personally. The above is an
Amazon store, so happy to make money from Google or Amazon, the amount
they both make is surprisingly similar (Amazon revenue is currently
~10% higher than Google).
>Thanks
>On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 23:40:30 -0400, WD10 <wd...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:40:21 +0000, David wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In April I started a new project and put the ads smack bang in the
>>> middle of the content. Quickly realised this worked well and so did
>>> some research and discovered why (the heat map
>>> https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/static.py?page=tips.html).
>>> Made a few other changes to all the sites I have ads on and revenue
>>> from Adsense is significant now. Best day last month was USD162.28
>>> with an average of USD122.80 per day for the month. If it stays at
>>> that rate it comes to almost $45K a year, just from Google ads!
>>>
>>> Good thing is it costs nothing extra to make that money, so it's
>>> basically all profit.
>>
>>How much traffic do you need to make figures
>>like that?
>
>I'm getting about 50,000 visitors a day (very rough estimate).
That's about one per page, which is pretty much what I get. So when
Dave bangs on about how many visitors he gets compared to how many I
get, remember that he invariably cites these figures with no reference
to context.
If you're looking to increase your adsense revenue, the Joel Comm book
is worth a read, and if you want to know how to make targeted portals
then you'll probably want to read Michael Campbell's latest
newsletter.
> On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 23:40:30 -0400, WD10 <wd...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>How much traffic do you need to make figures
>>like that?
>
> I'm getting about 50,000 visitors a day (very rough estimate). Most of
> my traffic is for very low cost keywords, so when there is a click it
> doesn't make much.
>
> Based on what I've read about others you could do the same with 10,000
> visitors or less a day if the content is right (working on those types
> of site now for the future :-)).
>
>>I used to have AdSense on sites but it made them look
>>worse and I got hardly any clicks so I took it off. But seeing that makes
>>me tempted to put them back.
>
> You might have had poor placement assuming you get a reasonable amount
> of traffic. If you look at for CTR (click through rate) it will give
> you a better idea if there is a problem. When I had poor placement of
> ads CTR was around 1%, I've heard of others getting 5%, I'm currently
> between 2 and 3% which I'm happy with.
I probably had terrible placement. I always kept the ads to the left
column out of the way because I didn't want them interfering. :S
> I used to blend the ads to the background, but after some research
> read that changing the colours to contrast with the look can increase
> revenues.
>
> If you refresh a page above you'll see the ads change colour. When I
> made the code change it made a significant difference to the CTR and
> so revenues went up.
I'm going to try the changing color ads.
> Doesn't look that great, but the sites are about maximum revenue from
> Google/Amazon, wouldn't use that format on a page that was selling
> something of high value that I was selling personally. The above is an
> Amazon store, so happy to make money from Google or Amazon, the amount
> they both make is surprisingly similar (Amazon revenue is currently
> ~10% higher than Google).
>
>>Thanks
>
> David
Thanks for the tips. I'll try again with the AdSense.
> If you're looking to increase your adsense revenue, the Joel Comm book
> is worth a read, and if you want to know how to make targeted portals
> then you'll probably want to read Michael Campbell's latest
> newsletter.
Thanks. I will check it out.
Is it worth $97? That's an awful lot for a PDF that is likely to tell
me no more than I already know.
Thanks.
Paula Burch
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>Big Bill wrote:
>> If you're looking to increase your adsense revenue, the Joel Comm book
>> is worth a read
>
>Is it worth $97? That's an awful lot for a PDF that is likely to tell
>me no more than I already know.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Paula Burch
Depends how much you already know, you little lurker, you! I learned
stuff and it made me re-evaluate the layout of my pages. I'm giving
some serious thought to how I can find out good-paying keywords
without buying the same databases everyone else does. I bought the
book with my first ever Adsense cheque as the advert for the book and
the cheque, wholly unexpected, arrived the same day. So it was easy
come, easy go for me. You shouldn't ever buy this kind of stuff
because it'll tell you what to do, it'll be telling everyone else the
same thing so that's pointless and it'll filter out anyway one day.
Buy it because it may well make you think of something that most folk
won't, that's the idea of it.
Well, he started with www.profitcalc.com as his first product. Then he
used revenue from it to move on to other products. He made a lot of
money using the GoogleCash technique
(http://zushop.com/products/405/google-cash). This is where he made the
majority of his money. It's sort of a gamble if you don't know what your
doing. I normally tend to break even when I try it.
Now he creates a lot of blogs that are optimized for adsense. I don't
really know any of his blog addresses though. I don't tend to keep up on
what he is doing now.
> WD10 wrote:
>> On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 05:35:52 -0600, Dustin wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Of course it is possible. I worked with a guy that within one years time
>>>went from 0 to $150,000. He said once he doubled his income with his
>>>online stuff he would quit his job. We'll he tripled it, so he quit, and
>>>I'm still working 8:00 - 5:00 every day :(
>>
>>
>>
>> How did he do that? What's his URL?
>> :)
>
> Well, he started with www.profitcalc.com as his first product. Then he
> used revenue from it to move on to other products. He made a lot of
> money using the GoogleCash technique
> (http://zushop.com/products/405/google-cash). This is where he made the
> majority of his money. It's sort of a gamble if you don't know what your
> doing. I normally tend to break even when I try it.
What is Google Cash? The idea basically is to use Google AdWords to
sell other merchants' products for an affiliate commission?
>money using the GoogleCash technique
>(http://zushop.com/products/405/google-cash). This is where he made the
>majority of his money. It's sort of a gamble if you don't know what your
>doing. I normally tend to break even when I try it.
That URL doesn't work.
Are you talking about using Adwords to link to affiliate products?
> On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 06:55:51 -0600, Dustin <dustin...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>money using the GoogleCash technique
>>(http://zushop.com/products/405/google-cash). This is where he made the
>>majority of his money. It's sort of a gamble if you don't know what your
>>doing. I normally tend to break even when I try it.
>
> That URL doesn't work.
>
> Are you talking about using Adwords to link to affiliate products?
>
> David
The link works for me. I was wondering the same thing. It looks like
it might be some scheme to advertise your page of affiliate commissions.
A link on that page redirects you to this dubious-looking URL: www.
affiliatejackpot. com/index2.htm?hop=linkcloak
It says the following:
"You can make incredible money just by placing these Ads, guiding
customers to the product or service they want. The merchant provides
everything else - the Web site, the inventory, the customer service. This
means your part is a breeze. You simply place ads and collect the
commissions."
You can't see the URL for the same reason you can't see Nerdlance.com.
They are on the same server and your IP is blocked for some reason.
>
> Are you talking about using Adwords to link to affiliate products?
Yes
Yeah it's a scheme ;)
ZuShop is basically a site I created that parses ClickBank.com and
keeps track of all the data so I can see trends etc. I just started
working on it though so it doesn't have a lot of trends yet... A lot of
it was to practise designing with CSS rather than tables. How does it
look? How's the SEO on it?
>
> It says the following:
> "You can make incredible money just by placing these Ads, guiding
> customers to the product or service they want. The merchant provides
> everything else - the Web site, the inventory, the customer service. This
> means your part is a breeze. You simply place ads and collect the
> commissions."
As far as the eBook, it was pretty good for its time. I purchased it. I
think it made a lot of people a lot of money. Now its getting harder
due to all the competition. It does have a lot of good advice still
though.
>David wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 06:55:51 -0600, Dustin <dustin...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >money using the GoogleCash technique
>> >(http://zushop.com/products/405/google-cash). This is where he made the
>> >majority of his money. It's sort of a gamble if you don't know what your
>> >doing. I normally tend to break even when I try it.
>>
>> That URL doesn't work.
>
>You can't see the URL for the same reason you can't see Nerdlance.com.
>They are on the same server and your IP is blocked for some reason.
>
>>
>> Are you talking about using Adwords to link to affiliate products?
>
>Yes
>
I can't see them either. I'm also NTL.
Can't see it either.
Simon
The figure is real - as is the screen capture in the original post on
this thread. Of course there is no way to prove this to you unless you
want to pop over to my house (Melbourne Australia) to see it for
yourself.
I have about 20 blogs which all contribute to the revenue. They
generate anything from 35,000 to 45,000 unique visiters per day. I know
of sites that earn much more than me with less visitors than that
though. I'm not targetting super high keywords - there is too much
competition - I prefer to target topics I know something about and
build good traffic through quality content.
Anyway - nice discussion you've got going on here!
>Hi all - thanks for the link. Noticed a few people coming from here in
>my referal stats.
>
>The figure is real - as is the screen capture in the original post on
>this thread. Of course there is no way to prove this to you unless you
>want to pop over to my house (Melbourne Australia) to see it for
>yourself.
>
>I have about 20 blogs which all contribute to the revenue. They
>generate anything from 35,000 to 45,000 unique visiters per day. I know
>of sites that earn much more than me with less visitors than that
>though. I'm not targetting super high keywords - there is too much
>competition
You have to wonder whether it's from people who know what they're
doing. If not, then it's worth thinking about.
>- I prefer to target topics I know something about and
>build good traffic through quality content.
>
>Anyway - nice discussion you've got going on here!
No worries, mate!
Congrats on all your blogging success. You've certainly inspired me to
blog more! Although, I still have trouble sticking to one topic. My
current blog is about everything under the sun:
http://blog.davisvillage.com
Wow, I love the squirrell story!! Very funny!
But us rodents should stick together, so I'll be looking out for your bike!!
>Can you guys see http://zushop.com or http://www.nerdlance.com now?
>I've set up a new VPS and moved these sites.
Yes can access them now, but it took well over a minute to load. I use
broadband and taking over 10 seconds is rare.
Yep, works fine here.
But, (and maybe it's only me), but it takes an awful long time to load.
Simon
>Can you guys see http://zushop.com or http://www.nerdlance.com now?
>I've set up a new VPS and moved these sites.
Yes.