BT Internet
xxxxxxxxxx
If I take a ADSL service with BT ( Not BT Yahoo ) can I continue to use the
same POP3 e-mail address *********@btinternet.com to forward my yahoo mail
****@yahoo.co.uk on to as before. I suspect only the connection mode
will be affected. I will change my dial up over to PAYG after ADSL is
running.
Thanks
Jim
Henry Hooray
email address. Cost: I pay Ł6.09 for a two year period.
And then you don't have to bother with BT's absolutely pathetic and quite
expensive broadband offering. BT are, from my actual experience in this
field, uniquely poor.
Henry.
"xxxxxxxxxx" <x...@x.com> wrote in message
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xxxxxxxxxx
I agree with you entirely, but that did not answer the question asked in
order to assist a friend of mine who want to consider staying with BT.
Jim
( left BTi 2001)
"Henry Hooray" <c2mi...@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com> wrote in message
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> Suggestion - nay, recommendation: get your own permanent domain name and
> email address. Cost: I pay £6.09 for a two year period.
Alex Heney
>I currently have Bt Internet, I never converted to BT Yahoo.
>
You're wrong about that. Everybody was converted. They had no choice.
>If I take a ADSL service with BT ( Not BT Yahoo ) can I continue to use the
>same POP3 e-mail address *********@btinternet.com to forward my yahoo mail
>****@yahoo.co.uk on to as before. I suspect only the connection mode
>will be affected. I will change my dial up over to PAYG after ADSL is
>running.
>
If you mean you are taking the BTBroadband service, and closing your
BTYahoo dial up account, then no.
That address will no longer exist when the account is closed.
It is possible to keep it by paying £1.50 per month for "premium
mail". OR it is possible to keep one address only (which must be the
primary address) without paying, but that will only be accessible via
webmail.
Henry Hooray
> Dear Mr Hooray,
>
> I agree with you entirely, but that did not answer the question asked in
> order to assist a friend of mine who want to consider staying with BT.
>
> Jim
> ( left BTi 2001)
My apologies.
As and when your friend (he of the peculiar fondness for BT) signs up with
BT Broadband, he - or his helper, i.e. you - has to be exceedingly careful.
Certainly the BT Broadband Basic, which is allegedly cheap (alleged by BT;
and it ain't cheap) does not offer ANY pop email facilities. So there is
nothing to redirect to. Amazing, but true. The more expensive offering
probably have; perhaps your friend is very rich or just enjoys throwing his
hard-earned money away.
In an earlier thread here I asked for help for this situation, and was
delighted to get a few very helpful answers. First of all, I set my friend
up with his own domain name and permanent email address, and then, with the
help of http://www.uk.clara.net/btbroadband/, we got both POP and SMTP via a
third party. So his day was rescued, but only just.
I hope this has helped!
Henry.
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I'm afraid he is quite rich but is a bit of a cheapskate as far as this is
concerned. The lack of mail accounts is a problem as I put him an old
*****@yahoo.co.uk mail address to let him stay flexible years ago. He needs
mail server acsess to send mail out. As you say, it is astonishing that BT
in basic form do not offer this.
He also has a dormant Freeserve a/c which we will upgrade to Wanadoo. Not my
reccommendation as I use NDO. The domain option was a " no no " due to cost,
albeit small in my view.
Wanadoo offer an " up to " 1MB service, if possible, for £17.99 with the
first three months at half price. He could throw a stone at the exchange. Me
also.
It was too much of a magnet for him to pass by.
Thanks for you help Henry
Jim
"Henry Hooray" <c2mi...@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com> wrote in message
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The Grass is greener
>"xxxxxxxxxx" <x...@x.com> wrote in message
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>> Dear Mr Hooray,
>>
>> I agree with you entirely, but that did not answer the question asked in
>> order to assist a friend of mine who want to consider staying with BT.
>>
>> Jim
>> ( left BTi 2001)
>
>My apologies.
>
>As and when your friend (he of the peculiar fondness for BT) signs up with
>BT Broadband, he - or his helper, i.e. you - has to be exceedingly careful.
>Certainly the BT Broadband Basic, which is allegedly cheap (alleged by BT;
>and it ain't cheap) does not offer ANY pop email facilities. So there is
>nothing to redirect to.
You actually mean that BT BB (basic and standard) don't supply any
email, webspace or newsgroup access as part of the package.
However, the user can still "pop" their email.
You also do have to be careful with these cheap BB suppliers - since
some actually charge for connection and modem - which all adds to the
cost.
The Grass is greener
>I currently have Bt Internet, I never converted to BT Yahoo.
Not sure what this bit means - but BTinternet doesn't exist in terms
of home user accounts any more, they are BTYahoo! - the mail address
hasn't changed.
>
>If I take a ADSL service with BT ( Not BT Yahoo ) can I continue to use the
>same POP3 e-mail address *********@btinternet.com to forward my yahoo mail
>****@yahoo.co.uk on to as before. I suspect only the connection mode
>will be affected. I will change my dial up over to PAYG after ADSL is
>running.
>
If you convert the account to PAYG, then as long as you dial up the
account every so often, 90 days I think; the terms and conditions give
details; then the account remains active. You will then be able to
keep the @btinternet.com address. You could convert it to premium
account status for £1.50 per month - but I can't see the need for
this, unless you don't want to dial up.
With the BT Broadband service, you will be able to send and receive
emails as you do at the moment - the servers for BTYahoo! can be used.
You may have to make sure that SMTP authentication is set.
xxxxxxxxxx
service and web space without restrictions on download, unlike BT set an 1
mb. Of course he had to pay £19.99 and supply his own modem & filters.
"The Grass is greener" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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The Grass is greener
both up and down load.
( not 1mb - this is about 125KB )
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:48:01 -0000, [xxxxxxxxxx] said :-
Henry Hooray
> Henry
>
> I'm afraid he is quite rich but is a bit of a cheapskate as far as this is
> concerned. The lack of mail accounts is a problem as I put him an old
> *****@yahoo.co.uk mail address to let him stay flexible years ago. He
needs
> mail server acsess to send mail out. As you say, it is astonishing that BT
> in basic form do not offer this.
>
> He also has a dormant Freeserve a/c which we will upgrade to Wanadoo. Not
my
> reccommendation as I use NDO. The domain option was a " no no " due to
cost,
> albeit small in my view.
Some people get rich by being cheapskates. Unfortunately this hasn't worked
for me yet!
Just for your info: I use 123Reg for domain names. They have email
forwarding (catch-all plus three or four specified, if you what them) and
frameless web-forwarding. Costs Ł6.09 incl VAT for a two year period. And
then users never ever have to tell everybody again that they have changed
address.
Ah well, user, eh, who needs 'em :o)
Henry.
poster
>As you say, it is astonishing that BT in basic form do not offer this.
Not at all - they seemed to have problems keeping things running some time ago
and to devolve any responsibility to some other firm seems an easy 'cop
out'. Look at BT Broadband simply offering connectivity and expecting users
to buy in news and mail from others (they used to have links to both Plus.Net
and ClaraNet but have them no more!).
>He also has a dormant Freeserve a/c which we will upgrade to Wanadoo.
>Wanadoo offer an " up to " 1MB service, if possible, for £17.99 with the
>first three months at half price. He could throw a stone at the exchange.
>It was too much of a magnet for him to pass by.
Then he deserves everything he gets. He will perhaps complain when he one day
exceeds the cap and blames you for the download of anti-virus updates pushing
him over the limit :-) I feel sorry for you, being in the awkward position
of giving him sensible advice for him to then ignore and most likely he'll
be unhappy with choices *he* has made, and which were avoidable, where you
would find it easy to say 'I could have told you so', but bite your tongue !
--
PlusNet <http://tinyurl.com/24ymz> - I recommend them and save some cash.
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accept an advance order. The exchange goes live on 17th Nov. He has now
followed my advice and taken NDO. Great service, speed , no limits on
downloads, e-mails, web space, etc.. It is now set up awaiting the
activation date.
Thanks for assistance
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poster
>The exchange goes live on 17th Nov. He has now followed my advice and
>taken NDO. Great service, speed , no limits on downloads, e-mails,
>web space, etc.. It is now set up awaiting the activation date.
Well done. Next thing will be the domain name which can be made to
forward to whatever mail account he gets from future ISPs. Since you
are already using NDO, you can compare notes easily if there's ever any
small period of downtime, etc. I value recommendations from _users_ :-)
--
com/org/info/biz domains as low as $8.00/year
com/org/info/biz transfers give 12 month extension
.co.uk for under a tenner (under 7 quid even!)
See <http://www.vfm-deals.com/>
xxxxxxxxxx
He's not that rich.
Regards
Jim
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poster
>Steady on, another Ł7 a year !!!!!!!!! He's not that rich.
but in 12 months, will he be switching ISP to some other, just as his
contacts are used to seeing some NDO mail address ? With more options
to have shorter term (3 or 1 month) contracts on ADSL, I'd think that
changing e-mail address if one uses the ISP's own service is going to
be growing rather than dropping and a complete pain (except to avoid
a spammer that has had the mail address as a target for some years).
Henry Hooray
>
> but in 12 months, will he be switching ISP to some other, just as his
> contacts are used to seeing some NDO mail address ? With more options
> to have shorter term (3 or 1 month) contracts on ADSL, I'd think that
> changing e-mail address if one uses the ISP's own service is going to
> be growing rather than dropping and a complete pain (except to avoid
> a spammer that has had the mail address as a target for some years).
In any case, £3 per year is nearer the mark. As I've mentioned earlier, I
pay £6.09 for two years, including frameless web redirection and not only
catch-all email redirection, but also including three or four (can't
remember which) named addresses as well.
Henry.
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being used. So e-mails are not an issue for him.
Jim
"Henry Hooray" <c2mi...@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com> wrote in message
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poster
>He is set up on a Yahoo.co.uk address which forwards to whoever is the ISP
>being used. So e-mails are not an issue for him.
It might be, the day they start charging a fee (01/04/2005) :-)
poster
>In any case, £3 per year is nearer the mark.
Yes, thanks for the reminder ! A little more than the cost of 2 coffees
in a pub. I think the comment earlier was 'tongue in cheek' ! Peter M
Steve
(xxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
> *Subject:* BT Internet
> *From:* "xxxxxxxxxx" <x...@x.com>
> *Date:* Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:40:37 +0100
Hi Jim,
You are correct, you will be able to continue collecting your pop3 mail as
before, but if you are going to BTB you will need a method of sending. BTB
(at the moment) will allow connections to their smtp service, using smtp
authorisation, but this is unsupported and may be withdrawn at any time.
(Remember that this is BT you are dealing with!)
As Henry pointed out, your better bet would be to leave BT and get a
proper ADSL supplier, you will still be able to collect your pop3 from
BTInternet using another supplier. (I have been doing just that for over
18 months!)
- Steve
Henry Hooray
> On 3 Nov 2004 "Henry Hooray" wrote:
>
>
> Yes, thanks for the reminder ! A little more than the cost of 2 coffees
> in a pub. I think the comment earlier was 'tongue in cheek' ! Peter M
In any case (must I start with this every time?), the issue here is - as you
identify - that you are never 'safe' with an email address that has been
lent to you by a large corporation. Unless they are all bleeding hearts then
it is a pretty certain prediction that they will want their pound of flesh
one day - on their terms.
Hotmail is but one case in point. If you hadn't changed your Hotmail a
couple of years ago to the fee paying service they started to provide, you
suddenly found one morning that all emails more than a week or two old had
disappeared.
But the good news: you can get nearly two pints of pretty good beer in
Wetherspoons for Ł3. Maybe that's where xxxxx's headstrong friend is
actually going right and not wrong :o)
Henry.