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> Astrology
> ========= An Introduction
>
> This article is not about the astrology you are bound to meet
> everywhere from popular web sites to best magazines. Astrology
> has a heart and the purpose of this article is to get to it.
>
> = Astrology = http://puck.dhs.org O5 exOrci5m
>
> The Moon goes up. The Sun goes down. True Mind ascends to Heaven
> while the Shade goes to Hades. /1/ It is not like the good go to
> paradise and the bad to hell. It is like your good side travels
> to paradise in afterlife and your bad side goes to hell. True Mind
> is not only symbolized by the Moon, it might go there. There are in
> fact authoritative books (the vedas, Franz Bardon, Carlos Castaneda)
> that hint at astral travel to the Moon. /2/ The Moon is of course
> inhabited by classified spirits, mostly busy within some kind of
> fertility mission. The mansions of the Moon, whether chinese or
> elsewise, try and define such spirits. Existing reports of actual
> intercourse with lunar spirits shed more light on this important
> and primary facet of basic astrology. The author is in possession
> of such documents. We can now open to the rich world of true astrology
> having almost nothing to do with the usual publications and presentation.
>
> Stepping into the world of astrology we already have a first problem.
> Where is the Moon? /2/ What is the Moon? Already at the beginning we
> have to set aside all that was written and calculated, since we need
> the precise position, not the generally aproximative or geocentrical
> position. The first step is to know where precisely your natal Moon
> is. I'll mention here a few brief hints, while hundreds of articles
> can be found online (on usenet, in our archives, in the newsgroup).
>
> The Moon's position is not important to non-astrologers, because
> it is immaterial to them which degrees and star it occupies, as
> well as which constellation. They don't even know their natal Moon
> is not there at all. The error might not be over 3/4 degree, but it's
> fatal for several more or less obvious reasons. Precision of the
> predictions is at stake (this applies only to astrologers, others
> might not do predictions), particullary when it comes to directing.
>
> There are some 250 directing techniques in astrology, but one must
> conclude they are not in use. Today's astrological authorities do
> not use sophisticated programs, they simply use the main transits
> and not without several types of standard errors of which we already
> mentioned part of one of the main errors. The Moon is to be calculated
> locally, possibly including (above-sea) elevation. Several corrections
> are possible which would lead us into astronomy, exactly where astrology
> has been born in the first place. Astronomy is our target, to put it
> plain.
>
> Already at the beginning we are facing a gap between the heart of
> astrology and it's popular preassumptions. More than 99.99% of the
> astrological population, authorities included, has their own chart
> miscalculated, and that's for starters.
>
> Someone born November 28th has a Sun Antares conjunction. Antares is
> one of the main stars of Scorpio constellation. Therefore the natal
> Sun is in Scorpio constellation. This is no vedic astrology, this is
> plain astronomy. Only by substracting 24 days from your tropical Sun
> position will you know it's true position. That's so annoying as people
> tend to think they were born in the next sign, yet another
> miscalculation.
>
> Instead of dwelling on all of the errors popular astrology is passing
> on to the new generation, let us rather plunge into an exciting world
> where we don't dwell, or even mention, tropical signs; but we do
> observe the recent and upcoming comets, simulating their paths.
>
> We enjoy every discovery of giant transneptunian objects, such as Quaoar
> and cherish the appearance of a new centaur. Astrology is not a boring
> Sunsign nonsense at all. Accurate predictions can be made very fast, in
> fact in seconds, as to the year, the month, day and even the hour and
> minute of an event. This event can be discreated before it starts to
> happen, and a new future design can be installed in the mind of the
> creator.
>
> Using true positions enables rich delineation. Chariklo is a
> centauress larger than Chiron. If we interpret it in Crater
> constellation, it's true position, we return to fantasy and
> the grail legends. The same with any object, Moon including.
> Perhaps you come across Moon in Sextant constellation.
> (I'll include examples, such as Moon in Sextant).
>
> = Astrology = http://puck.dhs.org O5 exOrci5m
>
> "Lasse che i stroleghi fazza i lunari."
>
> The upper phrase is in 18th century venethian language
> (lengoa venexian) meaning "let the astrologers do lunars".
>
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>
> Let the astrologers do lunar charts. What is a lunar chart?
> There are many lunar maps and more than 250 techniques of
> prediction, usually in the class of "directions". The lunar
> yearly direction is one of the most indicative maps in astrology.
>
> (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t...@puck.dhs.org
> Flowery language coupled with razor sharp precision encompassing
> all astral influences into a well defined reprogramable future.
> http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck
>
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>
> MatriX time: Sun Apr 27 06:54:12 GMT 2003
>
> Scanning the matrix of the events at high speed slightly alters
> the matrix. In this way the skilled diviner acts as matrix hacker.
> puck.dhs.org is a place where astrological predictions
> determine the year, month, day and even the hour and minute
> of the event. I Ching MatriX Scanning speed is 250/minute.
>
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> Apart from offering rich astrological content and several
> forums for O5 training, this site provides professional
> personal services. Leading edge astrology is coupled with
> O5 applications to help forming the best possible future for you!
>
> puck.dhs.org is a place where astrological predictions
> determine the year of the event in seconds. This is done
> using basic astrology (e.g. primary directions). We need
> no computer or ephemeris to do that. The astrologer knows
> all the loves in your life in one session, future or past.
>
> Knowing I Ching by heart since 1977 enables scanning the future
> in seconds with wonderful insight and precision. Apart from daily
> events, dreams can be scanned and productively interpreted. The
> benefit of an I Ching session is immense and one is never tired
> even after 108 questions. I Ching is a complex navigational and
> astrological device in constant development.
>
> Scanning the matrix of the events at high speed slightly alters
> the matrix. In this way the skilled diviner acts as matrix hacker.
>
> Advanced astrology includes the new giant transneptunian objects,
> as well as the centaurs. Among the many exclusive features of our
> services, allow me to mention the Dark Planets, a set of 17 rare
> gems in experimental astrology.
>
> This site boasts the first delineation of many objects, among them
> Varuna, Ixion and Quaoar, the best known transneptunians. They have
> been delineated _before_ they were named, so no easy yahoo mythology
> influenced their delineations. Quaoar is the most important and the
> largest discovery since Pluto. http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar/ quaoar.html
> Our site has a 500 Mb database/worklab dedicated to Quaoar. Conclusions
> and philosophy are seldom if ever influenced by any other site. In fact
> there might be no other site at all concerning most recent discoveries.
>
> In our wish to follow and delineate comets, centaurs, transneptunians,
> we had no time to glance at what others were doing. This means original
> approach and special techniques. Great use was made of constellations,
> something ovelooked elsewhere, precision improved, two rather unknown
> Earth's trojans received the status of "(quasi) sattelites", comets
> were given more space after perhaps centuries of neglect.
>
> What keeps us fascinated is that the precise technology we use scans for
> future discoveries, but could be able to rediscover mysterious objects
> like Cassini Lilit, Nibiru or even some "darkplanet". It seems that from
> time to time hypothetical objects are actually discovered. It perhaps
> happened with an "retrograde" avestan, and possibly "uranian" Cupido.
>
> (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t...@puck.dhs.org
> Flowery language coupled with razor sharp precision encompassing
> all astral influences into a well defined reprogramable future.
> http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck
>
> Quick articles scan: http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html
>
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> MatriX time:Sun Apr 27 08:59:35 GMT 2003
>
> /1/
>
>
> = In Two Minds = http://puck.dhs.org O5 exOrci5m
>
> Dedicated to O5 developers (especially "pOlari5" and "Huggie").
>
> Sources:
>
> Jammes Legge - I Ching (courtesy Lady Pylenor)
> George St Clair - Creation Records Discovered in Egypt
> Carlos Castaneda - Journey to Ixtlan (courtesy D.C.)
> Robert Temple - The Crystal Sun (courtesy G.D.)
>
> I sincerely guess this is my second article with this title.
> The title is shared with a song (Art Bears) Sung by Dagmar Krause.
>
> Disclaimer:
>
> It is not easy to write an article for the general public. This
> article has been written for close friends and co/writers on my
> own list/newsgroup, as well as spiritual USENET newsgroups.
>
> Credits:
>
> I must express my thanks to dear friends who encouraged me during
> the past years and selflessly took over the lead when I was losing
> my customary impetus; lady Pylenor, Plutonia, Gea Jones. Appreciating:)
>
> I also thank my dear invisible admins, Colby and Andross of main server
> http://ghettobox.dhs.org and of course Homer Wilson Smith for enabling us
> to organize our work via our newsgroup on his server. Thanks, Homer!
>
> Discreate MatriX spells with O5! You are the One!
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>
> On various opportunities we used to mention the "false or default"
> "voladero mind", the mind we use most of the time. In fact, many
> if not all think there's only one. I guess we call it "psyche";
> correct me if I'm wrong. Psyche variousely translates as "soul"
> or even "shade". "Eidolon" seems to be the vision (darshan) of
> the soul. The soul apparently does not necessarely have a visual
> connotation, while eidolon (plural eidola) is always a visual
> visitation (much as described in Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Castaneda).
>
> Afterdeath Heracles (centaur Nessus and Heracles did not go together
> very well) goes to Mount Olympus, but his shade goes to Hades. Now
> while this is a known mythological fact, what do we have here?
>
> The chinese have something similar in their own mythology. One of
> the souls is bound to go downwards and the other flies heavenwards
> They even have appropriate names for those twin souls. So afterdeath
> has a splitting connotation for the two souls. It would seem only
> logical that the "voladero mind install" goes down (to some chinese
> Hades) and the ascended soul (True Mind) goes up. Up where? Down
> where? The chinese insist on "up and down" and in fact Olympus is
> "up" and Hades is "down", the "underworld". Very strange, indeed.
>
> Anima and animus? Quoting James Legge (courtesy Lady Pylenor):
> "Kwei denotes the animal soul or nature, and Shan the intellectual soul"
> The Kwei-shans offer an amusing as well as disorientating variety of
> interpretations, from "the demon-god" to demon-gods. One being made of
> a sinking demon and an ascending god are we? Possibly so. Two souls.
>
> ftp://puck.dhs.org/pub/incoming/erg.mp3
>
> Castaneda does not mention two souls. To my knowledge he has the
> "double", something much more concrete than a mere "eidolon". Is
> then the body the counterpart? This difficulty is hardly resolved
> by Taisha Abelar (courtesy Lady Pylenor) and her ascension.
>
> O5 articles usually point at "true mind" and "voladero mind".
> This flyer or voladero mind gets mad at the very mention of
>
> True Mind
>
> as widely seen on USENET. It cannot even think to think of another
> mind and is in fact programmed to stop the other from any emanation.
>
> How come the chinese had a rather fair notion of the two minds?
> At that time man was more clear (to use the word) and there must
> have been wise men everywhere.
>
> The Gemini constellation twins perhaps add to explanation, one being
> mortal, the other immortal. Now if the egyptian "ka" can live without
> the body (and not vice versa), is this the famous Castaneda's nagual
> (we can't speak about)? In some sense the taoist immortals perhaps
> transferred their consciousness in some kind of finer body (eidolon?)
> and "dissapeared in thin air" (almost a paining by Castaneda).
>
> The egyptian gods have their own "ka"s, therefore the greek follow
> suit. Is the "ka" created in the image of the god? Of course. Then
> Adam is God's "ka"? This is probably wrong reasoning out. I leave
> the word to Shimon ben ha-Levi (link to be included).
>
> I'd like to include some (perhaps Navajo?) indian mythology on this
> line. Perhaps someone would like to contribute?
>
> The egyptian ka (eidolon?) _did_ eat, drink and go around. A fine
> vampire, indeed. Don Henaro informs us that "his ka" (he calls it
> "the double") cannot eat or drink. But then, Doh Henaro was alive
> all of the time, and the mention of "ka" I used refers to mumiae.
>
> When we discreate properly, we send away the eidolon, the image
> dissolves. (This passage needs much purport!) Nama means name
> and rupa means form. Eidolon could be equated with form.
>
> The egyptians put stress on the name. We use the name (label for
> discreation) and form in O5. We train to discreate the form, while
> labeling the discreation with a name. Perhaps we could experiment
> with _naming_ the discreation first? Currently most exposed developers
> (Huggie .nz and pOlari5 .jp) could develop some logical (pragmatical)
> formula (O5 has many variants). There is a strange stress on the name
> (the golem, Franz Bardon's work, Adam names the daemons, ENKI naming
> creations) as opposed and complementary to form. Are we yinyanging
> again? Meaning name = yang, form = yin (just speculating)?
>
> When we discreate a physical object, I don't suppose we actually
> discreate the object itself in the first place. We take the object
> to "higher ground" (it's eidolon or ka?) and discreate it's "shade".
> This already smecks black magick in some respect and I better stop.
>
> Various implications follow and a rich (majikal) delineation follows
> for our develOper5 horoscopes. One sends the discreated to the Moon
> sphere, inhales the Ascendant, etc. Perhaps we should include the
> Moon matrix theory in our deliveries and material. (This passage
> is very unclear, included for further deveopment.)
>
> At this stage O5 becomes too complicated for the common "avatar" or
> people in general. It is not that we're getting curious. we have to
> know what we do, and when we succeed, we must ask _why_ did we have
> success. This eliminates childish disenchantment when things go wrong.
>
> The rationale is that people know that O5 (or even Sedona and Avatar)
> work. Results can materialize in hours. But do we positively know why?
>
> (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t...@puck.dhs.org
> Flowery language coupled with razor sharp precision encompassing
> all astral influences into a well defined reprogramable future.
> http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck
>
> alt.clearing.O5 newsgroup, dedicated to O5 clearing and
> futurechanging formula. SnowCrash (TM) your futurities
> fast! Create any wanted reality in minutes! Become the
> master of events! http://puck.dhs.org/alt.clearing.O5
> Astronomical edge astrology for enhanced precision and update.
> I Ching futurity masterscanning = Indulge in questions!
> Klaudio Zic t...@puck.dhs.org http://puck.dhs.org
> MatriX time:Sat Apr 26 19:36:21 GMT 2003
>
> Sources:
>
> Jammes Legge - I Ching (courtesy Lady Pylenor)
> George St Clair - Creation Records Discovered in Egypt
> Carlos Castaneda - Journey to Ixtlan
> Robert Temple- The Crystal Sun
>
> /2/
>
>
> Neptune had no rival. He enchanted the Sun. Quaoar is something
> transcendental (transneptunian) to Neptune and might even enchant
> Neptune! http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar /quaoar.html /delineations
>
> = Xingu = http://puck.dhs.org (Shumerian Astralogy)
>
> (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t...@puck.dhs.org
>
> There seems to be a saying going round that Sun is the Father
> and Moon is the Mother. While this may hold true in the new
> age area and some astrological backwaters, let us investigate
> into sitchinian, vedic and majikal astrology.
>
> The ascendant (hebr. gooph) is said to be the "cover" of the
> real and "spiritual" being. Since the ascendant is connected
> to Earth (rotation) and Malkuth, it was assumed (Halevi) that
> the ascendant is the body, the self at hand or default self
> (or first attention).
>
> Enuma Elish has Kingu as minister of Tiamut. Ministring means
> being a satellite, such as in I Ching (::::|:). As many a
> satellite one has, the more is he shielded against an intruder
> or gravitational and impact hazard. An intruder is an object
> changing the orbits of a stable solar system from elliptical
> to heart-shaped, as it passes by. Our system was not stable
> when Nibiru not only went by, but also dropped in.
>
> THE FIRST TABLET
>
> When in the height heaven was not named,
> And the earth beneath did not yet bear a name,
> And the primeval Apsu, who begat them,
> and chaos, Tiamut, the Mother of them both
>
> ...
>
> Confusion reigned, as Enuma Elish and Zecharia Sitchin inform
> us. Note that Tiamut is possibly in incestual /1b/ relationship with
> Apsu, the begetter of gods. The orbits of the planets (their fates)
> were not stable. The "evil counsel" /1/ and plot comes from Mummu,
> Mercury, Apsu's spy, servant and first minister (compare I Ching
> 4th line). /1a/
>
> Tiamat /2/ is actually set to protect the planets.
>
> She exalted Kingu; ...
>
> Kingu becomes her main satellite. After the Nibiru (Marduk) intrusion,
> Kingu's remanants form our Moon and Tiamat's form our Earth. That has
> been proposed in Zecharia Sitchin's works.
>
> The first implication is that the 12 signs correspond to 12 planets.
> Perhaps some extremely anti-Tiamat-an religious sect (patriarchal)
> has removed Tiamat, Kingu and even Nibiru, from the whole story.
>
> Whoever wants Mercury to rule both Virgo and Gemini, must have been
> politically patriarchal. The most annoying alusion that Tiamut is in
> fact the Mother _and_ queen of Apsu must have been annoying /3/ to
> most patriarchal political orders of old.
>
> It is plain that Tiamat rules Virgo, and as we shall see, this is
> naturally c/o shared by Vesta, Ceres, Pallas, Eunomia and Juno. /A/
>
> Nibiru was unobservable most of the time, so it understandably
> dissapeared and "lost rulership". /4/
>
> Now from what we have learned, the Earth is ex Tiamat, the Mother.
> Thus the earth is the Mother herself. This goes nicely with Carlos
> Castaneda (Journey to Ixtlan): the Earth is our Mother. Mother Earth.
>
> This is quite enough to shake the weak fundations of popular astrology.
> The ascendant would be the significator of the Mother, not of the being
> or event in question. But since we (at least our physical body) are
> built from earthly elements (dust to dust), the premise may still hold.
>
> We must also consider our main belt as our Mother. The One Ring of
> asteoids is Tiamat, too. She is quite a bit scattered and the largest
> pieces bear female names like Vesta, Ceres, Pallas, Eunomia, Juno, ...
> all major asteroids in the main belt bear female names. /1/
>
> Apsu, the father, the Sun, is the begetter, but also Tiamat's son
> and husband. This si far fetched and not easily fathomable. Although
> a transneptunian bears the name of Chaos, this adds up to confusion.
>
> Where is the Mother mentioned in the bible? The real question is where
> is the Father mentioned, if at all. The second and third word of the
> bible mention the Mothers. The feminine ALHIM was strangely corrupted
> to "God". The various deities were all made one by paranoid patriarchal
> translators. ALHIM is plural, plain to see and eventually "masculine
> plural of a feminine noun", whatever the linguistic chaos, it cannot
> hide (that God is a):
>
> A/ Plural.
>
> (with a)
>
> B/ Female root.
>
> The Moon is just the Mother's prime minister. Let us not forget this
> planet has at least two trojans, thus Chruithne and 2002 AA29 are it's
> secondary and tertiary ministers. See the site for "third Moon" simscans.
>
> The Sun is malefic (ego) in vedic astrology. It is the devil (los
> voladeros)
> in our systematization, our real inorganic enemy. /6/ It is
> understandable
> for the easterner that "ego" is the devil('s mind) and enemy. We are our
> own enemies, or have been made into being so. /C/
>
> The conqueror of mankind is an inorganic, a foreign being able to
> install a mind for us based on greed and paranoia. Zen removes this
> mind, emancipating True Mind. /B/
>
>
> /A/ Tiamat's remanants form the main asteroid belt. However, there is
> a much larger asteroid belt, dwarfing the main belt by individual
> size of object, as well as vastness, the Kuiper Belt.
>
> Could it be that a larger explosion created this enchanting belt?
> The transneptunians are much larger than the centaurs and main
> belt asteroids. See also "TNO Update" from the site and USENET.
>
> Prior to being named, the centaurs and transneptunians receive
> designation. Thus the last large transneptunian we delineated
> was 2003 AZ84, and the new centaur is 2003 CO1.
>
> Most reading astrologers are fairly acquainted with centaurs
> Chiron, Hylonome, Nessus, Asbolus, Chariklo and Pholus.
>
> The major transneptunians are Quaoar, 2002 AW197, 2002 TX300.
> The named transneptunians are Rhadamanthus, Chaos, Varuna and Ixion.
>
> All objects are pioneering on the site. The first triumph after
> 1992 QB1 was giant Varuna, then still greater Ixion, and finally
> the largest discovery after Pluto, Quaoar. Original first and of
> course unique (the only) delineations are available from the site.
> Since the objects were delineated _before_ they have been named,
> a large amount of objectiveness is implied.
>
> /B/
>
> Perhaps the Moon is True Mind, in which case Enuma Elish also describes
> the fall of man and arrival of "los voladeros". This subject has been
> talked about AD NAVSEAM on the mailing list and newsgroup(s). Try a
> local, archive and http://groups.google.com USENET search.
>
> /C/ The devil (or voladero, flyer) is not native to this planet.
> The fal of man is recorded when the devil(s) came to the planet.
> The cinese record them as "thunders" or flying inorganic beings
> visible to children and seers. The best account of our enemy
> news:alt.dreams.castaneda is given in the last Castaneda's
> masterpiece "The Active Side of Infinity".
>
> /1/ Strangely it is Gwydion-Morderd to incarnate such a name and
> kabalistical meanig (HVD) http://ghettobox.dhs.org/t8 /iching.html
>
> /1a/ The careless reader will buy this. Tiamut is the mother of heaven
> and earth (whatever that means), along with the begetter, Apsu. A
> male principle begetting, along with the female. What is the female
> for? Isn't she the begetter? Shumerian thought and politics must be
> closely studied to dig that.
>
> Naming is majik in itself. Refer to Franz Bardon.
>
> Neptune had no rival. He enchanted the Sun. Quaoar is something
> transcendental (transneptunian) to Neptune and might even enchant
> Neptune! http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar /quaoar.html /delineations
>
> /1b/ Note that nowhere it is said that Apsu created Tiamut. That implies
> that nowhere it is said that Tiamut created Apsu. But it is the
> feminine who gives birth. Tiamut raged and fought Apsu, who would
> dare to go against the Sun? Was Neptune larger (or just
> electromajikal)
> when he enchanted the Sun? Neptune is higher a vibration and cakra.
> http://ghettobox.dhs.org/t8 iching.html
>
> /2/ The L.W. King Translation, London 1902. Tiamut strangely changes to
> Tiamat.
>
> /3/ Compare Mary Magdalen, Sarah Kali, Isis cults, Simon Magus.
>
> /4/ We have discussed proper rulership elsewhere. See also "Chinese
> Nibiru" series. http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html
>
> /5/ The centaurs bear male and female names, and the transneptunians
> bear mostly male names.
>
> /6/ Searh http://groups.google.com for "los voladeros" or "voladero"
> or use http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html along with "Chinese Nibiru".
>
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>
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