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Ether St. Vying

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Sep 3, 2003, 4:44:26 AM9/3/03
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The page is up:
http://home.ca.inter.net/~stevedor/EGarden4.html

There's a nip in the air, and it's gnawing a hole where the rain gets
in.

But the crickets are amazing at night ... as they shift from frequency
to frequency en masse ... 360 in 3 dimensions ... maybe 4 ...I'm not
sure.

Ether

Bill Cleere

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"Ether St. Vying" <temp...@caveatemptor.eh> wrote in message news:<3F55A9E2...@caveatemptor.eh>...

We have had exactly one cricket outside our bedroom
window every night for weeks. At first my wife
was having trouble getting to sleep, and she'd
be saying "I wish that thing would get laid so it
would shut up." Now she's fallen in love with her
cricket buddy and is afraid she won't be able to
sleep when he goes away.

-- Bill Cleere

rainbowbird

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Sep 4, 2003, 9:21:48 PM9/4/03
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"Bill Cleere" <bcl...@philipkdick.com> wrote in message
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Sounds like a true women ;)

RBB

rainbowbird

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"Ether St. Vying" <temp...@caveatemptor.eh> wrote in message
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Thanks for the wonderful pictures.
It is always refreshing to be in your garden.
You know what I haven't seen the foodsection ever before.
You have vegetables girl !


RBB

Bill Cleere

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"rainbowbird" <r...@sjamanism.com> wrote in message
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Those pictures are just beautiful, aren't they?

Thanks, Ether.

-- Bill Cleere

"I prefer the pleasure of writing bits of nonsense to that of
wearing an embroidered coat which costs 800 francs." (Stendahl)

Ether St. Vying

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Sep 6, 2003, 5:05:07 AM9/6/03
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Bill Cleere wrote:

We had one outside our bedroom window the other year, and I too loved the sound ... then suddenly, one night,
it was incredibly loud. The following evening ... same thing. It was then that we realized that it _had_ to
be inside the house. Crickets aren't fussy about what they eat ... and in the absence of your favourite
plants, will resort to chowing down on things like books and clothes. They're also hard to find because when
they hear you approaching, they shut up. As soon as you move away, they start up again. I played the cricket
game, and eventually found a small cricket hiding under a shoe by the front entrance.

In China they keep crickets as pets, and apparently they chirp quite happily in captivity. I put it in a bug
box. But the cricket wouldn't chirp, or eat anything I gave it. After a few days of sullen cricket, I
released it back into the wild, where it immediately resumed chirping along with the rest of the chorus.

I probably shouldn't tell you this, because it'll suck the sap right out of the previous anecdote ... but
this summer, in the dead of night, I found a cricket as big as my thumb trying to break and enter through the
aluminum screen door. It was poised to dart into the house when I opened it for the dog to get back in. So I
took off my shoe and sacrificed it to the universe. Several ant nations feasted and rejoiced all the next
day. Eventually, someone even dragged off the chitinous hollow shell.

Ether

Ether St. Vying

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Sep 6, 2003, 5:05:24 AM9/6/03
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Bill Cleere wrote:

> "rainbowbird" <r...@sjamanism.com> wrote in message
> news:sAR5b.136096$cI3.7...@amsnews03.chello.com...
> >
> > "Ether St. Vying" <temp...@caveatemptor.eh> wrote in message
> > news:3F55A9E2...@caveatemptor.eh...
> > > The page is up:
> > > http://home.ca.inter.net/~stevedor/EGarden4.html
> > >
> > > There's a nip in the air, and it's gnawing a hole where the rain gets
> > > in.
> > >
> > > But the crickets are amazing at night ... as they shift from frequency
> > > to frequency en masse ... 360 in 3 dimensions ... maybe 4 ...I'm not
> > > sure.
> > >
> > > Ether
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for the wonderful pictures.
> > It is always refreshing to be in your garden.
> > You know what I haven't seen the foodsection ever before.
> > You have vegetables girl !
> >
> >
> > RBB
>
> Those pictures are just beautiful, aren't they?
>
> Thanks, Ether.
>
> -- Bill Cleere

Thanks for the kind words, Bill.

It's a privilege to share beauty where you find it.

Ether

Ether St. Vying

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Sep 6, 2003, 5:05:14 AM9/6/03
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rainbowbird wrote:

> "Ether St. Vying" <temp...@caveatemptor.eh> wrote in message
> news:3F55A9E2...@caveatemptor.eh...
> > The page is up:
> > http://home.ca.inter.net/~stevedor/EGarden4.html
> >
> > There's a nip in the air, and it's gnawing a hole where the rain gets
> > in.
> >
> > But the crickets are amazing at night ... as they shift from frequency
> > to frequency en masse ... 360 in 3 dimensions ... maybe 4 ...I'm not
> > sure.
> >
> > Ether
> >
> >
>
> Thanks for the wonderful pictures.

I love to have visitors in the garden, virtual or otherwise.

> It is always refreshing to be in your garden.

That's all we ask!

>
> You know what I haven't seen the foodsection ever before.

That's because it's new. :-)

>
> You have vegetables girl !

I love growing food ... and then eating it.

Ether

Don Wheeler

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Sep 6, 2003, 6:32:47 AM9/6/03
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"Ether St. Vying" wrote:

YUCKY SUCKY.......

However it does remind me of an interview the Dali Lama made in which he was talking about mosquitos.
Unlike crickets which are peace loving musicians and only reputed to to "eat" books, mosquitos
on the other hand are blood sucking predators whose indiscriminate attacks spread deadly and
deliberating disease amongst mammals.

The Dali Lama said (I paraphrase)
"When the Mosquito bites the first time, I may give him a little blood.
Maybe even a little the second time. But, the third time SMACK "


Bill Cleere

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"Ether St. Vying" <lu...@ttic.web> wrote in message
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I'd like to tell my funny snail story, but I don't want to
offend anybody who is opposed to the offing of snails,
so I will wait for permission.

-- Bill Cleere


Ether St. Vying

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Sep 7, 2003, 3:51:08 AM9/7/03
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Bill Cleere wrote:

Some people eat them.

Don Wheeler

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Sep 7, 2003, 8:55:11 AM9/7/03
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"Ether St. Vying" wrote:

> Don Wheeler wrote:
>
> > "Ether St. Vying" wrote:
> >
> > > Bill Cleere wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Ether St. Vying" <temp...@caveatemptor.eh> wrote in message news:<3F55A9E2...@caveatemptor.eh>...
> > > > > The page is up:
> > > > > http://home.ca.inter.net/~stevedor/EGarden4.html
>

( forgive please for the sake of time and space my sniping major portions of your
lovely prose about singing crickets and squishing bugs )

>
> > YUCKY SUCKY.......
>
> Nah. In nature everything feeds on everything else. Life as we know it rose from metablic waste (read shit) and
> death. Nothing is wasted in nature. Everything is recycled ... and even in that, beauty is in the eye of the
> beholder.

Does that mean you are going to scrape the little bugger onto a cracker and eat 'em
or stitch together his little wing casings into a pouch ?

(just kidding. I mean, I eat hamburger, and don't make the market butcher give me the leather to make shoes with)

> > However it does remind me of an interview the Dali Lama made in which he was talking about mosquitos.
> > Unlike crickets which are peace loving musicians

> <snip>


> > and only reputed to to "eat" books,
>

> I don't know about Tibet, but both House and Field crickets damage textiles, and Camel crickets eat paper in much of
> North America.
>

Dang ! Get out the mobile wood chippers and pay the pipers for their songs, or lets start keeping the books and
textiles in cedar chests, cause I just cant imagine a world with plastic paper or Oriental Rugs.
I mean even things as innocent as plastic grocery bags creep me out.

> > mosquitos on the other hand are blood sucking predators whose indiscriminate attacks spread deadly and
> > deliberating disease amongst mammals.
>

> Aww! They're so misunderstood! With mosquitos, it's just the poor females doing the best they can, trying to get a
> blood meal so that they can perpetuate their species by laying the eggs of the next generation. The males don't
> bite. They nectar.

Yes , we will pass that on to the millions of souls who were deathed by Mosquito borne disease.
Some humans who count and hypothecate upon such shit, say that the little critters account
historically for the highest kill numbers for humans than any other source.
I think they might be leaning towards the hysterical side of things, but even if it is true, the humans are dang sure
pulling into the lead on that one.

>
> > The Dali Lama said (I paraphrase)
> > "When the Mosquito bites the first time, I may give him a little blood.
> > Maybe even a little the second time. But, the third time SMACK "
>

> But I bet he said that before West Nile Virus scare. ;-) Also wouldn't fly in malaria riddled countries.

I said "SMACK" , as he indicated a self defensive murder.

> But I do understand the sentiment and agree. There's altogether too little respect for, and understanding of
> nature's real role in the scheme of life.

I agree . And as far as I can understand such mysteries or am willing to accept with out being able to understand.
"nature" *is* life, and the "scheme" (imho) seems to be one of living and dying in order to affect mutational change.
To just what end that change is directed to, is of course, *part* of the great mystery we find ourselves invested in,
Or in other words, the two great mysteries of being born and dying we presently are simultaneously coming from and
going to.


> We seem to think that we're above nature and entitled to dicker with it at our whim. What most people don't get is
> that we ARE nature and when we dicker with it, we ultimately dicker with ourselves.

My personal conviction is that "nature" is us, but not that we are nature.
I also think that this is mans fundamental misperception. That is, that he sees him self as the supreme conglomeration
just because he realizes that he can see. What he doesn't seem to see
is that there is more to seeing than meets the eye at first glance. He has assumed that the miracle of vision has
automatically endowed him with supremacy and understanding.
That because he can see by understanding part of the process, that means his assumptions about the rest are correct.
" Seeing " however , entails more things than how far, or how small, or how long in time one perceives, and even that
one can perceive. What a loaf of bread looks like usually depends on how hungry we are.
What a loaf of bread looks like however, actually depends more on what it actually is
as opposed to what it is perceived to look like in the eye of the beholder. To understand it
by looking at it is to remove one's self out side the body that it and we are part of .
To look in at it , as opposed to seeing with it , Is to stand outside rather than reside in the merging process that
we and the bread are a part of.


>
> Still, I can't say I'd willingly donate blood to mosquitos, or let crickets live in my house. Spiders yes, house
> centipedes yes ... but most others are not welcome in the house.

I agree. I installed to door so's I could be undisturbed in some areas.
I just consider that they all can't read the signs, and gently round them up and place them back outside the
perimeters.
I do get annoyed by the time it takes out of what I have been allotted, but the alternative seems to be blood, er..
juice on my hands. Plus their little bity screams haunt me. I mean it's bad enough with the herds of cattle and the
other critters all screaming cause of me. I don't need the whine of little insect voices adding to the din..

>
>
> The most incredible thing .... something that is most welcome ... just happpened. They usually emerge in the
> morning, but an Eastern Black Swallowtail just emerged from its chrysalis in one of the bug boxes on the
> windowsill ... in the dead of night! Very unusual. It's absolutely gorgeous! I'll try to get a shot before I
> release it tomorrow.

Thanking you for helping save my soul for another day with the thought of that image.

>
>
> I'm hoping this means that summer will last at least another month ... and that all those horny crickets chirping
> out there get laid!
>
> Ether

I pray for change..... Continually !

don wheeler

Don Wheeler

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Sep 7, 2003, 9:03:25 AM9/7/03
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> Bill Cleere wrote:
> I'd like to tell my funny snail story, but I don't want to offend anybody who
> is opposed to the offing of snails, so I will wait for permission.
>
> -- Bill Cleere

I will make a point of cross posting your reply when you do to
alt.great.french.chefs.confessions

Bill Cleere

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Sep 7, 2003, 1:19:44 PM9/7/03
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"Ether St. Vying" <n...@all.eh> wrote in message
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OK. So, I was reading a book about the North Africa
campaign in World War II. There was a very vivid
description by a British tank commander of the aftermath
of the vicious, confused engagement at Sidi Barana. He
described going back over the battlefield with his unit
and seeing where a Panzer detachment advancing in
line had been hit by concealed 25-pounder howitzers.
The burned-out hulks looked as if they were lined up in
parade-ground formation.

I put the book down and went out on the apartment patio.
My wife had sprinkled some salt on the dirt in front of
our potted plants. There was a perfect row of dried-up
snail shells, looking for all the world as if they had been
hit by artillery inches from the walls of the fort.

It was rather creepy.

-- Bill Cleere


Ether St. Vying

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Sep 11, 2003, 5:17:25 AM9/11/03
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Bill Cleere wrote:

In an amusing kind of way. An illustration of how life imitates art, timing is
everything, and war is war.

Ether


Ether St. Vying

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Sep 11, 2003, 5:17:44 AM9/11/03
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Don Wheeler wrote:

> "Ether St. Vying" wrote:
>
> > Don Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > > "Ether St. Vying" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bill Cleere wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Ether St. Vying" <temp...@caveatemptor.eh> wrote in message news:<3F55A9E2...@caveatemptor.eh>...
> > > > > > The page is up:
> > > > > > http://home.ca.inter.net/~stevedor/EGarden4.html
> >
>
> ( forgive please for the sake of time and space my sniping major portions of your
> lovely prose about singing crickets and squishing bugs )
>
> >
> > > YUCKY SUCKY.......
> >
> > Nah. In nature everything feeds on everything else. Life as we know it rose from metablic waste (read shit) and
> > death. Nothing is wasted in nature. Everything is recycled ... and even in that, beauty is in the eye of the
> > beholder.
>
> Does that mean you are going to scrape the little bugger onto a cracker and eat 'em
> or stitch together his little wing casings into a pouch ?

In some countries they do. In Bali they have all different ways of cooking dragonflies. If you're going to be grilling
them, you leave the wings on. I guess that makes them easier to flip.

> (just kidding. I mean, I eat hamburger, and don't make the market butcher give me the leather to make shoes with)

Or pet food ...

> > > However it does remind me of an interview the Dali Lama made in which he was talking about mosquitos.
> > > Unlike crickets which are peace loving musicians
> > <snip>
> > > and only reputed to to "eat" books,
> >
> > I don't know about Tibet, but both House and Field crickets damage textiles, and Camel crickets eat paper in much of
> > North America.
> >
>
> Dang ! Get out the mobile wood chippers and pay the pipers for their songs, or lets start keeping the books and
> textiles in cedar chests, cause I just cant imagine a world with plastic paper or Oriental Rugs.
> I mean even things as innocent as plastic grocery bags creep me out.

I'm sure they're breeding some superbug to eat those too. ;-)

> > > mosquitos on the other hand are blood sucking predators whose indiscriminate attacks spread deadly and
> > > deliberating disease amongst mammals.
> >
> > Aww! They're so misunderstood! With mosquitos, it's just the poor females doing the best they can, trying to get a
> > blood meal so that they can perpetuate their species by laying the eggs of the next generation. The males don't
> > bite. They nectar.
>
> Yes , we will pass that on to the millions of souls who were deathed by Mosquito borne disease.
> Some humans who count and hypothecate upon such shit, say that the little critters account
> historically for the highest kill numbers for humans than any other source.
> I think they might be leaning towards the hysterical side of things, but even if it is true, the humans are dang sure
> pulling into the lead on that one.

I don't doubt that mosquitos are right up near the top of the list, if not at the very top when it comes to morbidity
and mortality. People with sickle cell anemia are less vulnerable to malaria because of the odd ball shape of their blood
cells. The best off are the ones not debiliatated by sickle cell, but with cells weird enough to offer protection. Makes
you wonder if the mosquitos and the malaria were part of the mechanism driving the mutation.

>
> > > The Dali Lama said (I paraphrase)
> > > "When the Mosquito bites the first time, I may give him a little blood.
> > > Maybe even a little the second time. But, the third time SMACK "
> >
> > But I bet he said that before West Nile Virus scare. ;-) Also wouldn't fly in malaria riddled countries.
>
> I said "SMACK" , as he indicated a self defensive murder.
>
> > But I do understand the sentiment and agree. There's altogether too little respect for, and understanding of
> > nature's real role in the scheme of life.
>
> I agree . And as far as I can understand such mysteries or am willing to accept with out being able to understand.
> "nature" *is* life, and the "scheme" (imho) seems to be one of living and dying in order to affect mutational change.
> To just what end that change is directed to, is of course, *part* of the great mystery we find ourselves invested in,
> Or in other words, the two great mysteries of being born and dying we presently are simultaneously coming from and
> going to.

In the future, we're already there.

> > We seem to think that we're above nature and entitled to dicker with it at our whim. What most people don't get is
> > that we ARE nature and when we dicker with it, we ultimately dicker with ourselves.
>
> My personal conviction is that "nature" is us, but not that we are nature.
> I also think that this is mans fundamental misperception. That is, that he sees him self as the supreme conglomeration
> just because he realizes that he can see. What he doesn't seem to see
> is that there is more to seeing than meets the eye at first glance. He has assumed that the miracle of vision has
> automatically endowed him with supremacy and understanding.
> That because he can see by understanding part of the process, that means his assumptions about the rest are correct.

True.

> " Seeing " however , entails more things than how far, or how small, or how long in time one perceives, and even that
> one can perceive. What a loaf of bread looks like usually depends on how hungry we are.
> What a loaf of bread looks like however, actually depends more on what it actually is
> as opposed to what it is perceived to look like in the eye of the beholder.

Yeah. What does the bread look like to a blind person?

> To understand it
> by looking at it is to remove one's self out side the body that it and we are part of .
> To look in at it , as opposed to seeing with it , Is to stand outside rather than reside in the merging process that
> we and the bread are a part of.

Makes me hungry for a sandwich ...

> > Still, I can't say I'd willingly donate blood to mosquitos, or let crickets live in my house. Spiders yes, house
> > centipedes yes ... but most others are not welcome in the house.
>
> I agree. I installed to door so's I could be undisturbed in some areas.
> I just consider that they all can't read the signs, and gently round them up and place them back outside the
> perimeters.

I do that with some of them. But I'm not so nice to aliens.

>
> I do get annoyed by the time it takes out of what I have been allotted, but the alternative seems to be blood, er..
> juice on my hands. Plus their little bity screams haunt me. I mean it's bad enough with the herds of cattle and the
> other critters all screaming cause of me. I don't need the whine of little insect voices adding to the din..

Help meeeeeeeee! (the fly)

> > The most incredible thing .... something that is most welcome ... just happpened. They usually emerge in the
> > morning, but an Eastern Black Swallowtail just emerged from its chrysalis in one of the bug boxes on the
> > windowsill ... in the dead of night! Very unusual. It's absolutely gorgeous! I'll try to get a shot before I
> > release it tomorrow.
>
> Thanking you for helping save my soul for another day with the thought of that image.
>

I did get a couple of shots, but I haven't looked at them yet, so I don't know if they're any good. He was a stunningly
beautiful, highly colourful, little male. When I opened up the bug box, he immediately took to the sky and flew away,
into the sun, as they all have done when I've released them.

> > I'm hoping this means that summer will last at least another month ... and that all those horny crickets chirping
> > out there get laid!
> >
> > Ether
>
> I pray for change..... Continually !
>
> don wheeler

Things are in a constant state of flux. Permanance is an illusion.

Ether

georg

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Sep 11, 2003, 7:39:06 AM9/11/03
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Ether St. Vying wrote:

>
> Things are in a constant state of flux. Permanance is an illusion.
>

The only constant in my life is this thing: Change.

I have always become absorbed in my reading. Once, while minding the
fire on the point at Camp, I was reading a story of the Congo, and a
jungle fire. I could hear the flames crackle and feel the heat on my
face as I read. Then I put the book down, and realized that the wind had
whipped up the flames, and the bushes next to the fireplace had caught
fire (It was a leap over bare rock of 3 feet). I yelled "Fire!" and had
it doused by the time the rest of the family arrived. I put the book
away for another time.

-georg

Bill Cleere

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"Ether St. Vying" <st...@standing.eh> wrote in message
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One doesn't often run into a mind with such a philosophical
bent as yours on teh Usenet. Not so surprising, though,
perhaps, considering your gardening talents. Sir Thomas
Browne had the same love of generalizing and of all things
flowering and vegetablish.

-- Bill Cleere


Ether St. Vying

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Sep 13, 2003, 2:42:56 AM9/13/03
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Bill Cleere wrote:

I'm bent beyond belief!

> Not so surprising, though,
> perhaps, considering your gardening talents. Sir Thomas
> Browne had the same love of generalizing and of all things
> flowering and vegetablish.

That's just great. Another historical figure stealing my schtick!

I had to google him to getcha. The first result wouldn't load, but the blurb
quoted Virginia Woolf as saying that "... Few people love the writings of Sir
Thomas Browne, but those who do are of the salt of the Earth."

Earthy is good.

Next I came across some quotations from Browne .. and they were good. And then
I just clicked on the e.e. cummings link (because I had to) and got this tasty
mini-collection:


"I am abnormally fond of that precision which creates movement."

"Fortunately, however, I should prefer
to make almost anything else, including locomotives and roses. It is with roses
and locomotives (not to mention acrobats Spring electricity Coney Island the
4th of July the eyes of mice and Niagara Falls) that my "poems" are competing."

i thank You God for most this amazing
day: for the leaping greenly spirits of
trees
and a blue true dream of sky; and for
everything
which is natural which is infinite
which is yes

(i who have died am alive again today,
and this is the sun's birthday; this is
the birth
day of life and of love and wings: and
of the gay
great happening illimitably earth)

how should tasting touching hearing
seeing
breathing any--lifted from the no
of all nothing--human merely being
doubt unimaginable You?

(now the ears of my ears awake and
now the eyes of my eyes are opened)

--e.e. cummings

"Do not hate or fear the artist in
yourselves...Honor and love him...do not try to possess him. Trust him as nobly
as you trust tomorrow. Only the artist in yourself is more truthful than the
night." e. e. cummings 6 non-lectures

e. e. cummings: "the only slavery is
service without love." "the question 'who am I?' is answered by what I write, I
become my writing."

http://www.webdesk.com/quotations/cummings-e-e.html

Mmmmmm ... I would have loved to share a sandwich with e.e. ... just the other
day, I was toying with the thought that I am what I write.

Ether


Ether St. Vying

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Sep 13, 2003, 2:42:46 AM9/13/03
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georg wrote:

Good idea. Wouldn't want the book catching on fire!

Ether

Bill Cleere

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Sep 13, 2003, 9:32:51 PM9/13/03
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"Ether St. Vying" <speci...@generalist.com> wrote in message
news:3F62BC69...@generalist.com...

There're people all over Usenet bent in one way or another
for better or worse. But few are philosophical, strictly
speaking, in being instinctively given to generalizing from
the particular to the general.

It's a fine thing. Two hundred years ago you would have
been just one of the crowd, but today it's not in form.

> > Not so surprising, though,
> > perhaps, considering your gardening talents. Sir Thomas
> > Browne had the same love of generalizing and of all things
> > flowering and vegetablish.
>
> That's just great. Another historical figure stealing my schtick!

The Garden of Cyrus is online. It has lots of wonderful stuff
about flora and vegetablalia.

> I had to google him to getcha. The first result wouldn't load, but the
blurb
> quoted Virginia Woolf as saying that "... Few people love the writings of
Sir
> Thomas Browne, but those who do are of the salt of the Earth."

Great favorite of mine, o'course.

That was very fine. Thanks.

> http://www.webdesk.com/quotations/cummings-e-e.html
>
> Mmmmmm ... I would have loved to share a sandwich with e.e. ... just the
other
> day, I was toying with the thought that I am what I write.

Aside from the flames, I hope *I* am. Most of
the rest is rather dreary.

> Ether

-- Bill Cleere


Ether St. Vying

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Sep 14, 2003, 5:22:10 AM9/14/03
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Bill Cleere wrote:

Who wants to conform anyway?

>
> > > Not so surprising, though,
> > > perhaps, considering your gardening talents. Sir Thomas
> > > Browne had the same love of generalizing and of all things
> > > flowering and vegetablish.
> >
> > That's just great. Another historical figure stealing my schtick!
>
> The Garden of Cyrus is online. It has lots of wonderful stuff
> about flora and vegetablalia.

Would you happen to have a URL for that? Google's giving me reviews and
analyses. Sometimes I think it would be cool to live in those olden times ... I
crave the simplicity of those times ... but then I remember what they did for
dentistry and ... well ... I like my computer and the way it connects me to the
global village.

It was refreshing read for me.

> > http://www.webdesk.com/quotations/cummings-e-e.html
> >
> > Mmmmmm ... I would have loved to share a sandwich with e.e. ... just the
> other
> > day, I was toying with the thought that I am what I write.
>
> Aside from the flames, I hope *I* am.

It's no body else but you.

> Most of
> the rest is rather dreary.

As long as it's not bleak.

>
>
> -- Bill Cleere

Ether


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"Ether St. Vying" <i...@it.is> wrote in message
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I do, according to the Flonkers. I'm a member of the
SnuhHiveMind.

Unfortunately, we can't decide if that's a *good* thing.

> >
> > > > Not so surprising, though,
> > > > perhaps, considering your gardening talents. Sir Thomas
> > > > Browne had the same love of generalizing and of all things
> > > > flowering and vegetablish.
> > >
> > > That's just great. Another historical figure stealing my schtick!
> >
> > The Garden of Cyrus is online. It has lots of wonderful stuff
> > about flora and vegetablalia.
>
> Would you happen to have a URL for that? Google's giving me reviews and
> analyses. Sometimes I think it would be cool to live in those olden times
... I
> crave the simplicity of those times ... but then I remember what they did
for
> dentistry and ... well ... I like my computer and the way it connects me
to the
> global village.

It's normally to be found at James Eason's comprehensive site:

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/gardennoframes/gardenn.html

But that appears to be down tonight.

I'll just hafta to do the job myself to keep you in the right mood:

"It were a matter of conjecture upon the Use Net, whether anything
of Philosophy might be found, or if contrarily the habit of Reasoning
from the Specifick to the General had been lost beyond recovering.
Therefore did I resort after Aristotle's manner to put to the Test the
Vexity, and establish Certainty where naught but Vain Assertion and
Contumacity had hitherto ruled. Following a diligent and tiresome
search, I chanced to come to a Region styled by its inhabitants
as alt.pouting.sandwich (a toothsome cognomen), and did encounter
there one going by the name (for it can never be known to a Certainty
upon the Use Net the degree to which the name by which a Being
styles itself doth correspond entirely, in part, or not at all to the
actual Nature of the aforesaid Being,) one Ether St. Vying. This
person I found to be of a genuine Philosophical bent, liable to
extrapolate from the mere particular to the Sublime General, and
to draw conclusions therefrom, which learned Metaphysicians
from Plato to Scaliger have agreed is the Essence of Philosophy."

Yeah. My entire autobiography is on the Usenet in
30,000 or so parts, collectively titled "Necrophiliac Whores
of Gomorrah." (I stole that from Ron Rosenbaum, who
mentioned in an essay that he'd had it in mind for a title
but despaired of ever being able to use it...so I figured
someone might as well get something out of it.)

> > Most of
> > the rest is rather dreary.
>
> As long as it's not bleak.

Well...

I dunno, exactly. Perhaps not.

> >
> > -- Bill Cleere
>
> Ether
>
>


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