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Trasea1
May 3, 2001, 11:52:47 PM5/3/01
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I am sending a quick Hello to all of you. I have been able to read the
posts but not a lot of time to post. There is nothing going on here
anyway. Just wanted to send some ++ thoughts and prayers to those in
their cycles and those who are getting ready to start their cycles,
prayers to those who have gotten AF, and AF vibes to those who are
waiting for her. I think I got it all in there. I have been really super
busy. We are painting our boat, shrimp season begins on May 10th
(hopefully that will mean $$$ :) we are planning on saving alot of money
this time around as long as the boat doesn't need any more major repairs
like last season. Jamie is burnt out already and doesn't want to trawl
anymore. He wants to move to St.Louis. I don't know what I want to do.
My family lives in St. Louis and there are much better docs there. I
just don't know. It has come down to many tears, I love his family and I
know he does. I love mine too, and it was very hard for me to move here
but I am fine as long as I am with him, where ever we live. He has
always been a commercial fisherman and he has always been pampered by
his mother. I don't think he realizes how much he would miss his family.
They are very tight, all of them. I know I would get better care in St.
Louis and I wouldn't have to have a 2 1/2 hour drive to any doc, so that
would be better. I could go back to my old job and my BIL already has a
job lined up for Jamie if we moved there. I just don't want us to get up
there and him say "I want to go home" I am in a real rut. His blood
pressure has always been high but it has sky-rocketed lately. I know it
is the pressure of the upcoming season (it is like this every year) I
tell him that shrimp do not care if the boat is pretty this year or what
color the paint is. I am very worried about him. Sunday he cried and
cried because he is just so nervous. He is still working construction
and supposed to be starting a new house constuction this coming Wed, and
then coming home and working on the boat. I feel he is running himself
ragged and he won't listen to me when I say "Some things can wait, like
painting the boat, let me do it". Shrimp season has never opened this
early (my Birthday is on the 11th and I will be spending it smelling
like fish with old clothes on :) no dancing for me that night. Any
advice for me from you ladies? How do you get your DH's to Relax a
little if they get uptight and nervous like this? I have tried massages,
I have baked him a cake, I have cooked all of his favorite meals (that
he doesn't eat because he is complaining of his stomach hurting from his
nerves) I keep telling him it will all be ok, he just isn't listening.
He is tired of it. I told him to sell the boat if he wants to, it is his
call. He is sleeping right now due to a major headache (probably caused
by his blood pressure), he took some Tylenol PM's and went out like a
light. I am terribly worried about him. What can I do? Please somebody?
I have been basically crying all night, I don't know what to do here.
I am sleepless in Louisiana.
Take Care,
Tracy
P.S. Happy Birthday to all of you Taurus's from another Taurus!!!
May 11
posts but not a lot of time to post. There is nothing going on here
anyway. Just wanted to send some ++ thoughts and prayers to those in
their cycles and those who are getting ready to start their cycles,
prayers to those who have gotten AF, and AF vibes to those who are
waiting for her. I think I got it all in there. I have been really super
busy. We are painting our boat, shrimp season begins on May 10th
(hopefully that will mean $$$ :) we are planning on saving alot of money
this time around as long as the boat doesn't need any more major repairs
like last season. Jamie is burnt out already and doesn't want to trawl
anymore. He wants to move to St.Louis. I don't know what I want to do.
My family lives in St. Louis and there are much better docs there. I
just don't know. It has come down to many tears, I love his family and I
know he does. I love mine too, and it was very hard for me to move here
but I am fine as long as I am with him, where ever we live. He has
always been a commercial fisherman and he has always been pampered by
his mother. I don't think he realizes how much he would miss his family.
They are very tight, all of them. I know I would get better care in St.
Louis and I wouldn't have to have a 2 1/2 hour drive to any doc, so that
would be better. I could go back to my old job and my BIL already has a
job lined up for Jamie if we moved there. I just don't want us to get up
there and him say "I want to go home" I am in a real rut. His blood
pressure has always been high but it has sky-rocketed lately. I know it
is the pressure of the upcoming season (it is like this every year) I
tell him that shrimp do not care if the boat is pretty this year or what
color the paint is. I am very worried about him. Sunday he cried and
cried because he is just so nervous. He is still working construction
and supposed to be starting a new house constuction this coming Wed, and
then coming home and working on the boat. I feel he is running himself
ragged and he won't listen to me when I say "Some things can wait, like
painting the boat, let me do it". Shrimp season has never opened this
early (my Birthday is on the 11th and I will be spending it smelling
like fish with old clothes on :) no dancing for me that night. Any
advice for me from you ladies? How do you get your DH's to Relax a
little if they get uptight and nervous like this? I have tried massages,
I have baked him a cake, I have cooked all of his favorite meals (that
he doesn't eat because he is complaining of his stomach hurting from his
nerves) I keep telling him it will all be ok, he just isn't listening.
He is tired of it. I told him to sell the boat if he wants to, it is his
call. He is sleeping right now due to a major headache (probably caused
by his blood pressure), he took some Tylenol PM's and went out like a
light. I am terribly worried about him. What can I do? Please somebody?
I have been basically crying all night, I don't know what to do here.
I am sleepless in Louisiana.
Take Care,
Tracy
P.S. Happy Birthday to all of you Taurus's from another Taurus!!!
May 11
James Beaver
May 4, 2001, 4:44:08 PM5/4/01
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Tracy,
Hey fellow Taurus, I wish I had some really good advice for you. My DH and
I went through a stressful situation a few years ago that had to do with his
job. It was rough seeing him go through that. All I can say is hang in
there, this will work out one way or another. I'll keep you in my prayers.
Robin
Hey fellow Taurus, I wish I had some really good advice for you. My DH and
I went through a stressful situation a few years ago that had to do with his
job. It was rough seeing him go through that. All I can say is hang in
there, this will work out one way or another. I'll keep you in my prayers.
Robin
Trasea1
May 4, 2001, 5:34:11 PM5/4/01
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Thanks Robin,
I have talked him into stopping the painting early and we are going to go out
tonight dancing for my birthday (a week early :)) he seems to be in better
spirits today. I hope this day off helps him. It is so rough seeing him like
this. Now I know how he feels when I am in the dumps. Poor Guy. It will soon
pass, It has to. Thanks for your prayers it means a lot.
Take Care,
Tracy
I have talked him into stopping the painting early and we are going to go out
tonight dancing for my birthday (a week early :)) he seems to be in better
spirits today. I hope this day off helps him. It is so rough seeing him like
this. Now I know how he feels when I am in the dumps. Poor Guy. It will soon
pass, It has to. Thanks for your prayers it means a lot.
Take Care,
Tracy
Rose
May 4, 2001, 6:17:24 PM5/4/01
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Tracy,
I'm sorry that Jamie is having such a rough go of things. The best, and
only advice I really have is to listen to him as much as possible. Even if
he doesn't tell you so, having someone to turn to and unload his feelings on
helps. It may also help to some extent with his blood pressure (not very
significantly, but a little). Just remind him as often as possible that you
are there to listen if he needs it. Beyond that, I would try to get him to
a doctor to get his blood pressure under control. If he is not on any
medications for it right now, he needs to start. If he is on meds, then he
might have to have the adjusted. That's the only real advice I have, I'm
sorry if it isn't much.
I hope this season is a HUGE success for you and I hope you and Jamie
find a solution to your problems soon. By the way, Happy Birthday - I'll do
a dance for you if you're too tired.
I'm sorry that Jamie is having such a rough go of things. The best, and
only advice I really have is to listen to him as much as possible. Even if
he doesn't tell you so, having someone to turn to and unload his feelings on
helps. It may also help to some extent with his blood pressure (not very
significantly, but a little). Just remind him as often as possible that you
are there to listen if he needs it. Beyond that, I would try to get him to
a doctor to get his blood pressure under control. If he is not on any
medications for it right now, he needs to start. If he is on meds, then he
might have to have the adjusted. That's the only real advice I have, I'm
sorry if it isn't much.
I hope this season is a HUGE success for you and I hope you and Jamie
find a solution to your problems soon. By the way, Happy Birthday - I'll do
a dance for you if you're too tired.
Rosemarie
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Greg and Sarah Estell
May 4, 2001, 6:30:30 PM5/4/01
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Tracy - I'm sorry you and Jaimie are having such a rough time. It sounds
like Jaimie is a lot like my DH - always buried in projects. DH told me
once that he did all these things to keep his mind occupied with things he
could control. That, of course, led to a discussion of IF, but it was a
good talk. I wonder if Jaimie does the same thing?
like Jaimie is a lot like my DH - always buried in projects. DH told me
once that he did all these things to keep his mind occupied with things he
could control. That, of course, led to a discussion of IF, but it was a
good talk. I wonder if Jaimie does the same thing?
I just try to offer to help him. Sometimes he'll let me and if he wants to
be by himself, he'll just say that too.
Anyway - I know that it can be hard both being away from your family, and
living too close. I've done both!
Take care of each other.
Sarah
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AFMal1
May 4, 2001, 10:03:22 PM5/4/01
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Hi, Tracy, where are you in Louisiana? I grew up down there, shrimpin' and
stuff!! :)
stuff!! :)
Mal
Trasea1
May 5, 2001, 3:22:53 AM5/5/01
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We are in Grand Isle, LA... Thursday starts trawl season!!! I'm NOT READY!!!
Tracy
Tracy
Littlegiraffe
May 5, 2001, 3:42:15 AM5/5/01
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Trasea,
Sorry your sweetie is having a rough time (and you too)...I have no advice,
but wanted to say I know how hard it is when the person you love with all
your heart is going through a rough spot. Hang in there, and hold on tight
to each other.
Sorry your sweetie is having a rough time (and you too)...I have no advice,
but wanted to say I know how hard it is when the person you love with all
your heart is going through a rough spot. Hang in there, and hold on tight
to each other.
Lg
Ps. I would really like to go to Louisiana someday...I seem to always be
hearing about the south in a book I am reading and love the way it sounds.
I hope I make it there someday. (and hope it is something like the way it
is described in the books :)
Sophie
May 5, 2001, 9:02:06 AM5/5/01
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((((((Tracy))))))
I hope things will be better soon for you. I'm sorry your DH is so stressed
out. Have you tried taking him out for a meal, or offering him a new CD of
his favourite music to help him relax ?
You said he was resting. Maybe if he gets some sleep, it will help him
relax, and feel a little better.
I'm sending positive thoughts to you by Express mail
Hugs,
Sophie, in Paris
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CarolynRS1
May 7, 2001, 7:01:07 PM5/7/01
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(((Tracy & DH)))
So sorry about the stressful times.
So sorry about the stressful times.
I see a therapist when things get bad for me. It does help de-stress. I also
started taking celexa before the Xmas holidays. It really takes the edge off
and helps regulate the seretonin levels. When someone is overly stressed,
their seretonin levels get out of wack and it can become a viscious cycle. I'm
not advising you to do what I am doing, I just want to let you know what helped
me in helpless times.
It seems like you tried everything else to help him out. I hope thins look up
for you and DH very soon!
Carolyn
Trasea1
May 7, 2001, 11:18:59 PM5/7/01
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Thanks Carolyn.
I am trying to talk him into the herb Valerian Root right now. His brother takes it
to "Relax" in the evening and it really works for him, so I figure if Jamie can
take one in the Morning, maybe he wouldn't be so stressed all day. I did get him
out again today, away from the boat, we rented a movie and also had dinner out. He
seems much better today. I think my MIL and I nagging him is sinking into his hard
head. Thanks for the advice!!!
Take Care,
Tracy
I am trying to talk him into the herb Valerian Root right now. His brother takes it
to "Relax" in the evening and it really works for him, so I figure if Jamie can
take one in the Morning, maybe he wouldn't be so stressed all day. I did get him
out again today, away from the boat, we rented a movie and also had dinner out. He
seems much better today. I think my MIL and I nagging him is sinking into his hard
head. Thanks for the advice!!!
Take Care,
Tracy
Trasea1
May 7, 2001, 11:41:44 PM5/7/01
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Thank you Every One for your reply's. Jamie is still freaking out but not as
bad as he was. I am trying to convince him to take a herb called Valerian
Root. His brother takes it in the evening to make him relax so I am hoping
if he takes one in the morning, he can maybe relax a little bit. I am
begging him to go to the doc first though. I know he needs to be put on some
sort of Blood Pressure Meds. He has been told before that he needs them he
just won't do it. He hates swallowing any sort of pills, except Zantac of
course he lives by them for his Acid Reflux (he had his Larnyx crushed 6
years ago). LONG STORY. I told him that it is a miracle that he even
survived what happened to him and now he is killing himself with worry. I
don't want to lose him to a heart attack or maybe a stroke. Oh, What am I
going to do with him? I just wanted to post and thank all of you for your
reply's, they made me feel better and I am really needing it. Thanks!!!
Take Care,
Tracy
bad as he was. I am trying to convince him to take a herb called Valerian
Root. His brother takes it in the evening to make him relax so I am hoping
if he takes one in the morning, he can maybe relax a little bit. I am
begging him to go to the doc first though. I know he needs to be put on some
sort of Blood Pressure Meds. He has been told before that he needs them he
just won't do it. He hates swallowing any sort of pills, except Zantac of
course he lives by them for his Acid Reflux (he had his Larnyx crushed 6
years ago). LONG STORY. I told him that it is a miracle that he even
survived what happened to him and now he is killing himself with worry. I
don't want to lose him to a heart attack or maybe a stroke. Oh, What am I
going to do with him? I just wanted to post and thank all of you for your
reply's, they made me feel better and I am really needing it. Thanks!!!
Take Care,
Tracy
CarolynRS1
May 8, 2001, 9:49:33 PM5/8/01
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Tracy:
Has Jamie considered acupuncture? It can help with the stress. I'm going
through acupuncture treatment right now for infertility. It's very
interesting. I have seen it make a difference w/ me in some aspects....but, I
have not seen a ++sign....yet!
Has Jamie considered acupuncture? It can help with the stress. I'm going
through acupuncture treatment right now for infertility. It's very
interesting. I have seen it make a difference w/ me in some aspects....but, I
have not seen a ++sign....yet!
carolyn
Rose
May 9, 2001, 12:42:57 AM5/9/01
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If it were me, Tracy, I would use the "if you love me, you'll go to a
doctor" speech. I used it on Greg a few years ago when he was having
trouble with his stomach. I basically told him that If he really loves me
and wants to be able to protect me and support me, then he has to take care
of himself so he can be here with me - and if that means that he has to go
to the doctor or take some pills, then he should just think of each pill as
one more day he gets to spend with me and one step closer to the future he
wants with me. That was enough to convince him to go. Sometimes when we
have a fear of some kind, we don't consciously think of how it affects the
ones we love. He may have never thought about it in that perspective.
Another case in point is Greg's grandparents. His grandfather used to
remind his wife (Greg's grandmother) every morning to take her meds by
saying, "Don't forget to take your pills because I love you." And even
though she hated her pills, she took them because no matter how much she
hated her pills, she loved her husband more. I know it sounds sappy, but
maybe that would help him to understand how important it is to you that he
take good care of himself. If those things don't sway you, I have another
example. I had to take an anti-rejection medication after all of my Corneal
Transplants and this stuff burned like battery acid (I think I would have
preferred to put battery acid in my eye the medication burned so badly), but
as much as I hated that medication I wanted my Cornea to grow healthy so
that I could get some of my vision back so that Greg and my family wouldn't
worry anymore. I did it more for them than for myself.
I really hope that Jamie gets help with his blood pressure soon. I also
hope that things get better for you very soon.
doctor" speech. I used it on Greg a few years ago when he was having
trouble with his stomach. I basically told him that If he really loves me
and wants to be able to protect me and support me, then he has to take care
of himself so he can be here with me - and if that means that he has to go
to the doctor or take some pills, then he should just think of each pill as
one more day he gets to spend with me and one step closer to the future he
wants with me. That was enough to convince him to go. Sometimes when we
have a fear of some kind, we don't consciously think of how it affects the
ones we love. He may have never thought about it in that perspective.
Another case in point is Greg's grandparents. His grandfather used to
remind his wife (Greg's grandmother) every morning to take her meds by
saying, "Don't forget to take your pills because I love you." And even
though she hated her pills, she took them because no matter how much she
hated her pills, she loved her husband more. I know it sounds sappy, but
maybe that would help him to understand how important it is to you that he
take good care of himself. If those things don't sway you, I have another
example. I had to take an anti-rejection medication after all of my Corneal
Transplants and this stuff burned like battery acid (I think I would have
preferred to put battery acid in my eye the medication burned so badly), but
as much as I hated that medication I wanted my Cornea to grow healthy so
that I could get some of my vision back so that Greg and my family wouldn't
worry anymore. I did it more for them than for myself.
I really hope that Jamie gets help with his blood pressure soon. I also
hope that things get better for you very soon.
{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}
Rosemarie
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Trasea1
May 9, 2001, 12:55:58 AM5/9/01
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Thanks Carolyn but I don't think he will go for that. He hates needles. Long Story
made short (maybe ;) in August of 1996, he got jumped on by two men at a local
festival for the "Blessing of the Fleet" (Local priest blesses the shrimp boats
before the August shrimp season starts, for safe trips and passage and stuff)
anyway, two guys (that he even grew up with too!!) started a fight with Jamie's
best friend and Jamie stood up and said "Come on lets all just have fun" they saw
Jamie as a threat (as he is a Big guy) knocked him out with one punch, when he
fell his head landed between two rocks, the two guys jumped on him and one knee
dropped him on the throat and crushed his larnyx and fractured most of his face.
He was in the hospital, had a very long surgery to to fix his larnyx (it is now
Titanium rings) and had plastic surgery on his face. He is not supposed to be
alive right now as they say that the injury that he had and as bad as it was is
usually fatale. He was in the hospital for about a month and they stuck him with
every sort of needle they could find. He had tubes coming from every hole in his
body. I wasn't with him at the time I didn't meet him for another 2 months, until
October of 96.
Now he is scared half to death of going to a doctor of any sort. I am trying to
get him to go for his blood pressure. From what I understand he was like mr.
Hypocondriak <sp?> went to the doc for everything but now? No WAY. He downed the
idea of the herb, but I did get him to agree to hot tea at night just to help him
sleep.
You know? I think there is too much drama in this town for him. Too much
compatition during these shrimp seasons. Not like the olden' days when there were
only a few boats. Now if we don't get a good catch we might now meet expenses and
he is terrified that something is going to break on the boat. I know I am rambling
on and on but I just don't know how I can help him. I really really appreciate the
advise though and I will suggest it. I have been wanting to try it myself so maybe
if we did it as a "couple" he would go for it. I will ask first thing in the
morning. It is worth a try!!! Thanks.
Tracy
made short (maybe ;) in August of 1996, he got jumped on by two men at a local
festival for the "Blessing of the Fleet" (Local priest blesses the shrimp boats
before the August shrimp season starts, for safe trips and passage and stuff)
anyway, two guys (that he even grew up with too!!) started a fight with Jamie's
best friend and Jamie stood up and said "Come on lets all just have fun" they saw
Jamie as a threat (as he is a Big guy) knocked him out with one punch, when he
fell his head landed between two rocks, the two guys jumped on him and one knee
dropped him on the throat and crushed his larnyx and fractured most of his face.
He was in the hospital, had a very long surgery to to fix his larnyx (it is now
Titanium rings) and had plastic surgery on his face. He is not supposed to be
alive right now as they say that the injury that he had and as bad as it was is
usually fatale. He was in the hospital for about a month and they stuck him with
every sort of needle they could find. He had tubes coming from every hole in his
body. I wasn't with him at the time I didn't meet him for another 2 months, until
October of 96.
Now he is scared half to death of going to a doctor of any sort. I am trying to
get him to go for his blood pressure. From what I understand he was like mr.
Hypocondriak <sp?> went to the doc for everything but now? No WAY. He downed the
idea of the herb, but I did get him to agree to hot tea at night just to help him
sleep.
You know? I think there is too much drama in this town for him. Too much
compatition during these shrimp seasons. Not like the olden' days when there were
only a few boats. Now if we don't get a good catch we might now meet expenses and
he is terrified that something is going to break on the boat. I know I am rambling
on and on but I just don't know how I can help him. I really really appreciate the
advise though and I will suggest it. I have been wanting to try it myself so maybe
if we did it as a "couple" he would go for it. I will ask first thing in the
morning. It is worth a try!!! Thanks.
Tracy
Trasea1
May 9, 2001, 1:32:48 AM5/9/01
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You know Rose it is funny you should say that about Greg's grandparents because
Jamie's father says the SAME THING to Jamie's mother!!! Every day he lines them
up, he takes 1 pill a day and she take 15 a day. I am working on Jamie daily. I
don't know if I am doing him any good by always nagging at him. I guess I am
hoping he will humor me just to get me to shut up. I will put it the way you and
Jamie's dad put it "Do it for me" hopefully that will work. He has soooo many
phobia's, we wanted him to do this phobia study at Tulane University about two
hours away, know what his responce was? He says in a straight stare at his mom
and I, "I can't" (when we asked why?) "I'm afraid I will get lost on the way"
(another phobia, getting lost) I just don't know what I am going to do with
him...AARRGH HE MAKES ME CRAZY!!! Every day I have new advice for him, this and
Carolyn's acupuncture will be tomorrow mornings advise!!! Thanks.
Take Care,
Tracy
Jamie's father says the SAME THING to Jamie's mother!!! Every day he lines them
up, he takes 1 pill a day and she take 15 a day. I am working on Jamie daily. I
don't know if I am doing him any good by always nagging at him. I guess I am
hoping he will humor me just to get me to shut up. I will put it the way you and
Jamie's dad put it "Do it for me" hopefully that will work. He has soooo many
phobia's, we wanted him to do this phobia study at Tulane University about two
hours away, know what his responce was? He says in a straight stare at his mom
and I, "I can't" (when we asked why?) "I'm afraid I will get lost on the way"
(another phobia, getting lost) I just don't know what I am going to do with
him...AARRGH HE MAKES ME CRAZY!!! Every day I have new advice for him, this and
Carolyn's acupuncture will be tomorrow mornings advise!!! Thanks.
Take Care,
Tracy
Rose
May 9, 2001, 4:29:58 PM5/9/01
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Tracy,
I hope that he is able to get past the fears he has so that he can take
good care of himself. I hope that he'll take some kind of advice.
I'm thinking of you both.
I hope that he is able to get past the fears he has so that he can take
good care of himself. I hope that he'll take some kind of advice.
I'm thinking of you both.
Rosemarie
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MaybeBaby
May 16, 2001, 8:27:20 AM5/16/01
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Tracy.... this is a little late but wanted to let you know Do NOT let dh take St
John's Wort which also is taken for stress and what not... there was a study
done and St John's can cause fertility problems...
John's Wort which also is taken for stress and what not... there was a study
done and St John's can cause fertility problems...
I hope dh is feeling better... my DH also is what I call a "worry wort", I
handle stress and problems alot better than he does...
Good Luck!
peggie
MaybeBaby
May 16, 2001, 8:30:11 AM5/16/01
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sorry I just posted that and realized that could be seen giving medical advice...
which is not for this board. Sorry :::::::smacking hands::::::::::::::
which is not for this board. Sorry :::::::smacking hands::::::::::::::
peggie
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