45%
gram
Got'a Love it!
wy
> Got'a Love it!
Especially when it's still 16% higher than Bush's average for 2008.
Oath Keeper
Bush is all you liberturds have. Get over it, he is gone. This is
2009, dipshit.
By 2012 Obama should be at about 15% if he continues his slide, maybe
lower......
wy
Boy, I bet you'll be among the first to slash your own wrists when
you're proven wrong, huh? No great loss.
Killing, Inc.
You're right. Once the homeless people the Democrats have bought votes
from for years with a carton of cigarettes won't even vote for your
Muslim In Chief any more, there's still at least 16% of the electorate
who are braindead, lazy, completely dependent, MSNBC watching, low IQ,
drooling, knuckledragging, true beleivers in the quasi-religious cult
known as progressivism, and they would vote for Castro or Stalin if
they were alive and eligible.
Have a nice day.
bvallely
> > Got'a Love it!
.
> Especially when it's still 16% higher than Bush's average for 2008.
During his 10th month in office, Bush enjoyed an 85% approval rating.
Let's see how well Obama is doing in His seventh year in office.
I'm kidding, of course. No way that lox is going to get re-elected.
I'm not even sure that he'll win the nomination.
bvallely
> > Bush is all you liberturds have. Get over it, he is gone. This is
> > 2009, dipshit.
> > By 2012 Obama should be at about 15% if he continues his slide, maybe
> > lower......
.
> Boy, I bet you'll be among the first to slash your own wrists when
> you're proven wrong, huh? No great loss.
I repeat, during Bush's 10th month in office, he had an 85% approval
rating. Obama now has a 45%. Pretty close to half.
Oh, Bama, Hey, Bama.
Bamabama Hoe.
BamaHey, BamaHoe
Bama.
Hey B.0. B.O,
Why's your polls so low?
Bama Hoe, Bama Hey,
One term Star.
boo-radley
> Got'a Love it!
Let us know when it gets near Dubya's 20 exit
GOP the Stupid
"bvallely" <bval...@aol.com> wrote in message
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.
> > Bush is all you liberturds have. Get over it, he is gone. This is
> > 2009, dipshit.
> > By 2012 Obama should be at about 15% if he continues his slide, maybe
> > lower......
.
> Boy, I bet you'll be among the first to slash your own wrists when
> you're proven wrong, huh? No great loss.
.
I repeat, during Bush's 10th month in office, he had an 85% approval
rating. Obama now has a 45%. Pretty close to half.
Bush never had 85%. Clinton did the day he retired.
GOP the Stupid
.
> > Got'a Love it!
.
> Especially when it's still 16% higher than Bush's average for 2008.
.
During his 10th month in office, Bush enjoyed an 85% approval rating.
Nothing but bullshit lies.
GOP the Stupid
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Let us know when it gets near Dubya's 20 exit
============
Grifters, illiterates, sex perverts, truth distorters and religious nuts -
that's all the
right has.
Sounds like National Socialism, 1933. Sieg Heil!
DamOTclese
> Got'a Love it!
45... You love your Christian IQ? Amazing.
---
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Does belief in astrology cause insanity? http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm
wy
> .> > Got'a Love it!
> .
> > Especially when it's still 16% higher than Bush's average for 2008.
>
> .
> During his 10th month in office, Bush enjoyed an 85% approval rating.
> Let's see how well Obama is doing in His seventh year in office.
I guess you forgot that you could thank Bin Laden and his nice piece
of work on 9/11 for Bush's rating. A dead cockroach as president
could've gotten that high a rating at the time. We'll wait and see if
Obama gets lucky too should Bin Laden ever rear his ugly head again.
> I'm kidding, of course. No way that lox is going to get re-elected.
> I'm not even sure that he'll win the nomination.
Three years is still a long ways to go and a lot can happen till then
- even the end of the world in 2012. So there are no certainties of
anything at this point.
bvallely
> On Nov 25, 5:23 am, bvallely <bvall...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > .> > Got'a Love it!
> > .
> > > Especially when it's still 16% higher than Bush's average for 2008.
>
> > .
> > During his 10th month in office, Bush enjoyed an 85% approval rating.
> > Let's see how well Obama is doing in His seventh year in office.
.
> I guess you forgot that you could thank Bin Laden and his nice piece
> of work on 9/11 for Bush's rating. >
.
cockroach who planned the bombings could be have full access to the
media to attack America during the trial. There is not a single
reason in the world to risk the lives of millions of New Yorkers.
.
> A dead cockroach as president could've gotten that high a rating at the time. >
Clinton was president when the World Trade Center was bombed the first
time. He viewed the entire event as a photo op. After the OK City
Bombing, Clinton tried to use it as an excuse to attack Rush
Limbaugh. George W. Bush used the event to pull Americans together.
> We'll wait and see if Obama gets lucky too should Bin Laden ever rear his ugly head again.>
.
Obama would probably let bin Laden go. he's certainly doing
everything possible to let the 9/11 planners go.
.
> > I'm kidding, of course. No way that lox is going to get re-elected.
> > I'm not even sure that he'll win the nomination.
.
> Three years is still a long ways to go and a lot can happen till then
> - even the end of the world in 2012. So there are no certainties of
> anything at this point.
.
Maybe not - but I'm hard pressed in imagine a scenario that Obama
wouldn't fuck up.
Did you know that, as of this writing, if the election were tomorrow,
Obama and Sarah Palin would be in a dead heat?
wy
> On Nov 26, 8:34 am,wy<w...@myself.com> wrote:> On Nov 25, 5:23 am, bvallely <bvall...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > .> > Got'a Love it!
> > > .
> > > > Especially when it's still 16% higher than Bush's average for 2008.
>
> > > .
> > > During his 10th month in office, Bush enjoyed an 85% approval rating.
> > > Let's see how well Obama is doing in His seventh year in office.
> .
> > I guess you forgot that you could thank Bin Laden and his nice piece
> > of work on 9/11 for Bush's rating. >
>
> .
> I guess you forgot that Obama has just budgeted $75,000,000.00 so the
> cockroach who planned the bombings could be have full access to the
> media to attack America during the trial. There is not a single
> reason in the world to risk the lives of millions of New Yorkers.
There wasn't a single reason in the world to risk the lives of
American troops in the Middle East, yet Bush did just that and more of
them ended up dead than those who died on 9/11. And for what? Still
didn't get Bin Laden, who Bush just gave up on six months after 9/11.
Incidentally, I do have my doubts about the wisdom of holding the
trials in New York because I think they could've gotten an easier
conviction and with a lot less flash if it was held in Topeka, Kansas,
instead, not to mention it probably would've cost a lot less money on
security. After all, who would want to destroy Topeka, Kansas? It
wouldn't make for great headlines from the terrorists' p.o.v..
> .> A dead cockroach as president could've gotten that high a rating at the time. >
>
> Clinton was president when the World Trade Center was bombed the first
> time. He viewed the entire event as a photo op. After the OK City
> Bombing, Clinton tried to use it as an excuse to attack Rush
> Limbaugh. George W. Bush used the event to pull Americans together.
Yeah, we can clearly see how well he did that:
http://www.lies.com/images/bush_approval.gif
Notice how with every spectacular event his approval peaks, then right
afterwards it just plummets. No sustainability. And it doesn't peak
for things that matter, like housing, health care, education, social
stuff that concerns everybody personally on a daily basis, it only
peaks when he's goes to war. What does that say about Americans,
period?
> > We'll wait and see if Obama gets lucky too should Bin Laden ever rear his ugly head again.>
>
> .
> Obama would probably let bin Laden go. he's certainly doing
> everything possible to let the 9/11 planners go.
Oh, yo jus' bein' so silly, boy. Take that bad weed outta yo mouth yo
smokin'.
> .> > I'm kidding, of course. No way that lox is going to get re-elected.
> > > I'm not even sure that he'll win the nomination.
> .
> > Three years is still a long ways to go and a lot can happen till then
> > - even the end of the world in 2012. So there are no certainties of
> > anything at this point.
>
> .
> Maybe not - but I'm hard pressed in imagine a scenario that Obama
> wouldn't fuck up.
Well, he still hasn't screwed up anything yet. Seriously. Think
about it.
> Did you know that, as of this writing, if the election were tomorrow,
> Obama and Sarah Palin would be in a dead heat?
Meaningless fantasy. Snap out of it and try to live in the real world.
bvallely
> > > > During his 10th month in office, Bush enjoyed an 85% approval rating.
> > > > Let's see how well Obama is doing in His seventh year in office.
.
> > > I guess you forgot that you could thank Bin Laden and his nice piece
> > > of work on 9/11 for Bush's rating. >
.
> > I guess you forgot that Obama has just budgeted $75,000,000.00 so the
> > cockroach who planned the bombings could be have full access to the
> > media to attack America during the trial. There is not a single
> > reason in the world to risk the lives of millions of New Yorkers.
.
> There wasn't a single reason in the world to risk the lives of
> American troops in the Middle East, >
Of course there was. Terrorists in the middle East were killing
Americans on American soil.
.
>....yet Bush did just that and more of them ended up dead than those who died on 9/11. And for what? >
.
America hasn't had an Islamic attack on American soil since, er, about
a year into the Obama reign of terror.
.
> Still didn't get Bin Laden, who Bush just gave up on six months after 9/11.
Yeah, about that. Why hasn't Obama caught him yet?
.
> Incidentally, I do have my doubts about the wisdom of holding the
> trials in New York because I think they could've gotten an easier
> conviction and with a lot less flash if it was held in Topeka, Kansas,
> instead, not to mention it probably would've cost a lot less money on
> security.>
Or we could have had the trials in Gitmo and denied these cockroaches
a platform to attack America, while keeping Americans safe. There is
not a single reason to hold the trials in America. Not one.
.
> After all, who would want to destroy Topeka, Kansas? It
> wouldn't make for great headlines from the terrorists' p.o.v..
.
.
> > .> A dead cockroach as president could've gotten that high a rating at the time. >
>
> > Clinton was president when the World Trade Center was bombed the first
> > time. He viewed the entire event as a photo op. After the OK City
> > Bombing, Clinton tried to use it as an excuse to attack Rush
> > Limbaugh. George W. Bush used the event to pull Americans together.
.
> Yeah, we can clearly see how well he did that:
> http://www.lies.com/images/bush_approval.gif
.
It didn't last, of course - but for a time, America was united. I
don't remember Bush using the bombing as an excuse to attack his
critics, as Clinton did.
.
> > > We'll wait and see if Obama gets lucky too should Bin Laden ever rear his ugly head again.>
.
that catching Obama would be the simplest thing on Earth - "how hard
can it be to find the tallest man in Afghanistan" Hilary Clinton
asked.
.
> > Obama would probably let bin Laden go. he's certainly doing
> > everything possible to let the 9/11 planners go.
.
> Oh, yo jus' bein' so silly, boy.>
I wish I were. As it stands now, Obama will have to be read his
Miranda rights - literally. With all the protections the ACLU have
given the terrorists, and the competence of the Holder Justice
Department, I'm not at all confident that they'd be able to get a
conviction.
.
> > .> > I'm kidding, of course. No way that lox is going to get re-elected.
> > > > I'm not even sure that he'll win the nomination.
.
> > > Three years is still a long ways to go and a lot can happen till then
> > > - even the end of the world in 2012. So there are no certainties of
> > > anything at this point.
.
> > Maybe not - but I'm hard pressed in imagine a scenario that Obama
> > wouldn't fuck up.
.
> Well, he still hasn't screwed up anything yet. Seriously. Think
> about it.
.
Let's see -
Cash For Clunkers
The Stimulus Bill, instead of creating 3.5 million jobs, destroyed 3.4
million.
Kevin Jennings.
Anthony Van Jones
War On FOX News - which forced the rest of the media to come to FOX's
defense.
War on Beck, which doubled his ratings.
War on Limbaugh, which increased his numbers 50%
ACORN
North Korea launching missile tests the day after Obama warned them
not to.
Iran launching missil tests the day after Obama warned them not to.
Insulting the British MP.
Insulting the Queen of England.
Reversing the conviction of Black Panthers who threatened old white
people when they tried to vote.
Spending more money last month than the Bush and the Republicans did
in all of 2007.
Ridiculing the Special Olympics.
That's just off the top of my head - if you like, I could find much
more.
> > Did you know that, as of this writing, if the election were tomorrow,
> > Obama and Sarah Palin would be in a dead heat?
.
> Meaningless fantasy. Snap out of it and try to live in the real world.
.
Sorry, that's what Rasmussen reported yesterday. Oh, and of this
writing, Americans favor Repubicans by a seven point margin. Quite a
difference from last year when they favored the Democrats by an equal
number.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot
Any other softballs that you'd like knocked out of the park?
Major Debacle
> On Nov 24, 8:10 pm, wy <w...@myself.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 25, 12:04 am, gram <gramnom...@nomail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Got'a Love it!
>> Especially when it's still 16% higher than Bush's average for 2008.
>
> Bush is all you liberturds have. Get over it, he is gone. This is
> 2009, dipshit.
Sorry, goober
Everything that happened under Bush is Clinton's fault.
Everything that happens under Obama is Bush's fault.
Get fucking used to it.
> By 2012 Obama should be at about 15% if he continues his slide, maybe
> lower......
--
When asked, years afterward, why his charge at Gettysburg failed,
General Pickett said: "I've always thought the Yankees had something to
do with it."
Major Debacle
> .
>>> Got'a Love it!
> .
>> Especially when it's still 16% higher than Bush's average for 2008.
> .
> During his 10th month in office, Bush enjoyed an 85% approval rating.
It's all about what he went out with, Trudy. What was that?
20 some odd percent?
Major Debacle
> On Nov 26, 8:34 am, wy <w...@myself.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 25, 5:23 am, bvallely <bvall...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> .> > Got'a Love it!
>>> .
>>>> Especially when it's still 16% higher than Bush's average for 2008.
>>> .
>>> During his 10th month in office, Bush enjoyed an 85% approval rating.
>>> Let's see how well Obama is doing in His seventh year in office.
> .
>> I guess you forgot that you could thank Bin Laden and his nice piece
>> of work on 9/11 for Bush's rating. >
> .
> I guess you forgot that Obama has just budgeted $75,000,000.00 so the
> cockroach who planned the bombings could be have full access to the
> media to attack America during the trial. There is not a single
> reason in the world to risk the lives of millions of New Yorkers.
Oh, now yer crying fer New Yorkers... remember, cupcake... New Yorkers
voted fer Obama.
Without New Yorkers McCain might be president.
Major Debacle
> .
>>>>> During his 10th month in office, Bush enjoyed an 85% approval rating.
>>>>> Let's see how well Obama is doing in His seventh year in office.
> .
>>>> I guess you forgot that you could thank Bin Laden and his nice piece
>>>> of work on 9/11 for Bush's rating. >
> .
>>> I guess you forgot that Obama has just budgeted $75,000,000.00 so the
>>> cockroach who planned the bombings could be have full access to the
>>> media to attack America during the trial. There is not a single
>>> reason in the world to risk the lives of millions of New Yorkers.
> .
>> There wasn't a single reason in the world to risk the lives of
>> American troops in the Middle East, >
> .
> Of course there was. Terrorists in the middle East were killing
> Americans on American soil.
Nope... terrorists in Afghanistan were doing that.
You wingnuts need to brush up on yer geography.
But then again... all ragheads look alike to you, don't they?
wy
> .> > > > During his 10th month in office, Bush enjoyed an 85% approval rating.
> > > > > Let's see how well Obama is doing in His seventh year in office.
> .
> > > > I guess you forgot that you could thank Bin Laden and his nice piece
> > > > of work on 9/11 for Bush's rating. >
> .
> > > I guess you forgot that Obama has just budgeted $75,000,000.00 so the
> > > cockroach who planned the bombings could be have full access to the
> > > media to attack America during the trial. There is not a single
> > > reason in the world to risk the lives of millions of New Yorkers.
> .
> > There wasn't a single reason in the world to risk the lives of
> > American troops in the Middle East, >
>
> .
> Of course there was. Terrorists in the middle East were killing
> Americans on American soil.
There are terrorists in the U.S., Americans killing other Americans on
U.S. soil. Why not use the military to storm into any town with
tanks, planes and bombs everytime there's another round of shootings
at a church, school or post office? If you don't even do it on home
turf, why do it elsewhere?
> .>....yet Bush did just that and more of them ended up dead than those who died on 9/11. And for what? >
>
> America hasn't had an Islamic attack on American soil since, er, about
> a year into the Obama reign of terror.
Meanwhile, about 45,000-50,000 will have died from firearms before the
year will be over. Americans killing Americans - apple pie
terrorism. Puts them Muslims to utter shame. Your real point is?
> .> Still didn't get Bin Laden, who Bush just gave up on six months after 9/11.
>
> Yeah, about that. Why hasn't Obama caught him yet?
Let's see, 10 months on the job compared to 8 years that Bush had?
Give Obama another 7 years and 2 months, will ya? Then we'll talk.
> .> Incidentally, I do have my doubts about the wisdom of holding the
> > trials in New York because I think they could've gotten an easier
> > conviction and with a lot less flash if it was held in Topeka, Kansas,
> > instead, not to mention it probably would've cost a lot less money on
> > security.>
>
> .
> Or we could have had the trials in Gitmo and denied these cockroaches
> a platform to attack America, while keeping Americans safe. There is
> not a single reason to hold the trials in America. Not one.
Justice. That's the American way - no? Innocent till proven guilty.
Can you rightly say which of them are innocent and which are guilty
besides having been coached into believing one way or the other by
what the government and media has fed you? I don't know who's
guilty. I don't know the facts and even if what the government and
media tell me are really facts. The guy who planned 9/11 was water-
boarded 183 times before "confessing". Hell, I'd probably confess to
anything after 18 or even 8 times of waterboarding. Think about
that. How many people can truly withstand being waterboarded for 183
times, and why would they subject themselves to it for that long -
unless possibly, if remotely so, the guy didn't want to admit to a
crime he didn't commit? These terrorists know they're going to die
anyway, that's what it's all about for them, they do it for glory and
Allah and all the virgins they'll end up with in heaven, so why not
just admit it before the first waterboarding and go in that blaze of
glory? Unless they're innocent. Possibly? Remotely? That's what
justice is there for. And if it's not there for them, it's not there
for you either.
> .> After all, who would want to destroy Topeka, Kansas? It
> > wouldn't make for great headlines from the terrorists' p.o.v..
>
> Are you on crack?
Well, you certainly must be if you think Topeka, Kansas, could be a
target worth the time, money and energy for Middle Eastern terrorists
to go after.
> .> > .> A dead cockroach as president could've gotten that high a rating at the time. >
>
> > > Clinton was president when the World Trade Center was bombed the first
> > > time. He viewed the entire event as a photo op. After the OK City
> > > Bombing, Clinton tried to use it as an excuse to attack Rush
> > > Limbaugh. George W. Bush used the event to pull Americans together.
> .
> > Yeah, we can clearly see how well he did that:
> .
> >http://www.lies.com/images/bush_approval.gif
>
> .
> It didn't last, of course - but for a time, America was united. I
> don't remember Bush using the bombing as an excuse to attack his
> critics, as Clinton did.
What bombing?
> .> > > We'll wait and see if Obama gets lucky too should Bin Laden ever rear his ugly head again.>
>
> .
> What do you mean, "lucky"? For years, I've been assured by the left
> that catching Obama would be the simplest thing on Earth - "how hard
> can it be to find the tallest man in Afghanistan" Hilary Clinton
> asked.
For years you were assured by Bush that he'd get him dead or alive.
So much for the wild, wild west mentality.
> .> > Obama would probably let bin Laden go. he's certainly doing
> > > everything possible to let the 9/11 planners go.
> .
> > Oh, yo jus' bein' so silly, boy.>
>
> I wish I were. As it stands now, Obama will have to be read his
> Miranda rights - literally. With all the protections the ACLU have
> given the terrorists, and the competence of the Holder Justice
> Department, I'm not at all confident that they'd be able to get a
> conviction.
Well, when everybody from the Attorney General down is saying that
they'll be found guilty, you can bet your bottom dollar the defense
teams are going to do their utmost to prove them wrong, because to
even put that conviction out before there is a conviction goes against
the principles of seeking justice. If they're found guilty on
indisputable and irrefutable evidence, so be it; but if there's enough
or too many shadows of doubt to convict them that they have to be
released, then so be it too - that's justice, love it or hate it.
Personally, I really do think Bush and Cheney were behind 9/11 - the
way Bush reacted when he heard the first news of it while sitting in
that elementary class listening to some kids story spoke volumes about
his possible guilt. How? Because body language dictates that if
you're president and you hear something like that, you don't just keep
sitting there with a stupid look on your face for another 5 minutes,
you cut and run and deal with the situation pronto, especially when
his advisor Andy Carter told him that "the country was under attack" -
not the twin towers. The fact that he lingered on can only indicate
that the news he got confirmed that the 9/11 plan succeeded - he knew
the country wasn't attacked, that's why he didn't budge, it wasn't
that urgent. Look at his face again. Study it. What you see is
someone who's visualizing in his mind the fruition of a master plan
the adminsitration had concocted which, with an evident smidgen of a
tinge of regret in his look, unfortunately caused thousands of
"necessary" American deaths for that greater goal. Let's roll the
film, boys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60&feature=related
> > > .> > I'm kidding, of course. No way that lox is going to get re-elected.
> > > > > I'm not even sure that he'll win the nomination.
> .
> > > > Three years is still a long ways to go and a lot can happen till then
> > > > - even the end of the world in 2012. So there are no certainties of
> > > > anything at this point.
> .
> > > Maybe not - but I'm hard pressed in imagine a scenario that Obama
> > > wouldn't fuck up.
> .
> > Well, he still hasn't screwed up anything yet. Seriously. Think
> > about it.
>
> .
> Let's see -
>
> Cash For Clunkers
Where's the failure? The car companies are still standing. GM is
even expanding.
> The Stimulus Bill, instead of creating 3.5 million jobs, destroyed 3.4
> million.
Well, seeing that neither you nor I know much about how those things
work and what kind of jobs were created or destroyed, the jury is
still out as to what successes or failures it's achieved at this
point.
> Kevin Jennings.
> Anthony Van Jones
Dick Cheney
Karl Rove
> War On FOX News - which forced the rest of the media to come to FOX's
There's your real threat to America - FOX News. Not the Middle East.
Destruction comes from within.
> defense.
> War on Beck, which doubled his ratings.
> War on Limbaugh, which increased his numbers 50%
> ACORN
> North Korea launching missile tests the day after Obama warned them
> not to.
> Iran launching missil tests the day after Obama warned them not to.
> Insulting the British MP.
> Insulting the Queen of England.
> Reversing the conviction of Black Panthers who threatened old white
> people when they tried to vote.
> Spending more money last month than the Bush and the Republicans did
> in all of 2007.
> Ridiculing the Special Olympics.
All this other stuff is unimportant minutiae that has no bearing or
effect on your daily life whatsoever.
> That's just off the top of my head - if you like, I could find much
> more.
Well, with half your brain gone off the top of your head, try not to
dig deeper - you might lose the other half off the top of your head.
>
> > > Did you know that, as of this writing, if the election were tomorrow,
> > > Obama and Sarah Palin would be in a dead heat?
> .
> > Meaningless fantasy. Snap out of it and try to live in the real world.
>
> .
> Sorry, that's what Rasmussen reported yesterday. Oh, and of this
> writing, Americans favor Repubicans by a seven point margin. Quite a
> difference from last year when they favored the Democrats by an equal
> number.
Last year was last year, this year is this year, next year will be
next year. It's all passing fads. What it is at any point in time in
the present is fleeting and meaningless. It's what it will be three
years from now that'll be the real thing.
>
> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_ameri...
>
> Any other softballs that you'd like knocked out of the park?
Considering that the park you're playing in is a very small one, you
only fool yourself into thinking that you're really knocking anything
out at all.
bvallely
> > Of course there was. Terrorists in the middle East were killing
> > Americans on American soil.
.
> There are terrorists in the U.S., Americans killing other Americans on
> U.S. soil. Why not use the military to storm into any town with
> tanks, planes and bombs everytime there's another round of shootings
> at a church, school or post office? If you don't even do it on home
> turf, why do it elsewhere?
.
next time the terrorists blow up a major American building.
.
> > .>....yet Bush did just that and more of them ended up dead than those who died on 9/11. And for what? >
> > America hasn't had an Islamic attack on American soil since, er, about
> > a year into the Obama reign of terror.
.
> Meanwhile, about 45,000-50,000 will have died from firearms before the
> year will be over. Americans killing Americans - apple pie
> terrorism. Puts them Muslims to utter shame. Your real point is?
.
America hasn't had an Islamic attack on American soil since, er, about
answer to that statement, so you're reduced to sputtering 1980s
talking points.
.
> > .> Still didn't get Bin Laden, who Bush just gave up on six months after 9/11.
.
> > Yeah, about that. Why hasn't Obama caught him yet?
> Let's see, 10 months on the job compared to 8 years that Bush had?>
You're the guys who spent years insisting that catching Obama is a
snap. After all, as the Secretary of State said, "how hard can it be
to find the tallest man in Afghanistan?" So, where is he?
.
> Give Obama another 7 years and 2 months, will ya? Then we'll talk.
.
None.
.
> > .> Incidentally, I do have my doubts about the wisdom of holding the
> > > trials in New York because I think they could've gotten an easier
> > > conviction and with a lot less flash if it was held in Topeka, Kansas,
> > > instead, not to mention it probably would've cost a lot less money on
> > > security.>
.
> > Or we could have had the trials in Gitmo and denied these cockroaches
> > a platform to attack America, while keeping Americans safe. There is
> > not a single reason to hold the trials in America. Not one.
.
> Justice. That's the American way - no?>
For spies? Hell, no. Throughout American history, captured spies
were beaten for information, then slapped against the wall and shot.
That's how it works in pretty much ever other country in the world.
.
> Innocent till proven guilty.>
.
They would have had a perfectly fair trial in Gitmo. Remember? The
Military Commissions Act of 2006? Obama fought for that bill? In it,
he promised that this bill would make trails on US soil unnecessary?
No?
Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqGQJ8HDNiE
.
> Can you rightly say which of them are innocent and which are guilty
> besides having been coached into believing one way or the other by
> what the government and media has fed you?>
.
Here's a video of one of your dear little innocent lambs. I dare you
to watch this entire video. But you won't - you pussy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtfZLajAfQ0
.
(defense of confessed murders snipped.)
.
> > .> After all, who would want to destroy Topeka, Kansas? It
> > > wouldn't make for great headlines from the terrorists' p.o.v..
.
> > Are you on crack?
.
> Well, you certainly must be if you think Topeka, Kansas, could be a
> target worth the time, money and energy for Middle Eastern terrorists
> to go after.
.
Fort Hood.
.
> > .> > .> A dead cockroach as president could've gotten that high a rating at the time. >
.
> > > > Clinton was president when the World Trade Center was bombed the first
> > > > time. He viewed the entire event as a photo op. After the OK City
> > > > Bombing, Clinton tried to use it as an excuse to attack Rush
> > > > Limbaugh. George W. Bush used the event to pull Americans together.
.
> > > Yeah, we can clearly see how well he did that:
.
> > >http://www.lies.com/images/bush_approval.gif
.
> > It didn't last, of course - but for a time, America was united. I
> > don't remember Bush using the bombing as an excuse to attack his
> > critics, as Clinton did.
.
> What bombing?
.
The World Trade Center Bombing. You DO know that that happened during
the Clinton Administration, don't you? Seven people died.
.
> > .> > > We'll wait and see if Obama gets lucky too should Bin Laden ever rear his ugly head again.>
.
> > What do you mean, "lucky"? For years, I've been assured by the left
> > that catching Obama would be the simplest thing on Earth - "how hard
> > can it be to find the tallest man in Afghanistan" Hilary Clinton
> > asked.
.
> For years you were assured by Bush that he'd get him dead or alive.
> So much for the wild, wild west mentality.
.
And for years, I was assured that catching Obama would be a snap -
after all "how hard can it be to find the tallest man in
Afghanistan?" So, where is he?
.
> > .> > Obama would probably let bin Laden go. he's certainly doing
> > > > everything possible to let the 9/11 planners go.
.
> > > Oh, yo jus' bein' so silly, boy.>
.
> > I wish I were. As it stands now, Obama will have to be read his
> > Miranda rights - literally. With all the protections the ACLU have
> > given the terrorists, and the competence of the Holder Justice
> > Department, I'm not at all confident that they'd be able to get a
> > conviction.
.
> Well, when everybody from the Attorney General down is saying that
> they'll be found guilty, you can bet your bottom dollar the defense
> teams are going to do their utmost to prove them wrong, because to
> even put that conviction out before there is a conviction goes against
> the principles of seeking justice.
.
Yes, Eric Holder is doing everything he can to screw up the trial. He
wants the terrorists to walk.
.
> If they're found guilty on
> indisputable and irrefutable evidence, so be it; but if there's enough
> or too many shadows of doubt to convict them that they have to be
> released, then so be it too - that's justice, love it or hate it.>
.
No, that's not justice. That's perverting justice to advance Obama's
petty political games.
> Personally, I really do think Bush and Cheney were behind 9/11
.
Bithering lunacy deleted. But you think the Birthers are nuts, huh?
.
> > > > .> > I'm kidding, of course. No way that lox is going to get re-elected.
> > > > > > I'm not even sure that he'll win the nomination.
.
> > > > > Three years is still a long ways to go and a lot can happen till then
> > > > > - even the end of the world in 2012. So there are no certainties of
> > > > > anything at this point.
.
> > > > Maybe not - but I'm hard pressed in imagine a scenario that Obama
> > > > wouldn't fuck up.
.
> > > Well, he still hasn't screwed up anything yet. Seriously. Think
> > > about it.
.
> > Let's see -
.
> > Cash For Clunkers
.
> Where's the failure? The car companies are still standing.
.
So, in your mind, anything better than the complete destruction of all
US Auto Industry is a success? My, what high standards you hold Obama
to.
.
.
> > The Stimulus Bill, instead of creating 3.5 million jobs, destroyed 3.4
> > million.
.
> Well, seeing that neither you nor I know much about how those things
> work and what kind of jobs were created or destroyed, the jury is
> still out as to what successes or failures it's achieved at this
> point.
.
No, it's not.
> > Kevin Jennings.
.
(Crickets)
.
> > Anthony Van Jones
.
(Crickets)
.
> Dick Cheney
> Karl Rove
.
Er, huh, Bush. Bush. Grrrrrrrrrr. How I hate Bush. Let's forget
Obama - I hate Bush.
.
> > War On FOX News - which forced the rest of the media to come to FOX's
.
> There's your real threat to America - FOX News. Not the Middle East.
> Destruction comes from within.
.
You're quite correct that destruction comes from within. But the
destruction comes when the government suppresses dissenting views -
that's called "fascism" and people like you are called "fascists".
.
> > defense.
> > War on Beck, which doubled his ratings.
.
(Crickets)
.
> > War on Limbaugh, which increased his numbers 50%
.
(Crickets)
.
> > ACORN
.
(Crickets)
.
> > North Korea launching missile tests the day after Obama warned them
.
(Crickets)
.
> > not to.
> > Iran launching missile tests the day after Obama warned them not to.
.
(Crickets)
.
> > Insulting the British MP.
.
(Crickets)
.
> > Insulting the Queen of England.
.
(Crickets)
.
> > Reversing the conviction of Black Panthers who threatened old white
> > people when they tried to vote.
.
(Crickets)
.
> > Spending more money last month than the Bush and the Republicans did
> > in all of 2007.
.
(Crickets)
.
> > Ridiculing the Special Olympics.
.
(Crickets)
.
>>
.
>> Putting American prestege on the line needlessly to get the Olympus, AND THEN NOT GETTING THE OLYMPICS
..
> All this other stuff is unimportant minutiae that has no bearing or
> effect on your daily life whatsoever.
.
A ruined economy, massive unemployment, and doubling the National debt
doesn't effect my life?
.
> > > > Did you know that, as of this writing, if the election were tomorrow,
> > > > Obama and Sarah Palin would be in a dead heat?
.
> > > Meaningless fantasy. Snap out of it and try to live in the real world.
.
> > Sorry, that's what Rasmussen reported yesterday. Oh, and of this
> > writing, Americans favor Repubicans by a seven point margin. Quite a
> > difference from last year when they favored the Democrats by an equal
> > number.
.
> Last year was last year, this year is this year, next year will be
> next year. It's all passing fads.
.
No, it's not a "fad". Real lives are being put at risk because of
Obama's fecklessness. There will be massive tax hikes and inflation
to pay for his squandering of American treasure.
This isn't a joke.
365 Electoral Vote LANDSLIDE for Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Bithering lunacy deleted. But you think the Birthers are nuts, huh?
No, we do not "think" you birther lunatics are nuts. It's an
indisputable FACT!
---
Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate is REAL!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB1opCUt4zk
"Crazy Eileen" waves around its birth certificate "issued by the
United States of America."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILmqq_4QyhI
"Lizzie the Lezzie" supports the birthers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOkl3FZDCvs
Birthers Continue Idiotic Attacks Against Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVaRdEMlpqk
Birthers' Kenyan birth certificate is an amateurish forgery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo1XKf0a1po
Queen of the birthers Soviet Socialist Republican Orly Taitz can't get
its facts straight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwZx-LRYXUU
Queen of the birthers Soviet Socialist Republican Orly Taitz isn't
even an American itself. It
was born in what was then referred to as the United Soviet Socialist
Republic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1rYWejLcn4
Queen of the birthers Soviet Socialist Republican Orly Taitz gets
schooled in grade school civics by Judge Clay Land.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMJs1FtPnvU
Queen of the birthers Soviet Socialist Republican Orly Taitz called
"reprehensible and unprofessional" by its own "client."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxbX5pF2FqI
Queen of the birthers Soviet Socialist Republican Orly Taitz in its
own words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_7k1FDBMBE&feature=related
Queen of the birthers Soviet Socialist Republican Orly Taitz gets
penalized $20,000.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3xZOpcQY8A
Queen of the birthers Soviet Socialist Republican Orly Taitz gets its
lying little commie ass bitch slapped in court AGAIN!
http://washingtonindependent.com/65703/orly-taitz-smacked-down-birther-lawsuit-dismissed
Queen of the birthers Soviet Socialist Republican Orly Taitz caught in
affair with fellow birther lunatic Charles Lincoln
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpL6ABEveM
Gerald Newton (gne...@acalaska.net) "born in Kenya."
http://kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com/584b73a4ac0b7fbf5fbc1e86189d1861.jpg
Where to find princess of the birthers Soviet Socialist Republican
Gerald Newton.
http://www.google.com/search?q=gerald+newton+alaska&hl=en&pb=r&ei=RFTjSvaPKJCwlAfMo9SKBw&sa=X&oi=rwp&ct=title&ved=0CA8Q_wI
You KKKrooKKKed lying repugnigoons need to practice birther control.
wy
> > > Americans on American soil.
> .
> > There are terrorists in the U.S., Americans killing other Americans on
> > U.S. soil. Why not use the military to storm into any town with
> > tanks, planes and bombs everytime there's another round of shootings
> > at a church, school or post office? If you don't even do it on home
> > turf, why do it elsewhere?
>
> next time the terrorists blow up a major American building.
Can't answer the question, huh?
> .> > .>....yet Bush did just that and more of them ended up dead than those who died on 9/11. And for what? >
> .
> > > America hasn't had an Islamic attack on American soil since, er, about
> > > a year into the Obama reign of terror.
> .
> > Meanwhile, about 45,000-50,000 will have died from firearms before the
> > year will be over. Americans killing Americans - apple pie
> > terrorism. Puts them Muslims to utter shame. Your real point is?
>
> .
> America hasn't had an Islamic attack on American soil since, er, about
> a year into the Obama reign of terror. Clearly, you have no real
> answer to that statement, so you're reduced to sputtering 1980s
> talking points.
Hey, goofball, it's not about Islamic attacks, it's about any kind of
attacks. Terrorism is as simple as the guy next door beating up on
his wife and kids. There is no distinction: the common denominator is
that as long as one or more Americans is a target or victim, then he
or she is being terrorized, regardless if it's by a team of Muslims
from another country or a good old-fashioned white-boy lynch mob right
on U.S. soil. There's no distinction - the simple, common goal is to
terrorize.
> .> > .> Still didn't get Bin Laden, who Bush just gave up on six months after 9/11.
> .
> > > Yeah, about that. Why hasn't Obama caught him yet?
> .
> > Let's see, 10 months on the job compared to 8 years that Bush had?>
>
> .
> You're the guys who spent years insisting that catching Obama is a
> snap. After all, as the Secretary of State said, "how hard can it be
> to find the tallest man in Afghanistan?" So, where is he?
It probably would've been simple to get him if Bush had only kept his
eye on the ball, but it seems he had attention deficit disorder and
rather than stick to the original game plan, he gave up six months
later. In fact, one of the CIA guys tracking Obama down interviewed
on 60 Minutes disclosed how close they were to getting the guy, but
then for some unknown reason were told to pull back. Question: Why?
And who ordered it? Can anyone spell B.U.S.H.?
> .> Give Obama another 7 years and 2 months, will ya? Then we'll talk.
>
> I'm giving Obama the exact same honeymoon period you guys gave Bush:
> None.
Bush didn't have anything to do in his first 7 1/2 months in office.
For the most part, everything was fine at the time. So one kind of
expected him to get around to some of the important smaller domestic
jobs that affected everyday folk and he wasn't even doing that. The
guy didn't wake up till 9/11.
> .> > .> Incidentally, I do have my doubts about the wisdom of holding the
> > > > trials in New York because I think they could've gotten an easier
> > > > conviction and with a lot less flash if it was held in Topeka, Kansas,
> > > > instead, not to mention it probably would've cost a lot less money on
> > > > security.>
> .
> > > Or we could have had the trials in Gitmo and denied these cockroaches
> > > a platform to attack America, while keeping Americans safe. There is
> > > not a single reason to hold the trials in America. Not one.
> .
> > Justice. That's the American way - no?>
>
> .
> For spies? Hell, no. Throughout American history, captured spies
> were beaten for information, then slapped against the wall and shot.
> That's how it works in pretty much ever other country in the world.
What are those words in the Constitution? "Justice for all". It
sounds pretty clear and unambiguous to me. Doesn't say anything like,
"except spies". Oh, no! I'm dealing with an Anti-Constitutionalist!
Somebody ought to round you up and hang you by a tree - skip the
trial!
> .> Innocent till proven guilty.>
>
> They would have had a perfectly fair trial in Gitmo. Remember? The
> Military Commissions Act of 2006? Obama fought for that bill? In it,
> he promised that this bill would make trails on US soil unnecessary?
Well, since he's closing down Gitmo, it kind of makes a trial not
practical to have there. But I've also said that I have my doubts
about New York being a wise choice of location, too.
>
> No?
>
> Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqGQJ8HDNiE
> .> Can you rightly say which of them are innocent and which are guilty
> > besides having been coached into believing one way or the other by
> > what the government and media has fed you?>
>
> .
> Here's a video of one of your dear little innocent lambs. I dare you
> to watch this entire video. But you won't - you pussy.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtfZLajAfQ0
> .
> (defense of confessed murders snipped.)
Do you even understand any of the principles of justice? One of them
is to separate the innocent from the guilty. Some will clearly be
found guilty, while others are quite possibly innocent. There's a
procedure involved to determine who is what. One of the detainees is
a guy named Omar Khadr. You've had no news stories about this guy in
the U.S., but in Canada he's a big case. The kid was 15 when he was
caught and all sorts of reasonable doubts have been raised as to his
being guilty of anything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khadr
But the government in its zealotry is determined to convict him and
execute him come hell or high water. It's the defense's job in the
justice system that the constitution guarantees to ensure that doesn't
happen. But if it's proven without a doubt that the kid was guilty,
then so be it. The proper procedure to that end was followed. Then
again, justice is imperfect as there have often been times when those
found guilty were still found innocent years later. That's why no
matter how guilty one "looks," you have to get past the "looks" to get
to the meat of the real story of what the defendant has done or not
done.
> .> > .> After all, who would want to destroy Topeka, Kansas? It
> > > > wouldn't make for great headlines from the terrorists' p.o.v..
> .
> > > Are you on crack?
> .
> > Well, you certainly must be if you think Topeka, Kansas, could be a
> > target worth the time, money and energy for Middle Eastern terrorists
> > to go after.
>
> Fort Hood.
A military base makes for great headlines as we've all seen. Bin
Laden and gang must've got a nice surge out of that one, it's a
feather in their cap. But Topeka, Kansas? What the hell is there to
be excited about over any victory? Unless you totally wipe it off the
face of the map in one fell swoop, which could be considered an
impressive enough act.
> > > .> > .> A dead cockroach as president could've gotten that high a rating at the time. >
> .
> > > > > Clinton was president when the World Trade Center was bombed the first
> > > > > time. He viewed the entire event as a photo op. After the OK City
> > > > > Bombing, Clinton tried to use it as an excuse to attack Rush
> > > > > Limbaugh. George W. Bush used the event to pull Americans together.
> .
> > > > Yeah, we can clearly see how well he did that:
> .
> > > >http://www.lies.com/images/bush_approval.gif
> .
> > > It didn't last, of course - but for a time, America was united. I
> > > don't remember Bush using the bombing as an excuse to attack his
> > > critics, as Clinton did.
> .
> > What bombing?
>
> The World Trade Center Bombing. You DO know that that happened during
> the Clinton Administration, don't you? Seven people died.
There was also the bombving of the naval ship and the Oklahoma
bombing. You need to be specific. And how did Clinton attack his
critics? Sorry, but that was 16 years ago and a lot has happened to
me since then.
> .> > .> > > We'll wait and see if Obama gets lucky too should Bin Laden ever rear his ugly head again.>
> .
> > > What do you mean, "lucky"? For years, I've been assured by the left
> > > that catching Obama would be the simplest thing on Earth - "how hard
> > > can it be to find the tallest man in Afghanistan" Hilary Clinton
> > > asked.
> .
> > For years you were assured by Bush that he'd get him dead or alive.
> > So much for the wild, wild west mentality.
>
> .
> And for years, I was assured that catching Obama would be a snap -
> after all "how hard can it be to find the tallest man in
> Afghanistan?" So, where is he?
He's where the CIA almost did get him but we're pulled back from doing
so by Bush. He hasn't gone anywhere, if he's not dead. The problem
is Pakistan. It's their country and if they don't want the U.S. to
nuke Bin Laden's area to make sure he's gone forever, then that's
their right. If anybody will get them, it'll be the Pakistanis now
that the pressure is on them with all the bombings they're getting.
> > > .> > Obama would probably let bin Laden go. he's certainly doing
> > > > > everything possible to let the 9/11 planners go.
> .
> > > > Oh, yo jus' bein' so silly, boy.>
> .
> > > I wish I were. As it stands now, Obama will have to be read his
> > > Miranda rights - literally. With all the protections the ACLU have
> > > given the terrorists, and the competence of the Holder Justice
> > > Department, I'm not at all confident that they'd be able to get a
> > > conviction.
> .
> > Well, when everybody from the Attorney General down is saying that
> > they'll be found guilty, you can bet your bottom dollar the defense
> > teams are going to do their utmost to prove them wrong, because to
> > even put that conviction out before there is a conviction goes against
> > the principles of seeking justice.
>
> .
> Yes, Eric Holder is doing everything he can to screw up the trial. He
> wants the terrorists to walk.
They'll only walk if the government has no case or screws it up. And
Justice allows for that to happen, like it or hate it. Blame the
founding fathers if you hate it.
> .> If they're found guilty on
> > indisputable and irrefutable evidence, so be it; but if there's enough
> > or too many shadows of doubt to convict them that they have to be
> > released, then so be it too - that's justice, love it or hate it.>
>
> .
> No, that's not justice. That's perverting justice to advance Obama's
> petty political games.
So someone can be convicted on no or frivoulous evidence? Is that
your form of justice? Wow, if it's that easy, then I'd get you
arrested and make sure I get you convicted on stupidity based on your
postings here and have you executed for it.
>
> > Personally, I really do think Bush and Cheney were behind 9/11
>
> Bithering lunacy deleted. But you think the Birthers are nuts, huh?
Here it is again. Get the popcorn, folks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60&feature=related
And yeah, the birthers are pretty stupid. Justice has already
determined that when their cases have been consistently thrown out of
court. How many more times does Justice need to thrown them out of
court before you get it?
> > > > > .> > I'm kidding, of course. No way that lox is going to get re-elected.
> > > > > > > I'm not even sure that he'll win the nomination.
> .
> > > > > > Three years is still a long ways to go and a lot can happen till then
> > > > > > - even the end of the world in 2012. So there are no certainties of
> > > > > > anything at this point.
> .
> > > > > Maybe not - but I'm hard pressed in imagine a scenario that Obama
> > > > > wouldn't fuck up.
> .
> > > > Well, he still hasn't screwed up anything yet. Seriously. Think
> > > > about it.
> .
> > > Let's see -
> .
> > > Cash For Clunkers
> .
> > Where's the failure? The car companies are still standing.
>
> So, in your mind, anything better than the complete destruction of all
> US Auto Industry is a success? My, what high standards you hold Obama
> to.
Anything better than what it was before, even if it's just slightly
better, is still, by definition, "better". Are you arguing against
things getting better, even if they're just getting a little better?
It's like you're broke one day with not a penny to your name and then
you find $2 on the street the next day. You're not an instant
millionaire, but suddenly things have gotten a little "better" for
you. They have to start getting better somewhere in order to get some
traction so they could get better still until they become greatly
improved. Who knows what you can do with that $2 you found? Maybe
buy a cup of coffee you wouldn't've otherwise that might get you
talking to some guy next to you who'd end up giving you a job, which
would find your getting better still and soon your situation greatly
improves. Inaction = no possibilities.
Dissenting views are only valid if they're not distorted. It's
persistent distortion that creates fascism - read up on Hitler.
Blame Bush. He got the ball rolling on that one. Obama wouldn't be
trying to stop it if Bush hadn't started it. How many times does that
need repeating?
> .> > > > Did you know that, as of this writing, if the election were tomorrow,
> > > > > Obama and Sarah Palin would be in a dead heat?
> .
> > > > Meaningless fantasy. Snap out of it and try to live in the real world.
> .
> > > Sorry, that's what Rasmussen reported yesterday. Oh, and of this
> > > writing, Americans favor Repubicans by a seven point margin. Quite a
> > > difference from last year when they favored the Democrats by an equal
> > > number.
> .
> > Last year was last year, this year is this year, next year will be
> > next year. It's all passing fads.
>
> .
> No, it's not a "fad". Real lives are being put at risk because of
> Obama's fecklessness. There will be massive tax hikes and inflation
> to pay for his squandering of American treasure.
Yeah, so what? You're paying more in taxes now than you were 10 years
ago. Ten years ago you paid more than 10 years before that. What
you're paying now is a bargain compared to what you'll be paying 10
years from now. There's no stopping it. If you don't want to pay
taxes, there's a simple solution: get rid of half the population.
That'll surely cut down the expense of running government right there
because they wouldn't have to take care of as many people, nor need as
many workers and offices for the job. But in 50 years you'll probably
have twice the population that you have now, which is twice what it
was 50 years ago. Taxes are here to stay - forever. You've got no
story worth telling otherwise.
.
>
> This isn't a joke.
Now that's funny.
s.p....@juno.com
Hmmmmm. You clowns obsessed over The Blowjob for what, 12 years? By my
count, that means we still have over a decade of kicking the Drunken
Frat Boy to the curb.
S, Olson