Question for the Liberals
dragons...@earthlink.net
who spout your rhetoric concerning the evils of the Reps., and how
corrupt law enforcement is and how racist we are...I have a question
for you.
What should be done about the sick fuck that molested my 3 year old
daughter on Saturday?
I really want to know your hug a felon reasons.
john q public
any of the Liberals that you mentioned or anyone else for that matter
ever suggested that the book, table, bench, gavel, chair and electricity
NOT be thrown at child molesters.
I certainly hope that you are fucking with our minds, if not, all that I can
offer is my best wishes for you and yours!
<dragons...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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BRIAR
have an opinion on this.
There is a special place in hell for child molesters and we should make sure
they reach that place as soon as possible.
--
Z
.44 Mag. when you
care enough to send
the very best
"Montani semper liberi"
(Mountaineers are always free)
<dragons...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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efkent
didn't trust or know? You don't seem to be a very responsible parent.
Eugene Kent. A Labor Voice from Ohio. Support the Palestine Intafadat.
Boycott israel and crush zionism.
<dragons...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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efkent
of a child molester? Aren't they even more despicable?
Eugene Kent. A Labor voice from Ohio. Support the Palestine Intafadat.
Boycott isarel and crush zionism.
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john q public
You just make your stupid ASSumtions and start insult/assault/ing people!
Hell as far as either of us know this Child could have been molested in a
Catholic/Protestant/Jewish/Muslim/Mormon/Baptist/ect........church/religious
daycare!
"efkent" <efkent@fusenet> wrote in message
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dragons...@earthlink.net
how this works do you? You blame the parent. This was a friend of my
sons who we did know and was in playing in my son's room. Tell me
again how this sick little parasite and his actions are my fault.
Trųütmån
>Why did you allow someone to be alone with your 3 year old daughter that
>you didn't trust or know? You don't seem to be a very responsible
>parent.
What a stupid comment. Did you think through it at all? You don't think
that people you know and trust can wind up being child molesters? I'm
willing to bet that most CM cases happen within the family - all people
that are likely trusted.
--
______________________________
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http://www.troutman.org
dragons...@earthlink.net
while my wife was home with the kids and I was at a mandatory Advanced
Cardiac Life Support class. This kid was playing with my son. When
my son left ot go to his grandparents house, this punk told my wife
that his parents were not home and that his mom said he could stay
until they returned. My wife told him to go to my son's room and play
video games. At some point he lured my daughter in and voila. My
wife went to find my daughter a few minutes later and caught the whole
thing. Both with pants half-way down. I came home moments later and
called P.D.. We are waiting for the detectives to get in touch. The
response we got from the officer is that they aren't "set up" to deal
with a 12 year old and a three year old, only if it was an adult.
Looking forward to the next few days. Having fun with a daughter who
now has been crying all night the past two nights.
dragons...@earthlink.net
And it wasn't directed at you. You and I both know where we stand.
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:47:43 -0400, "john q public"
<kysd...@putermail.net> wrote:
dragons...@earthlink.net
molesting a child wear sign to alert everyone about it? You are an
asshole. But go figure...you support a baby killing organization.
dragons...@earthlink.net
One thing that sux is the loss of peace of mind. My wife is very
upset as she thought she was being a responsible neighbor and helping
out. Turns out this kid lied and set the whole thing up. His parents
were home the whole day. he had planned this. So much for trusting.
Makes me re-think my career.
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:47:43 -0400, "john q public"
<kysd...@putermail.net> wrote:
john q public
I'd wish what you're dealing with on even my worst enemy. I wish you and
yours the best!
<dragons...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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john q public
jail after doing something really stupid in a moment of anger! To be honest
I'm more impressed with your wife, that she could keep from acting out of
anger is most impressive considering the sight that she walked into.
A wise mother stays around to repair the wounds and leaves the repercussions
to those who can dispense judgment without risking further harm to the
family.
<dragons...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Dave Christian
Maybe you can explain how it's the liberals' fault.
However, to answer your question, sometimes a man has to do
what a man has to do.
In article <3ae48d3f...@news.earthlink.net>,
dragons...@earthlink.net says...
Dave Christian
Jeff Zamrzla
you should read: "When bad things happen to good people." And yes I'm one of
those rotten "liberal democrats." However; my views are probably just as
conservative as any republican. You see, I believe that we are our
brothers keeper, which is for me the litmus test for republican or democrat.
I feel that we do need to care for and help others up from poverty, not shun
them as was done to so many persons and families in the last few decades by
the republican party.
"Dave Christian" <dchri...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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efkent
supervising your sons friend's actions around your 3 year old daughter. It
sounds like a lot of perversion in you family.
Eugene Kent. A Labor Voice from Ohio. Support the Palestine Intafadat.
<dragons...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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efkent
Christian bigots are forever using this ploy. Go stump a Bible red necks.
Your going to have to do better to flame me down than this juvenile
gibberish that you are engaging in.. I've to much experience with you
idiotic types.
Eugene Kent. A Labor Voice from Ohio. Boycott isarel and help crush zionism.
Trųütmån <mikė@trųütmån.org> wrote in message
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efkent
average ass. Do you also have a beer gut?
<dragons...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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efkent
this country, and all should respect them. It is the law that will take the
correct actions. If in case this violent act did happen. But I have my
doubts about that. For this has all the hall marks of a very sick troll,
looking for attention.
Eugene Kent. A Labor Voice from Ohio. Support the Palestine Intafadat.
Boycott isarel and help crush zionism.
john q public <kysd...@putermail.net> wrote in message
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dragons...@earthlink.net
3 year old is something a man has to do, you should be castrated.
dragons...@earthlink.net
not made up. You need help.
dragons...@earthlink.net
have a beer gut and I am not a christian. I stated what happened.
The only blaming anyone is you. I only wish I had killfile so you
would go away. My wife had nothing to do with this.
dragons...@earthlink.net
albeit it needs to be prodded as they don't want to do anything. Why
you find it is sick is beyond me. Apparently you know nothing of the
type of people that do this as there is no outward sign. If it were
that easy, then you could pick them out in a crowd, or would that be
profiling?
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:56:15 GMT, ki...@dubyareport.com (The Axl Rose
And Burning Bush) wrote:
>On The Date Of 23 Apr 2001 16:26:39 -0500, mi...@tr0utman.org (Tr0utman) Wrote The
>Followng:
>
>->"efkent" <efkent@fusenet> graced us with the following:
>->
>->>Why did you allow someone to be alone with your 3 year old daughter that
>->>you didn't trust or know? You don't seem to be a very responsible
>->>parent.
>->
>->What a stupid comment. Did you think through it at all? You don't think
>->that people you know and trust can wind up being child molesters? I'm
>->willing to bet that most CM cases happen within the family - all people
>->that are likely trusted.
>
>
>What kind of person would, only days afterward, post a message asking for comment on
>their child's molestation?
>
>Doesn't anyone know a troll anymore?
>
>Think about it. Would any of you run and post a message asking opinions from
>strangers if your mother,daughter,wife were raped?
>
>Sounds sick in and of itself.
>
>It may sound harsh BUT HE DID ASK!
>
>
>------------------------
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dragons...@earthlink.net
reason I brought this up is I was very angry, and still am, about what
I was told by the officer taking the report. He said that
"the system isn't set up to deal with this. If it had been 'uncle
Billy' or someone like that then we would know what to do. Right now
I'm not sure anything will come of this" The kid wasn't arrested or
anything. I was angry at our liberal mayor and police chief and the
others that are trying to be oh so P.C. and the victim has no rights.
Therefore, since most everyone here is quite opinionated, I wanted to
know what the opinion was, and why this "system" got to where it is.
Does that make sense?
dragons...@earthlink.net
asked the question and YOU that started in. But then again, one only
has to look at your signature to see the anti-semetic loser you are.
dragons...@earthlink.net
Still haven't heard from the detectives or whoever that deals with
these things. If we haven't heard anything by noon tomorrow, then we
call and find out what is going on. As it is I went to the school and
informed the principal. His reaction is "hopefully this will all
blow-over". You can probably guess my response.
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:52:48 -0400, "john q public"
dragons...@earthlink.net
originally thought of you. Silly me. First impressions and all.
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:53:34 GMT, ki...@dubyareport.com (The Axl Rose
And Burning Bush) wrote:
>On The Date Of Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:27:29 GMT, dragons...@earthlink.net Wrote The
>Followng:
>
>->Are you advocating that people who have or have thought about
>->molesting a child wear sign to alert everyone about it?
>
>
>No, I think we all know republicans don't wear those signs these days.
dragons...@earthlink.net
stop reading/answering to it.
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 06:31:35 GMT, ki...@dubyareport.com (The Axl Rose
And Burning Bush And Phillip M. Spaulding III And DickyHoax) wrote:
>On The Date Of Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:42:38 GMT, dragons...@earthlink.net Wrote The
>Followng:
>
>->Exactly. I am glad I didn't walk in as I would probably be in jail.
>
>NOTHING is stopping you. After all you did say you knew who the person was and where
>they live.
>
>MUST you air your families grief in newsgroups? Have you no shame?
dragons...@earthlink.net
Since when is a question laying blame? Think before you act.
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 06:30:21 GMT, ki...@dubyareport.com (The Axl Rose
And Burning Bush And Phillip M. Spaulding III And DickyHoax) wrote:
>On The Date Of Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:17:51 GMT, dragons...@earthlink.net Wrote The
>Followng:
>
>->I never said it was the liberals fault.
>
>
>The thread is titled "Question for the Liberals"
>What the hell else is one to assume you mean other than to lay blame at liberals?
>
>Think before you post.
Dave Christian
You didn't? You were babbling on about your police department's
inability to cope with the situation and addressed the "hug a
felon" reasons to the liberals (question for the liberals).
As for what a man should do, a 12 year old boy isn't a man. My
comment wasn't addressing him.
You're the man. And the father. You're a smart guy. You figure
it out.
But I'm sorry your kid got molested. And I'm sorry that your
response is to politicize it. You should be focused on your
daughter.
In article <3ae4fd2...@news.earthlink.net>,
dragons...@earthlink.net says...
Dave Christian
First off, excuse me to replying to my own message. I'll explain
why I'm doing it.
But first let me say this. There is a SERIOUSLY good question
buried in this. Unfortunately, you have chosen to cover it in
a politically partisan wrapper. As such, it makes it difficult
to give it it's serious consideration.
I will disregard your political spin in an effort to address the
more serious topic.
What can a citizen do when their police department is unable or
unwilling to press criminal charges against someone? It doesn't
matter what the crime was or how old the person is. What is the
recourse for your average citizen?
First, let me say that the police probably WILL figure out what
to do. I believe that their immediate response was one somewhat
typical of a "first case" indicent. There's not a standard
procedure for dealing with it. I suspect that the police will
contact some judges and attorneys and figure out how to proceed.
If that doesn't work, I suspect that you probably have some
civil action you can take against the kid's family.
I have no idea how you deal with confrontations, but if it were
me, I would have been over having a seriously adult converstation
with that boy's parents the night the incident happened. I would
have made certain that the parent knew that this situation would
NEVER happen again and that it was going to be my mission to make
sure that their son was prosecuted to the fullest extent of the
law. Furthermore, I would inform them that I was going to make
sure that other parents were well aware of their son's behavior.
In other words, I would make it my mission to ostracize (sp?)
them from the community to (a) make sure the kid didn't do whatever
he did to another little girl and (b) get my pound of flesh out
of his parents. Again, whether or not you would want to do such
a thing would depend on your tolerance for confrontation (both
verbal as well as potentially physical). I've done similar and
would gladly do it again. Like I said, a man has to do what a
man has to do.
In article <MPG.154ffd94f...@news-server.nc.rr.com>,
dchri...@nc.rr.com says...
>
> You didn't? You were babbling on about your police department's
> inability to cope with the situation and addressed the "hug a
> felon" reasons to the liberals (question for the liberals).
>
> As for what a man should do, a 12 year old boy isn't a man. My
> comment wasn't addressing him.
>
> You're the man. And the father. You're a smart guy. You figure
> it out.
>
> But I'm sorry your kid got molested. And I'm sorry that your
> response is to politicize it. You should be focused on your
> daughter.
>
>
> In article <3ae4fd2...@news.earthlink.net>,
> dragons...@earthlink.net says...
> > I never said it was the liberals fault. And if you think molesting a
> > 3 year old is something a man has to do, you should be castrated.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:13:35 GMT, Dave Christian
> > <dchri...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Maybe you can explain how it's the liberals' fault.
> > >
> > >However, to answer your question, sometimes a man has to do
> > >what a man has to do.
> > >
> > >
> > >In article <3ae48d3f...@news.earthlink.net>,
> > >dragons...@earthlink.net says...
john q public
>
> I will disregard your political spin in an effort to address the
> more serious topic.
Attacking it is NOT disregarding it! So much for your moral high ground!
>
>
> First, let me say that the police probably WILL figure out what
> to do. I believe that their immediate response was one somewhat
> typical of a "first case" indicent. There's not a standard
> procedure for dealing with it. I suspect that the police will
> contact some judges and attorneys and figure out how to proceed.
>
> If that doesn't work, I suspect that you probably have some
> civil action you can take against the kid's family.
Civil action, oh now that would be just great for the daughter.
>
> I have no idea how you deal with confrontations, but if it were
> me, I would have been over having a seriously adult converstation
> with that boy's parents the night the incident happened. I would
> have made certain that the parent knew that this situation would
> NEVER happen again and that it was going to be my mission to make
> sure that their son was prosecuted to the fullest extent of the
> law. Furthermore, I would inform them that I was going to make
> sure that other parents were well aware of their son's behavior.
> In other words, I would make it my mission to ostracize (sp?)
> them from the community to (a) make sure the kid didn't do whatever
> he did to another little girl and (b) get my pound of flesh out
> of his parents. Again, whether or not you would want to do such
> a thing would depend on your tolerance for confrontation (both
> verbal as well as potentially physical). I've done similar and
> would gladly do it again. Like I said, a man has to do what a
> man has to do.
Form the sounds of it you're not a man and definitely not a father.
Would you tape a sign to the girls back saying that "so and so" molested
me, how about a tattoo across her forehead?
Jeez talk about being molested.
BTW You do all that to a 12 year old and he'll probably turn out to be......
....... well , YOU!
john q public
"Dave Christian" <dchri...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
Dave Christian
says...
>
> "Dave Christian" <dchri...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.155002416...@news-server.nc.rr.com...
> >
>
> > I will disregard your political spin in an effort to address the
> > more serious topic.
>
> Attacking it is NOT disregarding it! So much for your moral high ground!
I'm not taking the moral high ground, although I feel entitled to
do so.
> > First, let me say that the police probably WILL figure out what
> > to do. I believe that their immediate response was one somewhat
> > typical of a "first case" indicent. There's not a standard
> > procedure for dealing with it. I suspect that the police will
> > contact some judges and attorneys and figure out how to proceed.
> >
> > If that doesn't work, I suspect that you probably have some
> > civil action you can take against the kid's family.
>
> Civil action, oh now that would be just great for the daughter.
And what would be just great for the daughter?
Nothing is going to undo what was done to her.
What this man needs to focus on are two thing. One, make sure
that this child doesn't do this again. To make that happen the
father needs the help of the authorities. That's where civil
justice comes in.
The second thing is help for his daughter. That's where this
man as a father comes in. It sounds like he is doing that.
> > I have no idea how you deal with confrontations, but if it were
> > me, I would have been over having a seriously adult converstation
> > with that boy's parents the night the incident happened. I would
> > have made certain that the parent knew that this situation would
> > NEVER happen again and that it was going to be my mission to make
> > sure that their son was prosecuted to the fullest extent of the
> > law. Furthermore, I would inform them that I was going to make
> > sure that other parents were well aware of their son's behavior.
> > In other words, I would make it my mission to ostracize (sp?)
> > them from the community to (a) make sure the kid didn't do whatever
> > he did to another little girl and (b) get my pound of flesh out
> > of his parents. Again, whether or not you would want to do such
> > a thing would depend on your tolerance for confrontation (both
> > verbal as well as potentially physical). I've done similar and
> > would gladly do it again. Like I said, a man has to do what a
> > man has to do.
>
> Form the sounds of it you're not a man and definitely not a father.
> Would you tape a sign to the girls back saying that "so and so" molested
> me, how about a tattoo across her forehead?
> Jeez talk about being molested.
> BTW You do all that to a 12 year old and he'll probably turn out to be......
> ....... well , YOU!
And what would you suggest, run and hide and pretend that it didn't
happen. Would you stand idly by while the kid does the same thing
to your neighbors' daughters?
That's not being much of a man, father, OR neighbor.
You should hope that the 12 year old grows up to be a man and
father like me.
Standing up for what's right isn't always easy. You have to have
a backbone and be willing to stand in the fire. I would like to
think that if push came to shove, you would have the courage to do
just that.
What would you do? You seem to be implying that you wouldn't do
anything that would put your child in the public eye. Would you
feel the same if your wife were raped? Would you suggest that
she simply not say anything, just accept the fact that she was
raped and it probably wouldn't happen again? I'm really curious
what you would recommend.
john q public
> In article <9c6fh4$pm7$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, kysd...@putermail.net
> says...
> >
> > "Dave Christian" <dchri...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.155002416...@news-server.nc.rr.com...
> > >
> >
> > > I will disregard your political spin in an effort to address the
> > > more serious topic.
> >
> > Attacking it is NOT disregarding it! So much for your moral high ground!
>
> I'm not taking the moral high ground, although I feel entitled to
> do
>
>
> > > First, let me say that the police probably WILL figure out what
> > > to do. I believe that their immediate response was one somewhat
> > > typical of a "first case" indicent. There's not a standard
> > > procedure for dealing with it. I suspect that the police will
> > > contact some judges and attorneys and figure out how to proceed.
> > >
> > > If that doesn't work, I suspect that you probably have some
> > > civil action you can take against the kid's family.
> >
> > Civil action, oh now that would be just great for the daughter.
>
> And what would be just great for the daughter?
>
To concentrate on her not some idiotic macho idea of what is right!
> Nothing is going to undo what was done to her.
So why go after a financial settlement, I understand that to the RW, $
cure all sins but not in the real world!
>
> What this man needs to focus on are two thing. One, make sure
> that this child doesn't do this again. To make that happen the
> father needs the help of the authorities. That's where civil
> justice comes in.
>
> The second thing is help for his daughter. That's where this
> man as a father comes in. It sounds like he is doing that.
Even if your two concerns were correct you have the order WRONG!
First and foremost is the well-being of the daughter!
Second should be the Wife .
Third the son
and lastly the Boy who has already been reported to the authorities!
No I suggest that the person take care of his family and let the court
system take care of the boy!
>
> That's not being much of a man, father, OR neighbor.
Wrong taking care of his family is the definition of being a Man and a
Father
Punnishing the boy is the job of the courts.
>
> You should hope that the 12 year old grows up to be a man and
> father like me.
Why, so that he will ignore his daughter in her time of need and try to "be
a man" by extracting his pound of flesh?
No, I think not!
>
> Standing up for what's right isn't always easy. You have to have
> a backbone and be willing to stand in the fire. I would like to
> think that if push came to shove, you would have the courage to do
> just that.
Making it your "mission to ostracize (sp?)" the boy. Does not help the
daughter,
the only thing that it would do is sooth your conscience and guilt feelings
of being a bad
parent and allowing it to happen.!
I would have the courage to help my daughter and the intelligence to
understand
what would help and what would hurt her! Something that you seem to be
sorely
lacking!
>
> What would you do? You seem to be implying that you wouldn't do
> anything that would put your child in the public eye. Would you
> feel the same if your wife were raped? Would you suggest that
> she simply not say anything, just accept the fact that she was
> raped and it probably wouldn't happen again? I'm really curious
> what you would recommend.
I would recommend that he do exactly as he has done. Report it to the
police and apply pressure on the police to do something. Once the
investigation
is done I would hire a qualified lawyer to insure that only my wife who was
an eye witness to the
molestation was called to testify. You see Dave she is an adult and has the
tools to deal with the situation.
BTW Dave just in case you do not follow the news, it seems that in most
cases where a child
and the12 yr old is a child is acting out like this, they themselves are
victims of molestation.
But of course that shouldn't stop Mr. macho Dave from extracting his pound
of flesh from a twelve year old
boy! That would really make you feel like a man wouldn't it Dave!
My opinion is that it's fathers like you that create boys like the one in
question!
Dave Christian
Hey, that's a whole bunch of exclamation points! Save some for the
rest of us!!!!
C'mon John Q. Public, you should go back and re-read what I posted
originally.
In my initial post, I said that the police would probably figure
out how to deal with this situation. I would hope that the original
poster's police department doesn't have to deal with a lot of these
kinds of things. (It would be quite sad if that were the case.)
I proposed civil action as an alternative should the police come
up short in bringing charges against the boy.
And I proposed confronting the parents to drive the point home.
Now, as for your interpretation of my macho attitude, so be it.
I'm not after a pound of flesh from the kid. I just want to make
sure that (a) he's never around my kid again and (b) other parents
know about him so he's not around THEIR kid.
If doing that takes intimidating the kid's family (through legal
and other means), so be it. I (unfortunately) know people who
have been in that situation and have done that very thing. It
works. Sorry if you have a style issue with that.
In my neighborhood, we know who the problem kids are. The
parents talk and let each other know which kids have problems
and who should be watched. It's a neighbor thing. And a
good parent thing.
Taking care of my own daughter, that goes without saying. That's
what a father does.
As for me, men like myself create young men and women who
respect others and stand up for what's right. Even when what's
right isn't easy.
As for your opinion, it is just that - your opinion. I don't
particularly care what you think of me personally, even though
you seem to enjoy turning a discussion of an issue into a
personal attack. And that's ok. I'm an adult, I can take it.
And I've tried to avoid returing fire as much as I can. Like
I said, I'm an adult.
I hope no one ever has to be in the situation we're discussing,
but I especially hope that you don't have to John.
In article <9c96fc$qiq$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, kysd...@putermail.net
says...
> To concentrate on her not some idiotic macho idea of what is right!
> Even if your two concerns were correct you have the order WRONG!
> First and foremost is the well-being of the daughter!
> Third the son
> and lastly the Boy who has already been reported to the authorities!
> No I suggest that the person take care of his family and let the court
> system take care of the boy!
> No, I think not!
> Making it your "mission to ostracize (sp?)" the boy. Does not help the
> daughter,
> the only thing that it would do is sooth your conscience and guilt feelings
> of being a bad
> parent and allowing it to happen.!
> I would have the courage to help my daughter and the intelligence to
> understand
> what would help and what would hurt her! Something that you seem to be
> sorely
> lacking!
john q public
"Dave Christian" <dcn...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1552a8156...@news-server.nc.rr.com...
Hey Dave that is what I am doing, standing up for what is right.
Even when it is not easy!
It is not right to make the daughter suffer more than she already
has. It is not right to ostracize the boy when odds are he was simply
acting out the abuse that he has suffered!
It might be easier to torture the kid and make him afraid to be seen in
daylight
but what will he be doing at night when you do that.
>
> As for your opinion, it is just that - your opinion. I don't
> particularly care what you think of me personally, even though
> you seem to enjoy turning a discussion of an issue into a
> personal attack. And that's ok. I'm an adult, I can take it.
> And I've tried to avoid returing fire as much as I can. Like
> I said, I'm an adult.
Dave when someone assumes that they are "entitled to the high ground"
that means that they feel someone else has the "low ground"
"And what would you suggest, run and hide and pretend that it didn't
happen." I suppose that you don't consider the above a personal attack?
No one said that you weren't an adult, although some might question whether
you are a "Mature" adult. Maturity usually helps one refrain from shooting
oneself in the foot!
Dave Christian
says...
> Hey Dave that is what I am doing, standing up for what is right.
> Even when it is not easy!
> It is not right to make the daughter suffer more than she already
> has. It is not right to ostracize the boy when odds are he was simply
> acting out the abuse that he has suffered!
> It might be easier to torture the kid and make him afraid to be seen in
> daylight
> but what will he be doing at night when you do that.
You're not making the daughter suffer. You deal with your
daughter as a family, not in public.
As for the boy, you hold him up to the harsh light of public
scrutiny. And I don't care what CAUSED his behavior. I just
don't want it to happen with my child again and with anyone
else's child if I can help it.
> > As for your opinion, it is just that - your opinion. I don't
> > particularly care what you think of me personally, even though
> > you seem to enjoy turning a discussion of an issue into a
> > personal attack. And that's ok. I'm an adult, I can take it.
> > And I've tried to avoid returing fire as much as I can. Like
> > I said, I'm an adult.
>
> Dave when someone assumes that they are "entitled to the high ground"
> that means that they feel someone else has the "low ground"
> "And what would you suggest, run and hide and pretend that it didn't
> happen." I suppose that you don't consider the above a personal attack?
That's right. Certainly not compared to some of the personal attacks
you made, wouldn't you agree?
> No one said that you weren't an adult, although some might question whether
> you are a "Mature" adult. Maturity usually helps one refrain from shooting
> oneself in the foot!
Some might, but they would be wrong.
I'll defer to you on information about shooting oneself in the foot.
I'm still waiting for you to get back on topic.
john q public
> In article <9cap36$8iv$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, kysd...@putermail.net
> says...
> > Hey Dave that is what I am doing, standing up for what is right.
> > Even when it is not easy!
> > It is not right to make the daughter suffer more than she already
> > has. It is not right to ostracize the boy when odds are he was simply
> > acting out the abuse that he has suffered!
> > It might be easier to torture the kid and make him afraid to be seen in
> > daylight
> > but what will he be doing at night when you do that.
>
> You're not making the daughter suffer. You deal with your
> daughter as a family, not in public.
Sorry Dave but your harrasment of the boy will keep the public
eye on her!
>
> As for the boy, you hold him up to the harsh light of public
> scrutiny. And I don't care what CAUSED his behavior. I just
> don't want it to happen with my child again and with anyone
> else's child if I can help it.
And yet you "Claim" not to be after a pound of flesh? Not caring
what caused the behavior IS not caring to correct the behavior.
All you seem to want to do is inflict pain on a 12 year old boy.
Boy does that sound real mature!
>
> > > As for your opinion, it is just that - your opinion. I don't
> > > particularly care what you think of me personally, even though
> > > you seem to enjoy turning a discussion of an issue into a
> > > personal attack. And that's ok. I'm an adult, I can take it.
> > > And I've tried to avoid returing fire as much as I can. Like
> > > I said, I'm an adult.
> >
> > Dave when someone assumes that they are "entitled to the high ground"
> > that means that they feel someone else has the "low ground"
> > "And what would you suggest, run and hide and pretend that it didn't
> > happen." I suppose that you don't consider the above a personal attack?
>
> That's right. Certainly not compared to some of the personal attacks
> you made, wouldn't you agree?
You sound like the D"W"LIE buttmunch crew, "oh yeah well Billy did this and
billy
did that, so there"
What was it that I said that hit so close to home and made you so defensive?
"BTW You do all that to a 12 year old and he'll probably turn out to
be......
....... well , YOU!" Well that is a fact, abuse a child and you get a child
abuser.
>
>
> > No one said that you weren't an adult, although some might question
whether
> > you are a "Mature" adult. Maturity usually helps one refrain from
shooting
> > oneself in the foot!
>
> Some might, but they would be wrong.
>
> I'll defer to you on information about shooting oneself in the foot.
>
> I'm still waiting for you to get back on topic.
Then perhaps you shouldn't whine and make your little personal attacks!
The topic is the Girl that you want to keep in the public eye.
The topic is the three year old girl that you think should be used to harass
a twelve year old boy.
The question is; Is it good for the girl to attack, harass and ostracize the
boy
or would that just make Dave FEEL better!
Dave Christian
How peculiar.
You seem to be confusing harrasment with confronting.
As for me, I would much rather pay his father a visit, inform him of
what his son did, tell him that I have filed charges, and that I've
discussed the incident with my neighbors. I would then ask the father
what he plans to do to make sure a similar incident doesn't occur
a second time and I would let the father know that if there ever IS
a second time, that the father and I would have some issues to deal
with.
Then again, maybe that 12 year old boy would feel better if he got a
hug from you.
As for the personal attacks, after reading some of your other posts
in this group, I realize that it's just the way you operate.
See ya. Best of luck growing up and becoming a father.
In article <9cbnn2$l1v$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, kysd...@putermail.net
says...
> Sorry Dave but your harrasment of the boy will keep the public
> eye on her!
john q public
>
>
> Then again, maybe that 12 year old boy would feel better if he got a
> hug from you.
>
> As for the personal attacks, after reading some of your other posts
> in this group, I realize that it's just the way you operate.
>
> See ya. Best of luck growing up and becoming a father.
>
What's wrong Dave does it upset your little world to be faced with someone
that is man enough to say what they mean and mean what they say?
Sorry son but I do not need to try and shield my attacks in flowery
language. If I think that you are an ignorant immature fuck, and I do.
I'll come right out and say it, no need to try and tip toe around the truth!
Dave Christian
says...
Thanks for proving right.
See ya.
And try to grow up.
john q public
LOL if you were a mature adult you'd understand that Growing up is a
biological function that one has no control over but maturing is something
that I have done and you have failed to do. GTFOI young man, you are not
beyond hope but the longer you deny the truth the further behind you will
fall!
Dave Christian
At least you didn't curse that time. That's a good start.
john q public
Wimp! Get The Fuck Over It!
Dave Christian
Now THAT'S the John Q. Public I know and love. Cursing and
exclamation points. No better way for an intelligent man to
make his case.
FYI, at this point, I'm just getting a laugh out of the fact that
you have to attack me no matter what I write. If I wrote that the
sky is blue, you'd feel compelled to call me some names, curse
at me, and put a couple of exclamation points on it.
That's power.
Looking forward to your next message.
john q public
No rocket scientist, if you wrote the sky is blue I'd simply ignore you.
Now if you wrote as you always do something similar to
"It's about time that you began to notice that the sky is blue, what
happened did you grow up?
Then I'd call you a bloody moron!
The fact that you actually "Think" that you're getting away with it,
is what I find hilarious!
Dave Christian
says...
> No rocket scientist, if you wrote the sky is blue I'd simply ignore you.
Now THAT'S funny. If only you knew...
> Now if you wrote as you always do something similar to
> "It's about time that you began to notice that the sky is blue, what
> happened did you grow up?
> Then I'd call you a bloody moron!
Who, outside the UK, actually uses the word "bloody" as an adjective
(other than something like "bloody tampon" or "bloody axe" or
something with blood on it)?
> The fact that you actually "Think" that you're getting away with it,
> is what I find hilarious!
It really is funny, isn't it?
Thanks for the reply though. ;->
john q public
> In article <9cho5n$p6p$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, kysd...@putermail.net
> says...
> > No rocket scientist, if you wrote the sky is blue I'd simply ignore you.
>
> Now THAT'S funny. If only you knew...
>
> > Now if you wrote as you always do something similar to
> > "It's about time that you began to notice that the sky is blue, what
> > happened did you grow up?
> > Then I'd call you a bloody moron!
>
> Who, outside the UK, actually uses the word "bloody" as an adjective
> (other than something like "bloody tampon" or "bloody axe" or
> something with blood on it)?
What? You have some sort of problem with the British?
Perhaps if you simply trotted off to the Loo and removed your head frome
your arse, you could actually GTFOI!
Nah, that's expecting a bit much from you isn't it!
>
> > The fact that you actually "Think" that you're getting away with it,
> > is what I find hilarious!
>
> It really is funny, isn't it?
Yes it is!
>
> Thanks for the reply though. ;->
You'll never catch me ignoring the handicapped!
Dave Christian
says...
> > Who, outside the UK, actually uses the word "bloody" as an adjective
> > (other than something like "bloody tampon" or "bloody axe" or
> > something with blood on it)?
>
> What? You have some sort of problem with the British?
> Perhaps if you simply trotted off to the Loo and removed your head frome
> your arse, you could actually GTFOI!
> Nah, that's expecting a bit much from you isn't it!
Hahaha. You just can't stop with the dirty acronyms and exclamation
points. How great.
> > > The fact that you actually "Think" that you're getting away with it,
> > > is what I find hilarious!
> >
> > It really is funny, isn't it?
>
> Yes it is!
> >
> > Thanks for the reply though. ;->
> You'll never catch me ignoring the handicapped!
That's a pretty good one.
john q public
> In article <9cij92$acd$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, kysd...@putermail.net
> says...
> > > Who, outside the UK, actually uses the word "bloody" as an adjective
> > > (other than something like "bloody tampon" or "bloody axe" or
> > > something with blood on it)?
> >
> > What? You have some sort of problem with the British?
> > Perhaps if you simply trotted off to the Loo and removed your head frome
> > your arse, you could actually GTFOI!
> > Nah, that's expecting a bit much from you isn't it!
>
> Hahaha. You just can't stop with the dirty acronyms and exclamation
> points. How great.
That's "icky poo" acronyms, thank you very kindly.
BTW I could simply tap that good ole fashion Caps lock
KEY LIKE YOUR AVERAGE RIGHT WING LOON
AND SCREAM ATCHEW LIKE A WINGNUT 8^ )
>
>
> > > > The fact that you actually "Think" that you're getting away with it,
> > > > is what I find hilarious!
> > >
> > > It really is funny, isn't it?
> >
> > Yes it is!
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply though. ;->
> > You'll never catch me ignoring the handicapped!
>
> That's a pretty good one.
Thank you very much! I! T!r!y! 8^(
Dave Christian
says...
>
> "Dave Christian" <dcn...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1557cf57b...@news-server.nc.rr.com...
> > In article <9cij92$acd$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, kysd...@putermail.net
> > says...
> > > > Who, outside the UK, actually uses the word "bloody" as an adjective
> > > > (other than something like "bloody tampon" or "bloody axe" or
> > > > something with blood on it)?
> > >
> > > What? You have some sort of problem with the British?
> > > Perhaps if you simply trotted off to the Loo and removed your head frome
> > > your arse, you could actually GTFOI!
> > > Nah, that's expecting a bit much from you isn't it!
> >
> > Hahaha. You just can't stop with the dirty acronyms and exclamation
> > points. How great.
>
> That's "icky poo" acronyms, thank you very kindly.
> BTW I could simply tap that good ole fashion Caps lock
> KEY LIKE YOUR AVERAGE RIGHT WING LOON
> AND SCREAM ATCHEW LIKE A WINGNUT 8^ )
God bless you.