Would Americans fight so bravely?
Fredric L. Rice
against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
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"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
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> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>
> From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
I believe that we could expect you to run for the nearest neutral country.
Omega
"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
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: against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
: do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
:
: From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
The democrat party is no longer believes in war, in private gun ownership
(assault weapon ban under Clinton), or even male behavior like brawling
(look at how liberal teachers kick boys out of school for drawing pictures
of guns, soldiers and put most boys on drugs to reduce their male behavior).
The democrats want the military disbanded and all of our weapons, including
the nukes, handed over to the UN.
And if the insurgents are all the Iraqi people then why are the targets the
average citizen? Why are the insurgents using KKK tactics in order to
control the people? Why did the insurgents say that voting was against
Allah, that no man can make laws (law comes only from God). Why do they say
that democracy is the same as Satan worship?
Maybe you want the US to become an Islamic republic.
David Moffitt
"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
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> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
%%%% Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend this
country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
>
> From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
%%%% Democrat leftard are too fukn cowardly to fight. They would fall to
their knees in front of the enemy and beg for their worthless lives like
they always have in the past. :o)
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"Omega" <2121(d)@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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%%%% Fredric would just love to service those smelly men. :o)
>
>
>
Swiss Observer
Rice) wrote:
>That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
>do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>
>From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
>
I'd guess that many Americans of both sides of the aisle would fight
bravely to defend their country. But they'd have to get back into the
habit -- for the past century they've only been fighting to fuck up
other people's countries.
It's probably not too much to say that since at least 1946 the US
military has been serving, not for its country, but as paramilitary
mercenaries for the corporate warlords seeking to improve their
markets overseas.
I would challenge US "patriots" to name a single military action that
the US military has taken since World War II that really needed to be
done. Some were less predatory than others (e.g., Bosnia), but how
many really needed to be done?
mail. com
L. Rice) wrote:
> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
The Bush2-supporters would probably roll over and present their
soft underbellies to the invaders, then get on their knees and do
the dirty to please the invaders. I could be wrong; I hope I am.
> From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
Judging by the comparison of Democrat politicians and Republican
Politicians, you are of course 100% correct---- it is the
Democrats who have performed the minitary service in the past, and
will no doubt do so in the future if it is ever needed.
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wrote:
>
>"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>: That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>: against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
>: do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>:
>: From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
>
>The democrat party is no longer believes in war, in private gun ownership
>(assault weapon ban under Clinton), or even male behavior like brawling
>(look at how liberal teachers kick boys out of school for drawing pictures
>of guns, soldiers and put most boys on drugs to reduce their male behavior).
>The democrats want the military disbanded and all of our weapons, including
>the nukes, handed over to the UN.
what a bunch of crap! Its really funny but I don't know a single
democrat that was in favor of of the ban and most are shooters like
myself but I will admit I live in the Colorado/NM area which means
more shooting sports.
I also don't believe the democrats want the military disbanded they
just want the rip offs of the military industrial complkex stopped
from companies like Haliburton.
>
>And if the insurgents are all the Iraqi people then why are the targets the
>average citizen? Why are the insurgents using KKK tactics in order to
>control the people?
Why does Bush want gun control in Iraq so these people can't protect
themselves?
>Why did the insurgents say that voting was against
>Allah, that no man can make laws (law comes only from God). Why do they say
>that democracy is the same as Satan worship?
Because they are the same nut cases as the protestant fundamentalists
we have here.
>
>Maybe you want the US to become an Islamic republic.
Its no worse than it becomeing a Protestant republic like Fallwell and
his loonies want. I remind you that the paper that supports Bush the
Most is owned by Rev Loony Moon.
THOM
THOM
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Thom
<moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
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>"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
>> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>
>%%%% Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend this
>country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
you mean like Bush and Cheney did during Vietnam??
THOM
Chip Anderson
news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com:
> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been
> fighting against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many
> Americans would do the same if their country was invaded by mass
> murderers.
>
> From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
>
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I apologize for answering a later post of yours with reason. It seems that
your grasp of reality is tenuous at best.
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David Moffitt
"Thom" <toml...@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message
news:42112c2f...@news.melbpc.org.au...
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:23:17 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
> >news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
> >> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans
would
> >> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
> >
> >%%%% Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend this
> >country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
>
> you mean like Bush and Cheney did during Vietnam??
%%%% Look on each side of the Congress and the Senate and you can tell. More
Republicans served than leftards did.
>
> THOM
> >
> >
> >>
> >> From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
> >
> >%%%% Democrat leftard are too fukn cowardly to fight. They would fall to
> >their knees in front of the enemy and beg for their worthless lives like
> >they always have in the past. :o)
%%%% I see you agree! :o)
Swiss Observer
<moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
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>"Thom" <toml...@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message
>news:42112c2f...@news.melbpc.org.au...
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:23:17 GMT, "David Moffitt"
>> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>> >news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>> >> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans
>would
>> >> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>> >
>> >%%%% Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend this
>> >country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
>>
>> you mean like Bush and Cheney did during Vietnam??
>
>%%%% Look on each side of the Congress and the Senate and you can tell. More
>Republicans served than leftards did.
>
Fuck them anyway. The hardest part about voting for John Kerry was
having to vote for a fabulous war hero. At least Clinton had had the
brains to take a runner, like all of the people I know with an IQ over
100.
David Hartung
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:44:22 GMT, "Omega" <2121(d)@insightbb.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>>news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>>: That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>>: against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans
>>would
>>: do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>>:
>>: From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
>>
>>The democrat party is no longer believes in war, in private gun ownership
>>(assault weapon ban under Clinton), or even male behavior like brawling
>>(look at how liberal teachers kick boys out of school for drawing pictures
>>of guns, soldiers and put most boys on drugs to reduce their male
>>behavior).
>>The democrats want the military disbanded and all of our weapons,
>>including
>>the nukes, handed over to the UN.
>
> what a bunch of crap! Its really funny but I don't know a single
> democrat that was in favor of of the ban and most are shooters like
> myself but I will admit I live in the Colorado/NM area which means
> more shooting sports.
I thought that you had moved to Australia, or do I have you confused with
someone else?
David Hartung
"David Moffitt" <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:iPRPd.1198$SO....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
> "Thom" <toml...@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message
> news:42112c2f...@news.melbpc.org.au...
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:23:17 GMT, "David Moffitt"
>> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>> >news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been
>> >> fighting
>> >> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans
> would
>> >> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>> >
>> >%%%% Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend this
>> >country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
>>
>> you mean like Bush and Cheney did during Vietnam??
>
> %%%% Look on each side of the Congress and the Senate and you can tell.
> More
> Republicans served than leftards did.
It would be really nice if you could prove this.
David Hartung
"Swiss Observer" <dp...@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
news:smsv019n26odh4v0m...@4ax.com...
> Fuck them anyway. The hardest part about voting for John Kerry was
> having to vote for a fabulous war hero. At least Clinton had had the
> brains to take a runner, like all of the people I know with an IQ over
> 100.
Are you saying that hose of us who have served are of low intelligence?
David Hartung
> I would challenge US "patriots" to name a single military action that
> the US military has taken since World War II that really needed to be
> done. Some were less predatory than others (e.g., Bosnia), but how
> many really needed to be done?
Korea
The Berlin Airlift
Vietnam
Grenada
The First Gulf War
The current War On Terrorism.
David Moffitt
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:57:02 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Thom" <toml...@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message
> >news:42112c2f...@news.melbpc.org.au...
> >> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:23:17 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> >> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
> >> >news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been
fighting
> >> >> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans
> >would
> >> >> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
> >> >
> >> >%%%% Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend
this
> >> >country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
> >>
> >> you mean like Bush and Cheney did during Vietnam??
> >
> >%%%% Look on each side of the Congress and the Senate and you can tell.
More
> >Republicans served than leftards did.
> >
>
> Fuck them anyway. The hardest part about voting for John Kerry was
> having to vote for a fabulous war hero.
%%%% If Hanoi John is a "war hero" why is he afraid to sign Form 180?
At least Clinton had had the
> brains to take a runner, like all of the people I know with an IQ over
> 100.
%%%% Both of their intelligence probably wasn't over 100.2 either. :o)
David Moffitt
"David Hartung" <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote in message
news:UGSPd.4110$pY....@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
%%%% He cannot keep all of his lies separated. :o)
>
>
David Moffitt
%%%% It was posted on the net several times in the past week. It is
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Nick Smith (R-Mich.) Air Force 1959-61 Capt.
Vic Snyder (D-Ark.) Marine Corps 1967-69 Cpl.
Floyd D. Spence (R-S.C.) Naval Reserve 1952-88 Capt. Navy 1952-54
John M. Spratt Jr. (D-S.C.) Army 1969-71 Capt.
Pete Stark (D-Calif.) Air Force 1955-57
Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) Air Force 1963-67 Capt.
Bob Stump (R-Ariz.) Navy 1943-46
John Tanner (D-Tenn.) Navy 1968-72 Lt.National Guard 1974-present Lt. Col.
Gene Taylor (D-Miss.) Coast Guard Reserve 1971-84 E-6
Mike Thompson (D-Calif.) Army 1968-69 Sgt.
Edolphus Towns (D-N.Y.) Army 1956-58
Jim Turner (D-Texas) Army 1978 Capt.
Wes Watkins (R-Okla.) Okla. National Guard 1960-67 2nd Lt.
Dave Weldon (R-Fla.) Army Medical Corps 1981-87 Maj. Army Reserve 1987-92
Edward Whitfield (R-Ky.) Army Reserve 1967-73 Lt.
Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) Air Force 1976-80 Capt. Air Force Reserve
1980-present Lt. Col.
Heather A. Wilson (R-N.M.) Air Force 1978-89 Capt.
Frank R. Wolf (R-Va.) Army Reserve 1962-63 Enlisted
C.W. Bill Young (R-Fla.) National Guard 1948-57
Don Young (R-Alaska) Army 1955-57
>
>
Bishop@inthehall.com Bishop
On 13-Feb-2005, "David Hartung" <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote:
> > Fuck them anyway. The hardest part about voting for John Kerry was
> > having to vote for a fabulous war hero. At least Clinton had had the
> > brains to take a runner, like all of the people I know with an IQ over
> > 100.
>
> Are you saying that hose of us who have served are of low intelligence?
Swissy's a card isn't he? He needs to go over to Iraq and tell them
how horrible we are here. Of course he wouldn't be coming back to
tell us about it.
Omega
: >: That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
: >: against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans
would
: >: do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
: >:
: >: From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
: >
: >The democrat party is no longer believes in war, in private gun ownership
: >(assault weapon ban under Clinton), or even male behavior like brawling
: >(look at how liberal teachers kick boys out of school for drawing
pictures
: >of guns, soldiers and put most boys on drugs to reduce their male
behavior).
: >The democrats want the military disbanded and all of our weapons,
including
: >the nukes, handed over to the UN.
:
: what a bunch of crap! Its really funny but I don't know a single
: democrat that was in favor of of the ban and most are shooters like
: myself but I will admit I live in the Colorado/NM area which means
: more shooting sports.
:
: I also don't believe the democrats want the military disbanded they
: just want the rip offs of the military industrial complkex stopped
: from companies like Haliburton.
Then why did the Clinton administration use Haliburton (KBR)? If you go to
the LOGCAP web site, KBR had the contract from 1991 to 1996, DynCorp had
from 1997 to 2001 when Haliburton won it again. And the Clinton
administration moved a lot of civil servant jobs to contractors as both
parties want to go to a system that would have more "patronage". BTW, while
Clinton is no longer president, he set a precedent of getting rid of civil
service jobs in favor of contractors. Any one who works in DC is well aware
of the fact that contractors now "run" the government, that they are in most
jobs in the government (about 9 contractors for every civil servant, making
the number of government workers about 10 million).
http://www.amc.army.mil/logcap/
: >
: >And if the insurgents are all the Iraqi people then why are the targets
the
: >average citizen? Why are the insurgents using KKK tactics in order to
: >control the people?
:
: Why does Bush want gun control in Iraq so these people can't protect
: themselves?
actually it was the State Department (and yes civil servants often do their
own thing, have their own agenda). DOD was against it but State basically
ran the CPA. Now we have a huge shortage of firearms and ammo because the
troops were ordered to destroy so much.
: >Why did the insurgents say that voting was against
: >Allah, that no man can make laws (law comes only from God). Why do they
say
: >that democracy is the same as Satan worship?
:
: Because they are the same nut cases as the protestant fundamentalists
: we have here.
: >
: >Maybe you want the US to become an Islamic republic.
:
: Its no worse than it becomeing a Protestant republic like Fallwell and
: his loonies want. I remind you that the paper that supports Bush the
: Most is owned by Rev Loony Moon.
Well, Falwell is not elected to any leadership post in his church (Southern
Baptists). He was appointed spokesman for conservative Christians by the
media (who are lazy and want cut out figures to use) just like they
appointed Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson to speak for all blacks.
Ever think that the majority of evangelicals do not listen to Falwell or Pat
Robertson? That the media, and you, need such paper tigers?
Omega
: > > %%%% Look on each side of the Congress and the Senate and you can
tell.
: > > More Republicans served than leftards did.
: >
: > It would be really nice if you could prove this.
:
: %%%% It was posted on the net several times in the past week. It is
: something that laftard try to lie about and deny!
I have posted it as well. these folks do not get it, leftists are not
serving in the military. The military is so skewed to the right that they
could be a Rush Limbaugh fan club.
: http://www.fra.org/leg-center-2/106th-congress/106-cong-mil-lst.html
:
: >
: >
:
:
Mitchell Holman
@fe1.columbus.rr.com:
Is that why YOU aren't in Iraq fighting the war you support?
hstitan
and opinion polling site. Make your vote count in cyberspace!!!
Also checkout the interesting photograph of Osama and Ronald Reagan
contained in that site!
"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their
own government."
- U.S. Pres. Thomas Jefferson
Bishop@inthehall.com Bishop
On 13-Feb-2005, Mitchell Holman <ta2een...@comcast.com> wrote:
> >> > Fuck them anyway. The hardest part about voting for John Kerry was
> >> > having to vote for a fabulous war hero. At least Clinton had had the
> >> > brains to take a runner, like all of the people I know with an IQ
> >> > over
> >> > 100.
> >>
> >> Are you saying that hose of us who have served are of low intelligence?
> >
> > Swissy's a card isn't he? He needs to go over to Iraq and tell them
> > how horrible we are here. Of course he wouldn't be coming back to
> > tell us about it.
>
>
> Is that why YOU aren't in Iraq fighting the war you support?
Here we go again... When Klintoon went into Bosnia, did all you
Left-Libby cowards signup? I did my part from 66-70 asshole;
and you???
So according to your demented logic, everyone who supports what
is being done needs to ALL go over there. Is that your line of shit
goober?
Bishop@inthehall.com Bishop
Unless that information comes from Left-Libbies in newsgroups.
David Moffitt
"Mitchell Holman" <ta2een...@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95FCD215...@216.196.97.131...
%%%% By your logic you should be a Vietnam war vet. What did you say your
MOS/AFSC was?
>
>
>
>
>
Julian D.
<moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
>> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>
>%%%% Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend this
>country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
>
>
>>
>> From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
>
>%%%% Democrat leftard are too fukn cowardly to fight. They would fall to
>their knees in front of the enemy and beg for their worthless lives like
>they always have in the past. :o)
They would snivel and say to the terrorists..'but we hate Bush too!
we tried our best to protect you! we tried our best to stop him!'...
And the terrorists would show their gratitude by just slitting their
throats instead of beheading them. The looks of amazement on the
liberals faces with their eyes bugged out would be one of disbelief!
>>
>> ---
>> Stop Elmer Fudd web site: http://www.ElmerFudd.US/
>> Covert text file server: http://www.notserver.com/
>> Scientology crooks: http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
>> FRice Antiwar: http://www.skeptictank.org/antiwar.htm
>> Another Scientology murder: http://PerkinsTragedy.org
>> "An atheist who sucks at the teet of GW Bush is like a
>> chicken rallying for support of Colonel Sanders." -- Turk
>>
>
JD
"On the other hand, I think sometimes I take kind of a delight
in who the critics are."
-President George W. Bush
Time's Person Of The Year
2004
"The course of this nation does not depend on the decisions of
others."
-President George W. Bush
SOA
2003
"... by 2013, payroll taxes will no longer
be sufficient to cover monthly payments. And by 2032, the
trust fund will be exhausted, and Social Security will be
unable to pay out the full benefits older Americans have
been promised."
Bill Clinton
1998 State of the Union
Fredric L. Rice
>"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
>> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>> From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
>I believe that we could expect you to run for the nearest neutral country.
I oppose fascist baby killing invaders -- you do not. Ergo you would
just stand aside and let the US be invaded and taken over, obviously.
Fredric L. Rice
>"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>: That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>: against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
>: do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>: From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
What gave you that insane rightard notion? If the United States were to
be attacked, the US would go to war and Democrats would be there right
along side all other political Parties.
Had this fascist regime launched a war against Saudi Arabia, a great
many Democrats would be all for it since they were the country that
trained, funded, and supplied Bush's corporate buddies that attacked us.
Fredric L. Rice
>"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
>> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend this
>country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
When are you rightards going to start? "USA PATRIOT Act" nullified
everything America stands for and you fucking traitors just stand
there applauding the end to tour rights, liberties, and freedoms.
And to hear you rightards applaud the slaughter of innocent people,
you would stand aside and allow fascist invaders to take over the
United States without a wimper.
Fredric L. Rice
>"Swiss Observer" <dp...@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
>news:gulv01h2f1kv5q4nc...@4ax.com...
>> I would challenge US "patriots" to name a single military action that
>> the US military has taken since World War II that really needed to be
>> done. Some were less predatory than others (e.g., Bosnia), but how
>> many really needed to be done?
>Korea
The US lost.
>The Berlin Airlift
Iraq.
>Vietnam
You lost.
>Grenada
Nobody home.
>The First Gulf War
Saddam invaded Kuwait at Bush #1's invite.
>The current War On Terrorism.
Over 100,000 innocent dead and counting.
You lose again, rightard.
Fredric L. Rice
>On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:31:18 GMT, FR...@SkepticTank.ORG (Fredric
>L. Rice) wrote:
>> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
>> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>soft underbellies to the invaders, then get on their knees and do
>the dirty to please the invaders. I could be wrong; I hope I am.
If they claim they would oppose the invasion of the United States,
they're hypocrits for applauding the invasion of Iraq.
>> From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
>Judging by the comparison of Democrat politicians and Republican
>Politicians, you are of course 100% correct---- it is the
>Democrats who have performed the minitary service in the past, and
>will no doubt do so in the future if it is ever needed.
And they worship a fascist deserter.
Mitchell Holman
@fe1.columbus.rr.com:
>
> On 13-Feb-2005, Mitchell Holman <ta2een...@comcast.com> wrote:
>
>> >> > Fuck them anyway. The hardest part about voting for John Kerry was
>> >> > having to vote for a fabulous war hero. At least Clinton had had
the
>> >> > brains to take a runner, like all of the people I know with an IQ
>> >> > over
>> >> > 100.
>> >>
>> >> Are you saying that hose of us who have served are of low
intelligence?
>> >
>> > Swissy's a card isn't he? He needs to go over to Iraq and tell them
>> > how horrible we are here. Of course he wouldn't be coming back to
>> > tell us about it.
>>
>>
>> Is that why YOU aren't in Iraq fighting the war you support?
>
> Here we go again... When Klintoon went into Bosnia, did all you
> Left-Libby cowards signup? I did my part from 66-70 asshole;
You don't say.
Do you have some proof of that to share with us?
David Moffitt
"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
> "David Hartung" <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote:
>
> >"Swiss Observer" <dp...@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
> >news:gulv01h2f1kv5q4nc...@4ax.com...
> >> I would challenge US "patriots" to name a single military action that
> >> the US military has taken since World War II that really needed to be
> >> done. Some were less predatory than others (e.g., Bosnia), but how
> >> many really needed to be done?
> >Korea
>
> The US lost.
>
> >The Berlin Airlift
>
> Iraq.
>
> >Vietnam
>
> You lost.
>
> >Grenada
>
> Nobody home.
>
> >The First Gulf War
>
> Saddam invaded Kuwait at Bush #1's invite.
>
> >The current War On Terrorism.
>
> Over 100,000 innocent dead and counting.
>
> You lose again, rightard.
%%%% ROTFLMAO! If I could bag up the bullshit you are slinging I could
fertilize a 100 acre farm for 10 years! :o)
David Moffitt
%%%% What branch of service did you join during the Clinton administration
Mitch? MOS/AFSC? So far the proof is your are just another pussy loud
mouthed chickenshit leftard coward Mitch! :o)
>
>
>
David Hartung
"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11109m3...@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>"Swiss Observer" <dp...@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
>>news:gulv01h2f1kv5q4nc...@4ax.com...
>>> I would challenge US "patriots" to name a single military action that
>>> the US military has taken since World War II that really needed to be
>>> done. Some were less predatory than others (e.g., Bosnia), but how
>>> many really needed to be done?
>>Korea
>
> The US lost.
How did the US lose?
>
>>The Berlin Airlift
>
> Iraq.
>
>>Vietnam
>
> You lost.
Who lost?
>
>>Grenada
>
> Nobody home.
>
>>The First Gulf War
>
> Saddam invaded Kuwait at Bush #1's invite.
Please prove this.
>
>>The current War On Terrorism.
>
> Over 100,000 innocent dead and counting.
Please provide proof of your figures, and then explain why we should let
terrorists kill over 2000 of our citizens without responding.
Swiss Observer
Berlin Airlift (not exactly an invasion), okay. None of the others.
David Hartung
"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
> "David Moffitt" <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>>"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>>news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>>> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>>> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans
>>> would
>>> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>>Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend this
>>country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
>
> When are you rightards going to start? "USA PATRIOT Act" nullified
> everything America stands for and you fucking traitors just stand
> there applauding the end to tour rights, liberties, and freedoms.
Please list the rights that the USA Patriot Act eliminated, and give
examples where this has happened.
David Moffitt
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:57:02 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Thom" <toml...@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message
> >news:42112c2f...@news.melbpc.org.au...
> >> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
> >> >news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been
fighting
> >> >> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans
> >would
> >> >> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
> >> >
this
> >> >country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
> >>
> >
More
> >Republicans served than leftards did.
>
> Congress than DEMs? You have been bragging about that lately.
%%%%% Eliminate Republicans to the point that they are equal to the number
of leftards it would still hold true. More Republicans in Congress and the
Senate served in the military than did the cowardly leftards. Facts can be a
bitch to leftards! :o)
>
> THOM
silic...@lycos.com
do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
for America to Al Zaraqawi one minute , then as the tape moved the
liberal would be seen whimpering then shrieking , " It's George Bush
you want, not me ! I didn't do it. I love Islam ! uhhh.. Bless Allah
and Mohammed is a great prophet and his holy man! Do you have a prayer
mat- I'll bow to Mecca... I've always wanted to convert...no I'm not a
liberal..no I hate gays..I never play rock music and don't do
drugs.noo.nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....
Thom
I'm sorry were you talking about Bush and the lies about WMD?
THOM
>
>>
>>
>
>
Thom
<moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>"Thom" <toml...@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message
>news:42112c2f...@news.melbpc.org.au...
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:23:17 GMT, "David Moffitt"
>> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>> >news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>> >> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans
>would
>> >> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>> >
>> >%%%% Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend this
>> >country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
>>
>> you mean like Bush and Cheney did during Vietnam??
>
>%%%% Look on each side of the Congress and the Senate and you can tell. More
>Republicans served than leftards did.
could your small mind possibly think thats because theres more PUGS in
Congress than DEMs? You have been bragging about that lately.
THOM
David Moffitt
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:21:55 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Swiss Observer" <dp...@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
> >> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:57:02 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> >> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Thom" <toml...@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message
> >> >news:42112c2f...@news.melbpc.org.au...
> >> >> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:23:17 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> >> >> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> >> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been
> >fighting
> >> >> >> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many
Americans
> >> >would
> >> >> >> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >%%%% Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend
> >this
> >> >> >country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
> >> >>
> >> >> you mean like Bush and Cheney did during Vietnam??
> >> >
> >> >%%%% Look on each side of the Congress and the Senate and you can
tell.
> >More
> >> >Republicans served than leftards did.
> >> >
> >>
> >> having to vote for a fabulous war hero.
> >
>
> why would we care in alt.politics.bush.
%%%% The subject is in more than one group leftard.
The subject here is the Bush
> crime family and the coward war evader and chickenhawk GWB.
%%%% The subject is what is Honoi John hiding?
If you
> want Kerry to sign a 180 then why not arrange for every member of
> congress to do it at one big party, then invite Bush.
%%%% He swore in the campaign he would but never did. ;o)
he won't come
> of course. I'll bet people on both sides of the floor will have other
> places to be, especially all the PUG draft dodgers from that time.
> Cheney can lead the charge out the back door into the buses out of
> town.
%%%% Nothing you say can change the fact that Honoi John lied. :o)
>
> THOM
> >
> >
> >At least Clinton had had the
> >> brains to take a runner, like all of the people I know with an IQ over
> >> 100.
> >
> >%%%% Both of their intelligence probably wasn't over 100.2 either. :o)
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >> THOM
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >%%%% Democrat leftard are too fukn cowardly to fight. They would
fall
> >to
> >> >> >their knees in front of the enemy and beg for their worthless lives
> >like
> >> >> >they always have in the past. :o)
> >> >
> >> >%%%% I see you agree! :o)
David Moffitt
%%%% We are talking about YOU! :o)
>
> THOM
> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
Thom
I live where I live, I'm retired and plan on enjoying my life. Right
now I'm in Victoria and now I'm seriously looking at New Zealand which
is a fabulous place. Its like Colorado without all the republicans.
I have property up north that other people are using right now.
THOM
>
>
Thom
<moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>"Swiss Observer" <dp...@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
>news:smsv019n26odh4v0m...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:57:02 GMT, "David Moffitt"
>> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Thom" <toml...@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message
>> >news:42112c2f...@news.melbpc.org.au...
>> >> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:23:17 GMT, "David Moffitt"
>> >> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>> >> >news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> >> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been
>fighting
>> >> >> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans
>> >would
>> >> >> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>> >> >
>> >> >%%%% Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend
>this
>> >> >country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
>> >>
>> >> you mean like Bush and Cheney did during Vietnam??
>> >
>> >%%%% Look on each side of the Congress and the Senate and you can tell.
>More
>> >Republicans served than leftards did.
>> >
>>
>> Fuck them anyway. The hardest part about voting for John Kerry was
>> having to vote for a fabulous war hero.
>
>%%%% If Hanoi John is a "war hero" why is he afraid to sign Form 180?
why would we care in alt.politics.bush. The subject here is the Bush
crime family and the coward war evader and chickenhawk GWB. If you
want Kerry to sign a 180 then why not arrange for every member of
congress to do it at one big party, then invite Bush. he won't come
of course. I'll bet people on both sides of the floor will have other
places to be, especially all the PUG draft dodgers from that time.
Cheney can lead the charge out the back door into the buses out of
town.
THOM
>
>
>At least Clinton had had the
>> brains to take a runner, like all of the people I know with an IQ over
>> 100.
>
>%%%% Both of their intelligence probably wasn't over 100.2 either. :o)
>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> THOM
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
>> >> >
Thom
wrote:
>
>
>: >: That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>: >: against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans
>would
>: >: do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>: >:
>: >: From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
>: >
>: >The democrat party is no longer believes in war, in private gun ownership
>: >(assault weapon ban under Clinton), or even male behavior like brawling
>: >(look at how liberal teachers kick boys out of school for drawing
>pictures
>: >of guns, soldiers and put most boys on drugs to reduce their male
>behavior).
>: >The democrats want the military disbanded and all of our weapons,
>including
>: >the nukes, handed over to the UN.
>:
>: what a bunch of crap! Its really funny but I don't know a single
>: democrat that was in favor of of the ban and most are shooters like
>: myself but I will admit I live in the Colorado/NM area which means
>: more shooting sports.
>:
>: I also don't believe the democrats want the military disbanded they
>: just want the rip offs of the military industrial complkex stopped
>: from companies like Haliburton.
>
>Then why did the Clinton administration use Haliburton (KBR)? If you go to
>the LOGCAP web site, KBR had the contract from 1991 to 1996, DynCorp had
>from 1997 to 2001 when Haliburton won it again. And the Clinton
>administration moved a lot of civil servant jobs to contractors as both
>parties want to go to a system that would have more "patronage". BTW, while
>Clinton is no longer president, he set a precedent of getting rid of civil
>service jobs in favor of contractors. Any one who works in DC is well aware
>of the fact that contractors now "run" the government, that they are in most
>jobs in the government (about 9 contractors for every civil servant, making
>the number of government workers about 10 million).
ask me if I care about Clinton. I'm not a democrat and ole Bill is in
the same boat as Cheney in my book...adraft dodger.
THOM
>
>http://www.amc.army.mil/logcap/
>
>: >
>: >And if the insurgents are all the Iraqi people then why are the targets
>the
>: >average citizen? Why are the insurgents using KKK tactics in order to
>: >control the people?
>:
>: Why does Bush want gun control in Iraq so these people can't protect
>: themselves?
>
>actually it was the State Department (and yes civil servants often do their
>own thing, have their own agenda). DOD was against it but State basically
>ran the CPA. Now we have a huge shortage of firearms and ammo because the
>troops were ordered to destroy so much.
>
>: >Why did the insurgents say that voting was against
>: >Allah, that no man can make laws (law comes only from God). Why do they
>say
>: >that democracy is the same as Satan worship?
>:
>: Because they are the same nut cases as the protestant fundamentalists
>: we have here.
>: >
>: >Maybe you want the US to become an Islamic republic.
>:
>: Its no worse than it becomeing a Protestant republic like Fallwell and
>: his loonies want. I remind you that the paper that supports Bush the
>: Most is owned by Rev Loony Moon.
>
>Well, Falwell is not elected to any leadership post in his church (Southern
>Baptists). He was appointed spokesman for conservative Christians by the
>media (who are lazy and want cut out figures to use) just like they
>appointed Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson to speak for all blacks.
>
>Ever think that the majority of evangelicals do not listen to Falwell or Pat
>Robertson? That the media, and you, need such paper tigers?
>
>
>
silic...@lycos.com
serving in the military. The military is so skewed to the right that
they
could be a Rush Limbaugh fan club.
"
They are a Rush Limbaugh fan club. It was played in Iraq over the
military channel, because the troops demanded it.
Julian D.
Rice) wrote:
>"David Moffitt" <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>>"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
>>news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
>>> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been fighting
>>> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many Americans would
>>> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
>>Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend this
>>country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
>
>When are you rightards going to start? "USA PATRIOT Act" nullified
>everything America stands for and you fucking traitors just stand
>there applauding the end to tour rights, liberties, and freedoms.
The laws the Patriot Act consolidated, improved, and organized were
already on the books.
>And to hear you rightards applaud the slaughter of innocent people,
>you would stand aside and allow fascist invaders to take over the
>United States without a wimper.
>
>---
>Stop Elmer Fudd web site: http://www.ElmerFudd.US/
>Covert text file server: http://www.notserver.com/
>Scientology crooks: http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
>FRice Antiwar: http://www.skeptictank.org/antiwar.htm
>Another Scientology murder: http://PerkinsTragedy.org
>"An atheist who sucks at the teet of GW Bush is like a
>chicken rallying for support of Colonel Sanders." -- Turk
David Hartung
"David Moffitt" <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:KgTPd.12158$oO....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...> news:0CSPd.39491$i42....@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
>> It would be really nice if you could prove this.
> http://www.fra.org/leg-center-2/106th-congress/106-cong-mil-lst.html
>
> SENATE MEMBERS with MILITARY SERVICE
> (106th CONGRESS)
By my figures, 16 Democrats have served, and 24 Republicans have served. The
difference between the two is well outside the Republican margin of control/
> HOUSE MEMBERS with MILITARY SERVICE
> (106th CONGRESS)
By my figures, 52 Democrats have served, and 85 Republicans have served.
Once again, the difference is well outside the Republican margin of control.
It seems that Democrat claims that Republicans do not serve are once again
proven wrong.
jbeck
What, the Republican Landlord kick you out for nonpayment?
>
jbeck
<silic...@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1108387965.2...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Do you blame them? I tuned into rush a few weeks ago for about an hour
(right after someone called me a dittohead...then I realized I hadn't
listened to him in over a year). Anyway, he is one of the few in media who
is actively giving them positive support and saying nice things about them.
Human nature being what it is, would I rather listen to someone tell me what
an ass I am, and accuse me of raping, murdering, <insert whatever ad nausa
left accusation you want here>, or listen to someone talk about the positive
side of what they are doing? If that's what they want to listen to, then so
be it!
jbeck
Yea, the Swiss are so much smarter. Just let various thugs from around the
world use your banks and do business through your country and let everyone
else duke it out. Then pooh, pooh people for taking a stand while you rake
in the cash.
MFOgilvie
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Absolutely nothing that deseves to be seen, as usual.
Swiss Observer
wrote:
>
>"Swiss Observer" <dp...@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
>news:2ir0111l8uap0k1hj...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:59:48 GMT, "David Hartung"
>> <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Swiss Observer" <dp...@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
>>>news:gulv01h2f1kv5q4nc...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> I would challenge US "patriots" to name a single military action that
>>>> the US military has taken since World War II that really needed to be
>>>> done. Some were less predatory than others (e.g., Bosnia), but how
>>>> many really needed to be done?
>>>
>>>Korea
>>>
>>>The Berlin Airlift
>>>
>>>Vietnam
>>>
>>>Grenada
>>>
>>>The First Gulf War
>>>
>>>The current War On Terrorism.
>>>
>>
>> Berlin Airlift (not exactly an invasion), okay. None of the others.
>
>Yea, the Swiss are so much smarter. Just let various thugs from around the
>world use your banks and do business through your country and let everyone
>else duke it out. Then pooh, pooh people for taking a stand while you rake
>in the cash.
>
That's one of the theories on how the Swiss were the only Europeans to
make it through WWII without getting fucked over awfully, and there's
certainly a lot of truth in it. Mind you, though, the Swiss people
were eating dirt at that time -- it was the Swiss bankers, then as
now, who were "raking in the cash", as you say.
It's pretty hard to argue against such a successful way of not getting
your ass kicked!
Geo
Well, they did manage to stay out of two world wars while they were
directly in the center of the action. I'd say that's pretty smart.
Thom
Sounds like their version of Berlin Betty or Lord Hauhau.
THOM
>
Thom
<moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
then stop cross posting
>
>The subject here is the Bush
>> crime family and the coward war evader and chickenhawk GWB.
>
>%%%% The subject is what is Honoi John hiding?
Why would anyone over the age of six care about Kerry anymore. Its
Bush thats screwing up the world and like Gore Vedal said last night,
is leading the country to bankruptcy.
>
> If you
>> want Kerry to sign a 180 then why not arrange for every member of
>> congress to do it at one big party, then invite Bush.
>
>%%%% He swore in the campaign he would but never did. ;o)
and wheres Bush's paper? Seems at this point the Pentagon can't even
prove he was ever in the ANG at all! Why out of 20 million servicemen
only Bush's records are missing?
>
> he won't come
>> of course. I'll bet people on both sides of the floor will have other
>> places to be, especially all the PUG draft dodgers from that time.
>> Cheney can lead the charge out the back door into the buses out of
>> town.
>
>%%%% Nothing you say can change the fact that Honoi John lied. :o)
nothing you can say will make Bush and Cheney anything but cowards and
liars. By the way we're still waiting for those pesky WMD.
THOM
Thom
<moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
and always to goose steppers. Like the truth Bush lied about WMD and
people died. Like the fact he'se a coward and avoided Nam plus went
AWOL twice, then got grounded for not taking a drug test. And this is
your fuhrer? You love this dry drunk of a fool?
When I see neo-con brats serving in Iraq get back to us please.
THOM
>
>
>
>>
>> THOM
>
>
Thom
<moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
the fact that Bush lied to the American people about WMD in order to
attack Iraq. Its an impeachable offense but of course the new
Reichstag Congress will never do it, much like they will never repeal
gun control which they have been lieing about since 1968.
THOM
>
>
>>
>> THOM
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Thom
wrote:
I am the landlord. And since I'm not a republican I don't charge
criminally high rents
THOM
>>
>
>
David Hartung
> the fact that Bush lied to the American people about WMD in order to
> attack Iraq. Its an impeachable offense but of course the new
> Reichstag Congress will never do it, much like they will never repeal
> gun control which they have been lieing about since 1968.
Your characterization of Bush as a liar is purely subjective, and not
backed up by fact, thus ther has been no impeachable offense.
Bishop@inthehall.com Bishop
On 13-Feb-2005, Mitchell Holman <ta2een...@comcast.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Fuck them anyway. The hardest part about voting for John Kerry was
> >> >> > having to vote for a fabulous war hero. At least Clinton had had
> the
> >> >> > brains to take a runner, like all of the people I know with an IQ
> >> >> > over
> >> >> > 100.
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you saying that hose of us who have served are of low
> intelligence?
> >> >
> >> > Swissy's a card isn't he? He needs to go over to Iraq and tell them
> >> > how horrible we are here. Of course he wouldn't be coming back to
> >> > tell us about it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Is that why YOU aren't in Iraq fighting the war you support?
> >
> > Here we go again... When Klintoon went into Bosnia, did all you
> > Left-Libby cowards signup? I did my part from 66-70 asshole;
>
>
>
> You don't say.
>
> Do you have some proof of that to share with us?
Like AFSN AF11702563, Sgt, 385th Aero Squadron TAC, Litton LN-12 Intertial
Guidance Systems Repairman, F-4C, F-4D, and F4E's. Honorable discharge
12/19/1970 from George AFB, CA. You want me to FAX you my DD214 too
asshole?
Mitchell Holman
@fe2.columbus.rr.com:
Sorry, that is not verifiable without a full name
(http://www.afpc.randolph.af.mil/IM/AFLocator&FOIA/afwwloc.htm)
Please provide that and we can proceed.
Swiss Observer
Is that circular logic?
David Hartung
Not at all. When the anti-Bush people can prove tht the Bush Administration
deliberately lied to take us to war, then perhaps we can discuss
impeachment.
David Hartung
"Mitchell Holman" <ta2een...@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95FDB0D2...@216.196.97.131...
He has already provided more that you ever have. Unless you are willing to
return the favor, shut up.
Bishop@inthehall.com Bishop
On 14-Feb-2005, Mitchell Holman <ta2een...@comcast.com> wrote:
> Sorry, that is not verifiable without a full name
> (http://www.afpc.randolph.af.mil/IM/AFLocator&FOIA/afwwloc.htm)
>
> Please provide that and we can proceed.
"The AF Worldwide Locator only has location information on individuals who
are currently receiving compensation from the USAF (Active duty, Guard,
Reserve, Retired and Civil Service Personnel). If the individual has
separated from the AF, no information is available."
I tired to find a friend that I was in with. They told me they do not
keep those records. Nice try.
genomega
> the fact that Bush lied to the American people about WMD in order to
> attack Iraq. Its an impeachable offense but of course the new
> Reichstag Congress will never do it, much like they will never repeal
> gun control which they have been lieing about since 1968.
>
> THOM
Steven L.
> I'd guess that many Americans of both sides of the aisle would fight
> bravely to defend their country.
Judging by the reaction of numerous hard-core left-wingers to 9-11, you
are WRONG. Noam Chomsky wouldn't act to defend this country even if the
U.S. were in the process of being nuked off the face of the earth.
> But they'd have to get back into the
> habit -- for the past century they've only been fighting to fuck up
> other people's countries.
>
> It's probably not too much to say that since at least 1946 the US
> military has been serving, not for its country, but as paramilitary
> mercenaries for the corporate warlords seeking to improve their
> markets overseas.
It's far too much to say, sir--because like a lot of left-wingers, you
just don't acknowledge the morality and principles of capitalism. I
regard capitalism as not only more efficient than communism but far more
MORAL than communism. Private corporations are far more moral than
Communist apparatchiks. Capitalism is simply economic freedom, rather
than a command economy in which the state or society is in charge of
everything an individual human being works for and needs. And that is
what the U.S. fought to preserve in the 20th century. And we succeeded.
>
> I would challenge US "patriots"
Take the goddamn quotes off that word.
I love my country.
You ran away from it to Europe, where you have fun sticking it to
America day after day after day.
What kind of "patriot" are YOU?
To what nation or nations do you owe your loyalty and love these days?
> to name a single military action that
> the US military has taken since World War II that really needed to be
> done. Some were less predatory than others (e.g., Bosnia), but how
> many really needed to be done?
Here are a few that definitely needed to be done:
Korea (1950): Military intervention to stop naked Communist aggression
against South Korea; authorized by the U.N. Security Council
Cuban Missile Crisis (1960): U.S. Navy blockades Cuba to force USSR to
withdraw their nuclear missiles from Cuba. USSR eventually agrees and
U.S. Navy monitors the withdrawal of Soviet missiles, after which the
Navy withdrew.
Dominican Republic (1965): U.S. Marines intervened to evacuate U.S.
citizens from the violence there. (Over 1,000 foreign civilians were
killed but the U.S. managed to protect its own citizens) Eventually,
23,000 U.S. Marines moved in to restore order until a multinational
force created by the Organization of American States (OAS) could take
over. Within a year, free elections were held in the Dominican
Republic, and U.S. forces went home.
Achille Lauro Incident (1985): Palestinian terrorists hijacked the
cruise ship Achille Lauro, murdering one American citizen. Egypt caved
in to their demands and put the terrorists on a 737 jetliner bound for
Tunisia where the terrorists would escape. President Reagan orders U.S.
Navy fighters to intercept the airliner and force it to divert to Italy.
Italian authorities tried and convicted four of the hijackers.
Gulf War (1991): Military intervention to stop Saddam's aggression
against Kuwait, a sovereign member of the U.N.; authorized by the U.N.
Security Council.
The U.S. learned the lessons of Abyssinia 1935, Manchuria 1937, and
Munich 1938, very well--that the world cannot long survive half-slave
and half-free, and that collective security is worthless without
military force. It is Europeans who forgot those lessons. And it is
the worldwide left-wing with its fatuous infatuation with socialism that
has "decided" that any nation that actively promotes capitalism, like
the U.S. is evil.
The USSR was out to subvert the entire world to Communism and administer
a worldwide Marxist globe. They made no secret of it; it was basic to
their entire ideology. The U.S. stopped them cold, and created a world
in which economic freedom rather than Marxist tyranny is dominant. The
end of Marxism is as great a triumph of human freedom as the end of Nazism.
Hope this helps.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email: sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Steven L.
Swiss Observer wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:59:48 GMT, "David Hartung"
> <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote:
>
>
>>"Swiss Observer" <dp...@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
>>news:gulv01h2f1kv5q4nc...@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>>I would challenge US "patriots" to name a single military action that
>>>the US military has taken since World War II that really needed to be
>>>done. Some were less predatory than others (e.g., Bosnia), but how
>>>many really needed to be done?
>>
>>Korea
>>
>>The Berlin Airlift
>>
>>Vietnam
>>
>>Grenada
>>
>>The First Gulf War
>>
>>The current War On Terrorism.
>>
>
>
> Berlin Airlift (not exactly an invasion), okay. None of the others.
The failure to kick Saddam out of Kuwait (a sovereign member of the
U.N.) would have destroyed the U.N. just as the failure to kick
Mussolini out of Abyssinia and the failure to kick Japan out of
Manchuria killed the League of Nations.
Ever think about that?
BTW: Military action in Korea was authorized by the U.N. Security
Council. What was the U.S. supposed to do then, opt out?
Steven L.
> That's one of the theories on how the Swiss were the only Europeans to
> make it through WWII without getting fucked over awfully, and there's
> certainly a lot of truth in it. Mind you, though, the Swiss people
> were eating dirt at that time -- it was the Swiss bankers, then as
> now, who were "raking in the cash", as you say.
>
> It's pretty hard to argue against such a successful way of not getting
> your ass kicked!
Oh, I can argue against it real easily.
Just one word: "Holocaust"
The Swiss stance on neutrality in WW2 required them to basically ignore
Hitler's atrocities. There was a lot of money piling up in Nazi
accounts in Swiss banks that consisted of money stolen from the Jews
before they were gassed. Some of those accounts were only revealed long
after WW2 ended, and the money finally returned to the surviving
relatives of those murdered Jews.
And that's the problem. The Swiss bankers made money off of genocide.
Which to me makes them guilty of crimes against humanity.
Gary DeWaay
> >
> >
> > You don't say.
> >
> > Do you have some proof of that to share with us?
>
> Like AFSN AF11702563, Sgt, 385th Aero Squadron TAC, Litton LN-12 Intertial
> Guidance Systems Repairman, F-4C, F-4D, and F4E's. Honorable discharge
> 12/19/1970 from George AFB, CA. You want me to FAX you my DD214 too
> asshole?
>
Irrelevant. They are taking retired military up to 70 years old right
now.
--
Gary
If we are completely getting out of Iraq in 2006, we were there for
democracy. If we are still in Iraq in 2007, we are there for the oil.
Thom
wrote:
of what? Gun control? Simple, the PUGs have been bleeting since 68
about gun control yet with all the republican administrations we still
have it. Bush did nothing for 4 years and will do nothing for the
next 4 years because they don't want us to be armed as the founding
fathers intended. Gore Vedal is right, Bush is a Tyrant or as much as
one can be under our erroding system.
THOM
>
>
Thom
wheres the WMD?...still waiting
wheres the yellow cake?...still waiting
wheres the nukes?...still waiting
wheres the tubes?...still waiting
wheres the icbms?...still waiting
where Bin Laden?...still waiting
Now Bush tries to blame it on the CIA while at the same time listening
to them for what he wants to hear about Iran.
THOM
PS: Loved Gore Vedals interview so much last night I'm going to buy
his book and gold plate it!
>
>
Thom
<dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote:
>
>"Swiss Observer" <dp...@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
>news:fcd2115p8cftipodf...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:06:11 GMT, "David Hartung"
>> <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Thom" <toml...@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message
>>>news:42127b50...@news.melbpc.org.au...
>>>
>>>> the fact that Bush lied to the American people about WMD in order to
>>>> attack Iraq. Its an impeachable offense but of course the new
>>>> Reichstag Congress will never do it, much like they will never repeal
>>>> gun control which they have been lieing about since 1968.
>>>
>>>Your characterization of Bush as a liar is purely subjective, and not
>>>backed up by fact, thus ther has been no impeachable offense.
>>>
>> Is that circular logic?
>
>Not at all. When the anti-Bush people can prove tht the Bush Administration
>deliberately lied to take us to war, then perhaps we can discuss
>impeachment.
considering the $70 million witch hunt the PUGS went on over Clintons
BJ's I'd say its easy. And of course the PUGS will NEVER do anything
about gun control. Reagan, Bush and Bush are all talk. Now the PUGS
have control and can pass anything but since they love gun control I
expect more not less.
THOM
>
>
Bishop@inthehall.com Bishop
On 14-Feb-2005, Gary DeWaay <dewaay2...@sio.midco.net> wrote:
> > > You don't say.
> > >
> > > Do you have some proof of that to share with us?
> >
> > Like AFSN AF11702563, Sgt, 385th Aero Squadron TAC, Litton LN-12
> > Intertial
> > Guidance Systems Repairman, F-4C, F-4D, and F4E's. Honorable discharge
> > 12/19/1970 from George AFB, CA. You want me to FAX you my DD214 too
> > asshole?
> >
>
>
> Irrelevant. They are taking retired military up to 70 years old right
> now.
Bullshit. You're referring to people who are IN the reserves. Name someone
>=70 that "ENLISTED". What you don't understand (and of course, how
would you, since you have never been in), is that once you have been in,
it becomes a RE-ENLISTMENT; which they will not allow if you are over
36. RE-ENLIST age == ENLIST age goober.
Just like posting that site. If you were familiar with the military, you
would have know that you cannot look up records of people who
did not RE-ENLIST. Yes, you can find retired officers. But only if you
have the right. That means cops, FBI, etc. YOU, fortunately, do not
count.
But then Left-Libby cowards are totally unfamiliar with anything to do
with serving their country. They are EXCELLENT at tearing it down,
but worthless in performing any service to it other than with their
big-ass MOUTH. Ergo..........
LEFT-LIBBY = COWARD = NO BALLS
You should try it, it would make a MAN out of you. Again, something
you are totally unfamiliar with.
Bishop@inthehall.com Bishop
On 14-Feb-2005, "Steven L." <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
<snip>
> The Swiss stance on neutrality in WW2 required them to basically ignore
> Hitler's atrocities. There was a lot of money piling up in Nazi
> accounts in Swiss banks that consisted of money stolen from the Jews
> before they were gassed. Some of those accounts were only revealed long
> after WW2 ended, and the money finally returned to the surviving
> relatives of those murdered Jews.
>
> And that's the problem. The Swiss bankers made money off of genocide.
> Which to me makes them guilty of crimes against humanity.
Hey Steve, the Swiss did do some underground fighting against the Germans.
Maybe not officially, but there were some small militias doing some damage.
I know the government iteself never sponsored the actions though.
Bishop@inthehall.com Bishop
On 14-Feb-2005, Gary DeWaay <dewaay2...@sio.midco.net> wrote:
> Irrelevant. They are taking retired military up to 70 years old right
> now.
Not irrelevant. They most certainly are not. Your ignorance is expected.
silic...@lycos.com
Of course I don't blame them for wanting to listen to Rush.
However, I do blame the democrats in congress who wanted to put a stop
to it.
You recall the controversy? LOL
On the downside- since the radio network they have is supposed to be a
"cross section of America" by congressonal law-- NPR was piped in as
well.(ty demorats)
Now imagine that- you're over there giving your all for the US and the
world, and some slimebag loser gets on and starts slamming it all.
"Human nature being what it is, would I rather listen to someone tell
me what
an ass I am, and accuse me of raping, murdering, <insert whatever ad
nausa
left accusation you want here>, or listen to someone talk about the
positive
side of what they are doing? "
Exactly- but demorats wanted Rush squashed, so they could lower morale
by law.
Wonderful way to support the troops.
Demorats aren't traitors- we just think they are.
David Moffitt
>
> "David Moffitt" <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> news:KgTPd.12158$oO....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...> > news:0CSPd.39491$i42....@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
>
> >> It would be really nice if you could prove this.
> > http://www.fra.org/leg-center-2/106th-congress/106-cong-mil-lst.html
> >
> > SENATE MEMBERS with MILITARY SERVICE
> > (106th CONGRESS)
>
> By my figures, 16 Democrats have served, and 24 Republicans have served.
The
> difference between the two is well outside the Republican margin of
control/
>
> > HOUSE MEMBERS with MILITARY SERVICE
> > (106th CONGRESS)
>
> By my figures, 52 Democrats have served, and 85 Republicans have served.
> Once again, the difference is well outside the Republican margin of
control.
>
> It seems that Democrat claims that Republicans do not serve are once again
> proven wrong.
%%%% You got it!! :o)
>
>
silic...@lycos.com
about gun control yet with all the republican administrations we still
have it. "
Well, congress makes the laws as far as I recall there Thom.
When have the republicans, or the democrats for that matter had a
supermajority in either house, let alone both ?
A little committee hold up- a nice filibuster here or there- a few
backroom pressure points- and neither party can rule- it's been that
way my whole life, hasn't it ?
Is the republican lead in house and senate far less thatn the democrats
enjoyed just recently for 30-40 years?
Certainly that's my impression.
Either way- they can't bust the bank with a few more than 50 in the
Senate - they need minimum 60 - 66-75 -
Then you have to account for the occassional district must go other way
state-.
This whole idea of the president making the law is not really happenin
either.
Closer is the judiciary to fiat tyranny.
If it does, let me know, then you and I had better quit fighting with
eachother.
silic...@lycos.com
And of course the PUGS will NEVER do anything
about gun control.
As I understand it the assault weapons ban was lifted. Bells ringing
yet THOM?
Reagan, Bush and Bush are all talk. Now the PUGS
have control and can pass anything
(yeah sure- thats why ever judge got in that Bush nominated LOL)
but since they love gun control I
expect more not less.
Well, you had better hope you're right.
Bleeding heart libs aren't the safest sort of American nowadays *lol*
David Moffitt
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:08:54 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Thom" <toml...@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message
> >> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:21:55 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> >> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Swiss Observer" <dp...@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
> >> >> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:57:02 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Thom" <toml...@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message
> >> >> >> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:23:17 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> >> >> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been
> >> >fighting
> >> >> >> >> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many
> >Americans
> >> >> >would
> >> >> >> >> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
> >> >> >> >
defend
> >> >this
> >> >> >> >country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> you mean like Bush and Cheney did during Vietnam??
> >> >> >
> >> >> >%%%% Look on each side of the Congress and the Senate and you can
> >tell.
> >> >More
> >> >> >Republicans served than leftards did.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> having to vote for a fabulous war hero.
> >> >
> >>
> >> why would we care in alt.politics.bush.
> >
> >%%%% The subject is in more than one group leftard.
>
> then stop cross posting
> >
> >The subject here is the Bush
> >> crime family and the coward war evader and chickenhawk GWB.
> >
> >%%%% The subject is what is Honoi John hiding?
>
> Why would anyone over the age of six care about Kerry anymore. Its
> Bush thats screwing up the world and like Gore Vedal said last night,
> is leading the country to bankruptcy.
> >
> > If you
> >> want Kerry to sign a 180 then why not arrange for every member of
> >> congress to do it at one big party, then invite Bush.
> >
> >%%%% He swore in the campaign he would but never did. ;o)
>
> and wheres Bush's paper? Seems at this point the Pentagon can't even
> prove he was ever in the ANG at all! Why out of 20 million servicemen
> only Bush's records are missing?
> >
> > he won't come
> >> of course. I'll bet people on both sides of the floor will have other
> >> places to be, especially all the PUG draft dodgers from that time.
> >> Cheney can lead the charge out the back door into the buses out of
> >> town.
> >
> >%%%% Nothing you say can change the fact that Honoi John lied. :o)
> nothing you can say will make Bush and Cheney anything but cowards and
> liars.
%%%% Bush is President of the United State of America. Cheney is
Vice-President of the United States of America. Honoi John Kerry is just a
(bitter) Senator that lost. John Edwards is a Senator who lost that will be
sent home to rural N.C.
By the way we're still waiting for those pesky WMD.
%%%% Like the majority of American they do not matter and were considered to
be a mistake made due to poor information. Remember President Bush was
re-elected when the Leftards were pounding the table about it every day in
the campaign. Guess what Thom ---- They didn't give a shit! :o)
>
> THOM
> >
> >>
> >> THOM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >At least Clinton had had the
> >> >> brains to take a runner, like all of the people I know with an IQ
over
> >> >> 100.
> >> >
> >> >%%%% Both of their intelligence probably wasn't over 100.2 either.
:o)
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >> THOM
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >%%%% Democrat leftard are too fukn cowardly to fight. They would
> >fall
> >> >to
> >> >> >> >their knees in front of the enemy and beg for their worthless
lives
> >> >like
> >> >> >> >they always have in the past. :o)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >%%%% I see you agree! :o)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> ---
> >> >> >> >> Stop Elmer Fudd web site: http://www.ElmerFudd.US/
> >> >> >> >> Covert text file server: http://www.notserver.com/
> >> >> >> >> Scientology crooks: http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
> >> >> >> >> FRice Antiwar: http://www.skeptictank.org/antiwar.htm
> >> >> >> >> Another Scientology murder: http://PerkinsTragedy.org
> >> >> >> >> "An atheist who sucks at the teet of GW Bush is like a
> >> >> >> >> chicken rallying for support of Colonel Sanders." -- Turk
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
David Moffitt
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:05:57 GMT, "David Moffitt"> >news:4211d956...@news.melbpc.org.au...
> >> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:57:02 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> >> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Thom" <toml...@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message
> >> >news:42112c2f...@news.melbpc.org.au...
> >> >> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:23:17 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> >> >> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> >> That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been
> >fighting
> >> >> >> against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many
Americans
> >> >would
> >> >> >> do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >%%%% Just like in Iraq you could depend on conservatives to defend
> >this
> >> >> >country while the sniveling leftard pussy cowards hide. :o)
> >> >>
> >> >> you mean like Bush and Cheney did during Vietnam??
> >> >
> >> >%%%% Look on each side of the Congress and the Senate and you can
tell.
> >More
> >> >Republicans served than leftards did.
> >>
> >> Congress than DEMs? You have been bragging about that lately.
> >
> >%%%%% Eliminate Republicans to the point that they are equal to the
number
> >of leftards it would still hold true. More Republicans in Congress and
the
> >Senate served in the military than did the cowardly leftards. Facts can
be a
> >bitch to leftards! :o)
>
> and always to goose steppers.
%%%% Well if you want to call yourself that go ahead. ;o)
Like the truth Bush lied about WMD
%%%% The majority of people really don't give a shit about the WMDs.
and
> people died. Like the fact he'se a coward and avoided Nam plus went
> AWOL twice, then got grounded for not taking a drug test.
%%%% Proof? Place it here____________________________ :o)
And this is
> your fuhrer?
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He postulated that as the length of a discussion thread grows, the
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You love this dry drunk of a fool?
>
> When I see neo-con brats serving in Iraq get back to us please.
>
> THOM
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> THOM
> >
> >
>
Gary DeWaay
>
> > Irrelevant. They are taking retired military up to 70 years old right
> > now.
>
> Not irrelevant. They most certainly are not. Your ignorance is expected.
>
Ok, you're right. 59.
...quote....
Sgt. William Chaney, 59, of Schaumburg, Ill., was called up with his Army
National Guard unit earlier this year and become the oldest soldier to die
in Iraq in May after being evacuated for an emergency operation.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/256173p-219367c.html
...end quote....
David Moffitt
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:10:09 GMT, "David Moffitt"> >news:4211dad8...@news.melbpc.org.au...
> >> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:24:25 GMT, "David Moffitt"
> >> <moff...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"David Hartung" <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:44:22 GMT, "Omega" <2121(d)@insightbb.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>"Fredric L. Rice" <FR...@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
> >> >> >>news:110vhrf...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >> >>: That brings up another question. The people of Iraq have been
> >> >fighting
> >> >> >>: against these fascist monsters bravely. I wonder how many
> >Americans
> >> >> >>would
> >> >> >>: do the same if their country was invaded by mass murderers.
> >> >> >>: From the looks of things, only Democrats would fight back.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>The democrat party is no longer believes in war, in private gun
> >> >ownership
> >> >> >>(assault weapon ban under Clinton), or even male behavior like
> >brawling
> >> >> >>(look at how liberal teachers kick boys out of school for drawing
> >> >pictures
> >> >> >>of guns, soldiers and put most boys on drugs to reduce their male
> >> >> >>behavior).
> >> >> >>The democrats want the military disbanded and all of our weapons,
> >> >> >>including
> >> >> >>the nukes, handed over to the UN.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > what a bunch of crap! Its really funny but I don't know a single
> >> >> > democrat that was in favor of of the ban and most are shooters
like
> >> >> > myself but I will admit I live in the Colorado/NM area which means
> >> >> > more shooting sports.
> >> >>
> >> >> I thought that you had moved to Australia, or do I have you confused
> >with
> >> >> someone else?
> >> >
> >> >%%%% He cannot keep all of his lies separated. :o)
> >>
> >> I'm sorry were you talking about Bush and the lies about WMD?
> >
> >%%%% We are talking about YOU! :o)
>
> the fact that Bush lied to the American people about WMD in order to
> attack Iraq. Its an impeachable offense
%%%% The majority of the people re-elected him! Imagine that. :o)
but of course the new
> Reichstag
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He postulated that as the length of a discussion thread grows, the
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The custom has evolved that the first party to utter "Hitler" or "Nazi" has
lost the discussion, and the thread terminates.
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Congress will never do it, much like they will never repeal
> gun control which they have been lieing about since 1968.
>
> THOM
> >
> >
> >>
> >> THOM
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Gary DeWaay
>
> On 14-Feb-2005, Gary DeWaay <dewaay2...@sio.midco.net> wrote:
>
> > > > You don't say.
> > > >
> > > > Do you have some proof of that to share with us?
> > >
> > > Like AFSN AF11702563, Sgt, 385th Aero Squadron TAC, Litton LN-12
> > > Intertial
> > > Guidance Systems Repairman, F-4C, F-4D, and F4E's. Honorable discharge
> > > 12/19/1970 from George AFB, CA. You want me to FAX you my DD214 too
> > > asshole?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Irrelevant. They are taking retired military up to 70 years old right
> > now.
>
> Bullshit. You're referring to people who are IN the reserves. Name someone
> >=70 that "ENLISTED". What you don't understand (and of course, how
> would you, since you have never been in), is that once you have been in,
> it becomes a RE-ENLISTMENT; which they will not allow if you are over
> 36. RE-ENLIST age == ENLIST age goober.
>
> Just like posting that site. If you were familiar with the military, you
> would have know that you cannot look up records of people who
> did not RE-ENLIST. Yes, you can find retired officers. But only if you
> have the right. That means cops, FBI, etc. YOU, fortunately, do not
> count.
I'm sure there are civilian positions over there that need your help
Bishop.
>
> But then Left-Libby cowards are totally unfamiliar with anything to do
> with serving their country. They are EXCELLENT at tearing it down,
> but worthless in performing any service to it other than with their
> big-ass MOUTH. Ergo..........
>
> LEFT-LIBBY = COWARD = NO BALLS
>
> You should try it, it would make a MAN out of you. Again, something
> you are totally unfamiliar with.
>
Why would I enlist in a war I do not support? Are you insane? It would
be akin to me screaming, slobbering down my chin (such as above) at an
anti-abortion person to go out and have an abortion.
Do you always have such problems with simple logic?
Bishop@inthehall.com Bishop
On 14-Feb-2005, Gary DeWaay <dewaay2...@sio.midco.net> wrote:
> > > > > You don't say.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you have some proof of that to share with us?
> > > >
> > > > Like AFSN AF11702563, Sgt, 385th Aero Squadron TAC, Litton LN-12
> > > > Intertial
> > > > Guidance Systems Repairman, F-4C, F-4D, and F4E's. Honorable
> > > > discharge
> > > > 12/19/1970 from George AFB, CA. You want me to FAX you my DD214 too
> > > > asshole?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Irrelevant. They are taking retired military up to 70 years old right
> > > now.
> >
> > Bullshit. You're referring to people who are IN the reserves. Name
> > someone
> > >=70 that "ENLISTED". What you don't understand (and of course, how
> > would you, since you have never been in), is that once you have been in,
> > it becomes a RE-ENLISTMENT; which they will not allow if you are over
> > 36. RE-ENLIST age == ENLIST age goober.
> >
> > Just like posting that site. If you were familiar with the military, you
> > would have know that you cannot look up records of people who
> > did not RE-ENLIST. Yes, you can find retired officers. But only if you
> > have the right. That means cops, FBI, etc. YOU, fortunately, do not
> > count.
>
>
> I'm sure there are civilian positions over there that need your help
> Bishop.
>
Unless I'm WITH the military....uh-uh. I'm not that stupid. Either take
me with you or I ain't goin.
>
> >
> > But then Left-Libby cowards are totally unfamiliar with anything to do
> > with serving their country. They are EXCELLENT at tearing it down,
> > but worthless in performing any service to it other than with their
> > big-ass MOUTH. Ergo..........
> >
> > LEFT-LIBBY = COWARD = NO BALLS
> >
> > You should try it, it would make a MAN out of you. Again, something
> > you are totally unfamiliar with.
> >
>
>
> Why would I enlist in a war I do not support? Are you insane? It would
> be akin to me screaming, slobbering down my chin (such as above) at an
> anti-abortion person to go out and have an abortion.
>
> Do you always have such problems with simple logic?
Tis your country too banana-breath; unless you plan on moving over
with your buddies in the middle east. Too bad they don't start the
draft again. I would laugh my ass off if you go drafted. My bet is
you'd run to Canada. Then you could meet up with all the rest
of your Left-Libby cowards up there.
Mitchell Holman
news:MPG.1c7b1e687...@news.midco.net:
Of course he has problems with simple logic.
That is what makes him a conservative.....;)
Mitchell Holman
@fe2.columbus.rr.com:
Evasion noted. So why aren't you over there
supporting the war you support?
Mitchell Holman
@fe2.columbus.rr.com:
Retired Army colonel, 70, sent to Afghanistan
Gannett News Service
12/11/2004
Dr. John Caulfield thought it had to be a mistake when the
Army asked him to return to active duty. After all, he's 70
years old and had already retired - twice. He left the Army
in 1980 and private practice two years ago.
"My first reaction was disbelief," Caulfield said. "It never
occurred to me that they would call a 70-year-old."
In fact, he was so sure it was an error that he ignored the
postcards and telephone messages asking if he would be willing
to volunteer for active duty to "backfill" somewhere on the
East Coast, Europe or Hawaii. That would be OK, he thought.
It would release active duty oral surgeons from those areas
to go to combat zones in Iraq or Afghanistan.
But then the orders came for him to go to Afghanistan.
Today, Caulfield, a colonel from Satellite Beach, Fla., is
an example of how the continuing demands of keeping ground
troops in Afghanistan and Iraq are forcing the military to
go to extraordinary measures to keep its ranks filled. He's
attending to patients - U.S. troops, Afghan soldiers and
civilians - at the Army's 325th Field Hospital in Bagram,
Afghanistan. He is one of about 100 over the age of 60 known
to be serving. The Department of Defense couldn't provide
exact figures.
http://www.marionstar.com/news/stories/20041211/localnews/1731211.html
Bishop@inthehall.com Bishop
On 14-Feb-2005, Mitchell Holman <ta2een...@comcast.com> wrote:
> > Tis your country too banana-breath; unless you plan on moving over
> > with your buddies in the middle east. Too bad they don't start the
> > draft again. I would laugh my ass off if you go drafted. My bet is
> > you'd run to Canada. Then you could meet up with all the rest
> > of your Left-Libby cowards up there.
>
>
> Evasion noted. So why aren't you over there
> supporting the war you support?
...and why aren't you over there supporting the terrorists you
support.
Mitchell Holman
@fe1.columbus.rr.com:
>
>
> On 14-Feb-2005, Mitchell Holman <ta2een...@comcast.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, that is not verifiable without a full name
>> (http://www.afpc.randolph.af.mil/IM/AFLocator&FOIA/afwwloc.htm)
>>
>> Please provide that and we can proceed.
>
>
> "The AF Worldwide Locator only has location information on individuals
who
> are currently receiving compensation from the USAF (Active duty, Guard,
> Reserve, Retired and Civil Service Personnel). If the individual has
> separated from the AF, no information is available."
>
> I tired to find a friend that I was in with. They told me they do not
> keep those records. Nice try.
If you are afraid to post the info needed
to prove your claims whose fault is that?
Mitchell Holman
@fe2.columbus.rr.com:
>
> "Mitchell Holman" <ta2een...@comcast.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns95FDB0D2...@216.196.97.131...
>> "Bishop" <The Bis...@InTheHall.Com> wrote in news:1caQd.26052$XY5.10417
>> @fe2.columbus.rr.com:
>>
>>>
>>> On 13-Feb-2005, Mitchell Holman <ta2een...@comcast.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> >> >> > Fuck them anyway. The hardest part about voting for John Kerry
>> was
>>>> >> >> > having to vote for a fabulous war hero. At least Clinton had
had
>>>> the
>>>> >> >> > brains to take a runner, like all of the people I know with an
>> IQ
>>>> >> >> > over
>>>> >> >> > 100.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Are you saying that hose of us who have served are of low
>>>> intelligence?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Swissy's a card isn't he? He needs to go over to Iraq and tell
them
>>>> >> > how horrible we are here. Of course he wouldn't be coming back to
>>>> >> > tell us about it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Is that why YOU aren't in Iraq fighting the war you support?
>>>> >
>>>> > Here we go again... When Klintoon went into Bosnia, did all you
>>>> > Left-Libby cowards signup? I did my part from 66-70 asshole;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You don't say.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have some proof of that to share with us?
>>>
>>> Like AFSN AF11702563, Sgt, 385th Aero Squadron TAC, Litton LN-12
>> Intertial
>>> Guidance Systems Repairman, F-4C, F-4D, and F4E's. Honorable discharge
>>> 12/19/1970 from George AFB, CA.
>>
>>
>> Sorry, that is not verifiable without a full name
>> (http://www.afpc.randolph.af.mil/IM/AFLocator&FOIA/afwwloc.htm)
>>
>> Please provide that and we can proceed.
>
> He has already provided more that you ever have. Unless you are willing
to
> return the favor, shut up.
Usenet is full of netcowards hiding behind
anonymous handles posting claims they cannot
verify. Add the entity hiding behind "Bishop"
to their growing ranks.
Bishop@inthehall.com Bishop
"The rules say it's at 60 years of age when people retire," said Dov
Schwartz, an Army spokesman. The Army will issue waivers allowing people who
are older to serve if they have needed skills. Returning, though, is
"totally voluntary," Schwartz said"
Obviously the man has guts to serve and help again. Something you cowards
would never understand. Remember, asshole, they didn't draft him back in.
Read above "..TOTALLY VOLUNTARY". Guts and courage are something
Left-Libby, yellow-assed whiners cannot comprehend. They'd rather tell
others (many who have already served) to go back, when they themselves
use the old cop-out "why should I go, I don't support the war....wah...wah."
Sounds like the hippies running to Canada in the 60's.
However, to address dim-wit's post.....
People who are in the reserves CAN be called up as long as they remain
in the reserves. Furthermore, since I worked on F-4 fighters, which are no
longer used, that contain inertial guidance systems, which are no longer
used, they wouldn't take me even if I wanted to go.
Sure is getting tiring educating coward Left-Libbies on how the military
works. Bunch-a-twits. Make sure you take your Tu-Tu off before beddie.
Bishop@inthehall.com Bishop
On 14-Feb-2005, Mitchell Holman <ta2een...@comcast.com> wrote:
> > "The AF Worldwide Locator only has location information on individuals
> who
> > are currently receiving compensation from the USAF (Active duty, Guard,
> > Reserve, Retired and Civil Service Personnel). If the individual has
> > separated from the AF, no information is available."
> >
> > I tired to find a friend that I was in with. They told me they do not
> > keep those records. Nice try.
>
>
> If you are afraid to post the info needed
> to prove your claims whose fault is that?
If you think I'm going to post my personal information into a usenet for
you, you're nuts bud. Who the hell do you think you are anyway? I
gave you sufficient information. If you don't like it, or don't want to
believe it, that's your problem. Otherwise, you can kiss my ass.
Gary DeWaay
> Funny how Left-Libbies <snip> posts to suit their needs....
>
Apologize to Mitch. He did no such thing. Check the thread.