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Re: IT'S TIME NOW TO CONTACT THE ACLU TO REPRESENT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGAINST OUR FASCIST GOVT.

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Rico

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May 6, 2007, 9:07:19 PM5/6/07
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PLEASE EXCUSE MY CAPS, I HAVE NERVE DAMAGE TO MY ARM; I AM NOT YELLING
AT YOU AND I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND.
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THE EVENTS OF THE PAST 6 YEARS SHOULD HAVE PROVEN TO ALL AMERICANS
THAT THE GOVERNMENT WE HAVE NOW IS A FASCIST GOVERNMENT WHICH IS HELL-
BENT ON DESTROYING OUR NATION DUE TO THE ACTIONS OF THE CLEARLY
PSYCHOTIC AND DELUSIONAL LEADERS, WHO HAVE "VISIONS" OF POWER,
CONTROL, AND WEALTH OVER ALL OF THE WORLD'S PEOPLE.
> ---
THERE IS NOTHING ORIGINAL ABOUT THIS, I.E. OUR HISTORY BOOKS ARE
FILLED WITH THE SAME KIND OF PSYCHOTIC LUNATICS FROM ALL OVER THE
WORLD.
> ---
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, THIS TIME IT IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA'S
FIRST SUCH FASCIST REGIME.
> ---
WE SHOULD ALL KNOW NOW THAT THE EXTENT OF THIS FASCISM IS ALSO
CONTROLLING OUR CONGRESS, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE "THE DIRECT
REPRESENTATIVES OF ALL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE."
> ---
I AM POSTING TWO EARLIER THREADS OF NEWS ARTICLES WHICH ARE JUST
RECENT ACTIONS OF OUR FASCIST GOVT. FOR "THIS YEAR"; I HAVE MANY MORE
THAT I WAS POSTING EVER SINCE BUSH TOOK OFFICE IN 2001 AND STARTED
SPEWING HIS INTENTIONALLY THREATENING AND PROVOKING STATEMENTS RE "THE
AXIS OF EVIL" WHICH GOT THE WORLD'S IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.
> ---
THEN 9-11-01 ATTACKS TOOK PLACE WHICH WERE AS A "DIRECT CAUSE OF
THREATS OF WAR MADE AGAINST BIN LADEN; THE TALIBAN AND THE MUSLIM
NATIONS."
> --
THOSE THREATS BY THE BUSH REGIME CONTINUE DAILY, WHILE OUR CONGRESS
CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING FOR THESE SO-CALLED "WARS ON TERROR",
BASED ON BLATANT LIES, I.E. "THERE NEVER WAS ANY REAL WARS BECAUSE
NEITHER AFGHANISTAN OR IRAQ HAD ANY ARMY OR EQUIPMENT IN WHICH THEY
COULD INVADE AND ATTACK THE U.S.A.
> --
SO WE MUST "STOP" CALLING THESE "WAR ON TERROR" AND CALL THEM WHAT
THEY REALLY ARE:
> --
ILLEGAL ATTACKS AND OCCUPATION ON SOVEREIGN NATIONS WITH MASS MURDERS
OF THEIR INNOCENT CITIZENS, FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF "CONTROL OF THEIR
LANDS FOR OIL/GAS" AND TO KEEP PERMANENT MILITARY BASES THERE FOR
FUTURE SUCH ILLEGAL OCCUPATIONS.
> --
WE "NOW" HAVE ALL OF THE EVIDENCE NECESSARY TO TAKE THESE FASCISTS TO
COURT RE THE ACLU, AS EXPLAINED BELOW,
FOR VIOLATIONS OF U.S. LAWS;
> ---
WHILE ALSO FILING OUR COMPLAINTS AND REQUEST TO THE UNITED NATION'S
SECURITY COUNCIL FOR REFERRAL TO THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT
(ICC) FOR PROSECUTION OF THEIR WAR CRIMES.
> ---
SUBJECT: IT'S TIME TO CONTACT THE ACLU TO REPRESENT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
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Subject: LINKS TO THE A.C.L.U. OFFICES ---
AMERICANS NOW KNOW, THAT IN ORDER TO SAVE OUR NATION AND OUR DEMOCRACY
WE NEED THE LEGAL HELP OF THE ACLU!
> --
PLEASE READ THESE LINKS THEN SEND YOUR E-MAIL LETTER TO THE ACLU "IN
YOUR STATE" WITH A COPY TO THE N.Y. HOME OFFICE WHERE THESE CASES CAN
BE ORGANIZED.
> --
EVERY DAY THAT WE WAIT TO TAKE ACTION, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING
MURDERED AND ONLY WE CAN STOP IT.
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THE U.S.A. IS CLEARLY BY DEFINITION, A "TERRORIST NATION" WHICH THE
WORLD WOULD BE JUSTIFIED TO DECLARE WAR ON, AS IT DID WITH HITLER'S
GERMANY.
> ----
ACLU-Guardians Of Freedom
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> http://www.aclu.org/about/faqs/21419res20051115.html
> ----
(2) ACLU-E-MAIL-NAT'L HOME OFFICE-N.Y.
> **********************************************
> http://www.aclu.org/contact/index.html
> ---
(3) ACLU-LEADERS & STAFF-BIO & E-MAIL
> **********************************************
About Us : Staff Leaders-E-MAILS
> ----
> http://www.aclu.org/about/staff/index.html
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(4) ACLU-EACH STATE CONTACT (E-MAIL)
> **********************************************
> http://www.aclu.org/affiliates/
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(5) CONGRESS THEIR VOTING RECORD
> **********************************************
> http://action.aclu.org/site/VoteCenter?page=voteList
> ---
(6) Intelligence Expert and X-FBI Agent Joins
> **********************************************
ACLU As "National Security Counsel"
> **********************************************
> http://www.aclu.org/about/staff/27003prs20061005.html
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WHY YOU ARE CONTACTING THE ACLU:
> **********************************************
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THE ACLU WANTS TO TAKE "ONLY" CASES THAT AFFECTS A LARGE GROUP OF
PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIMITED MONEY AND RESOURCES.
> --
FORTUNATELY, THE ACLU HAS ALREADY TAKEN CASES TO THE SUPREME COURT,
WHICH THEY WON, THAT DEAL WITH THESE ILLEGAL ACTS.
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THIS BRINGS US TO THE POINT OF ASKING THE ACLU, "SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE
WANT THEM TO DO FOR ALL OF US".
> ---
IN ORDER TO GET THE ACLU TO "TAKE OUR CASE" AGAINST THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES AND HIS CABINET (DEFENDANTS) FOR PERPETRATING THE
CRIMINAL ACTS OF CONTINUED FRAUD UNDER (U.S.CODE-TITLE 18) IN WHICH:
> ---
THE DEFENDANTS "KNOWINGLY AND INTENTIONALLY" MADE FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT
THE PRESIDENT OF IRAQ IN ORDER TO MAKE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
(PLAINTIFFS) AND THE U.S. CONGRESS:
> --
BELIEVE AND FEAR THIS MAN AND HIS SOVEREIGN COUNTRY, THAT IT WOULD
JUSTIFY AN IMMEDIATE PRE-EMPTIVE ATTACK AND OCCUPATION OF IRAQ, WHICH
HAS CAUSED THE DEATHS OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT IRAQI
CITIZENS AND OUR OWN U.S. TROOPS, AS WELL AS CAUSING MILLIONS OF IRAQI
PEOPLE TO FLEE THEIR HOMES AND COUNTRY AND BECOME REFUGEES;
> ---
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, WANT TO CONTINUE FUNDING THIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY,
DEFINED AS "WAR CRIMES", BY ROBBING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OF THEIR
TREASURY.;
> ---
THE OTHER DEFENDANTS IN THIS CASE, WHO ARE THE GREATER NUMBER OF ALL
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, INCLUDING THE DEMOCRATS, HAS PUBLICLY STATED
"THEY REFUSE" TO HOLD THE PRESIDENT AND HIS CABINET LEGALLY
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS MASSIVE FRAUD, THROUGH IMPEACHMENT AND
INDICTMENT.
> ---
THEREFORE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE NO ADVOCATES TO DO WHAT THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DEMANDING, I.E. "STOPPING THESE WAR CRIMES
AND ROBBERY OF THEIR TREASURY, BY:
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(A) SEEKING LEGAL ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH THE AMERICAN COURTS; AND
> --
(B) FILING PETITIONS WITH THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR REFERRAL
OF THIS MATTER FOR PROSECUTION BY THE "INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT"
FOR WAR CRIMES OF WHICH;
> --
THE PREVIOUS U.N. SECRETARY GENERAL, KOFI ANNAN, IS ON RECORD AS
STATING THAT THE U.S. INVASION OF IRAQ VIOLATED INTERNATIONAL LAW AND
THE U.N. CHARTER.
> ---
THIS IS NOW A MATTER OF "CRITICAL NATIONAL SECURITY", AS WELL AS OUR
"CIVIL RIGHTS", BOTH OF WHICH ARE INTENTIONALLY BEING DESTROYED, AS IT
ALWAYS IS UNDER A FASCIST GOVERNMENT, UNTIL "IT IS DESTROYED".
> ---
THE FACT THAT THE ACLU HAS ADDED TO IT'S STAFF OF ATTORNEYS, A FORMER
FBI AGENT WHO SPECIALIZED IN TERRORISM SHOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
> ---
THE ACLU STATES THE FOLLOWING IN A 2004 CASE WHICH IS SHOWN ON THEIR
WEBSITE (CIVIL LIBERTIES IN TIMES OF NATIONAL CRISIS):
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"THE ACLU HAILED THE HISTORIC RULINGS AS A STRONG REPUDIATION OF THE
GOVT'S ARGUMENT THAT "IT'S ACTIONS" IN THE "WAR ON TERROR"
ARE.."BEYOND THE RULE OF LAW" & "UNREVIEWABLE BY AMERICAN COURTS".
>
>
>
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Rico

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Subject:MY #1 THREAD-BUSH & NEOCON'S PLAN-WORLD DOMINATION
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.impeach.bush/browse_frm/thread/66c376186d234c03?scoring=d&
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Rico

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LEG

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May 6, 2007, 11:41:07 PM5/6/07
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IF YOU HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO CLINTON & OBAMA, YOU WILL KNOW, I.E.
CONTINUED WAR AND NO IMPEACHMENT OF BUSH ARE HINTS.
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Subject:5-06-07-WHEN NEOCON- Republicans SUPPORT CLINTON & OBAMA-
SOMETHINGS UP
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050607G.shtml
>
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JACKEL

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May 10, 2007, 3:54:56 PM5/10/07
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THE BUSH REGIME, IN COLLUSION WITH CONGRESS IS USING THE DOZENS OF SO-
CALLED "INVESTIGATIVE OVERSITES" TO DIVERT OUR ATTENTION AWAY FROM
BLATANT CONTINUED "OCCUPATION" OF OTHER COUNTRIES FOR THE PURPOSE OF
"EXPANDING OR CREATING MORE U.S. MILITARY BASES".
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OBVIOUSLY "YOUR CONGRESS PEOPLE KNOW ALL ABOUT THIS SINCE IT REQUIRES
"USING YOUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO DO THIS".
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WITH THE U.S.A. SO HATED AROUND THE WORLD, DUE TO THE ILLEGAL AND
BLATANT OCCUPATIONS AND MURDER OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF THE
INNOCENT PEOPLE IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ, THE BUSH REGIME "WITH
CONGRESSIONAL FUNDING" ARE OBVIOUSLY CONTINUING THIS "EMPIRE BUILDING"
WHERE MORE U.S. TROOPS IN THESE COUNTRIES CAN ONLY BE SEEN BY THE
WORLD AS "FURTHER MILITARY AGGRESSION".
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THE U.S.A. ALREADY HAS 70 U.S. MILITARY BASES SPREAD ALL OVER THE
WORLD, MANY OF WHICH "THE PEOPLE WANT THE U.S. TROOPS TO LEAVE,
BUT...THE LEADERS OF MANY OF THESE COUNTRIES ARE GETTING HUGE "KICK-
BACKS" TO ALLOW THESE TROOPS STAY.
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THE CITIZENS OF THESE COUNTRIES "ARE" THE PEOPLE WHO ARE JOINING AL-
QAEDA AND OTHER ACTIVISTS TO FIGHT AGAINST THIS U.S. OCCUPATION, WHICH
THE BUSH REGIME AND CONGRESS NOW CALL THEM "TERRORISTS", WHEN IN FACT,
THE U.S. "IS" THE REAL FASCIST TERRORIST NATION.
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IN THIS ARTICLE YOU WILL SEE THAT "AMERICANS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS
U.S. ACTIVITY" BECAUSE "OUR GOVERNMENT WON'T TELL US ABOUT THIS, THUS
THE MEDIA WON'T REPORT IT".
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OUR U.S. BUDGET FOR 2008 IS BEFORE CONGRESS NOW, YET HOW MANY HAVE
READ THESE BILLS OR HEARD ANY DEBATE ABOUT FUNDING FOR THESE BASES?
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ON C-SPAN RIGHT NOW, CONGRESS IS TAKING UP H.R.2082 THE APPROPRIATIONS
FOR THE 16 INTELLIGENCE PROGRAMS.
--
I WILL MAKE A SEPARATE POST (AGAIN) TO PROVIDE THE LINKS FOR ALL
CONGRESSIONAL BILLS AND CONTACT LINKS TO YOUR CONGRESS PEOPLE. LET
THEM KNOW WHAT YOU THINK AND HOW YOU WILL BE VOTING IN 2008.
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HERE IS THE ARTICLE.
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Subject:5-08-07-BUSH & CONGRESS IS EXPANDING THE "AMERICAN EMPIRE" ALL
OVER EUROPE-MEETING TODAY
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050907P.shtml
>
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JACKEL

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May 10, 2007, 5:05:11 PM5/10/07
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IT'S TIME TO CONTACT THE ACLU TO REPRESENT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE
WE NOW HAVE A FASCIST GOVT., WITH "NO ONE PROTECTING AND DEFENDING
"THE AMERICAN PEOPLE".
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Subject: LINKS TO A.C.L.U.

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AMERICANS NOW KNOW, THAT IN ORDER TO SAVE OUR NATION AND OUR DEMOCRACY
WE NEED THE LEGAL HELP OF THE ACLU!
AS YOU CAN SEE AND I PERSONALLY HAVE EXPERIENCED:

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THE ACLU WANTS TO TAKE "ONLY" CASES THAT AFFECTS A LARGE GROUP OF
PEOPLE
BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIMITED MONEY.

---
THIS BRINGS US TO THE POINT OF ASKING THE ACLU,
"SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO FOR ALL OF US".
---
IN ORDER TO GET THE ACLU TO "TAKE OUR CASE" AGAINST THE PRESIDENT OF
THE
UNITED STATES AND HIS CABINET (DEFENDANTS) FOR
PERPETRATING THE CRIMINAL ACT OF "CONSPIRACY AND FRAUD (U.S.CODE-TITLE

18) IN WHICH:
---
THE DEFENDANTS "KNOWINGLY AND INTENTIONALLY" MADE
FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT THE PRESIDENT OF IRAQ IN ORDER TO MAKE THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE (PLAINTIFFS) AND
THE U.S. CONGRESS:
--
BELIEVE AND FEAR THIS MAN AND HIS SOVEREIGN COUNTRY, THAT IT WOULD
JUSTIFY AN IMMEDIATE PRE-EMPTIVE ATTACK AND
OCCUPATION OF IRAQ, WHICH HAS CAUSED THE DEATHS OF HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF
INNOCENT IRAQI
CITIZENS AND OUR OWN U.S. TROOPS,
---

AS WELL AS CAUSING MILLIONS OF IRAQI PEOPLE TO FLEE THEIR HOMES AND
COUNTRY AND BECOME
REFUGEES;
---
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, WANT TO CONTINUE FUNDING THIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY,
DEFINED AS "WAR CRIMES",
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FBI AGENT WHO SPECIALIZED IN TERRORISM.

JACKEL

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May 10, 2007, 5:15:49 PM5/10/07
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Subject:U.S. SENATORS & REP-
+ BILLS U.S. REPRESENTATIVES:
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Subject:Write Your Representative -
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United States House of Representatives,
ACCESS TO ALL INFO
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http://www.house.gov/
>
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U.S.Representative Offices -
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BY NAME WITH LINKS TO THEIR WEB PAGES
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http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml
>
---
=========================
U.S. SENATORS-CONTACT INFO:
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Subject:U.S. Senators-BY STATE OR NAME
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http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
>
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LEGISLATION:
===========
SENATE BILLS & RESOLUTIONS:
Subject:U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home
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http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/g_three_sections_with_teasers/legislative_home.htm
>
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Subject: Bills, Resolutions - THOMAS (Library of
Congress)
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/bills_res.html
>

JACKEL

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May 10, 2007, 5:30:14 PM5/10/07
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PLEASE READ THE ABOVE RE "U.S.'S SECRET EXPANSION OF MILITARY BASES".
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HERE ARE THE LINKS TO CONTACT YOUR CONGRESS PEOPLE TELLING THEM WHAT
YOU THINK ABOUT THIS "EXPANSION OF MILITARY BASES AT A TIME WHEN THE
U.S. IS SO HATED FOR IT'S ILLEGAL OCCUPATION AND MURDER OF INNOCENT
PEOPLE IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ, AND THAT WE MUST STOP THIS FASCIST AND
TERRORIST ACTS.
------

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/g_three_sections_with_te...

J Carroll

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May 10, 2007, 7:04:43 PM5/10/07
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JACKEL wrote:
> Subject:U.S. SENATORS & REP-
> + BILLS U.S. REPRESENTATIVES:
> ---
> Subject:Write Your Representative -
> ------
> United States House of Representatives,
> ACCESS TO ALL INFO
> ---
> http://www.house.gov/
>>
> ---
> U.S.Representative Offices -
> --
> BY NAME WITH LINKS TO THEIR WEB PAGES
> ---
> http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml
>>
> ---
> =========================
> U.S. SENATORS-CONTACT INFO:
>>
> ---
> LEGISLATION:
> ===========
> SENATE BILLS & RESOLUTIONS:
> Subject:U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home
> ---
>
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/g_three_sections_with_teasers/legislative_home.htm
>>
> ---
> Subject: Bills, Resolutions - THOMAS (Library of
> Congress)
> http://thomas.loc.gov/home/bills_res.html

Get back to us when you can provide cell and home phone numbers.

--
John R. Carroll
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Rico

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May 11, 2007, 9:03:21 PM5/11/07
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THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT IT WAS CHENEY WHO:
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(1) THREATENED THE CIA ANALYSTS TO PRODUCE THE LIES RE IRAQI'S WMD--
THERE IS A LOT OF TESTIMONY FROM THEM ABOUT THE MANY "VISITS" CHENEY
MADE TO THEM;
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(2) TOP PROMOTER OF THESE LIES AND FRAUD WHICH HE SPEWED ALL OVER TV
AND RADIO SHOWS-"MATTER OF RECORD";
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(3) WAS THE THUG WHO TOLD HIS EMPLOYEES, LIKE LIBBY TO SPREAD THE WORD
TO THE MEDIA THAT OUTED A COVERT CIA AGENT, SO HE COULD HURT JOE
WILSON WHO PROVED CHENEY'S WAS LYING ABOUT IRAQ GETTING URANIUM FOR
NUKES;
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(4) SET UP THE BIGGEST ROBBERY OF THE U.S. TREASURY VIA "WAR
PROFITEERING" USING HIS CONNECTIONS WITH HALLIBURTON AND OTHERS TO
FRAUDULENTLY CLAIM WORK THAT WASN'T DONE; BY EMPLOYEES THAT DIDN'T
EXIST AND CHARGING 400% MORE FOR ITEMS AND SERVICE.
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(5) CHENEY WAS ALSO BEHIND THE THREATS TO BIN LADEN AND PAKISTAN'S
PRESIDENT THAT:
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IF THEY AGREED WITH HIS DEALS HE WOULD PROVIDE THEM WITH "A CARPET OF
GOLD", IF THEY WOULDN'T AGREE, HE WOULD "CARPET THEM WITH BOMBS".
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IN BOTH CASES, ARMITAGE WAS "THE MESSENGER" FOR CHENEY, AS WAS
ARMITAGE THE "LEAKER OF THE CIA AGENT TO REPORTER, KOVACK".
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NOW, CHENEY HAS OBVIOUSLY THREATENED THE "PUPPET GOVERNMENT" HE SET UP
IN IRAQ, FOR THEM TO MAKE PRESS STATEMENTS "NOW SAYING":
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"THEY WANT THE U.S. TROOPS TO STAY IN IRAQ FOR AT LEAST ONE OR TWO
MORE YEARS", WHEN THE PRIME MINISTER (MALIKI) HAS ALREADY TOLD THE
U.S. HE WANTED THEM TO LEAVE IRAQ, BECAUSE AL-QAEDA IS COMING TO IRAQ
AND BOMBING BOTH SUNNI AND SHIA AND BLAMING IT ON EACH OTHER IN ORDER
TO GET A "RELIGIOUS WAR" STARTED.
--
(I WILL POST THE TWO ARTICLES RE CHENEY'S RECENT TRIP TO IRAQ NEXT).

Rico

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May 11, 2007, 9:18:55 PM5/11/07
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IT IS OBVIOUS THAT CHENEY "THINKS" HE IS SO SMART THAT AMERICANS WOULD
SUDDENLY BELIEVE THAT THE IRAQI'S WANTED "MORE U.S. TROOPS TO OCCUPY
AND KILL THEIR PEOPLE, WHILE ROBBING THEM OF THEIR OIL, AND BUILDING
THE WORLD'S LARGEST, SO-CALLED "AMERICAN EMBASSY" THERE.
--
THE FACT IS:
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THE IRAQI'S WANT AND HAVE ASKED, THAT THE U.S. LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY.
THIS WAS CLEARLY STATED JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHEN HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF IRAQI'S PROTESTED AGAINST THE U.S. AND BURNED THE
AMERICAN FLAG, ETC.
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IN THE FOLLOWING TWO ARTICLES YOU CAN SEE THAT "THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT
WANTS THE U.S. OUT..THEY EVEN VOTED ON IT.
--
BUT AFTER CHENEY'S "LITTLE TALK WITH THE LEADERS" THEY ARE NOW SAYING
THEY WANT THE U.S. TO STAY FOR A COUPLE MORE YEARS.
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CHENEY NEEDS TO BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM OUR GOVT. BUT THE CONGRESS
APPARENTLY "LIKES AND WILL KEEP... THESE FASCISTS" SINCE THEY HAVE
PUBLICLY STATED: THEY WILL NOT IMPEACH THEM.
--
"OUR ENEMY LIES WITHIN".
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HOW MUCH MONEY DID WE HAVE TO PAY IRAQ'S PRES. TALABANI AFTER CHENEY'S
THREATS?
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Subject:5-09-07-Cheney makes surprise visit to Iraq -
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18564433/
>
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In Iraq, Cheney defends deployment extensions Vice president vows to
stay on the offensive
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despite growing opposition
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CAMP SPEICHER, Iraq - Vice President Dick Cheney saluted U.S. troops
stationed near former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein's hometown on
Thursday and
---
defended the Bush administration's recent decision to "extend military
deployments"
as vital to the mission.
---
"The Army and the country appreciate the extra burden you carry,"?
Cheney said.
---
He vowed to "stay on the offensive" despite growing public opposition
in the United States to the war and efforts by the Democratic majority
in Congress to restrict spending.
---
Cheney, who was defense secretary in the first Bush administration,
spent the night on the base, about seven miles from Tikrit, Saddam's
former hometown and an area populated mostly by minority-party Sunnis.
---
Cheney had breakfast with troops and participated in classified
briefings from military commanders.
---
"It was a good report and I come away with even more appreciation for
all you do, and greater confidence for the days ahead," Cheney said,
---
Between 10,000 and 12,000 troops are stationed at the base, which is
located on the grounds of the former Iraqi Air Force Academy and is
about 100 miles north of Baghdad, where Cheney spent Wednesday.
----
It was the first time Cheney spent the night in Iraq, and his
whereabouts was closely guarded by the White House until Thursday's
speech to the troops.
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The extension is vital
************************
Cheney spoke to several thousand, mostly Army forces, in a huge tent
that is scheduled to be a gymnasium.
---
He was enthusiastically cheered and greeted when he stepped on stage,
but only politely applauded when he talked about deployment
extensions.
---
Later, he arrived at Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates to a red
carpet welcome.
---
The vice president is on a weeklong tour of the Middle East that will
also take him to Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan.
---
On Friday, he will visit U.S. troops on the aircraft carrier USS John
C. Stennis in the Persian Gulf.
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"Extremists from inside and outside the country want to stir an
endless cycle of violence, and al-Qaida is operating and trying to
open new fronts,"? Cheney said.
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"Some seem to have no interest in seeing the emergence of a strong,
secure and democratic Iraq.
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"A violent minority is trying to tear down the institutions of
peaceful self-government that Iraqis are trying to build,"? he said.
---
The president recently increased military deployments from 12 months
to 15 months.
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That meant a blanket three-month extension for nearly every one on the
base, said Maj. Tage Rainsford, a public affairs officer on the base.
---
Said Cheney: "Many of you have had your deployments extended and that
puts unexpected hardship on you and your families. I want you to know
the extension is vital to the mission."
---
Cheney visited Iraq to assess the impact of the president's decision
to:
--
"send roughly 30,000 additional troops to Iraq" to help stabilize the
country, especially around Baghdad.
--
In meetings with Iraqi leaders on Wednesday,
**********************************************
he also pressed for Iraq to do more to reconcile tensions among rival
Shiite and Sunni factions.
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"Success on the path to reconciliation, progress and peace, Cheney
told the troops,
--
"depends on Iraqi's leaders themselves, and
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the ultimate solution in this country
***************************************
will be a political solution."?
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"But that requires basic security",
especially in Baghdad, where Americans are working beside Iraqi forces
to carry out our new strategy."
---?
Cheney was not upbeat,
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giving a "grim assessment of the war"
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being waged,
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"citing comments by Gen. David Petraeus",
**********************************************
the chief U.S. commander in Iraq,
who was with him.
--
"General Petraeus has underscored the fact that enemy tactics are
barbaric ... that
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"we can expect more violence" as
they try to destroy the hopes of the Iraqi people,"? Cheney said.
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But he cited some progress in terms of battling al-Qaida, seizing
weapons and getting improved intelligence.
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?We cannot stay here forever"
*************************************
Gen. Benjamin R. (Randy) Mixon,
**************************************
commander of coalition forces in northern Iraq, told reporters that:
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"since President Bush announced his military
**********************************************
buildup earlier this year, some al-Qaida and
**********************************************
other militants have migrated from Baghdad
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to other areas of Iraq, including some in
*********************************************
northern areas under his command."
****************************************
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As to the "extensions of duty on troops" at Camp Speicher, Mixon said,
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"They understand perfectly the reason the mission's been extended. The
morale is good, in terms of staying focused on the mission.
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They want to know the exact day their going
**********************************************
back. That gives them something to focus on."?
**********************************************
"This budget battle has been particularly frustrating to us,"? Mixon
said of congressional efforts to set timetables for troop withdrawals.
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"We cannot stay here forever", we all know that," he said.
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He said the solution to the problem is to keep training the Iraqi army
and police.
---
Specialist Eric Emo, 23, of Sedalia, Mo., whose Army unit is based in
Fort Riley, Kan., said
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most of his fellow soldiers are unhappy about the deployment
extensions, but understand the need for it.
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In terms of hostile activity, he said,
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"conditions around here have gotten a lot
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worse."
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He said there has been a particularly
"sharp increase in the number of roadside bombs."
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Subject:5-11-07-AFTER CHENEY MET HIM-Iraqi leader: said "U.S. troops
needed longer"
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18602895/print/1/displaymode/1098/
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Iraqi leader: U.S. troops needed longer
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Talabani comments as Baghdad lawmakers discuss withdrawal timetable
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The Associated Press
Updated: 4:02 p.m. ET May 11, 2007
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CAMBRIDGE, England -
Iraqi President Jalal Talabani said
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Friday that:
"his country may need U.S. troops for
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one or two more years.
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The statement came "after" lawmakers
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in Baghdad "backed a drawdown"
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in the number of foreign troops in Iraq.
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Talabani told students at Cambridge University that all of Iraq was
safer because of Saddam Hussein's removal and that many people were
living normal lives.
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"I think that in one or two years:
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we will "be able to recruit our forces",
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"to prepare our forces" and
*************************
"say goodbye to our friends,"? he said.
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On Thursday, a majority of Iraqi lawmakers
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endorsed a draft bill calling for a timetable for
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the withdrawal of foreign troops and demanding
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a freeze on the number already in the country.
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The legislation was being discussed even as U.S. lawmakers were locked
in a dispute with the White House over their call to start reducing
the size of the U.S. force in the coming months.
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The proposed Iraqi legislation, drafted by the parliamentary bloc
loyal to anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, was signed by
144 members of the 275-member house, said Nassar al-Rubaie, the leader
of the Sadrist bloc.
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The Sadrist bloc, which holds 30 parliamentary seats and sees the U.S.-
led forces as
"an occupying army", has pushed similar bills before, but this was the
first time it garnered the support of a majority of lawmakers.
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Would freeze [the] size of foreign forces
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The bill would:
---
"require the Iraqi government to seek approval from parliament"
--
"before it requests an extension of the U.N. mandate for foreign
forces to be in Iraq," al-Rubaie said.
---
It also "calls for a timetable" for
"the troop withdrawal" and
"a freeze on the size of the foreign forces."
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The U.N. Security Council voted unanimously "in November to extend the
mandate"
of the U.S.-led forces until the end of 2007.
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The resolution, however, said:
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the council "will terminate this mandate earlier"
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if requested by the government of Iraq."
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The measure, which has not yet been introduced in parliament,
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"reflects growing disenchantment"
"among the lawmakers"
"over U.S. involvement in Iraq" and
--
the government's failure to curb the violence.
---
Ali al-Adeeb,
*************
a senior Shiite lawmaker and
an aide to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki,
---
questioned the wisdom of asking foreign forces to leave when Iraqi
forces were not ready to take full responsibility for security in the
country.
--
"Their withdrawal will not benefit anyone if our forces are not
ready," said al-Adeeb, who said he did not back the bill. --- "There
must be a commitment from foreign parties to train our forces."
---
Al-Rubaie said
*****************
he personally handed the Iraqi bill to speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani
on Wednesday.
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Not officially submitted
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Deputy Speaker, Khaled al-Attiyah said:
---
the draft legislation had not been officially submitted to the
speaker, but was currently being reviewed by the house's legal
department, apparently the final step before it can be submitted.
---
Al-Rubaie said:
---
al-Mashhadani had a week to schedule
"a debate on the bill"
---
before he would "use the majority"
that backs it to force one.
--------------------------------
However, his majority might be shaky.
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Kurdish lawmaker, Mahmoud Othman said:
********************
"he had backed the draft"
only on the condition that
****************************
"the withdrawal timetable"
be "linked to a schedule for
"training and equipping Iraq's security forces."
---
"But the sponsors of the legislation did not include our observations
in the draft. This is deception," he said.
---
Al-Sadr's Mahdi Army militia,
********************************
which launched two uprisings
against U.S. troops in 2004,
has been blamed in much of the recent sectarian violence against
Sunnis and
---
has been "one of the main targets"
of a U.S.-Iraqi security crackdown.
---
Last month, the cleric ordered his six Cabinet ministers to leave the
government
---
"after the Shiite prime minister refused" to
**********************************************
put a timetable for foreign troops withdrawal.
**********************************************
---
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18602895/
? 2007 MSNBC.com
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Subject: LINKS TO A.C.L.U.

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AMERICANS NOW KNOW, THAT IN ORDER TO SAVE OUR NATION AND OUR DEMOCRACY
WE NEED THE LEGAL HELP OF THE ACLU!
AS YOU CAN SEE AND I PERSONALLY HAVE EXPERIENCED:
--
THE ACLU WANTS TO TAKE "ONLY" CASES THAT AFFECTS A LARGE GROUP OF
PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIMITED MONEY.

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THIS BRINGS US TO THE POINT OF ASKING THE ACLU, "SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE
WANT THEM TO DO FOR ALL OF US".
---
IN ORDER TO GET THE ACLU TO "TAKE OUR CASE" AGAINST THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES AND HIS CABINET (DEFENDANTS) FOR PERPETRATING THE
CRIMINAL ACT OF FRAUD (U.S.CODE-TITLE 18) IN WHICH:
(A) SEEKING LEGAL ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH THE AMERICAN COURTS; AND/OR

--
(B) FILING PETITIONS WITH THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR REFERRAL
OF THIS MATTER FOR PROSECUTION BY THE "INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT"
FOR WAR CRIMES OF WHICH;
--
THE PREVIOUS U.N. SECRETARY GENERAL, KOFI ANNAN, IS ON RECORD AS
STATING THAT THE U.S. INVASION OF IRAQ VIOLATED INTERNATIONAL LAW AND
THE U.N. CHARTER.
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THIS IS NOW A MATTER OF "CRITICAL NATIONAL SECURITY", AS WELL AS OUR
"CIVIL RIGHTS", BOTH OF WHICH ARE INTENTIONALLY BEING DESTROYED, AS IT
ALWAYS IS UNDER A FASCIST GOVERNMENT, UNTIL "IT IS DESTROYED".
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THE FACT THAT THE ACLU HAS ADDED TO IT'S STAFF OF ATTORNEYS, A FORMER
FBI AGENT WHO SPECIALIZED IN TERRORISM.

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THIS ARTICLE CLEARLY PROVES THAT THE "OFFICE OF SPECIAL COUNSEL" IS
CORRUPT.
--
IT ALSO SHOWS THAT "CONGRESS KNOWS THIS AND HAS BEEN FUNDING IT".
---
PLEASE COPY THIS ARTICLE AND GO TO MY ABOVE POSTS #11 AND USE IT TO
TELL YOUR CONGRESS PERSON THAT THEY MUST PUT AN IMMEDIATE STOP TO THIS
CORRUPTION, OR THEY WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
--
THEN, USE THIS POST TO SEND IT TO THE ACLU (LINK IS ABOVE) AND ASK
THEM TO REPRESENT ALL AMERICANS TO SUE THE BUSH REGIME "AND" CONGRESS.
--
IT IS MY BELIEF THAT WE "DO NEED" THIS OFFICE FOR OVERSITE, BUT...IT
SHOULD BE DONE BY CONGRESS AS A "SUBCOMMITTEE" WITH MEMBERS FROM BOTH
PARTIES, SO AS TO STOP THIS BLATANT POLITICAL CORRUPTION.
---
IT IS CLEAR THAT ALL AMERICANS "MUST" MAKE THIS EFFORT TO "CLEAN OUR
GOVT. OF THESE FASCISTS" AND TO HOLD THEM LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE, SO AS
TO SEND THE MESSAGE:
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"AMERICANS WILL NO LONGER TOLERATE SUCH CORRUPTION BY MEMBERS OF OUR
GOVT. NO MATTER WHAT POSITION THEY HOLD."
--
Subject:5-14-07-Special Counsel's Ties to White House Mar Probe
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051407J.shtml
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Rico

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AMERICANS SHOULD WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT EVER SINCE OUR FOUNDING
FATHERS, SLAUGHTERED THE AMERICAN INDIANS FOR THEIR LAND AND THEN
BOUGHT SLAVES TO WORK THIS LAND, THE U.S.A. HAS BEEN BLATANTLY
COMMITTING MURDER AND ROBBERY EVER SINCE "IN" THE U.S. AND FOR SEVERAL
CENTURIES TOOK THEIR SELF-RIGHTEOUS MANTRAS INTO EVERY COUNTRY "WITH
THE U.S. MILITARY" TO MURDER AND ROB THE INNOCENT PEOPLE.
---
THIS PATTERN OF MURDER AND CORRUPTION IS "WELL KNOWN" THROUGHOUT THE
WORLD; YET THIS CORRUPTION IS NEVER TAUGHT TO THE AMERICAN KIDS, IN
FACT, MOST AMERICAN HISTORY BOOKS ARE FILLED WITH LIES AND PROPAGANDA
TO BRAIN-WASH OUR KIDS INTO BELIEVING THE U.S. IS THE MOST POWERFUL;
SUPERIOR; AND MORAL COUNTRY ON THE EARTH.
---
UNBELIEVABLY, THERE ARE MILLIONS OF SO-CALLED AMERICAN ADULTS WHO
"STILL BELIEVE THESE LIES", THEY CAN TRULY BE CALLED "THE STUPID
AMERICAN", WHILE THOSE WHO "KNOW ABOUT THIS AND PROFIT BY THIS MASS
MURDER FOR PROFIT, IS CALLED AROUND THE WORLD "THE UGLY AMERICAN".
--
THEY ARE THE BIG LOUD MOUTHS WHO SWAGGER THROUGH THE WORLD'S NATIONS
TREATING THE PEOPLE OF THESE NATIONS, LIKE STUPID SHEEP THAT THEY CAN
LEAD ANYWHERE.
---
IT HAS ONLY BEEN NOW, WITH GEORGE W. BUSH, THE PHONY AIRFORCE PILOT
AND COWBOY, SWAGGERING AROUND THE WORLD WITH A MOUTH FULL OF THREATS
FOR EVERYONE HE PERSONALLY PERCEIVES AS "EVIL" HAS THERE BEEN A "REAL
FACE" TO GO WITH NAME OF "THE UGLY AMERICAN".
--
I POSTED MANY ARTICLES NOW ABOUT THE "REAL REASONS" WHY THE U.S.
MILITARY ILLEGALLY BOMBED AND MURDERED INNOCENT PEOPLE IN AFGHANISTAN
AND IRAQ I.E. ON THE ORDERS OF:
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OUR PRESIDENT WITH THE APPROVAL OF CONGRESS, TO GET OIL FOR THE OWNERS
OF OIL CORPS, WHO THEN PAID OFF ALL OF THESE CORRUPT GOVT. OFFICIALS,
AND THE LOWLY G.I. GRUNT WAS USED TO DO THIS FILTHY-BLOODY WORK WHICH
THEY CALL "PATRIOTIC HEROES".
---
THIS IS THE B.S. THAT "REAL AMERICANS" MUST STOP IF WE ARE TO EVER GET
ANY TRUST AND CREDIBILITY.
---
WE ARE CLEARLY ON THE BRINK OF WWIII AND THE BUSH REGIME, IN COLLUSION
WITH CONGRESS, HAS BEEN THE WORST OF ALL OUR NATION'S LEADERS AND WE
WILL ALL HAVE TO PAY THE VERY HARD PRICE BECAUSE....WE AREN'T DOING A
DAMN THING TO STOP THEM, KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE
PUSHED THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPEACHING AND INDICTING THE BUSH REGIME
BACK IN OUR FACES, AS IF WE ARE TOTAL MORONS.
---
HERE IS JUST ONE OF THOUSANDS OF EXAMPLES OF HOW THIS MASS MURDER FOR
PROFIT WORKS.
---
Subject:5-13-07-
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U.S. GOVT-MURDER & ROBBERY OUT OF PURE GREED-
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AfroColombians Oppose Free Trade Agreement
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051307C.shtml
>
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IF YOU WANT TO STOP THIS, GO TO MY LINK ABOVE RE CONGRESS AND SEND
THEM THIS POST AND TELL THEM THAT WE, AMERICANS WANT IMMEDIATE
LEGISLATION MAKING IT ILLEGAL FOR THE U.S. GOVT AND ALL EMPLOYEES OF
IT, TO IN ANYWAY SUPPORT ANY U.S. BUSINESSES WHO DO BUSINESS WITH
FOREIGN COUNTRIES.
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THERE SHOULD BE LONG PRISON SENTENCES AND POSSESSION OF ANY BUSINESS
AND PERSONAL ASSETS OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONSPIRED TOGETHER FOR THIS
PURPOSE.
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WE SHOULD ALSO MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR ANY AMERICAN BUSINESS TO CLOSE IT'S
DOORS IN THE U.S.A. CAUSING UNEMPLOYMENT, WHILE "THE OWNERS REMAIN IN
THE U.S.A."
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IF BUSINESS OWNERS PLAN ON MOVING THEIR BUSINESSES OUTSIDE THE USA,
THEY WILL IMMEDIATELY LOSE THEIR CITIZENSHIP, AS WELL AS THEIR
IMMEDIATE FAMILY, AND THEIR PRODUCT/SERVICE WILL BE BANNED IN THE
U.S.A.
--
THIS IS WHAT THE U.S.A. DOES TO OTHER NATIONS UNDER THE SO-CALLED
"FREE TRADE POLICY", WORLD TRADE ORG. AND MANY OTHERS. IT IS TIME FOR
THE AMERICAN CORP. CRIMINAL AND POLITICIANS NOW BE HELD LEGALLY
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR SUB-HUMAN ACTS.
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EACH OF US, AMERICANS ARE CONSIDERED JUST AS GUILTY OF THESE WAR
CRIMES, AS THE BUSH REGIME IS BECAUSE...WE ARE NOT STOPPING IT.
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WE MUST CONTACT THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL ASKING THEM TO REFER OUR
CASE TO THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT FOR PROSECUTION OF THE BUSH
REGIME AND CONGRESS, FOR FUNDING THESE CLEAR AND INTENTIONAL WAR
CRIMES.
--
NOTE: GO TO MY LINKS OF MY OTHER THREADS WHERE I GIVE YOU THE
BACKGROUND ON THE BUSH REGIME AND OIL PIPELINES IN AFGHAN.
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THE WORLD IS WATCHING US CITIZENS TO SEE IF WE ARE GOING TO STOP THIS
OR SUPPORT IT. DOING NOTHING TELLS THEM, "WE SUPPORT THESE WAR CRIMES".
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Subject:5-13-07-
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AFGHAN-WAR CRIMES- Civilian Deaths Undermine War on Taliban
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051307B.shtml
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2-24-05-BUSH FAMILY WAR-PROFITEERING IN IRAQ
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Subject:2-24-05-The Bush Family's War Profiteering
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(OPEN URL FOR IMPORTANT LINKS)
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http://democracyrising.us/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=72
>
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The Bush Family's War Profiteering
Written by Administrator ??
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Thursday, 24 February 2005
********************************
The extent of Iraq contracts going to corporations which involve
members of President George W. Bush's family is
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"widespread and extensive
involving hundreds of millions of dollars.
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Often these firms receive contracts where the corporations have no
expertise and certainly the Bush family members have no expertise or
experience in these areas.
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It is a world not of know how but of know who, marinated in campaign
contributions.
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It seems like Bush family and friends are trading on their
relationship to the President.
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The matrix of government contracts and Bush related corporations
invites further investigation by the media and Congress - inquiries
that are long overdue.
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Below are examples of Bush Family members who have profited from the
war and occupation of Iraq.
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These issues have "not" been examined or reported by the mainstream
media.
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Neil Mallon Bush
**********************
the younger brother of the President,
infamous for his involvement in
the Silverado S and L scandal,
---
has been hired by Crest Investment Company as a consultant for $60,000
per year to assist with their efforts "to serve as a middleman" to
advise other companies that seek taxpayer-financed business in Iraq.
---
Working with Crest puts Neil Bush at the center of multiple
organizations profiting from the war and occupation in close alliance
with long-term Bush Family allies.
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Crest Investment is headed by Jamal Daniel who is a principal partner
in New Bridge, a Houston, TX based company with offices in Iraq and
Kuwait.
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The main focus of New Bridge is to advise companies that seek
opportunities in the private sector in Iraq, including licenses to
market products in Iraq.
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The company highlights that the
"Coalition Provisional Authority decision" to allow foreign companies
to establish
"100 percent ownership of businesses in Iraq", an unusual arrangement
in the Mideast, has added to the attractiveness of the market.
---
The company describes itself by saying:
"New Bridge Strategies, LLC is a unique company that was created
specifically with the aim of "assisting clients" to:
---
evaluate and take advantage of business "opportunities in the Middle
East"
---
"following the conclusion" of
"the U.S.-led war in Iraq."
---
Its activities will "seek to expedite" the "creation of free and fair
markets" and
new economic growth in Iraq,
---
"consistent with the policies of the Bush
********************************************
Administration."
*****************
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"The opportunities evolving in Iraq today are of such an
"unprecedented nature and scope"
--
that "no other existing firm" has:
the necessary skills and experience to
---
"be effective both in Washington, D.C. and on the ground in Iraq."
---
(See: http://www.newbridgestrategies.com/index.asp
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"New Bridge Strategies" , is
headed by:
---
Joe M. Allbaugh,
******************
"Mr. Bush's campaign manager in 2000"
---
and the "director of":
the "Federal Emergency Management Agency"
---
until March 2003. (INVASION OF IRAQ)
*******************
---
Earlier he was:
"Chief of Staff to then-Governor Bush" of Texas -- Other directors
include:
Edward M. Rogers, Jr. vice chairman, and Lanny Griffith, lobbyists
---
who were: "assistants to
President George Herbert Walker" and
now have close ties to the White House."
---
Also related to this "Neil Bush network" is "Diligence LLC"
http://www.diligencellc.com/index.html
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"Diligence" shares addresses and many
Board members with "New Bridge Strategies".
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It was formed by "past members" of:
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the CIA and Britain's MI5 Intelligence Services
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---
along with experts in international law, journalism and intelligence
which:
--
enables them "to review"
all sorts of "future investment projects" and "provide security
advice".
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"Diligence" opened an office in
Baghdad in "July 2003" where they provided:
---
"payroll protection and delivery",
personnel and facilities security,
review of potential Iraqi business ventures, training and management
of personal security forces, and "intelligence briefs."
---
A subsidiary includes:
"Diligence Middle East, LLC"
which was created in partnership with
New Bridge and the Kuwaiti Coroporation, Al-Mal Investment Company.
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William H.T. ("Bucky") Bush,
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an uncle of George W. Bush,
joined the board of directors of:
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the St. Louis based company
"Engineered Support Systems" in March 2000. (See: http://www.engineeredsupport.com/
---
Bucky Bush was one of the:
"Bush Pioneers",
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the campaign contributors who raised more than $100,000 in the 2000
presidential election. ---
"Engineered Support Systems" has three areas: --- light military
support equipment,
heavy military support equipment, and electronics/automation systems.
----
Since 2000,
following the presidential election and
the 9-11 attacks,
---
the company's federal contracts,
revenues and its stock value have all gone up.
---
Engineered Support Systems has been:
"in the top 100 contractors with the DoD" since 2001.
---
It's contracts with the U.S. military
have totaled over $1 billion.
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On May 1, 2003,
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Engineered Support Systems "acquired" Maryland-based: "Technical and
Management Services, TAMSCO" on May 1, 2003.
---
(See http://www.tamsco.com/
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The following week, TAMSCO announced
that it had "implemented a leading edge" communications technology to:
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support U.S. Army logistics operations in the Middle East upon the
successful fielding of
---
two "Time Division Multiple Access (TDMA)" satellite terminals as part
of:
---
the "Coalition Forces Land Component Command (CFLCC)" project in
Iraq."
---
According to the company,
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"This marked the first time that TDMA technology had been utilized by
the U.S. Army for satellite communications."
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In February 2003,
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"before the invasion of Iraq",
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TAMSCO began its satellite communications network,
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linking: Germany, Iraq and the U.S.
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In a period of "less than" two and a half months, TAMSCO identified
the most:
---
cost-effective technology;
procured, integrated, tested and shipped the equipment;
---
trained soldiers on its installation and maintenance;
---
installed an antenna hub site "in Germany"; installed the network
equipment; and established a help desk operation in Kuwait.
---
The Air Force and Army were both
"offering contracts."
---
The Air Force awarded TAMSCO:
a $44.2 million contract for:
"a radar system in June",
---
another $11.7 million in orders in July,
----
and more than $21.8 million in contracts in August.
---
The Army provided a contract for:
---
a "development project"
----
totaling $700,000 in June, and
$12.8 million in contracts in August 2003.
---
Engineered Support Systems' enterprises
"are profitable for Bucky Bush."
---
He received "consulting fees" of:
--
$2,500 a month in 2002
for serving on "its audit committee",
---
as well as options to buy thousands of shares of stock at $28.42 a
share.
---
The stock now trades at $62.50 a share.
---
As of January, he owned 33,750 shares,
along with his portion of 3.3 million shares owned by all the firm's
officers and directors as a group.
---
The company paid him another $125,000 in fees.
---
William H.T. Bush:
********************
is also "a trustee" for the investment firm "Lord Abbott",
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one of Halliburton's top 10" shareholders and
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also:
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a "top-ten mutual fund holder in Halliburton",
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which has "obtained prime contracts in Iraq."
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Vice President Cheney,
**************************
the former CEO of Halliburton, "still has" between $18 million and $87
million" invested":
---
"through Vanguard",
another top-ten holder in Halliburton stock.
---
Former president George H.W. Bush
*****************************************
"only recently resigned" as a board member of the "finance giant the
Carlyle Group",
---
heavily associated with military and security contracts.
---
The Carlyle Group was 43rd
*******************************
"among federal contractors"
in 2002",
********
with $676.5 million in contracts.
---
In 2003,
*********
the "Carlyle Group moved up to 11th place", with $2.1 billion in
contracts,
**********************************
---
"partly from the war on terrorism" and
"partly from Iraq."
---
"Insiders at the company" also:
--
"cashed in" millions of dollars'
worth of options "in 2003".
---
(See:
http://www.thecarlylegroup.com/eng/
---
Marvin P. Bush,
******************
the youngest brother of George W. Bush,
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shares an interest in "federal contracts" held by companies in his
firm's portfolio.
---
Marvin Bush is also:
---
an "adviser at HCC Insurance",
formerly called the Houston Casualty Company, --- one of the biggest
insurance carriers
for the World Trade Center.
*******************************
Bush was a "director" at HCC,
which has benefited financially from the
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"9-11 insurance bailout legislation"
*************************************
passed by Congress at
***************************
the "instigation" of the White House.
****************************************
---
The "departure of Marvin" from
the HCC board was announced
---
"the same day", November 22, 2002,
as "the passage of the bill."
---
Marvin Bush is:
****************
co-founder and partner in "Winston Partners", a "private investment
firm" which
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is part of a larger firm called the
"Chatterjee Group".
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(See http://www.winstonpartners.com/
____
According to SEC filings:,
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the "Chatterjee Group" consists of:
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Winston Partners, LP;
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Chatterjee Fund Management, LP;
---
Winston Partners II LDC,
a Cayman Islands-based company;
---
Winston Partners II LLC;
---
Chatterjee Advisors LLC;
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Chatterjee Management Company;
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Mr. Chatterjee himself; and
--
Furxedown Trading Limited,
a company organized under
"the laws of the Isle of Man".
---
The address for Winston Partners II LDC is "in the Netherlands
Antilles."
---
The other subsidiaries:
were organized in Delaware.
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Governor Jeb Bush
**********************
is also "an investor" in the
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Winston Capital Fund, which
---
happens to be: "managed by Marvin's firm."
---
According to the Sept 30, 2003,
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issue of Mother Jones,
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an "$80 million Iraq contract" was
"awarded to Nour",
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a company which began in 2003
"with ties to Winston Partners".
---
"Nour" is an "international investment and development company" with
---
more than 100 employees based in Iraq,
*********************************************
and claims expertise in:
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telecommunications,
agribusiness,
internet development,
recruitment,
construction materials,
oil and power services,
*************************
pharmaceuticals and
fashion apparel."
---
In January, 2004,
*******************
Nour was "awarded a $327 million contract" "to equip":
***********
the Iraqi armed forces and
Civil Defense Corps.
---
However, not long after it was awarded,
---
Nour came under heavy scrutiny because
of questions involving:
--
the company's president and
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Ahmed Chalabi,
******************
of the "US appointed Iraqi Governing Council."
**********************************************
(NOTE: CHALABI WAS INDICTED FOR FRAUD BY A MIDDLE EAST COUNTRY BUT NOT
BROUGHT TO COURT; AND
--
CHALABI WAS THE "SOURCE" OF MOST OF THE FABRICATED LIES RE IRAQ'S
WMD")
---
Newsday reported, Chalabi received:
--
a $2 million fee for "helping to arrange"
---
a $80 million contract, that was:
---
actually awarded to a firm called
"Erinys International".
---
Within days of being granted the contract, Erinys became a joint
venture operation with Nour.
---
In addition, after the $327 million contract was awarded:
---
it was revealed that Nour:
"had no prior experience" in
providing military equipment.
---
Nour's response was:
---
"it planned to subcontract"
its weapons procurement to
the Polish firm, "Ostrowski Arms".
--
Unfortunately, "Ostrowski didn't even have" a license to export
weapons.
---
After these concerns,
--
"the Army decided to terminate the contract" with Nour.
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This "added to the delays in body armor"
*********************************************
and other equipment that
"have increased the risks for U.S. soldiers."
**********************************************
---
In May 2004,
**************
"ANHAM", a joint venture "with Nour",
based in Vienna, Va.,
************************
was the winner of a "$259-million contract"
--
to "equip the new Iraqi army" and
"security forces with guns",
****************************
trucks and other equipment.
---
Nour lists "current Iraq projects" with:
*****
---
the Ministry of Oil,
********************
the New Iraqi Army, and
Criminal Intelligence in Iraq,
Security in Iraq.
---
(See http://www.nourusa.com
---
"Winston Partners'":
*********************
also are heavily invested in
"another military contractor, "the Amsec Corp".
---
In 2001,
********
Amsec was awarded $37,722,000 in
**************************************
contracts from the "Navy".
****************************
---
"Marvin Bush's"
****************
long-time business partner,
-----
"Scott Andrews",
*****************
"sits on the "Amsec board of directors", and
---
"the firm's CEO" at the time was:
Michael Braham,
******************
who "used to work for" none other than:
---
Paul Bremer,
**************
the Administrator of
"the Iraq Coalition Provisional Authority."
---
In addition, the "Chatterjee Group" also:
---
owns "5.5 million shares" in
a "security company" known as "Sybase".
---
SEC filings show the shares as:
---
being divided up between,
"Winston Partners LP" with
1,036,075 shares;
---
Winston Partners LDC:
holding 1,317,825 shares; and
---
Winston Partners LLC:
owning 1,221,837 shares.
---
"Sybase" prepared to make:
---
"major profits from the Patriot Act"
long before it was passed.
******************************
---
Sybase created a product called the:
"Sybase PATRIOT Compliance Solution"
---
to track money laundering by terrorists.
---
Sybase also is:
---
a significant government contractor,
---
with contracts from:
---
the Navy ($2.9 million in 2001),
---
the Army ($1.8 million in 2001),
---
the Department of Defense
($5.3 million in 2001),
---
Commerce, the Treasury, Agriculture and the General Services
Administration, among others.
---
The federal procurement database lists Sybase's total awards for 2001
as
$14,754,000.?*********************************
---
In 1993, shortly "after the first gulf war,"
******************************************
Marvin Bush joined his father,
********************************
George H.W. Bush (three months out of office), on a "trip to Kuwait".
---
Where, according to the:
March 16, 2001 Austin Chronicle,:
*************************************
---
"Marvin was representing U.S. defense firms"
--
selling electronic fences to
"the Kuwaiti Defense Ministry".
----
Sources:
*********
Margie Burns,
The Green Bushes:
The Family's Profiteering Goes Unobserved, The Washington Spectator,
February 1, 2004.
----
Margie Burns,
Bush Businesses in Government,
The Progressive Populist, February 16, 2005.
---
Stephen Fidler and Thomas Catan, "Businessmen Use Bush Ties in
Mideast", Financial Times, December 12, 2003.
----
Stephen Fidler and Thomas Catan,
"More Neil Bush Wheeler-Dealer Details: Consultant on Iraq Contracts
Employed President's Brother,
Financial Times, November 28, 2003.
---
Rina Palta ,
"No Bush Left Behind",
Mother Jones Magazine, March/April 2004.
---
Evelyn Pringle,
"Under Reported:"
Jeb, Marvin & Neil -
3 Profiteering Bush Brothers",
Independent Media TV, January 28, 2005.
---
Evelyn Pringle ,
"Why Are We In Iraq" -
- Bush Family $$$ Signs,
Independent Media TV , October 18, 2004.
---?
? 2007 DemocracyRising.US

Rico

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May 18, 2007, 4:46:12 PM5/18/07
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WHILE THIS CASE IS IN A "CIVIL" (NOT CRIMINAL) COURT DUE TO THE CIVIL
SUIT FILED BY THE WILSON'S, THE NEXT STEP, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN
"FIRST", I.E. CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS BY FEDERAL ATTY. GENERAL, GONZALES,
FOR A CLEAR "FELONY" RE "EXPOSING CIA AGENT",
---
SHOULD NOW BE FORCED UPON THE DEPT. OF JUSTICE TO PROSECUTE, SINCE
CHENEY'S ATTY. "IS" ADMITTING THAT CHENEY IS GUILTY.
---
BUT...OF COURSE, THE U.S. ATTY. GENERAL, GONZALES, HIMSELF, IS NEARLY
FACING INDICTMENTS, BUT IT APPEARS CONGRESS WILL HAVE A RESOLUTION
PASSED RE "NO CONFIDENCE" INSTEAD.
--
THIS HOUSE (WHITE) IS SO FULL OF PSYCHOTIC-FASCISTS THAT "IF" IT WAS
TRULY CLEANED OUT, THE ENTIRE BUSH REGIME WOULD BE THROWN IN PRISON.
--
WHAT IS REALLY TELLING IS...CONGRESS HAS REFUSED TO IMPEACH THESE
FASCISTS IF THOUGH THEY HAVE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF "HARD DOCUMENTED
EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY" TO DO SO.
---
CONGRESS HAS THE SAME LOW APPROVAL RATING AS BUSH, YOU WOULD THINK
"THEY WOULD GET IT BY NOW, I.E. THAT "THEY" CONGRESS, WILL NOW BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE FOR "OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE".
---
NEVER HAS THIS NATION SEEN SUCH BLATANT ARROGANCE AND CORRUPTION WHICH
HAS LITERALLY INSTALLED A FASCIST GOVERNMENT.
---
IT SHOULD BE CLEAR TO ALL WHO GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THIS COUNTRY, THAT "WE
NEED A NEW POLITICAL PARTY" AND WE REMOVE "ALL INCUMBENTS" WHO HAVE
OBVIOUSLY DECIDED "THAT FASCISM" IS WHAT THEY WANT US TO BE CONTROLLED
BY.
---
THERE ARE A "FEW", WHO WE COULD COUNT ON ONE HAND, WHO WE COULD KEEP,
BUT "NOT" UNDER THE DEMO OR REPUB PARTY BANNERS.
---
AMERICANS NOW HAVE AN "OPPORTUNITY" TO LOOK FOR THE "NEXT PRESIDENT"
UNDER THIS "NEW PARTY BANNER", WHICH COULD BE, AS "AN INDEPENDENT"
WHILE SETTING UP THE NEW PARTY.
--
HERE IS THE ARTICLE RE CHENEY, CONTACT THE ACLU (LINKS ABOVE) AND ASK
THEM TO REPRESENT ALL AMERICANS TO FORCE THE PROSECUTION OF CHENEY AND
THE REST OF THE BUSH REGIME.
--------
UNBELIEVABLY, ROVE AND CHENEY HAVE A "FREE ATTY", PAID FOR BY "US",
I.E.
--
THE "DEPUTY ATTY.GENERAL"
BECAUSE "THEY ARE BEING SUED AS GOVT. OFFICIALS", AND HE (ATTY) "IS
ADMITTING THAT THEY ILLEGALLY OUTED VALERIE PLAME", WHICH THIS
ATTY. SAYS, AS THEIR SO-CALLED "DEFENSE" WAS "BECAUSE:
---
THEY WERE INVOLVED IN "A POLICY DISPUTE". WOW!
---
THIS IS THE HEIGHT OF FASCISM WHEN A VICE PRES. AND HIS SIDE-KICK
THUGS (ROVE & ARMITAGE) THINK THEY CAN SET A PERSON UP TO BE MURDERED
IN A CLEAR RETALIATION EFFORT, AND SAY:
--
"THEY HAVE "A RIGHT" TO DO THIS".
--
HOPEFULLY THESE PSYCHOPATHS WILL BE
THROWN IN PRISON FOR MANY YEARS.
--
THIS JUDGE IS SURELY UNDER PRESSURE, I.E. TO BE THE ONE WHO FINDS "THE
VICE PRESIDENT "GUILTY" OF THIS CLEAR CRIME, WHICH HE IS CLEARLY
ADMITTING TO BEFORE THIS JUDGE VIA HIS ATTY.
--
PLEASE LET THIS JUDGE HAVE A BACKBONE.
---
Subject:Lawyers for Cheney and Rove Tell Judge, Leak Was Part of
"Policy Dispute"
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051807K.shtml
---
---

Rico

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May 19, 2007, 2:56:53 PM5/19/07
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ONE WOULD THINK THAT THESE EVENTS WERE BEING REPORTED ABOUT RUSSIA,
NOT THE USA, WHERE THE SPEWING MANTRA FROM THE MOUTH OF PRESIDENT BUSH
IS:
--
"THE WORLD NEEDS A GOVERNMENT LIKE OURS WHICH OPERATES UNDER "THE RULE
OF LAW" AND DEMOCRACY".
---
THIS ONE ARTICLE CONTAINS JUST "SOME OF THE BUSH FASCIST ACTIVITIES"
FOR WHICH THIS REGIME SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPRISONED YEARS AGO.
---
PLEASE GO TO MY THREAD AND FIND THE ACLU LINKS AND WRITE THEM AN E-
MAIL ASKING THEM TO HELP US, AMERICANS INDICT THE BUSH REGIME, I.E.
THE ACLU IS LOCATED IN ALL 50 STATES, AS WELL AS U.S. ATTORNEYS.
--
THE ACLU COULD ASK THE U.S. ATTYS. TO FILE THESE INDICTMENTS BASED ON
"HARD EVIDENCE" THAT HAS BEEN MADE PUBLIC.
--
YOU CAN SEND THIS ARTICLE AND THE OTHERS THAT I HAVE POSTED TO THE
ACLU, WHO I AM SURE ALREADY IS AWARE OF THIS "BUT THEY NEED YOUR
LETTERS IN ORDER TO TAKE OUR CASE".
---
Subject:5-17-07-
Triangulating on the Truth - LONG BUT EXCELLENT UPDATE ON BUSH
REGIME'S ILLEGAL & FASCIST ACTIVITY.
---
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2007/05/17/BL2007051701234_pf.html
>
---

Rico

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May 22, 2007, 4:57:22 PM5/22/07
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+++++
ABOVE ARE THE E-MAIL ADDRESSES FOR "YOUR" CONGRESS PERSON.
--
SEND THEM THIS ARTICLE WHICH WAS WRITTEN FOUR YEARS AGO FOR THAT
MEMORIAL HOLIDAY.
--
THEY "NEED TO KNOW" THAT YOU ARE WATCHING THEM AND THEIR ARROGANT
REFUSAL TO IMPEACH THE BUSH REGIME, WHO HAVE PROVEN THEY ARE TRAITORS
TO THIS COUNTRY AND THEY (CONGRESS) ARE CLEARLY IN COLLUSION WITH THEM
AND "YOU HOLD THEM PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS FASCIST GOVERNMENT.
---
Subject:5-23-05 Shout Their Names Into The Wind
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/printer_052703A.shtml
>
---

Rico

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May 24, 2007, 3:51:54 PM5/24/07
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THERE ARE ONLY A "FEW" DEMOCRATS WHO WERE SMART ENOUGH TO "KNOW" THAT
THEY WERE LIED TO BY THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME AND WERE RIGHTFULLY
OUTRAGED.
---
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WERE "ALSO SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THIS AND
DEMANDED THAT THE BUSH REGIME BE HELD LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE AND
IMPEACHED.
--
BUT....EVEN AFTER THESE MILLIONS VOTED THE REPUBLICANS OUT OF OFFICE
(AND THEY ADMIT THEY KNOW WHY) THE DEMOCRATS, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF
PELOSI, ARROGANTLY BRUSHED THESE SAME VOTERS ASIDE AND BLATANTLY
STATED:
--
"IMPEACHMENT IS OFF THE TABLE" AND THIS WAS, AND STILL IS THE MANTRA
OF THE DEMOCRATS.
--
AMERICANS ARE AND SHOULD BE, OUTRAGED BY THIS BETRAYAL, ESPECIALLY
SINCE THE DEMOCRATS ARE NOW DOING "EXACTLY WHAT THE FASCIST BUSH
REGIME WANTS TO DO, I.E. CONTINUE THE ILLEGAL WARS IN IRAQ AND
AFGHANISTAN, BOTH OF WHICH WERE FOR ONE PURPOSE ONLY.."OIL FOR THE
BUSH REGIME AND THEIR OIL CORP BUDDIES".
--
THE REPUBLICANS "KNOW" THAT THEIR PARTY IS LOST DUE TO BEING CAUGHT IN
THIS FRAUD AND CORRUPTION AND THEY CONTINUE TO MOUTH THE "SAME
LIES"...STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.
---
"SOME" DEMOCRATS HAVE NOW DISTANCED THEMSELVES FROM THE "REGULAR
DEMOCRATIC PARTY" AND CALLING THEMSELVES "PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS", SORT
OF LIKE THE DEMO FACTION CALLED: "BLUE DOG DEMOCRATS" WHO ARE MORE
LIKE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, BUT WITH A CONSCIENCE.
---
IT IS TIME THAT "AMERICANS START THEIR OWN "NEW" PARTY, PERHAPS
CALLED:
--
"THE AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY", WHERE ACTUAL "THINKING" AND "CARING"
AMERICANS CAN DECIDE ON THE CANDIDATES WHO HAVE THE "COURAGE TO PUT
AMERICA AND AMERICANS, BEFORE ALL ELSE".
---
IT WILL TAKE TIME TO DO THIS, AS I BELIEVE A NEW POLITICAL PARTY MUST
BE ESTABLISHED IN "EACH STATE" FIRST. BUT IF WE WANT TO SAVE OUR
NATION AND ELIMINATE THE FASCIST GOVERNMENT AND CONGRESS THAT WE
CLEARLY HAVE NOW, WE CAN DO THIS, JUST AS THE MANY STATES ARE NOW
PASSING RESOLUTIONS DEMANDING IMPEACHMENT OF THE BUSH REGIME, I.E.
THERE ARE "MANY GRASS-ROOT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY ACTIVE AND
WE NEED ONLY TO "GET ORGANIZED".
---
HERE IS ONE OF THE EARLIEST DEMOCRATS WHO BROKE LOSE AND HER STATEMENT
REFLECTS THE FEELINGS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.
--
ANOTHER IS REP. DENNIS KUCINICH WHO HAS FOUGHT THIS FASCISM FROM THE
VERY BEGINNING AND SHOULD BE A SERIOUS CONSIDERATION AS OUR NEXT
PRESIDENT.
---
(HE ISN'T TALL DARK AND HANDSOME, BUT HE HAS A REAL THINKING AND
CARING BRAIN, WHICH MONEY CAN'T BUY".)
---
BELOW ARE THE LINKS TO YOUR CONGRESS PEOPLE WITH LINKS TO THE BILLS
THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED NOW AND A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN SEE HOW YOUR
CONGRESS PERSON IS VOTING.
---
LET YOUR CONGRESS PERSON KNOW HOW YOU FEEL AND TELL "YOUR SELF-
SERVING, ARROGANT POLITICIAN, THAT YOU WILL NO LONGER TOLERATE THEIR
ACTS AND WILL BE ACTIVELY SEEKING THEIR RECALL OR REPLACEMENT IN 2008
ELECTION, FOR OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE AND SUPPORTING ILLEGAL ACTS, I.E.
WAR CRIMES.
---
Subject:Woolsey Calls for Broad Measures to Bring Our Troops Home, Not
Capitulation -
---
Progressive Democrats of America
5-24-07-
---
http://pdamerica.org/articles/alliances/2007-05-24-13-09-38-alliances.php
>
---
PLEASE SEE MY OTHER THREADS RE DEMOCRATS LIKE CONLEY, WHO DEMANDED TO
BE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE JUDICIARY OR HE WOULD FILE HIS
IMPEACHMENT BILL. HE GOT HIS WAY AND HIS EGO IS NOW FED, WHILE
DEMOCRATS ARE TOLD TO SHUTUP ABOUT IMPEACHMENT. THESE ARE "THE DEALS
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE DEMO PARTY SO THAT THE BUSH REGIME WILL
CONTINUE ON IT'S WAR-MONGERING MURDERS AND ROBBERY OF OUR TREASURE, SO
THEY CAN "GET THE WORLD'S OIL".
--
++++++++++++

Rico

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May 24, 2007, 4:24:47 PM5/24/07
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++++++++
THIS JUST IN FROM KEITH OBERMAN WHO SUPPORTS WHAT I HAVE JUST SAID
ABOVE, "EXCEPT"....HE IS TOTALLY UNAWARE OF REP. DENNIS KUCINICH, AND
HIS 6 YEAR RECORD OF FIGHTING BUSH'S LIES.
--
AS STATED, AMERICANS "NEED" TO KNOW MORE ABOUT KUCINICH. I WILL MAKE A
POST ABOUT HIM SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT I AM SAYING.
---
Subject:5-24-07-
--
The Entire Government Has Failed Us on Iraq
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052407A.shtml
>

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Rico

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May 24, 2007, 6:14:29 PM5/24/07
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I AM LISTENING AND WATCHING TO THE LYING S.O.B. POLITICIANS WHO ARE
STILL TRYING TO JUSTIFY WHY OUR TROOPS NEED TO STAY AND KILL MORE
CIVILIANS WHO "HAVE A RIGHT" TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST AN INVADING
NATION.
--
WE, AMERICANS WOULD DO THE SAME THING. THE IRAQ ATTACKS AND OCCUPATION
WAS BASED ON BLATANT LIES WHICH THESE SOB'S ARE "STILL SPEWING".
--
ONLY PSYCHOPATHS CAN BE AS DELUSIONAL AND MURDEROUS TO DO THIS.
---
HERE IS A GREAT ARTICLE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE "FASCIST BUSH MILITARY
MACHINES THAT HAVE SLAUGHTERED THESE PEOPLE.
--
YES, WE AMERICANS CAN ALSO BE ACCUSED OF THESE WAR CRIMES, AS LONG AS
WE "ALLOW THESE FASCISTS TO CONTINUE THIS SLAUGHTER", NOT ONLY OF
THESE INNOCENT PEOPLE BUT OF OUR OWN TROOPS WHO HAVE BEEN "ORDERED TO
DO THIS SLAUGHTER" SO MANY TIMES THAT THERE ARE THOUSANDS WHO ARE
ENDING UP IN PSYCHIATRIC WARDS OR IN BODY BAGS.
---
HOW LONG CAN YOU LIVE WITH THIS AMERICANS?
---
Subject:5-24-07-OUR WAR CRIMES-Did the US Lie About Cluster Bomb Use
in Iraq?
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052407E.shtml
>
---

Itchy

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May 24, 2007, 8:44:43 PM5/24/07
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Rico <ric...@webtv.net> wrote in
news:1180036314.6...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

I certainly agree.. there has got to be a alternative to the Republican-
Democrat machine. They are the same. Neither party are about the
American people.. not at all.

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LEG

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May 25, 2007, 5:13:21 PM5/25/07
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IF YOU READ SOME OF MY POSTS ON MY THREADS HERE, YOU WOULD SEE THAT
BUSH IS CONSIDERED "DANGEROUS", BASED ON HIS PSYCHOLOGICAL BACKGROUND
AND ACTIONS.
--
THUS, KNOWING THAT THIS EGOMANICAL LUNATIC HAS CONTROL OVER THE NUKES
WE HAVE NOW AND THAT HE IS WORKING TO GET MORE, AND
---
"CONGRESS IS APPROVING IT", YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WHY THE WORLD IS
LIVING IN FEAR BASED ON BUSH'S "PREEMPTIVE STRIKE POLICY", (WHICH HE
ILLEGALLY USED).
---
THE "FACT" THAT BUSH CONSTANTLY SPEWS "ORDERS TO OTHER COUNTRIES", RE
"THE RULE OF LAW" WHILE VIOLATING ALL OF THEM, IS JUST PART OF HIS
BLATANT FRAUD AND LIES AND "IS" WHY BUSH HAS NO CREDIBILITY, NOR DOES
THE U.S.A.
--
THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE PROVES "AGAIN" BUSH'S HYPOCRITICAL ORDERS AND
LIES.
--
CLEARLY BUSH COULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE WITH A PSYCHIATRIC DIAGNOSIS
OF BEING A PSYCHOPATH AND SENT TO AN INSTITUTION FOR THE "CRIMINALLY
INSANE", YET CONGRESS REFUSES TO EVEN BRING THIS ISSUE UP FOR
DISCUSSION AND INSTEAD..."FUNDS THESE DEPT.'S FOR WMD".
---
Subject:5-23-07-NUKES-Is Bush Leading Us to Nuclear War?
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052507F.shtml
>
---

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May 25, 2007, 7:53:34 PM5/25/07
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"LEG" <LEG...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:1180127601.1...@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

> IF YOU READ SOME OF MY POSTS ON MY THREADS HERE, YOU WOULD SEE THAT
> BUSH IS CONSIDERED "DANGEROUS", BASED ON HIS PSYCHOLOGICAL BACKGROUND
> AND ACTIONS.
> --
Actually, people who read your posts are turned off by your rudeness.
Typing in all caps is akin to yelling.


Rico

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May 28, 2007, 2:43:54 PM5/28/07
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Subject:5-27-07-
--
I Lost My Son to a War I Oppose
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052807Z.shtml
>
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Rico

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May 28, 2007, 3:15:36 PM5/28/07
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++++++
Subject:5-28-07-
--
The Handwriting on the Wall Is Written in Blood
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052807Y.shtml
>
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Rico

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May 29, 2007, 5:04:36 PM5/29/07
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--
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052407A.shtml
> >
----
CINDY SHEEHAN FOUND OUT WHAT I DID BACK IN 1998 WHEN CLINTON IN
COLLUSION WITH HUGE RICH CORPS, AND CONGRESS PASSED THE NAFTA ACT THAT
LEFT MILLIONS OF AMERICAN WORKERS WITHOUT JOBS BECAUSE THE CORPS
CLOSED DOWN THEIR AMERICAN BUSINESSES AND REOPENED THEM IN FOREIGN
COUNTRIES WHERE THEY PAID THE WORKERS PENNIES TO THE DOLLARS THEY HAD
TO PAY IN THE USA.
--
REMEMBER THE BILLIONAIRE, ROSS PEROT WHO RAN FOR PRESIDENT SAYING "YOU
WILL HEAR A GIGANTIC SUCKING SOUND" WHEN THIS HAPPENS?
--
CLINTON ALSO SETUP THE SO-CALLED WELFARE REFORM ACT WHICH THEN DENIED
THE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS, WHO HAD NO JOBS AND LOST THEIR HOMES, THEN
GOT SICK, THESE WELFARE SERVICES "WHICH THESE SAME PEOPLE HAD PAID FOR
VIA TAXES, "WHEN THEY HAD JOBS".
---
WELL, CINDY IS NOW FACING ALL OF THE ABOVE, I.E. NO JOB, NO HOME AND
ALMOST DIED WHEN SHE GOT SICK.
--
I WAS A DEMOCRAT FOR 30 YEARS UP UNTIL 1996 WHEN THE DEMOS PULLED THIS
CRAP ON THE WORKING AMERICAN, AND ME.
--
I TOO TORE UP MY DEMOCRAT PARTY CARD AND BECAME AN INDEPENDANT VOTER
AND EVEN RAN FOR GOVERNOR, KNOWING FULL WELL I WOULDN'T BE ELECTED
BECAUSE I WAS AN UNKNOWN WITH NO MONEY...BUT, I WAS ABLE TO GET FREE
MEDIA TIME AND USED IT TO TELL THE WORKING AMERICANS "HOW THEIR
CORRUPT AND GREEDY GOVT. IS TREATING THE "WORKING POOR".
---
I GOT NEARLY 5,000 VOTES WHICH LET ME KNOW THAT THEIR WERE AT LEAST
5,000 PEOPLE WHO "KNEW" EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
---
THE USA HAS NEARLY LOST IT'S "MIDDLE INCOME WORKER" SO NOW IT IS "THE
RICH VS POOR" AND BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES ARE OFFERING THESE SAME HUGE
CORPS "MORE TAX CUTS AND OFF-SHORE BANKING" WHICH WAS DONE WHEN THE
"MINIMUM WAGE" BILL WAS PASSED.
---
CINDY NOW KNOWS HOW A FASCIST GOVT. OPERATES AND HOW WELL ORGANIZED
THIS "ONE PARTY"; MADE UP OF BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES IS IN CONTROL OF
US.
--
NOT UNTIL THE "WORKING POOR" GET MAD AS HELL AND START TAKING ACTION
WILL THIS FASCISM BE BROKEN UP. IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT "THE POOR" HAVE
LOST ALL HOPE AND WON'T EVEN REGISTER TO VOTE, MUCH LESS VOTE.
---
FACT: THERE ARE "MORE WORKING POOR" NOW THEN THERE ARE "RICH OR MIDDLE
INCOME PEOPLE" IN THE USA NOW.
--
RECALL THE DATA OF:
--
45 MILLION AMERICANS DON'T HAVE MEDICAL INSURANCE? WELL, THERE ARE 45
MILLION PEOPLE WHO COULD BE VOTERS.
--
AS I HAVE SAID, MANY TIMES HERE:
--
(1) WE ALL NEED TO SEND AN E-MAIL TO OUR LOCAL ACLU AND ASK THEM TO
REPRESENT US IN A "CIVIL LAWSUIT" AGAINST THE BUSH REGIME AND
CONGRESS, OVER THEIR "ROBBING OUR TREASURY ON THE "FALSE CLAIM", OF
HAVING TO GO TO AN ILLEGAL WAR (IRAQ) BASED ON FRAUD AND DECEIT OF
WHICH OUR CONGRESS REFUSES TO HOLD THE BUSH REGIME ACCOUNTABLE AND IN
FACT, CONTINUES ROBBING US.
---
(2) SEND AN E-MAIL TO THE UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL ASKING THAT
THEY "REFER OUR CRIMINAL COMPLAINT TO THE "INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL
COURT" FOR PROSECUTION OF "WAR CRIMES", WHEN IRAQ WAS "NO THREAT",
MUCH LESS AN "IMMINENT THREAT" TO THE U.S.A. WHICH IS REQUIRED IN
ORDER TO MAKE A "PREEMPTIVE STRIKE".
--
(3) WE, THE PEOPLE "MUST GET ORGANIZED TO GET A GOOD AND HONEST
PRESIDENT IN 2008 AND REPLACE ALL OF THE DEMS & REPUBS IN CONGRESS WHO
WILL BE UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2008.
--
(4) "WE" AMERICANS MUST START OUR OWN POLITICAL PARTY, "THE AMERICAN
INDEPENDENT PARTY" WHICH REQUIRES ALL CANDIDATES TO "TAKE AN OATH"
THAT WE HAVE WRITTEN ENSURING IMMEDIATE REMOVAL IF CONVICTED OF
VIOLATING THE STATE & FED LAWS, AS WELL AS OUR STATE AND U.S.
CONSTITUTIONS.
+++++
WE CAN DO THIS AMERICANS AND WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE CINDY SHEEHAN TO HELP
ORGANIZE THIS.
--
AS CINDY HAS STATED, IT IS "NOT ENOUGH" TO JUST POST ARTICLES ON THE
INTERNET OR MARCH IN PROTEST AGAINST OUR FASCIST GOVERMENT.
--
WE "MUST" TAKE REAL ACTION NOW BY GETTING ORGANIZED AND GETTING OUR
2008 CANDIDATES OUT THERE SO WE KNOW WE CAN MAKE CHANGES "RIGHT AT THE
TOP, I.E. PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT WHO CONTROL "ALL OF THE FEDERAL
AGENCIES".
---
I SUGGEST WE CONTACT RALPH NADER, WHO HAS TRIED TO DO THIS MANY TIMES
BUT NEITHER THE REPUBS OR DEMOS WOULD LEAVE THEIR CORRUPT PARTIES.
--
I ALSO SUGGEST WE CONTACT DENNIS KUCINICH WHO HAS BEEN FIGHTING
AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR FROM THE GITGO AND RECENTLY SAID HE WOULD FILE A
RESOLUTION FOR IMPEACH OF CHENEY, WHO WAS THE BRAINS BEHIND ALL OF THE
FRAUD AND CORRUPTION.
---
IF YOU AGREE, PLEASE SEND THIS POST TO ACLU (LINK POSTED SEPARATELY ON
THIS THREAD) AND THE U.N.; AS WELL AS TO NADER AND KUCINICH AND THE
"OTHER ANTI-WAR ORGANIZATIONS" WHICH I WILL POST ON THIS THREAD.
---
"YOU,,,EACH OF YOU" MUST THEN FIND OUT WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP OUT
NADER AND KUCINICH (WHO MUST LEAVE THE DEMOS) IN ORDER TO GET ELECTED.
--
HERE ARE 3 SEPARATE LETTERS THAT CINDY SHEEHAN WROTE STATING THAT "SHE
IS QUITTING" AFTER 3 YEARS OF "REAL HARD WORK TO GET THE IRAQ WAR
STOPPED".
-----
3 articles-Sheehan Quits as Face of US Anti-War Fight
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052907A.shtml
>
---

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LEG

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THIS IS A "RECENT ACCOUNT" OF A KKK MEMBER WHO WAS WANTED DECADES AGO
AND JUST RECENTLY CAUGHT.
--
AS YOU WILL READ, THE U.S. LAW ENFORCEMENT REFUSED TO GO AFTER THESE
U.S. TERRORISTS BECAUSE, "LIKE BUSH", THOSE IN POWER FEEL THEY "HAVE
THE RIGHT" TO DECIDE "WHO LIVES AND WHO DIES" WHICH "IS" THE DEMEANOR
OF PSYCHOPATHS, MANY OF WHOM CLAIM THEY ARE SO CLOSE TO GOD, THAT "GOD
TELLS THEM WHO SHOULD BE KILLED"..JUST LIKE BUSH AND HIS PSYCHOTIC
REGIME, WHO CALL THE CITIZENS OF ANOTHER COUNTRY "TERRORISTS" WHEN
THEY KILL THE KILLERS WHO HAVE ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED "THEIR COUNTRIES"
AND GO DOOR TO DOOR TO KILL THE CITIZENS OR LOCK THEM UP AND TORTURE
THEM, I.E. THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME ACTS LIKE THE KKK DID AGAINST THE
CITIZENS OF THE USA.
--
HERE IS A RECENT ARTICLE THAT BUSH WON'T ADDRESS RE THE KKK. THE
HYPOCRISY OF THE BUSH REGIME'S TERRORISM IS SO BLATANT THAT ONE NEEDS
ONLY SUBSTITUTE THE WORD "BUSH REGIME" IN ANY STATEMENT WHERE BUSH
USES THE WORD "TERRORIST". SO WHY AREN'T THE MEDIA MAKING THIS "AN
ISSUE" AND CONGRESS MAKING IT "AN ISSUE FOR IMPEACHMENT"?
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Subject:5-30-07-
U.S.TERRORISTS-"KKK"
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/053007P.shtml
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Subject:
Organized Crime - The Mafia-IN USA
http://organizedmafia.tripod.com/
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AIR AMERICA-School of the Americas Opponents Seek New Vote
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THIS SHOULDN'T COME AS ANY SURPRISE TO ANYONE, EXCEPT TO THE VERY
IGNORANT.
--
BUSH & HIS FASCIST REGIME HAS BEEN LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH FROM THE
VERY BEGINNING, I.E. "REASON" TO ATTACK AND OCCUPY IRAQ.
--
THEY CONSTANTLY "CHANGED THEIR FRAUDULENT REASONS FROM WMD TO
LIBERATION.
--
MOST OF BUSH'S REGIME "LIED TO CONGRESS AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE",
UNDER OATH AND THROUGH THEIR MANY PUBLIC PROPAGANDA STATEMENTS, (JUST
AS THEY DID VIA WMD) MAKING THIS A FEDERAL FELONY UNDER TITLE 18,

WHICH I WILL POST ON THIS THREAD.
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HERE ARE TWO ARTICLES FROM BUSH'S APPOINTEES, THAT PROVE THEY WANT TO
STAY IN IRAQ PERMANENTLY, MAKING IT A "CONTROLLED BASE" FROM WHICH
THEY CAN ATTACK OTHER MIDDLE EAST COUNTRIES, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT
HAVE OIL.
---
AGAIN, WE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE VIA THE ACLU CAN SUE THE BUSH REGIME
FOR FRAUD IN THE CIVIL COURTS, WHILE ASKING THE ACLU TO ALSO CONTACT
THE U.S. ATTORNEYS TO FILE FEDERAL INDICTMENTS FOR PROSECUTION OF THIS
FRAUD AND CONSPIRACY.
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Subject:6-01-07-
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Bush Administration Calls for Permanent US Bases in Iraq
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/060107A.shtml
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NOTE:
(1) THIS EMBASSY SHOULD NOW BE ABOUT COMPLETED, WHICH WILL HOLD "OVER
5,000" SO-CALLED EMPLOYEES.
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(2) CONGRESS "APPROVED" THE PAYMENT FOR THIS, WHICH CLEARLY PROVES
"THEY KNEW" ALL ABOUT THIS "PERMANENT BASE PLAN", OTHERWISE THEY
WOULDN'T HAVE SPENT THE MULTI-MILLIONS OF "OUR" DOLLARS TO DO THIS.
--
AGAIN..CONGRESS PROVES THEY ARE IN COLLUSION WITH THE BUSH REGIME TO
FURTHER THIS FASCIST GLOBAL EXPANSION PLAN, I.E. "CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT
FRAUD".
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AS YOU CAN READ, THE U.S.SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE PRODUCED
"A REPORT" ABOUT THIS EMBASSY, MOST OF WHICH "IS SECRET"..LIKE ALL OF
THEIR ILLEGAL ACTS.
--
Subject:
U.S. EMBASSY IN IRAQ-LARGER THAN THE U.N. & CONSIDERED TO BE A "MINI-
STATE" INSIDE A FOREIGN COUNTRY (IRAQ), LIKE THE VATICAN IS TO ITALY.
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Subject:New embassy in Iraq a mystery -
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319798/
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New U.S. Embassy in Iraq cloaked in mystery Baghdad locale, slated to
be completed in 2007, to be largest of its kind
AP file
---
PHOTO
Construction cranes loom above the site of the new U.S. Embassy being
built in Baghdad. The embassy will sit on 104 acres, six times larger
than the United Nations compound in New York and two-thirds the
acreage
of Washington's National Mall.
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BAGHDAD, Iraq - The fortress-like compound rising beside the Tigris
River here will be the largest of its kind in the world, the size of
Vatican City, with the population of a small town, its own defense
force, self-contained power and water, and a precarious perch at the
heart of Iraq's turbulent future.
----
The new U.S. Embassy also seems as "cloaked in secrecy" as:
the mini-state
**************
in Rome.
*******
---
"We can't talk about it. Security reasons," Roberta Rossi, a
spokeswoman at the current embassy, said when asked for information
about the project.
---
A British tabloid even told readers
---
"the location was being kept secret"
---
- news that would surprise Baghdadis who for months have watched the
forest of construction cranes at work across the winding Tigris, at
the very center of their city and within easy mortar range of anti-
U.S.
forces in the capital, though fewer explode there these days.
---
The embassy complex - 21 buildings on 104 acres, according to a U.S.
Senate Foreign Relations Committee report -
---
is taking shape on
riverside parkland in the fortified "Green Zone," just east of
al-Samoud, a former palace of Saddam Hussein's, and across the road
from the building where the ex-dictator is now on trial.
---
"The Republican Palace",
---
where U.S. Embassy functions are temporarily
housed in cubicles among the chandelier-hung rooms, is less than a
mile away in the 4-square-mile zone, an enclave of American and Iraqi
government offices and lodgings ringed by miles of concrete barriers.
---
5,500 employees at the embassy
*************************************
The 5,500 Americans and Iraqis working at the embassy, almost half
listed as security, are far more numerous than at any other U.S.
mission worldwide.
---
They rarely venture out into the "Red Zone," that
is, violence-torn Iraq.
---
This huge American contingent at the center of power has drawn
criticism.
---
"The presence of a massive U.S. embassy - by far the largest in the
world -
---
co-located in the Green Zone with the Iraqi government
---
is seen by Iraqis as an indication of who actually exercises power in
their
country,"
---
the "International Crisis Group",
a European-based research group, said in one of its periodic reports
on
Iraq.
---
State Department spokesman Justin Higgins defended the size of the
embassy, old and new, saying:
---
it's indicative of the work facing the United
**********************************************
States here.
*************
"It's somewhat self-evident that there's going to be a fairly sizable
commitment to Iraq by the U.S. government in all forms for several
years," he said in Washington.
---
Higgins noted that large numbers of non-diplomats work at the mission
-
---
hundreds of military personnel and
---
dozens of FBI agents, for example, along with
----
representatives of the Agriculture,
---
Commerce and other U.S. federal departments.
----
They sleep in hundreds of trailers or "containerized" quarters
scattered around the Green Zone.
---
But next year embassy staff will move into "six apartment buildings in
the new complex",
**********************************************
which has been under construction since mid-2005 with a target
completion date of June 2007.
---
Iraq's interim government "transferred the land"
**********************************************
to U.S. ownership in October 2004,
***************************************
under an agreement whose terms
*************************************
were not disclosed.
*********************
---
"Embassy Baghdad" will dwarf new U.S. embassies elsewhere, projects
that typically cover 10 acres.
---
The embassy's 104 acres is six times
larger than the United Nations compound in New York, and two-thirds
the
acreage of Washington's National Mall.
----
Estimated cost of over $1 billion
************************************
Original cost estimates ranged over $1 billion, but ---
Congress
appropriated only $592 million in the emergency Iraq budget adopted
last year.
---
Most has gone to a Kuwait builder,
"First Kuwaiti Trading & Contracting",
with the rest awarded to six contractors working on the project's
"classified" portion - the actual embassy offices.
---
Higgins declined to identify those builders, citing security reasons,
but said five were American companies.
*********************************************
---
The designs aren't publicly available, but the "Senate report" makes
clear it will be a "self-sufficient and "hardened" domain", to
function
in the midst of Baghdad power outages, water shortages and continuing
turmoil.
---
It will have its own ********************
water wells, electricity plant and
wastewater-treatment facility, "systems to allow 100 percent
independence from city utilities,"
---
says the report, the most authoritative open source on the embassy
plans.
---
Besides two major diplomatic office buildings, homes for the
ambassador
and his deputy, and the apartment buildings for staff,
---
the compound will offer:
a swimming pool,
gym,
commissary,
food court and
American Club,
all housed in a recreation building.
----
Security, overseen by U.S. Marines,
will be extraordinary:
----
setbacks and perimeter no-go areas that will be especially deep,
structures reinforced to 2.5-times the standard, and five high-
security
entrances, plus an emergency entrance-exit, the Senate report says.
----
Higgins said the work, under way on all parts of the project, is more
than one-third complete.
----
MORE FROM CONFLICT IN IRAQ
---
WP: Battling for Iraqi soldiers' hearts.
---
Rice: U.S. won't quit on Iraq.
---
Clinton leads delegation to Iraq.
---
Rice: Bush OK'd raids on
Iranians.
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Activists protest '20,000 extra targets'.
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Conflict in Iraq
Section Front
2006 MSNBC.com

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Subject:12-04-06

If the U.S. is ultimately leaving Iraq, why is the military building
'permanent' bases?
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http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm
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IT MAKES ME WANT TO VOMIT TO HEAR THESE POWER-HUNGRY POLITICIANS LIE
TO US CONTINUALLY.
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THEIR PSYCHOTIC DELUSIONS OF TELLING US "THEY JUST MADE A MISTAKE"
WHEN "THEY KNEW" THEY APPROVED OF THE ILLEGAL INVASON AND KILLING
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, WILL BE ENOUGH, BECAUSE
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"WE, THE PEOPLE ARE JUST TOO STUPID TO KNOW, THEY ARE JUST AS GUILTY
AS THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME OF "WAR CRIMES".
--
MC CAIN, WHO WANTS TO BE "OUR NEXT PRESIDENT" WHICH PROVES "HE KNOWS
THAT THE BUSH REGIME; and CONGRESS; AND OBVIOUSLY HIMSELF, (IF
ELECTED),
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WILL "CONTINUE TO BUILD AN AMERICAN EMPIRE IN THE MIDDLE EAST", WITH
BASE BEING IN IRAQ, JUST LIKE THE NEO-CONS' PNAC PLAN CALLS FOR.
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AS YOU CAN SEE, HE THINKS WE ARE SO STUPID WE WOULD VOTE FOR HIM.
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AGAIN, THIS IS "WHY CONGRESS REFUSES TO HOLD THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME
LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ILLEGAL ACTS, I.E.
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"MOST ARE GUILTY OF THESE "WAR CRIMES" AND STILL WANT TO SETUP THIS
AMERICAN EMPIRE.
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THE WORLD IS WATCHING US, THE PEOPLE OF THE U.S.A., WHO ARE "NOT"
DOING ANYTHING TO GET RID OF THIS FASCIST GOVERNMENT. ?---
AS STATED, THEY CAN ALL BE PROSECUTED UNDER THE "INTERNATIONAL
CRIMINAL COURT (I.C.C.) "IF" WE SEND OUR LETTERS TO THE U.N. SECURITY
COUNCIL.
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Subject:
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McCain: Americans Will Be In Iraq For A Long Long Time -2-20-07
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http://www.news4jax.com/print/11063943/detail.html
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News4Jax.com
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(PHOTO)
John McCain Campaign Image
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POSTED: 1:59 pm EST February 20, 2007
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ATLANTA
--
Republican presidential hopeful John McCain said Tuesday
that:
---
American forces are in for a long, difficult stay in Iraq and
---
likened it to the United States' decades-long presence in South Korea.
---
"I think we're there ******************** for a long, long
****************
time,"
*****
McCain told reporters during a stop at the Georgia Capitol.
---
"We've been in South Korea for a long, long time also."
---
The comments came a day after McCain blasted former Defense Secretary
Donald Rumsfeld for: ---
"mismanaging the war in Iraq."
---
McCain said Monday that:
Rumsfeld would be remembered as one of the "worst defense chiefs in
the nation's history."
---
Asked if his criticism extended to President Bush for keeping Rumsfeld
around as long as he did, McCain said:
--
"there was plenty of blame to go around." ---
"I am being critical of everybody including:
**********************************************
"all of us who are responsible for "mistakes"
**********************************************
that we've made in the war,"
******************************
the Arizona senator said.
"Including myself."
*******************
---
"I have said many times that:
--
I am critical, but the president has the right to choose his team,"
McCain said.
---
McCain paid a visit to the statehouse in Atlanta on Tuesday in an
attempt to rally support with Republican state lawmakers.
--
He met also
with GOP Gov. Sonny Perdue. He was escorted around the Capitol by
Georgia state Republican Party Chairman Alec Poitevint, a McCain
supporter, and former U.S. Sen. Phil Gramm, of Texas.
---
With the state Legislature in session, Georgia's Capitol was crowded
and onlookers stopped to gawk at the war hero-turned-senator as he
moved by. McCain stopped at one point to have his picture taken with a
group of tiara-wearing child beauty queens.
---
McCain has been attempting to:
***********************************
shore up support among:
****************************
"religious conservatives in the Bible Belt"
*********************************************
and was set to continue a campaign swing in South Carolina later
Tuesday.
---
Speaking to reporters after a private meeting with Perdue, McCain
reaffirmed:
his opposition to abortion.
*****************************
---
"I have a 24-year pro-life voting record," McCain said. "I have always
been pro-life and my voting record indicates that."
---
His visit comes just a day before former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt
Romney, a rival for the Republican nomination, holds a a fund raiser
in the Peach State.
---
Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press.

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RIGHT OUT OF THE ARROGANT MOUTH OF CHENEY, HE TELLS ALL THAT THE
NEOCON'S PLAN IS TO USE IRAQ AS A "BASE" TO INVADE ALL OF THE MIDEAST
COUNTRIES THEY WANT TO, DURING THE NEXT 20 TO 40 YEARS.
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THIS AMERICANS IS YOUR FASCIST GOVERNMENT TALKING.
---
SO "WHY" IS CONGRESS SO QUIET ABOUT WHAT CHENEY IS SAYING, IF THEY
DISAGREE WITH IT, UNLESS,
OF COURSE, THEY DON'T?
---
QUESTION:
CHENEY "KNOWS" HE AND BUSH WILL BE GONE, SO "WHY" IS HE SO CONFIDENT
THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN?
---
ANSWER: BECAUSE.. "WE DON'T CONTROL OUR OWN GOVERNMENT." ---
Subject: NEO-CON-CHENEY-IRAQ WAR WILL SET U.S. POLICY FOR NEXT 20 TO
40 YEARS.
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URL TO ORIGINAL ON BOTTOM OF ARTICLE
----
White House: We will send more troops in Iraq Story
---
Highlights
**
President Bush:
---
"I've made my decision. And we're going forward"
***
Vice President Cheney says:
--
congressional critics won't influence
troop plans
***
Cheney says:
---
Democratic critics don't have coherent alternative to
Bush strategy
***
Cheney says:
giving up fight in Iraq would send wrong message to
enemies
***
WASHINGTON (AP)
-- President Bush, facing opposition from both parties
over his plan to send more troops to Iraq, said:
***
"he has the authority" to act no matter what
**********************************************
Congress wants.
*******************
"I fully understand they could try to stop me from doing it. But I've
made my decision. And we're going forward,"
***
Bush told CBS' "60 Minutes":
in an interview to air Sunday night.
***
Vice President, Dick Cheney
*********************************
asserted that:
**
lawmakers' criticism "will not influence Bush's plans" and
***
he dismissed any effort to "run a war by committee."
***
"The president is the commander in chief.
***
He's the one who has to make these tough decisions," Cheney said.
***
The defiant White House stance comes as both the House and Senate, now
controlled by Democrats,
***
prepare to vote on resolutions that oppose additional U.S. troops in
Iraq.
***
Cheney said:
*************
those "nonbinding votes" would
"not affect Bush's ability" to carry out his policies.
***
"He's the guy who's got to decide how to use the force and where to
deploy the force," Cheney said. ***
"And "Congress obviously "has to" support
**********************************************
the effort" through "the power of the purse."
**********************************************
So they've got a role to play, and we certainly recognize that. But
you
also cannot run a war by committee."
***
Any attempts to block Bush's efforts would undermine the troops,
Cheney said. ***
He took particular aim at Democratic lawmakers who have blasted the
president for increasing troops "despite opposition" from:
**********************************************
Congress,
military advisers and
a disgruntled electorate
***
that in November ousted the Republicans as the majority party on
Capitol Hill.
***
"They have absolutely nothing to offer in its place," Cheney said of
Democratic leaders.
---
"I have yet to hear a coherent policy from the Democratic side."
***
Yet many Republican lawmakers, too, have begun to criticize Bush's war
management.
***
Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel, for example, said last week:
***
he feared Bush's plan would be the worst foreign policy blunder since
the Vietnam War.
***
Responding to that, Cheney said:
*************************************
the most dangerous blunder would be to give up "on the "global fight
***************
against terrorism "
******************
because the United States has decided the war in Iraq is too
difficult.
---
That is just what America's terrorist enemies are counting on, he
said.
***
"They're convinced that the United States will pack it in and go home
if they just kill enough of us," Cheney said.
**********************************************
"They can't beat us in a standup fight,
but they think they "can break our will."
***
Bush announced last week he will send 21,500 more troops to Iraq to
halt violence, mainly around Baghdad, as an essential step toward
stabilizing the country's government.
***
That plan -- along with economic and political steps -- are meant to
allow Iraqis to move ahead with securing the country themselves and
---
allow U.S. troops to gradually return home. (Full story)
***
Like Bush, though, Cheney said:
************************************
Americans need to look at the war in Iraq as
**********************************************
part of a "much
***************
longer effort."
********************************
***
"This is an existential conflict," Cheney said.
---
"It is the kind of
conflict that's going to:
*******************************************
"drive our "policy
******************
and our government"
******************************************
for the next 20 or
******************
30 or 40 years.
****************
---
"We have to prevail and we have to
have the stomach for the fight long
**************
term."
********************
--
The White House also said Sunday that:
***
Iranians are aiding the insurgency in Iraq and
---
the U.S. has the
authority to pursue them
**********************************************
because they "put our people at risk."
****************************************
"We are going to "need to deal" with
what Iran is doing inside Iraq,"
************
national security adviser Stephen Hadley said.
**********************************************
Added Cheney:
*****************
"Iran is fishing in troubled waters inside Iraq."
***
The U.S. military in Baghdad said:
---
"five Iranians arrested in northern Iraq last week were connected to:
***
an "Iranian Revolutionary Guard faction" that funds and arms
insurgents
in Iraq.
***
"We do not want them doing what they can to "destabilize the
situation" inside Iraq,"
Cheney said.
***************
***
Bush's revised war strategy "seeks to isolate Iran and Syria",
---
which the U.S. has accused of fueling attacks in Iraq.
***
The president also says:
---
Iran and Syria have not done enough to block terrorists from entering
Iraq over their borders.
***
"We know there are jihadists moving from Syria into Iraq. ... We know
also that Iran is supplying elements in Iraq that are attacking Iraqis
and attacking our forces," Hadley said.
***
"What the president made very clear is these are activities that are
going on in Iraq that are unacceptable.
---
They put our people at risk. He said very clearly that "we will take
action against those".
---
We will interdict their operations,
---
we will disrupt their supply lines,
---
we will disrupt these attacks," Hadley said.
***
"We are going to need to deal with
***************************************
"what Iran is doing inside Iraq."
*********************************
**
Iran's government denied the five detainees were involved in financing
and arming insurgents and said they should be released.
***
Hadley was interviewed on:
--
"This Week" on ABC and "Meet the Press" on NBC.
***
Cheney was on "Fox News Sunday."
***
Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/14/US.iraq.ap

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IT SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR TO ALL AMERICANS NOW, OUR G.I.S ARE BEING
KILLED BY THE VERY PEOPLE WHO THE BUSH REGIME HAS ARMED AND TRAINED,
AND OUR CONGRESS HAS SUPPLIED BUSH WITH THE MULTI-BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
TO "CONTINUE THIS MURDER".
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HERE IS WHAT IS "ACTUALLY HAPPENING" TO OUR SONS WHO HAVE BEEN
"ORDERED" TO BE TARGETS & DIE.
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Subject:5-27-07-PT 1-(95% of GIs in Iraq are no longer true believers
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http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/27/news/delta.php
>
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(PHOTO)
Staff Sergeant James Griffin talking to locals in Khadamiya, Iraq.
(Michael Kamber/NYT)
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With allies in enemy ranks,
GIs in Iraq are no longer true believers
---
By Michael Kamber
Published: May 27, 2007
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BAGHDAD:
Staff Sergeant, David Safstrom
---
does not regret his previous tours in Iraq, not even a difficult
second stint when two comrades were killed while trying to capture
insurgents.
---
"In Mosul, in 2003, it felt like we were making the city a better
place," he said.
---
"There was "no sectarian violence",
Saddam was gone, we were tracking down the bad guys. It felt awesome."
---
But now on "his third deployment" in Iraq, he is no longer a believer
in the mission.
---
The pivotal moment came, he says, this past February when:
---
soldiers killed a man setting a roadside bomb.
---
When they searched the bomber's body,
**********************************************
they found identification showing him to be a
**********************************************
sergeant in the Iraqi Army.
*****************************
---
"I thought, 'What are we doing here?
Why are we still here?' "
said Safstrom, a member of Delta Company of the 1st Battalion, 325th
Airborne Infantry, 82nd Airborne Division.
---
"We're helping guys that are trying to kill us.
**********************************************
We help them in the day.
They turn around at night and try to kill us."
**********************************************
---
His views are echoed by most of his fellow
**********************************************
soldiers in Delta Company,
******************************
renowned for its aggressiveness.
************************************
"A small minority" of Delta Company soldiers -
--
"the younger, more recent enlistees"
in particular -
"seem to still wholeheartedly support the war."
---
Others are ambivalent,
---
torn between fear of losing more friends in battle,
---
longing for their families and
---
a desire to complete their mission.
---
With few reliable surveys of soldiers' attitudes, it is impossible to
simply extrapolate from the small number of soldiers in Delta Company.
---
But in interviews with more than a dozen soldiers over a one-week
period, most said:
---
they were disillusioned by repeated deployments,
---
by what they saw as the abysmal performance of Iraqi security forces
and
---
by a conflict that they considered a civil war,
---
one they had no ability to stop.
---
They had seen "shadowy militia commanders" installed as Iraqi Army
officers,
----
they said, had come under increasing attack from roadside bombs -
---
"planted within sight" of Iraqi Army checkpoints - and
---
had fought against Iraqi soldiers
whom they thought were their allies.
****************************************
---
"In 2003, 2004,
100% of the soldiers wanted to be here,
to fight this war,"
said Sergeant First Class, David Moore,
---
a self-described "conservative Texas Republican" and
---
platoon sergeant
---
who strongly advocates an American
******************************************
withdrawal.
************
"Now, 95% of my platoon agrees with me."
**********************************************
--
It is not a question of loyalty, the soldiers insist.
---
Safstrom, for example, comes from a thoroughly military family. His
mother and father have served in the armed forces, as have his three
sisters, one brother and several uncles.
---
One week after the Sept. 11 attacks,
he walked into a recruiter's office and joined the army.
---
"You guys want to start a fight in my backyard, I got something for
you," he recalls thinking at the time.
--
But in Safstrom's view,
the American presence is futile.
***********************************
"If we stayed here for 5, even 10 more years, the day we leave here
"these guys will go crazy," he said.
---
"It would go straight into a civil war. That's how it feels, like
we're putting a Band-Aid on this country until we leave here."
---
Their many deployments have added to the strain.
---
After spending six months in Iraq,
the soldiers of Delta Company had been home for only 24 hours last
December when the news came.
---
"Change your plans," they recall being told. "We're going back to
Iraq."
---
Nineteen days later, just after Christmas, Captain Douglas Rogers and
the men of Delta Company were on their way to Khadimiya, a Shiite
enclave of about 300,000.
---
As part of the "so-called surge" of American troops, their "primary
mission" was:
---
"to maintain stability in the area" and
"to prepare the Iraqi Army and police"
to take control of the neighborhood.
---
"I thought it would not be long before we could just stay on our base
and act as a quick-reaction force,"
said the barrel-chested Rogers of San Antonio, Texas.
---
"The Iraqi security forces would step up."
---
It has not worked out that way. Still, Rogers says their mission in
Khadimiya has been "an amazing success."
---
"We've captured 4 of the top 10 most-wanted guys in this area," he
said. And the streets of Khadimiya are filled with shoppers and the
stores are open,
---
he added, a rarity in Baghdad due partly to Delta Company's patrols.
---
Rogers acknowledges the skepticism of many of his soldiers.
---
"Our unit has already sent two soldiers home in a box," he said.
---
"My soldiers don't see the same level of commitment from the Iraqi
Army units they're partnered with."
---
(Page 2 of 2)
---
Yet there is, he insists, no crisis of morale: "My guys are all
professionals. I tell them to do something, they do it."
--
His dictum is proven on patrol, where his soldiers walk the streets
for hours in the stifling heat, providing cover for one another with a
crisp efficiency.
---
On April 29,
a Delta Company patrol was responding to a tip at the Sadr mosque, a
short distance from its base.
---
The soldiers saw men in the distance erecting burning barricades, and
the streets emptied out quickly.
---
Then a militia, believed to be the Mahdi army, began firing at them
from rooftops and windows.
---
Sergeant Kevin O'Flarity, a squad leader, jumped into his Humvee to
join his fellow soldiers, racing through abandoned Iraqi Army and
police checkpoints to the battle site.
---
He and his squad maneuvered their Humvees through alleyways and side
streets, firing back at an estimated 60 insurgents during a gunfight
that raged for two and a half hours.
---
A rocket-propelled grenade glanced off O'Flarity's Humvee, failing to
penetrate.
When the battle was over, Delta Company learned that:
---
"among the enemy dead" were
"at least two Iraqi Army soldiers"
that American forces had helped train and arm.
**********************************************
---
Rogers admits that, "the 29th was a watershed moment in a negative
sense, because
---
the Iraqi Army would not fight with us," he said,
******************************************
adding that "some actually picked up weapons and fought against us."
---
The battle changed the attitude among his soldiers toward the war, he
said.
---
"Before that fight,
there were a few true believers."
***********************************
Rogers said.
---
"After the 29th, I don't think you'll find a true
**********************************************
believer in this unit.
*********************
"They're paratroopers. There's no question they'll fulfill their
mission.
---
"But they're fighting now for pride in their unit, professionalism,
loyalty to their fellow soldier and chain of command."
---
To O'Flarity,:
"the Iraqi security forces are militias
"beholden to local leaders",
******************************
not the Iraqi government.
****************************
"Half of the Iraqi security forces are insurgents,"
**********************************************
he said.
---
As for his views on the war, O'Flarity said,
---
"I don't believe we should be here in
******************************************
the middle of a civil war."
**************************
---
"We've all lost friends over here," he said. "Most of us don't know
what we're fighting for
**********************************************
anymore.
*********
"We're serving our country and friends,
but the only reason we go out every day
is for each other."
******************
"I don't want any more of my guys to get hurt or die. If it was
something I felt righteous about, maybe.
---
But for this country and this conflict,
****************************************
no, it's not worth it."
********************
---
Copyright ? 2007 the International Herald Tribune All rights reserved
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THIS IS LIKE SOME ENDLESS SORT OF "PSYCHOPATHIC GAME" WHERE BUSH &
CONGRESS HAS SENT OUR SONS INTO A FOREIGN COUNTRY THEY HAVE DECIDED TO
ILLEGALLY OCCUPY AND TOLD "KILL THE ENEMY", BUT ALL OF
THE PEOPLE LOOK ALIKE, I.E. THEY ARE ALL OF THE SAME RACE AND CULTURE
AND DRESS THE SAME WAY.
--
"THIS SICK FASCIST GAME IS":
--
TO ORDER THESE G.I.s TO KILL "ALL" OF THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE ANY OF THEM
COULD KILL YOU FIRST.
---
THIS WAY, THE U.S. GOVT. CAN EASILY TAKE OVER THIS COUNTRY AND IT'S
RICH OIL RESERVES AND DO IT UNDER THE GUISE OF "FIGHTING TERRORISM",
OF WHICH,
---
ONLY THE U.S.A. AND IT'S MILITARY ARE CLEARLY "THE TERRORISTS".
--
THE FACT THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE TOO STUPID OR TOO LAZY TO KNOW
THAT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 5 YEARS NOW,
---
BY STARTING IN AFGHANISTAN AND GOING IMMEDIATELY INTO IRAQ AND IS NOW
PROVOKING IRAN AND RUSSIA; WHEN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE
IMMEDIATELY REMOVE THESE FASCISTS FROM THEIR GOVT.
--
THIS ACTIVELY SPEAKS VOLUMES TO "THE WORLD", I.E. THEY HAVE SEEN THIS
"SAME SCENARIO BEFORE" WHEN HITLER WAS STARTING HIS CAMPAIGN FOR
"WORLD DOMINATION".
---
IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE REFUSE TO REMOVE THESE FASCISTS FROM THEIR
GOVT. IN ORDER TO STOP "THIS MILITARY WHICH IS NOW IMPLANTED ALL OVER
THE WORLD", THEN "THEY" (THE WORLD'S NATIONS) WILL HAVE TO.
--
THIS IS HOW HITLER STARTED OUT AND IT TOOK MANY NATIONS TO DESTROY
GERMANY AND MILLIONS OF IT'S PEOPLE. ARE YOU READY AMERICANS?
---
Subject: 6-03-07-
--
OUR G.I.'s DON'T KNOW "WHO THE ENEMY IS"!
--
THIS ARTICLE COMES STRAIGHT OUT OF "THE ARMY TIMES".
--
http://stripes.com/articleprint.asp?section=104&article=46378
>
---
Monday, June?4, 2007 ---
Sometimes it's hard to know who enemy is ---
Some killers on list, others are random
---
By Teri Weaver, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Sunday, June 3, 2007
---
HABBANIYAH, Iraq ?
---
"For one moment in February",
---
Lance Cpl. Blake A. Soileau knew the enemy, and the Marine killed him
without hesitation with a shot through the forehead.
---
The enemy had used a dump truck packed with explosives to drive within
10 meters of a Marine outpost in Habbaniyah, a town along the south
side of the Euphrates River, in the farmlands between Ramadi and
Fallujah.
---
The Marines from Company K, 3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment had
seen both the truck and its driver before.
---
But that morning, 2? hours into Soileau's four-hour watch, was
different.
---
An Iraqi teacher was accidentally shot earlier in the day, and a
protest had erupted.
---
By mid-morning, Soileau and other Marines were taking machine-gun
fire.
---
The man, Soileau thinks now, had endured all he could from the war
around him.
---
The enemy drove the dump truck straight toward Soileau, the post and
nine other Marines.
---
"I guess it just pushed him over the edge," Soileau, 19, of Zachary,
La., said. "He was just a random guy off the street. We knew him. But
he wasn't on a list anywhere."
---
The "lists" are the collections of names and suspects the military
has,
--
"a roster of enemies based on informants," eyewitnesses and service
members' investigations.
---
Some are cell leaders and have familiar associates:
---
al-Qaida,
the 1920 Revolutionary Brigade,
other nationalist groups.
---
Some are lower-level terrorists,
known triggermen and weapons-stockers who contribute to the violence,
---
according to Marines interviewed in the past two weeks.
---
But sometimes, the enemy is just some random guy.
---
Sometimes, he's a 9-year-old kid who knows how to shoot a rocket-
propelled grenade.
---
Sometimes, the Marines never know who they're fighting.
---
"It's definitely not the kind of war you grew up watching, where the
bad guys are in green, the good guys in white,"
---
said Soileau, who grew up outside of Baton Rouge and whose father,
grandfather, uncles and aunt were all in the Marines.
---
"It could be the guy next to you who's trying to kill you," Soileau
said.
---
"It really aggravates you.
These guys can go a street over and blend in."
**********************************************
---
Gunnery Sgt., Christopher Lowman
---
has been patrolling and living in Habbaniyah for five months.
---
In the past two months, Lowman and Company I, have been working with a
group of 400 men policing their own neighborhoods.
---
The Marines have passed out shirts in an effort
**********************************************
to keep track of which guys are
***********************************
"on the good side."
********************
---
"Here's your defining factor,"
******************************
Lowman, 31, of Jonesboro, Ark.,
said of-- "friend and foe."
---
"He's got a blue shirt on."
***************************
---
More often, the Marines see the victims of the enemy rather than his
face.
---
Often those victims are Iraqi residents.
---
In April, a suicide bomber killed several Iraqis at the main market
and police station in Saqlawiyah, a smaller town close to Fallujah.
---
"They're making the civilian life harder than they're making our
life,"
--
said Lance Cpl. Cory Jeffers, 20,
of Stiva, Ill., who patrols with Company F, 2nd Battalion, 7th
Marines.
---
"You wouldn't do that to your own city."
---
Other Marines believe some would.
---
Petty Officer 3rd Class, Zemar Roberts
---
is a Navy corpsman whose job is to protect the health of the 40 or so
Marines who run the Iraqi Army training center in Habbaniyah.
---
"The enemy", he said, often is:
---
"that guy who is doing dishonest acts because he thinks he has no
choice. Or, it's just simple lack of education, people who see
Americans as evil."
---
Slowly, Roberts thinks, that could be changing. "He's grown to know
more Iraqis" as they come through the training center as recruits.
---
Still, some of the stories are hard to hear.
---
One student told him he had brothers
"who were helping the enemy."
---
On that morning in February,
Soileau had a choice and he believes he made the right one.
---
He shot the truck driver before the bomb could be set off. Later,
where the truck came to a halt, experts detonated the truck and the
man, who was dead but rigged to the explosives.
---
The blast tore apart the entire command post. The roof ? where Soileau
and his friends stood earlier that day ? collapsed. Their beds were
gone. The card tables were in pieces. Soileau felt the blast from more
than a third of a mile away.
--
"It's humbling," he said. "It really is."
--
? 2006 Stars and Stripes. All Rights Reserved.

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AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST OF THESE GROUPS WERE "FORMED AFTER" THE U.S.
OCCUPIED IRAQ AND
--
THEIR STATED GOAL IS "TO REMOVE THE U.S. OCCUPIERS FROM THEIR LAND".
---
AMERICANS WOULD BE DOING "THE SAME THING IF WE WERE ATTACKED AND
OCCUPIED". THIS IS CALLED SELF-DEFENSE.
---
THIS WAS "EXACTLY" WHAT THE BUSH REGIME AND CONGRESS WAS TOLD WOULD
HAPPEN IF WE ATTACKED AND OCCUPIED IRAQ.(SEE MY ABOVE POST)
---
THIS CLEARLY MAKES THE BUSH REGIME AND CONGRESS, LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE
FOR CAUSING THE DEATHS OF OUR TROOPS, JUST AS THEY WERE WHEN THEY
ORDERED THE G.I.S "TO WATCH THE ATOMIC BOMBS BEING EXPLODED IN NEVADA,
KNOWING THAT THE RADIATION WOULD PROBABLY KILL THEM.
---
WHY DO AMERICANS TRUST THEIR PROVEN LYING FASCIST GOVERNMENT?
---
CONGRESS IS "SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE FROM A CORRUPT AND INSANE
PRESIDENT & STAFF", INSTEAD,
---
"IT SUPPORTS THE FASCISTS" WITH THE PEOPLE'S TREASURY AND LIVES.
---
AS THE OLD ADAGE GOES:
--
"PEOPLE DESERVE THE GOVERNMENT THEY GET".
--
THE REASON IS SIMPLE:
---
IT IS ONLY WHEN "THE PEOPLE" REFUSE TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THEIR
CORRUPT GOVERNMENT THAT FASCISM CAN SURVIVE."
---
GET INFORMED..READ THIS ARTICLE AND SEND IT TO YOUR CONGRESSIONAL
REPS. AND TELL THEM WHAT YOU THINK. THEN GET ORGANIZED IN YOUR STATE
THRU THE ACLU (SEE MY POST ON THE ACLU)
-----
Subject:6-03-07-LIST OF FIGHTERS IN IRAQ AGAINST U.S.-THEIR PURPOSE-
REMOVE U.S
---
http://stripes.com/articleprint.asp?section=104&article=46376
>
-------
Who's your enemy?
---
By Monte Morin, Stars and Stripes

Mideast edition, Sunday, June 3, 2007
----
(1) Sunni Islamist groups
*************************
Jama'at al-TawhidWa'al-Jihad
--
AKA: JTJ, TWJ, Monotheism and Jihad Group, al-Zarqawi Network,
precursor
to al-Qaida in Iraq.
---
Wahhabi-Salafist Sunni militant group headed by now deceased Jordanian
terrorist
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
---
GOALS: Drive the U.S. military from Iraq, establish a
seventh-century-style caliphate based on Islamic law, overturn
"infidel" regimes throughout the Arab world and destroy Israel. Views
Shiites as heretics.
---
FAVORED TACTICS: Suicide bombings, beheadings and kidnappings. Claimed
responsibility for video execution of Nicolas Berg, the assassination
of U.S. diplomat Laurence Foley and the bombing of the U.N.
headquarters in Iraq.
---
ESTABLISHED: 2003
*************************
---
(2) Organization of al-Qaida
****************************
in the Land of Two Rivers
****************************
AKA: Al-Qaida in Iraq, AQIZ, Tanzim Qa'idat al-Jihad fi Bilad
al-Rafidayn, al-Zarqawi Network.
---
Sunni Wahhabi-Salafist militant group led by Abu Ayyub al-Masri, who
was rumored killed in early May.
---
GOALS: Foment sectarian bloodshed through suicide bomb attacks on
Shiites, drive U.S. troops from Iraq, establish a seventh-century-
style caliphate based on Islamic law.
---
FAVORED TACTICS: Mass casualty attacks and assassinations using
foreign suicide bombers, kidnappings, intimidation, torture, chlorine
gas bombs. Suspected of many of the deadliest bombings in Iraq
including the April 18 bomb attacks in Baghdad that killed more than
200 people, as well as the Golden Mosque bombing in Samarra on Feb.
22, 2006.
---
AREA OF OPERATION: Central/northern Iraq (Ramadi, Fallujah, Baghdad,
Baqouba, Mosul).
ESTABLISHED: December 2004
*************************************
---
(3) Ansar al-Sunnah
************************
AKA: Ansar al-Islam,
Helpers of Islam,
Kurdish Taliban.
---
Group of Iraqi Kurds and Arabs who have vowed to establish an
independent Islamic state in Iraq. Works closely with al-Qaida in
Iraq.
---
Responsible for the Marez Dining Facility bombing in Mosul on Dec. 21,
2004, and coordinated suicide bombings in Irbil on Feb. 1, 2004.
---
LOCATION/AREA OF OPERATION:
Northern and central Iraq
ESTABLISHED: December 2001
*************************************
---
(4) Islamic State of Iraq
**************************
Coalition of eight Salafist Sunni militant groups organized by al-
Qaida in Iraq to enforce Islamic law and protect Sunnis.
---
The state's "Emir of Believers,"
Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, has declared Iraq a "University of Terrorism,"
and claims his group is now building its own "Quds 1" missile.
---
The organization finds itself in a:
************************************
"growing state of war with Sunni Nationalist"
**********************************************
insurgent groups and former allies who say:
--
"they're fed up with the slaughter of Iraqi
*********************************************
civilians and "strange laws and verdicts,"
********************************************
---
such as the requirement that all women wear veils.
---
"Sunni nationalist insurgents charge" that:
--
"Islamic State of Iraq members" are:
extorting cash from wealthy Sunnis and responsible for killing 30 of
their fighters recently, including a field commander of the 1920
Revolution Brigades.
ESTABLISHED: Oct. 15, 2006
***********************************
---
(5) Mujahedeen Shura Council
***********************************
Umbrella organization of:
--
"7 Sunni Islamist militant groups",
including al-Qaida in Iraq to:
---
"manage the struggle" against "invading infidels and their apostate
stooges."
---
The move came in response perhaps to a growing rift between Sunni
insurgent groups.
ESTABLISHED: January 2006
***********************************
---
Member groups include:
***************************
Ansar al-Tawheed units;
al-Ghurabaa units;
Army of Ahlus Sunnah Wal jamaah;
al-Qaida in Iraq;
Army of the victorious sect;
Islamic Jihad units;
al-Ahwaal brigade.
---
(6) Sunni nationalist insurgents
1920 Revolution Brigades
*****************************
Sunni group believed to be comprised of
"former Saddam loyalists and military officers" who were fired or
barred from involvement in "the new Iraq government" by the Coalition
Provisional Authority.
******************************************
GOAL: U.S. withdrawal from Iraq.
Actively hostile to Islamic State of Iraq, which reportedly killed one
of its field commanders, Harith Tahir al-Dhari, nephew of Iraq's most
prominent Sunni cleric, Haith al-Dari, of the Association of Muslim
Scholars.
---
"Rumored to be negotiating with the U.S".
*********************************************
and Iraqi government,
*************************
as well as fighting alongside tribal militias against al-Qaida in Iraq
insurgents.
*********************
FAVORED TACTICS:
Targeting U.S. helicopters.
Targeting U.S. and Iraqi forces with suicide bombs, small arms and
indirect fire attacks.
---
Has refused to participate in sectarian killing or targeting of
Shiites.
--
Claims responsibility for the kidnapping of U.S. Marine Wassef Ali
Hassoun in June 2004,
---
the bombing of the Al-Arabiya television headquarters in Baghdad in
October 2005 and
---
the downing of several U.S. helicopters around Fallujah. ESTABLISHED:
June 2003
*******************************
(7) Hamas of Iraq
***************
A recent splinter group from the
"1920 Revolution Brigades".
---
The break may be the result of rumored discussions between the 1920
Revolution Brigades and the U.S. and Iraqi governments. ESTABLISHED:
March 2007
********************************
---
(8) Islamic Army of Iraq
**********************
AKA: al-Jaish al-Islami fi al-Iraq
---
Homegrown Sunni group comprised of Saddam-era Baathists, soldiers and
paramilitary groups such as the Saddam Fedayeen.
---
GOALS: Expel all coalition troops and remove "Iranian" influence from
Iraq.
---
Once allied itself with Salafist groups like Ansar Al Sunnah and the
al-Zarqawi Network, but has recently broken ties with those groups.
---
Group claims that al-Qaida-linked groups had killed 30 Islamic Army
fighters and that the threat of Iranian influence in Iraqi government
was a greater danger than U.S. troops.
---
Claimed responsiblility for various surface-to-air missile attacks on
civilian and coalition aircraft, including the November 2003 missile
strike on DHL Airbus A300 at Baghdad International Airport and
---
the April 2005 downing of a Blackwater helicopter north of Baghdad.
Videotape of the incident showed the execution of the lone survivor,
co-pilot Lyubomir Kostov.
---
Implicated in the kidnappings of more than a dozen foreign nationals
in Iraq, including Christian Science Monitor reporter Jill Carroll.
---
Claims that it conducts, on average, a thousand military operations
against U.S. and Iraqi government targets each month and has conducted
hundreds of attacks on military bases including Falcon base in 2006.
---
FAVORED TACTICS: Sniper attacks, bombings, kidnappings. ESTABLISHED:
2003
************************
---
(9) Al-Fatihin Army
******************
AKA: Army of the Conquerors
Splinter group of the Islamic Army of Iraq
---
FAVORED TACTICS:
IED attacks on U.S. troops in Ramadi
ESTABLISHED: January 2006
************************************
---
(10) Mujahedeen Army
**************************
Sent open e-mail letter to American people urging them to overthrow
the Bush administration, accusing the president of rigging the 2004
election.
---
Virtually unheard of since 2006
************************************
(11) Shiite militias
********************
Mahdi Army
*************
AKA: Jaysh al-Mahdi,
JAM,
"Mookie's Boys"
---
Lower-class and dispossessed Shiite followers of Muqtada al-Sadr.
---
GOAL: Expel coalition troops from Iraq, establish a federal state
based
on Islamic law.
---
FAVORED TACTICS: Explosively formed projectile, mortar, rocket and
small arms attacks on U.S. and British troops.
---
Prone to violent clashes with competing Shiite militias like those of
the Badr Corps and Fadhila.
---
Engaged in bitter and bloody battles with U.S. troops in 2004.
---
While militiamen have been implicated in waves of sectarian killings,
Sadr has recently called upon them to join with Sunnis to oppose
coalition forces.
---
STRENGTH: 60,000
***********************
ESTABLISHED: 2003
*************************
---
'Rogue' Mahdi Army
**********************
AKA: Rogue Militia
---
GOAL:
Expel coalition troops from Iraq,
conduct reprisal killings on Sunni Iraqis
---
FAVORED TACTICS: Execution with power drill; EFP, mortar and rocket
attacks.
---
Reportedly financed and trained by Iranian Quds Force
---
STRENGTH: 3,000
**********************
ESTABLISHED: 2006
*************************
---
(12) Badr Corps
*************
Armed wing of the:
"Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution" in Iraq, an organization
of former Iraqi exiles who sought refuge in Iran.
---
Trained by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, widely infiltrating Iraqi
Police and military.
---
Suspected of waging a campaign of murder, rape, torture, and bribery:
"against Sunni Iraqis and political rivals."
---
STRENGTH: 20,000
***********************
ESTABLISHED: 1982
*************************
---
(13) Iranian militants- "Quds Force"
*************************************
Element of "Iran's Revolutionary Guard" devoted to: "aiding Shiite
movements in other nations."
---
Reportedly:
supplying explosively formed projectiles, rockets, mortar bombs,
funding and training to Shiite militias.
---
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JUST LIKE THE U.S. AND THE U.K. GOVERNMENTS, THE IRAQ GOVERNMENT IS
"CORRUPT" AND "REFUSE TO DO WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT".
---
IT IS CLEAR THAT THE BUSH REGIME INSTILLED THE IRAQ PRIME MINISTER,
WHO IS REFUSING TO DO WHAT 82% OF THE IRAQI PEOPLE WANT DONE, I.E. TO
KICK OUT THE "OCCUPIERS" OF THEIR COUNTRY, THE U.S. & U.K.
---
BUSH KEEPS TELLING US "HE WOULD PULL OUT OUR TROOPS "WHEN" THE IRAQIS
TELL HIM THEY WANT US TO LEAVE".
---
THE IRAQI PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TELLING THE U.S. FOR YEARS THAT THEY WANT
THE U.S. OUT VIA:
--
(1) MASSIVE PROTESTS
OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQIS, JUST LAST MONTH;
--
(2) THE KILLING OF OUR TROOPS "IN DEFENSE" OF THIS ILLEGAL OCCUPATION.
---
BUT, BOTH THE IRAQ PRIME MINISTER (MALIKI) AND BUSH REGIME REFUSED TO
ACCEPT THE IRAQI'S DEMANDS FOR WITHDRAWAL AND ARE G.I.S CONTINUED TO
BE KILLED.
----
NOW, THE IRAQIS ARE GOING TO "PASS A NON-BINDING RESOLUTION" TO ASK
FOR "A LAW" THAT FORMALLY DEMANDS THE WITHDRAWAL OF FOREIGN TROOPS AND
DEMANDING THAT THE U.N. STOP THEIR MANDATE THAT ALLOWED THE U.S. TO
OCCUPY IRAQ.
---
AS YOU WILL READ IN THE BELOW ARTICLE "THE IRAQIS ARE CONVINCED THAT
THE U.S. PLANS ON "PERMANENTLY OCCUPYING IRAQ" AND...THEY ARE RIGHT!
--
(SEE MY POSTS ON THIS THREAD RE THE GOALS OF THE BUSH REGIME "AND"
CONGRESS TO BUILD PERMANENT BASES AND TO ROB THEM OF THEIR OIL.)
--
THIS IS FASCISM AMERICANS; JUST LIKE WHAT HITLER DID AND THIS "GLOBAL
DOMINATION" WILL CONTINUE UNTIL AMERICANS FIGHT AGAINST THESE FASCISTS.
---
MY SUGGESTION IS TO IMMEDIATELY SEND AN E-MAIL TO THE UNITED NATIONS
DEMANDING THAT "THEIR MANDATE" BE REPEALED BECAUSE NEITHER THE
AMERICAN OR IRAQ PEOPLE WANT THIS ILLEGAL OCCUPATION, THEN SEND A COPY
TO YOUR CONGRESS PERSON STATING YOU DEMAND IMMEDIATE WITHDRAWAL OR YOU
WILL HOLD THEM LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE VIA THE ACLU FOR THEIR FRAUD AND
DEATHS OF NEARLY 4,000 G.I.S AND THE ROBBERY OF OUR TREASURY.
--
I WILL POST THE U.N.'S E-MAIL NEXT. PLEASE DO NOT JUST SIT THERE AND
DO NOTHING. THE U.N. AND YOUR FASCIST GOVT. NEEDS TO HEAR DIRECTLY
FROM YOU "NOW".
--
NOTE: AN ABC POLL WAS JUST TAKEN A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO AND "AMERICANS
HAVE DECIDED THAT DISLIKE THE DEMOCRATS AS MUCH AS THE REPUBLICANS
NOW, BECAUSE THE DEMOS ARE REFUSING TO IMPEACH BUSH AND WITHDRAW FROM
IRAQ, INSTEAD...CONGRESS CONTINUES TO USE OUR TAXES TO "PAY FOR THIS
CONTINUED MASS MURDER".
---
Subject:6-05-07-Iraq Legislature Vote May End US Occupation
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/060607J.shtml
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WAKE UP AMERICANS TO THE FACT "YOU HAVE A GREEDING & CORRUPT FASCIST
GOVERNMENT."
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THE "ENTIRE REASON" FOR THE MASS MURDER AND OCCUPATION OF IRAQ WAS FOR
IT'S OIL AND TO STAY THERE SO THEY COULD ATTACK THE OTHER MIDDLE EAST
COUNTRIES WHICH HAVE OIL OR WHO WOULD TRY TO FORCE THE U.S. OUT OF
THEIR COUNTRIES.
--
YET CONTINUALLY OUR CONGRESS AND THE BUSH REGIME HAS BEEN LYING TO US,
I.E. THE BUSH REGIME KEEP TELLING US "WE DIDN'T INVADE IRAQ FOR THEIR
OIL, WHILE THEY HAVE FORCED THEIR "OIL LAW" ON THE SO-CALLED IRAQI
GOVERNMENT WHICH WILL GIVE 75% OF THEIR OIL TO HUGE OIL CORPS FOR 30
YEARS;
--
AND BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICAN CONGRESS OFFICIALS TELL US, "IRAQIS
ARE "NOT" HELPING US CONTROL THE VIOLENCE IN THEIR COUNTRY, WHEN "THE
TRUTH IS" THE IRAQIS ARE FIGHTING TO HOLD ON TO THE "ONLY RESOURCE"
THEY HAVE...OIL!
--
THIS OUTRAGEOUS AND ILLEGAL ACT IS A VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAWS
AND OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION RE THE U.N. CHARTER WHICH BOTH THE U.S. AND
IRAQ ARE MEMBERS.
--
THESE ARE BLATANT FASCIST'S ACTIONS AND THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN STOP
THIS IS, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE..."YOU AND ME"!
---
THIS IS "WHY" CONGRESS, I.E. THE DEMOCRATS HAVE REFUSED TO IMPEACH
BUSH & CHENEY, I.E. OUR OWN CONGRESS IS IN COLLUSION WITH BUSH TO
COMMIT THESE MURDERS OF THE IRAQ PEOPLE; ROB OUR U.S. TREASURY TO PAY
FOR THIS HUGE MILITARY DESTRUCTION AND CAUSE THE DEATHS OF NEARLY
4,000 OF OUR SONS & DAUGHTERS WHO "THOUGHT" THEY WERE FIGHTING TO
"PROTECT OUR NATION", WHEN IN REALITY, THEY WERE ACCURATELY SEEN AS
THE "TOOLS FOR TERRORISM".
---
WE "MUST" CONTACT OUR LOCAL ACLU OFFICES (SEE MY THREAD ON THE ACLU)
TO FILE A "CIVIL LAWSUIT AGAINST ALL OF THEM FOR THIS FRAUD;
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE; AND INTENTIONAL DEATH, ETC. WHILE THE ACLU
ALSO REPRESENTS US IN DEMANDING "CRIMINAL CHARGES" AGAINST THEM VIA
EACH STATES "U.S. ATTORNEYS".
---
HERE IS THE LATEST ARTICLE PROVING THAT THE IRAQIS HAVE CONTACTED
CONGRESS ABOUT THE FORCE BEING USED BY BUSH TO GET THIS "OIL LAW
PASSED OR BE KILLED".
---
AMERICANS HAVE "GOT TO STOP BEING LAZY AND STUPID AND GET ORGANIZED IN
"EACH STATE" AND GET THIS INFO OUT TO THE PEOPLE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE
SO-CALLED AMERICAN FREE PRESS IS ANYTHING BUT FREE.
---
ASK YOURSELF..WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD "ANYTHING" ABOUT THE
STATUS OF "IRAQI'S OIL", OTHER THAN A VAGUE REFERENCE TO THE IRAQI'S
"NEEDING TO PASS THE "IRAQI OIL LAW"?
---
TAKE ACTION TODAY..CONTACT THE ACLU IN YOUR STATE BY GOING TO MY POST
IN THIS THREAD.
--
Subject:6-09-07-BUSH & CONGRESS DEMANDING IRAQ'S OIL-& REFUSE TO TELL
AMERICANS BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL AND FASCIST.
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IT IS JUST AMAZING HOW DAY AFTER DAY WE ARE TOLD THAT THE BUSH REGIME
CONTINUES TO BLATANTLY LIE TO US AND "CONGRESS SAYS NOTHING" EXCEPT TO
BLATANTLY "SUPPORT AND FUND" THE VERY ACTIONS OF BUSH WHICH HAS CAUSED
THE DEATHS OF NEARLY 4,000 OF OUR TROOPS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
MASSIVE INJURIES TO THEM, WHILE ROBBING OUR TREASURY "UNDER THESE WELL
KNOWN LIES".
--
IF ANY AMERICAN DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT THEIR CONGRESS "DIDN'T KNOW" THAT
WE WERE INTENTIONALLY BEING LIES TO, THEN THEY CLEARLY WEREN'T PAYING
ATTENTION.
--
IN THIS ARTICLE, YOU WILL SEE "THAT AT LEAST 20 OF THE TOP MILITARY
LEADERS "KNOW" THAT THE U.S. MILITARY WILL KEEP AT LEAST 50-60
THOUSAND TROOPS IN IRAQ.
---
THE WASHINGTON POST, LIKE ALL AMERICAN MEDIA "INTENTIONALLY REFUSES TO
ASK THE NEXT OBVIOUS QUESTION OF:
--
WHY ARE THESE THOUSANDS OF TROOPS GOING TO STAY IN IRAQ AND DOES IT
HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH "IRAQI OIL"?
--
IF YOU READ MY SUB-THREAD POSTS ON THIS THREAD RE "STAYING IRAQ FOR
THE OIL", YOU WILL SEE THAT BUSH (WITH THE HELP OF CONGRESS) IS
REFUSING TO LEAVE "UNTIL THE IRAQI'S SIGN THE "OIL LAW" THAT WILL
ALLOW THE HUGE OIL CORPS TO TAKE 70% OF ALL OF THE OIL OUT OF IRAQ AND
THAT THE IRAQI'S ARE FIGHTING & KILLING OUR TROOPS BECAUSE THEY ARE
TRYING TO STOP THIS.
---
SECONDLY, THE FASCIST U.S. GOVT. WILL "NEED" TO HAVE SEVERAL THOUSAND
TROOPS OR THEIR PRIVATE MERCENARIES "GUARD" THESE OIL WELLS
"PERMANENTLY" FROM IRAQI ATTACKS.
--
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE VERY WORDS THE BUSH REGIME AND MOST OF CONGRESS
HAVE TOLD US:
--
"WE MUST STAY IN IRAQ UNTIL THE IRAQIS "STAND UP" THEN WE CAN "STAND
DOWN", WAS ALL A LIE ACCORDING TO THIS ARTICLE.
---
AMERICANS..ALL OF THIS FRAUD IS TAKING PLACE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU AND
IT IS BLATANT, I.E. THE BUSH REGIME AND CONGRESS OBVIOUSLY BELIEVE WE
AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE TO SCARED OR STUPID TO TAKE ANY ACTION AGAINST
THESE OBVIOUS TREASONAL ACTS THAT IS DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY BOTH
"OUTSIDE" RE DISTRUST AND FEAR AND "INSIDE" THRU THE INTENTIONAL
KILLING OF OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS, AS WELL AS ROBBERY OF OUR TREASURY.
--
ADD TO THIS THE 655,000 IRAQIS THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED AND THE 4 MILLION
WHO ARE NOW REFUGEES, THIS IS A "PERFECT EXAMPLE" OF INTENTIONAL WAR
CRIMES AND TREASON BY FASCISTS.
---
I AM BUT ONE PERSON WHO'S VOICE AND EFFORTS ARE LIKE A TINY MOSQUITO;
---
NOT UNTIL "YOU" THE READER OF THIS INFORMATION DECIDES THAT IT IS TIME
TO "STOP THINKING THAT SOMEONE ELSE WILL HOLD THESE U.S. FASCISTS
ACCOUNTABLE" WHEN THE ENTIRE U.S. GOVT. IS BEHIND THIS, WILL THEY BE
STOPPED.
---
APPARENTLY THE MILITARY LEADERS, WHO ARE BEING "ORDERED TO STAY IN
IRAQ" AND MANY CONGRESS MEMBERS (SOME OF WHICH I HAVE LISTED ABOVE)
"AGREE...THE U.S. WILL STAY IN IRAQ FOR 30 PLUS YEARS, LIKE WE HAVE
BEEN DOING IN KOREA.
--
NOTE: HOW COINCIDENTIAL THIS 30 YEARS IS, I.E. "30 YEAR OIL CONTRACTS
AND 30 YEARS FOR U.S. TROOPS TO STAY IN IRAQ" AND YET "NO ONE,
INCLUDING THE AMERICAN MEDIA WILL "PUBLICLY CONNECT THESE DOTS".
---
I AM SICK TO DEATH OF THIS GOVERNMENT AND IT'S OUTRIGHT LIES AND
FRAUD.
--
AS A FORMER ARMY MEDIC, WHO, AT THE AGE OF 18 WENT THROUGH BOOT CAMP
WHERE I WAS YELLED AT AND CALLED EVERY NAME IN THE BOOK "BY MY DRILL
SARGENT", SO AS TO BRAIN-WASH ME INTO "FEARING MY SO-CALLED SUPERIORS"
AND "NEVER ASK ANY QUESTIONS" OR BE FACED WITH PUNISHMENT;
---
I REALIZED VERY QUICKLY THAT "THE MILITARY GAME IS TO TURN ALL G.I.S
INTO MENTAL ROBOTS WHO WOULD DO AND THINK WHATEVER I WAS BEING TOLD.
--
NOTHING HAS CHANGED EXCEPT, THE FASCISTS HAVE NOW EXTENDED THIS
PSYCHOLOGICAL WAR GAME "ON ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS", WHO AS CLEARLY IS
SEEN, HAVE "GONE ALONG WITH BELIEVING THESE LIES AND "ACCEPTING THESE
FASCIST ACTS."
---
IS THERE NO ONE OUT THERE WHO CARES ENOUGH TO STOP THEIR KIDS OR GRAND
KIDS FROM BEING USED FOR THIS GREED AND THEN KILLED?
--
Subject:6-10-07-
--
US Military Envisions "Post-Occupation" Force
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061107J.shtml
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AS IN ANY FASCIST GOVERNMENT, THE "FIRST" THINGS THE FASCISTS REMOVES
ARE "FREE SPEECH" AND "THE FREE PRESS", WHICH THEY REPLACE WITH "THEIR
FRAUDUMENT PROPAGANDA".
---
THE AMERICAN MEDIA HAS ALREADY "ADMITTED" THAT THEY "JUST TOOK THE
BUSH REGIME'S STATEMENTS AT FACE VALUE AND THE MEDIA DID VERY LITTLE
TO VERIFY WHAT THEY WERE BEING TOLD, THUS THE AMERICAN MEDIA WAS
"SUPPORTING THE BUSH REGIME'S FRAUD FOR ATTACKING AFGHANISTAN AND
IRAQ".
--
WE HAVE LEARNED VIA THE MEDIA THAT G.I.'s WERE BEING TOLD THAT THEY
COULDN'T SPEAK TO THE PRESS AND MILITARY LEADERS WOULDN'T ALLOW THE
PRESS TO TALK TO THE G.I.'s.
--
NOW WE FIND (IN THIS ARTICLE) THAT THE D.O.D. (DEPT. OF DEFENSE), I.E.
SEC. OF DEFENSE, GATES, HAS BANNED SOME INTERNET SITES SO THE G.I.s
CAN'T READ THEM.
--
AS I STATED IN MY POST YESTERDAY, ALL G.I.s ARE PUT THROUGH A "BRAIN-
WASHING PROGRAM" WHEN THEY ENTER THE SERVICE IN WHICH THE G.I. IS
YELLED AT AND TOLD THAT "THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO THINK ON THEIR OWN
AND THAT THEY ARE TO DO WHAT THEY ARE ORDERED TO DO.
--
THE REASON IS SIMPLE, THE U.S. WANTS ONLY "ROBOTS" WHO WILL KILL OTHER
PEOPLE AND ARE NOT ALLOWED TO QUESTION THEIR SUPERIORS OR THEY WILL
PUNISHED.
--
BY BANNING THE INTERNET SITES THAT TALK ABOUT THE FASCISTS ILLEGAL
OCCUPATIONS, THE AMERICAN G.I. HAS "NO INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THESE ILLEGAL SO-CALLED WARS AND WILL
CONTINUE TO BLINDLY KILL AND COMMIT WAR CRIMES, I.E. "THE FASCISTS DO
NOT WANT THEIR ROBOTS TO KNOW THE TRUTH.
--
FOR YEARS, THE G.I.S WERE "SURE" THAT SADDAM HUSSEIN WAS THE MASTER-
MIND BEHIND 9-11, DUE TO THIS FASCIST PROPAGANDA, AND THEY FELT "LIKE
PATRIOTIC HEROES" WHO WERE "PROTECTING THE U.S. FROM TERRORISM". ALL
DUE TO THIS LYING PROPAGANDA; AND MANY STILL THINK THAT IS TRUE.
--
THE HYPOCRISY OF THE BUSH REGIME AND MANY CONGRESS PEOPLE "STILL USE
THE SAME MANTRA THAT "IT WAS NECESSARY TO REMOVE THE DICTATOR, SADDAM
HUSSEIN IN ORDER TO "SAVE THE IRAQI PEOPLE AND ALLOW THEM TO HAVE
FREEDOM VIA A DEMOCRACY (LIKE THE USA HAS) AND THE RULE OF LAW, WERE
TOTAL LIES.
--
IN FACT, THE ACTIONS OF THE BUSH REGIME
"ARE THE ACTS OF A TERRORIST-DICTATOR WITH A REGIME WHICH ELIMINATES
ALL DEMOCRACY AND BLATANTLY VIOLATES OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION AND ALL OF
OUR RIGHTS.
--
AND THIS ARTICLE PROVES THAT OUR FASCISTS WANT OUR G.I.S TO STAY AS
DUMB AS A ROCK SO THEY WON'T STOP THEIR KILLING.
--
Subject:6-11-07-
DOD BANS SOME WEBSITES TO GIs-Sen Wants DOD to Explain ---
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YET AGAIN THIS IS PROOF OF THE FASCIST PSYCHOPATHIC LIARS WHO STATED
NUMEROUS TIMES:
"WE DON'T DEAL WITH TERRORISTS", THEN PAYS THESE SUDANESE TERRORISTS
TO SPY FOR HIM IN IRAQ.
--
THIS IS A CLEAR INDICATION OF HOW INCOMPETENT AND STUPID THE BUSH
REGIME IS AND TO WHAT LENGTHS THEY WILL GO TO STOP THE ROTTEN LEGACY
BUSH IS LEAVING.
---
JUST LIKE BUSH DID WITH CHALAPI (PH) THE INDICTED CON-ARTIST WHO
PROVIDED BUSH WITH ALL OF THE MANUFACTURED LIES ABOUT IRAQ HAVING WMD,
AND WHO IS STILL IN IRAQ WORKING FOR POWER FOR HIMSELF, WITH SUPPORT
FROM BUSH.
--
BUSH IS AGAIN B.S. ABOUT HOW MUCH GOOD HE IS DOING TO STOP THE
GENOCIDE IN DARFUR, WHILE OUT OF THE OTHER SIDE OF HIS MOUTH, HE IS
PAYING THESE KILLERS TO SPY FOR HIM IN IRAQ.
--
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT BUSH'S GOD, I.E. THE ONLY ONE WHO WOULD SUPPORT THE
FASCIST BUSH REGIMES HORRENDOUS ACTS OF MURDER, WOULD HAVE TO BE
SATAN, HIMSELF.
---
IT IS ALSO OBVIOUS THAT BUSH IS A CRIMINAL PSYCHOPATH WHO NEEDS LOCKED
UP IN A MAXIMUM PRISON FOR THE "CRIMINALLY INSANE", JUST LIKE THEY DID
WITH HITLER, EXCEPT BUSH AND HIS FASCISTS SHOULD SPEND THE REST OF
THEIR LIVES IN THIS PRISON.
--
I PERSONALLY HOPE THAT THE JESUS FREAKS WHO PUT BUSH IN OFFICE
"TWICE", CAN SEE "HOW EASY IT WAS TO BE USED BY THIS FASCIST REGIME"
I.E. THE FASCISTS, THRU THEIR MAIN CON-ARTIST, KARL ROVE, MADE SURE
THAT THE BUSH REGIME AND REPUBLICANS WOULD CONSTANTLY SAY "GOD BLESS
YOU" AND "WEAR THE AMERICAN FLAG PIN" ON THEIR SUITS, SO THE STUPID
RELIGIOUS FREAKS WOULD "BELIEVE EVERYTHING THEY WERE TOLD AND "NOT"
BELIEVE THE BLATANT HORRENDOUS MURDERS THAT "THEIR FAVORITE GOD-
FEARING PRESIDENT WAS DOING".
---
Subject:6-11-07-
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IT SHOULD BE CLEAR TO EVERYONE WHO HAS FOLLOWED THE "ILLEGAL ACTS OF
POLITICAL CORRUPTION" SINCE THE BUSH REGIME TOOK OFFICE, THAT WE HAVE
LOST OUR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC DUE TO THE PRESIDENT'S SELECTION OF HIS
TWO CORRUPT U.S. ATTORNEY GENERALS, WHO CONGRESS "APPROVED".
---
WE ARE ALL TOLD THAT THERE ARE "3 SEPARATE DIVISIONS OF OUR U.S.
GOVT.":
---
(1) EXECUTIVE (PRES);
--
(2) LEGISLATIVE;- (CONGRESS)
--
(3) JUDICIARY (COURTS AND JUDGES)
---
BUT, IT IS CLEAR THAT WHILE THE AMERICAN CITIZEN "CAN ELECT" THE FIRST
2 DIVISIONS, I.E. PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS; WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY "NO
CONTROL OVER THE MOST IMPORTANT DIVISION, I.E. "OUR JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
AND THE JUDGES WHO SIT ON THESE COURTS".
--
WHEN, AS IT IS NOW, WE HAVE A FASCIST GOVERNMENT WHERE THE PRESIDENT
AND CONGRESS ARE "IN COLLUSION" AND HAVE CONSPIRED TO BRING ABOUT AN
"AMERICAN EMPIRE" BY ILLEGALLY INVADING AND MURDERING HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE IN FOREIGN LANDS FOR NO OTHER PURPOSE
THAN "POWER AND GREED" WHILE OUR SO-CALLED "CONGRESSIONAL
REPRESENTATIVES" REFUSE TO HOLD THE CORRUPT FASCIST BUSH REGIME
LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE, VIA IMPEACHMENT, THEN THE U.S.A. NO LONGER HAS
ANY CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS.
--
AS WE HAVE SEEN, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE BECOME NOTHING MORE THAN A
BOTHERSOME GROUP OF MOSQUITOES, WHO ARE CONSTANTLY IGNORED UNLESS THEY
GET TO NOISY, THEN THEY ARE RETALIATED AGAINST.
---
IN OTHER WORDS, FASCISM HAS BEEN ABLE TO FLOURISH IN THE U.S. BECAUSE
WE HAVE CORRUPTION IN BOTH AGENCIES, WITH "NO REPRESENTATION" IN THE
MOST IMPORTANT ONE, "THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND JUSTICE DEPTS", BECAUSE
"WE CAN'T ELECT THESE PEOPLE".
---
YET, THESE FASCISTS CONTINUE TO LIE TO US AND THE WORLD SAYING:
--
"OUR NATION OPERATES "UNDER THE RULE OF LAW, NOT BY MAN", AND THE
ENTIRE WORLD LAUGHS AT THESE STATEMENTS WHICH "THEY KNOW" IS NOTHING
MORE THAN LIES.
--
IN THE MEANTIME AMERICANS ARE SO CONFUSED BECAUSE THEY "KNOW THIS
GOVT. CORRUPTION IS SO BLATANT AND NOW SEES THAT CONGRESS IS REFUSING
TO USE IT'S POWER TO INDICT AND IMPEACH THIS BUSH REGIME, AND DOESN'T
KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO TO STOP THIS.
--
I HAVE OFFERED SEVERAL SOLUTIONS ON THIS THREAD, ALL OF WHICH SHOULD
BE USED BY AMERICANS, IF THEY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THEIR COUNTRY AND IT'S
FUTURE. IF NOT, THIS NATION IS DOOMED FOR TOTAL DESTRUCTION, BY
ENTITIES IN AND OUTSIDE OF IT.
---
HERE AGAIN, WE COULD TURN TO THE ACLU AND ASK THAT THEY REPRESENT US
BECAUSE WE WILL BE ATTACKED BY THE FASCISTS BECAUSE THEY KNOW "THEIR
POWER BASE AND CONTROL OF US AND OUR TREASURY WILL BE DESTROYED" AND
THEY COULD NOT CONTINUE THEIR GOAL OF "GLOBAL DOMINATION".
---
THIS CAN ONLY BE DONE BY CHANGING OUR CONSTITUTION BY REPEALING THE
SECTIONS THAT DEAL WITH JUSTICE DEPT.; COURTS; AND JUDGES, ESPECIALLY
THE SUPREME COURT, WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE "ALLOWED TO STAY FOR LIFE".
---
WE "NEED" THE JUSTICE DEPT AND COURTS "UNDER OUR (THE PEOPLE'S)
CONTROL VIA DIRECT ELECTIONS, WITH TERMS OF ONLY 4 YEARS FOR ALL
JUDGES/JUSTICES, THUS THE "CANDIDATES", NOT PRESIDENTIAL "NOMINEES"
WILL BE PUT ON THE BALLOT AT THE SAME TIME THE PRESIDENT IS UP FOR
ELECTION/RE-ELECTION.
THIS WILL FORCE THE JUSTICE DEPT. TO REPRESENT "THE PEOPLE", NOT THE
CORRUPT POLITICIANS.
---
THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE IS PROOF OF HOW CORRUPT OUR GOVT. IS, FROM THE
TOP DOWN, AND HOW THE MILLIONS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE BEEN HURT
BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO POWER, AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE JUST SUPPOSED
TO TAKE IT.
--
Subject:6-14-07-
POLITICAL CORRUPTION- Bush Shafts Enron Victims
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THIS JOURNALIST IS WELL-KNOWN AND HAS BEEN OBSERVING AND WRITING ABOUT
"HOW OUR NATION HAS ALMOST BEEN LOST TO THE FASCISTS".
--
READ THIS ARTICLE AND SEE IF IT IS TALKING ABOUT "YOU".
--
IF SO, READ THE BELOW LINKS AND CONTACT YOUR LOCAL ACLU OFFICE AND ASK
THEM TO "REPRESENT THE PEOPLE IN YOUR STATE IN A "CIVIL
LAWSUIT" (SINCE THEY CAN'T FILE A CRIMINAL SUIT, ONLY THE U.S. ATTY.
CAN) BUT ASK THE ACLU TO CONTACT THE U.S. ATTY AND DEMAND THAT THEY
FILE A CRIMINAL COMPLAINT AGAINST THE BUSH REGIME & CONGRESS.
--
IT IS EACH OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE ACTION NOW OR FOREVER BEAR
THE GUILT OF THE ACTS OF THIS GOVERNMENT ACTING "IN YOUR NAME".
--
NOTHING MAKES ME MORE OUTRAGED THEN TO HEAR THE BUSH REGIME MAKE
SPEECHES TELLING OTHERS THAT:
--
"THEY ARE REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES UNDER "THE RULE
OF LAW" AND FLOUNT OUR AMERICAN FLAG ON THEIR LAPELS.
---
Subject:6-20-07-IT'S YOUR COUNTRY AND "IT'S A Time to Reap"
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/062007A.shtml
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------
JACKEL wrote:
> IT'S TIME TO CONTACT THE ACLU TO REPRESENT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE
> WE NOW HAVE A FASCIST GOVT., WITH "NO ONE PROTECTING AND DEFENDING
> "THE AMERICAN PEOPLE".
> ----
> Subject: LINKS TO A.C.L.U.
> ---
> AMERICANS NOW KNOW, THAT IN ORDER TO SAVE OUR NATION AND OUR DEMOCRACY
> WE NEED THE LEGAL HELP OF THE ACLU!
> ----
> ACLU-Guardians Of Freedom
> ---
> http://www.aclu.org/about/faqs/21419res20051115.html
> >
> ----
> (2) ACLU-E-MAIL-NAT'L HOME OFFICE-N.Y.
> **********************************************
> http://www.aclu.org/contact/index.html
> >
> ---
> (3) ACLU-LEADERS & STAFF-BIO & E-MAIL
> **********************************************
> About Us : Staff Leaders-E-MAILS
> ----
> http://www.aclu.org/about/staff/index.html
> >
> ---
> (4) ACLU-EACH STATE CONTACT (E-MAIL)
> **********************************************
> http://www.aclu.org/affiliates/
> >
> ---
> (5) CONGRESS THEIR VOTING RECORD
> **********************************************
> http://action.aclu.org/site/VoteCenter?page=voteList
> >
> ---
> (6) Intelligence Expert and X-FBI Agent Joins
> **********************************************
> ACLU As "National Security Counsel"
> **********************************************
> http://www.aclu.org/about/staff/27003prs20061005.html
> ---
> WHY YOU ARE CONTACTING THE ACLU:
> **********************************************
> AS YOU CAN SEE AND I PERSONALLY HAVE EXPERIENCED:
> --
> THE ACLU WANTS TO TAKE "ONLY" CASES THAT AFFECTS A LARGE GROUP OF
> PEOPLE
> BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIMITED MONEY.
> ---
> THIS BRINGS US TO THE POINT OF ASKING THE ACLU,
> "SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO FOR ALL OF US".
> ---
> IN ORDER TO GET THE ACLU TO "TAKE OUR CASE" AGAINST THE PRESIDENT OF
> THE
> UNITED STATES AND HIS CABINET (DEFENDANTS) FOR
> PERPETRATING THE CRIMINAL ACT OF "CONSPIRACY AND FRAUD (U.S.CODE-TITLE
> 18) IN WHICH:
> ---
> THE DEFENDANTS "KNOWINGLY AND INTENTIONALLY" MADE
> FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT THE PRESIDENT OF IRAQ IN ORDER TO MAKE THE AMERICAN
> PEOPLE (PLAINTIFFS) AND
> THE U.S. CONGRESS:
> --
> BELIEVE AND FEAR THIS MAN AND HIS SOVEREIGN COUNTRY, THAT IT WOULD
> JUSTIFY AN IMMEDIATE PRE-EMPTIVE ATTACK AND
> OCCUPATION OF IRAQ, WHICH HAS CAUSED THE DEATHS OF HUNDREDS OF
> THOUSANDS OF
> INNOCENT IRAQI
> CITIZENS AND OUR OWN U.S. TROOPS,
> ---
> AS WELL AS CAUSING MILLIONS OF IRAQI PEOPLE TO FLEE THEIR HOMES AND
> COUNTRY AND BECOME
> REFUGEES;
> ---
> MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, WANT TO CONTINUE FUNDING THIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY,
> DEFINED AS "WAR CRIMES",
> ---
> BY ROBBING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OF THEIR TREASURY.;
> ---
> THE OTHER DEFENDANTS IN THIS CASE, WHO ARE THE GREATER NUMBER OF ALL
> MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, INCLUDING THE DEMOCRATS, HAS
> PUBLICLY STATED "THEY REFUSE" TO HOLD THE PRESIDENT AND HIS CABINET
> LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS MASSIVE FRAUD, THROUGH IMPEACHMENT AND
> INDICTMENT.
> ---
> THEREFORE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE NO ADVOCATES TO DO WHAT THE
> AMERICAN
> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DEMANDING, I.E. "STOPPING THESE
> WAR CRIMES AND ROBBERY OF THEIR TREASURY, BY:
> ---
> (A) SEEKING LEGAL ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH THE
> AMERICAN COURTS;
> AND
> --
> (B) FILING PETITIONS WITH THE U.N. SECURITY
> COUNCIL FOR THEIR REFERRAL OF THIS MATTER FOR PROSECUTION BY THE
> "INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT" FOR
> WAR CRIMES OF WHICH;
> --
> THE PREVIOUS U.N. SECRETARY GENERAL, KOFI ANNAN, IS ON RECORD AS
> STATING
> THAT THE U.S. INVASION OF IRAQ VIOLATED
> INTERNATIONAL LAW AND THE U.N.CHARTER.
> ---
> THIS IS NOW A MATTER OF "CRITICAL NATIONAL SECURITY", AS WELL AS OUR
> "CIVIL RIGHTS", BOTH OF WHICH ARE INTENTIONALLY
> BEING DESTROYED, AS IT ALWAYS IS UNDER A FASCIST GOVERNMENT, UNTIL "IT
> IS DESTROYED".
> ---
> THE FACT THAT THE ACLU HAS ADDED TO IT'S STAFF OF
> ATTORNEYS, A FORMER
> FBI AGENT WHO SPECIALIZED IN TERRORISM.
> ---
> THE ACLU STATES THE FOLLOWING IN A 2004 CASE WHICH IS SHOWN ON THEIR
> WEBSITE (CIVIL LIBERTIES IN TIMES OF NATIONAL
> CRISIS):
> ---
> "THE ACLU HAILED THE HISTORIC RULINGS AS A STRONG REPUDIATION OF THE
> GOVT'S ARGUMENT THAT "IT'S ACTIONS" IN THE "WAR ON TERROR"
> ARE.."BEYOND THE RULE OF LAW" & "UNREVIEWABLE BY AMERICAN COURTS".

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OF COURSE YOU HAVE HEARD OF CHENEY'S HALLIBURTON CON-GAME BUT I BET
YOU DIDN'T KNOW HOW BIG THIS ROBBERY WAS, I.E. THIS ROBBERY COMES WITH
"THE KNOWLEDGE OF BOTH THE DEMOS AND REPUBS, WHO APPROVE THE FUNDING
OF THESE "PRIVATE CORPORATIONS" WHICH HAVE REPLACED GOVERNMENT WORKERS
WHO "ARE BY LAW" LIABLE FOR WASTE, FRAUD & ABUSE, BUT "NOT THESE
PRIVATE CORPS".
--
IN ORDER TO STOP THIS "LARGEST ROBBERY OF THE U.S. TREASURY", YOU HAVE
TO GET RID OF THE BUSH REGIME & CONGRESS VIA IMPEACHMENT, BUT THE
THIEVES "ARE THE VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN PROVIDE
IMPEACHMENT", WHICH IS "WHY THE DEMOS REFUSE TO START IMPEACHMENT
PROCEEDINGS", THUS..THE ONLY THING AMERICANS CAN DO IS GET THE ACLU TO
REPRESENT ALL OF US AMERICANS AND SUE EACH OF THEM, JUST AS O.J.
SIMPSON WAS OVER HIS MURDERS.
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NOT ONLY COULD THIS RESULT IN MAKING THESE CORRUPT POLITICIANS
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>From Afghanistan to Iraq: Connecting the Dots With Oil
---????
By Richard W. Behan
AlterNet
Monday 05 February 2007
---????
In the Caspian Basin and beneath the deserts of Iraq, as many as 783
billion barrels of oil are waiting to be pumped.
---
Anyone controlling that much oil stands a good chance of breaking
OPEC's stranglehold overnight, and any nation seeking to dominate the
world would have to go after it.
----????
The long-held suspicions about George Bush's wars are well-placed. The
wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were not prompted by the terrorist
attacks in New York and Washington. They were not waged to spread
democracy in the Middle East or enhance security at home.
---
They were conceived and planned in secret "long before September 11,
2001" and they were undertaken to control petroleum resources.
--
The "global war on terror" began as a fraud and a smokescreen and
remains so today, a product of the Bush Administration's deliberate
and successful distortion of public perception.
---
The fragmented accounts in the mainstream media reflect this warping
of reality, but another more accurate version of recent history is
available in contemporary books and the vast information pool of the
Internet. When told start to finish, the story becomes clear, the dots
easier to connect.
----????
Both appalling and masterful, the lies that led us into war and keep
us there today show the people of the Bush Administration to be
devious, dangerous and far from stupid.
---????
The following is an in-depth look at the oil wars, the events leading
up to them, and the players who made them possible.
---????
Iraq
*****????
The Project for a New American Century, a D.C.-based political think
tank funded by archconservative philanthropies and founded in "1997",
is the source of the Bush Administration's imperialistic urge for the
U.S. to dominate the world.
****************************
Our nation should seek to achieve a "...benevolent global hegemony,"
---
according to William Kristol, PNAC's chairman.
---
The group advocates the novel and startling concept of "pre-emptive
war" as a means of doing so.
---????
On January 26, 1998,
***********************
the PNAC, sent a letter to President William Clinton urging "the
military overthrow of Saddam Hussein in Iraq." The dictator, the
letter alleged, was a destabilizing force in the Middle East, and
posed a mortal threat to "...the safety of American troops in the
region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab
states, and a significant portion of the world's oil supply..."
---
The subjugation of Iraq would be the first application of "pre-emptive
war."
----????
The unprovoked, full-scale invasion and occupation of another country,
however, would be an unequivocal example of:
---
"the use of armed force by a state against the sovereignty,
territorial integrity, or political independence of another state."
---
That is the formal United Nations definition of "military aggression",
and a nation can choose to launch it "only in self-defense."
----
Otherwise it is "an international crime."
******************************************????
President Clinton did "not" honor the PNAC's request.
---????
But sixteen members of the Project for a New American Century would
soon:
"assume prominent positions in the Administration of George W. Bush",
including Dick Cheney, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul
Wolfowitz, Richard Armitage and John Bolton.
---????
The "significant portion of the world's oil supply" was of immediate
concern, because of the "commanding influence of the oil industry in
the Bush Administration."
---
Beside the president and vice president, 8 cabinet secretaries and
the national security advisor:
----
had "direct ties to the industry", and
---
so did "32 others" in the departments of Defense, State, Energy,
Agriculture, Interior, and the Office of Management and Budget.
---????
"Within days of taking office",
President Bush appointed Vice President Cheney to chair a: "National
Energy Policy Development Group."
---
Cheney's "Energy Task Force" was composed of the "relevant federal
officials" and
-----
"dozens of energy industry executives and lobbyists", and
---
it operated in tight secrecy.
---
(The full membership has never been revealed, but Enron's Kenneth Lay
is known to have participated, and the Washington Post reported that
Exxon-Mobil, Conoco, Shell, and BP America did, too.)
---????
During his second week in office,
---
President Bush convened the first meeting of his "National Security
Council."
---
It was a triumph for the PNAC. In just one hour-long meeting, the new
Bush Administration turned upside down the long-standing focus of U.S.
foreign policy in the Middle East.
---
Over Secretary of State Colin Powell's objections, the goal of
reconciling the Israel-Palestine conflict was abandoned, and the
overthrow of Saddam Hussein was set as the new priority. Ron Suskind's
book, The Price of Loyalty, describes the meeting in detail.
---????
The Energy Task Force wasted no time, either. Within three weeks of
its creation,
---
the group was poring over maps of the Iraqi oilfields, pipelines,
tanker terminals, and oil exploration blocks.
----
It studied an inventory of:
"Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts" - dozens of oil
companies from 30 different countries, in various stages of
negotiations for exploring and developing Iraqi crude.
---????
Not a single U.S. oil company was among the "suitors," and that was
intolerable, given a "foreign policy bent on global hegemony."
----
The National Energy Policy document, released May 17, 2001 concluded
this:
---
"By any estimation, Middle East oil producers will remain central to
world security. The Gulf will be a primary focus of U.S. international
energy policy."
---????
That rather innocuous statement can be clarified by a: "top-secret
memo dated February 3, 2001" to the staff of the National Security
Council.
---
Cheney's group, the memo said, was "melding" two apparently unrelated
areas of policy:
---
"the review of operational policies toward rogue states," such as
Iraq, and
---
"actions regarding the capture of new and existing oil and gas
fields."
---
The memo directed the National Security Council staff to cooperate
fully with the Energy Task Force as the "melding" continued.
---
National security policy and international energy policy would be
developed as a coordinated whole. This would prove convenient on
September 11, 2001, still seven months in the future.
--????
The Bush Administration was drawing a bead on "Iraqi oil" long before
the "global war on terror" was invented.
---
But how could the "capture of new and existing oil fields" be made to
seem less aggressive, less arbitrary, less overt?
---????
During April of 2002,
---
almost a full year before the invasion,
the State Department launched a policy-development initiative called:
----
"The Future of Iraq Project" to accomplish this. The "Oil and Energy
Working Group" provided the "disguise for "capturing" Iraqi oil.
---
Iraq, it said in its final report,:
"should be opened to international oil companies as quickly as
possible after the war
---
... the country should establish a conducive business environment to
attract investment in oil and gas resources."
--????
Capture would take the form of investment, and the vehicle for doing
so would be the "production sharing agreement."
***********************************????
Under production sharing agreements, or PSAs,
---
"oil companies are granted ownership"
of a "share" of the oil produced,
in exchange for:
----
investing in development costs, and
"the contracts are binding for up to 30 years."
---
What would happen, though, if the companies' investments were only
minimal, but their shares of the production were obscenely,
disproportionately large?
---????
This is hardwired. According to a UK Platform article titled "Crude
Designs,"
---
production sharing agreements have now been "drafted in Baghdad
covering 75%"
of the "undeveloped Iraqi fields", and
----
the oil companies, waiting to sign the contracts, "will earn as much
as 162% on their investments.
---
And the "foreign suitors" are not quite
so foreign now:
---
The players on the inside tracks are: Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, Conoco-
Phillips, BP-Amoco and Royal Dutch-Shell.
---????
The use of PSAs will "cost the Iraqi people" "hundreds of billions of
dollars"
---------
in just the first few years of
the "investment" program.
---
They would be far better off keeping in place the "structure Iraq has
relied upon since 1972":
---
a "nationalized oil industry"
"leasing pumping rights" to the oil companies, who then "pay
royalties" to the central government.
---
That is how it is done today in Saudi Arabia and the other OPEC
countries.
---????
Production sharing agreements,
"heavily favored by the oil companies",
were specified by George Bush's
State Department.
---
Paul Bremer's, Coalition Provisional Authority "drafted an oil law
privatizing the oil sector",
and American oil interests have lobbied in Baghdad ever since then for
the PSAs.
---
Apparently successfully:
"The Oil Committee" headed by:
Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister Barham Salih is said currently to be
"leaning" toward them.
---????
With the capture of Iraqi oil resources prospectively disguised,
----
"the Halliburton Company" was then hired, secretly, to design a fire
suppression strategy for the Iraqi oil fields. If oil wells were to be
torched during the upcoming war (as Saddam did in Kuwait in 1991), the
Bush Administration would be prepared to extinguish them rapidly.
---
The contract with Halliburton was
signed in "the fall of 2002".
---
Congress had yet to authorize
"the use of force in Iraq."
----????
So a line of dots begins to point at Iraq, though nothing illegal or
unconstitutional has yet taken place.
---
We are still in the policy-formulation stage, but two "seemingly
unrelated areas of policy" - "national security policy" and
"international energy policy" -
have become indistinguishable.
----????
Afghanistan
****************????
The strategic location of Afghanistan can scarcely be overstated.
---
The Caspian Basin contains up to:
$16 trillion worth of oil and gas resources,
**********************************************
and the "most direct pipeline route"
to the richest markets "is through Afghanistan."
----????
After the fall of the Soviet Union,
the first western oil company to take action in the Basin was the:
---
"Bridas Corporation of Argentina." It acquired production leases and
exploration contracts in the region, and
----
by November of 1996
------
had signed an agreement with:
General Dostum of the
"Northern Alliance and with the Taliban" to build a pipeline across
Afghanistan.
----????
Not to be outdone,
the American company, "Unocal"
(aided by an Arabian company, Delta Oil) fought Bridas at every turn.
---
Unocal wanted exclusive control of the trans-Afghan pipeline and
"hired a number of consultants"
in its conflict with Bridas:
---
Henry Kissinger,
----
Richard Armitage
(now Deputy Secretary of State
in the Bush Administration),
---
Zalmay Khalilzad
(a signer of the PNAC letter to President Clinton) and
----
Hamid Karzai.
---????
"Unocal wooed Taliban leaders"
at its "headquarters in Texas", and
hosted them in meetings with
"federal officials in Washington, D.C."
----????
Unocal and the Clinton Administration hoped to have the Taliban cancel
the Bridas contract, but were getting nowhere.
---
Finally, Mr. John J. Maresca,
a Unocal Vice President,
testified to a:
---
"House Committee of International Relations" on February 12, 1998,
*************************
asking politely to "have the Taliban removed" and a stable government
inserted.
His discomfort was well placed.
---????
Six months later,
terrorists linked to Osama bin Laden
bombed the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and
----
two weeks after that:
President Clinton launched a
"cruise missile attack into Afghanistan."
---
Clinton issued an executive order on:
July 4, 1999,
****************
"freezing the Taliban's U.S.-held assets" and "prohibiting further
trade transactions" with the Taliban.
----????
Mr. Maresca could count that as progress. More would follow.
---????
Immediately upon taking office, [Jan 2001]
-----
the "new Bush Administration" actively took up "negotiating with the
Taliban once more",
----
seeking still to have the Bridas contract vacated,
----
in exchange for a "tidy package of foreign aid."
---
The parties met three times, in:
Washington, Berlin, and Islamablad,
but the Taliban wouldn't budge.
*************************************????
Behind the negotiations, however,
"planning was underway to take military action" if necessary.
----
In the spring of 2001:
*************************
the State Department
sought and gained concurrence from both
India and Pakistan to do so, and
-----
in July of 2001,
*******************
"American officials" met with:
"Pakistani" and
"Russian" intelligence agents
to inform them of:
----
"planned military strikes against Afghanistan"
**********************************************
the "following October. [2001]
**********************************
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A British newspaper told of:
---
"the U.S. threatening" both
******************************
"the Taliban" and "Osama bin Laden" -
two months before 9/11 - with military strikes.
***************************???
---?
According to an article in the UK Guardian,
---
State Department official,
Christina Rocca
*******************
"told the Taliban" at their
"last pipeline negotiation in August of 2001", just five weeks before
9/11,
----
"Accept our offer of a carpet of gold,
or we bury you under a carpet of bombs."
----????
The Great Game and Its Players
************************************????
The geostrategic imperative of
reliable oil supplies has a long history, arguably beginning with the
British Navy in World War I.
----
First Lord of the Admiralty Winston Churchill repowered the British
fleet -
from coal (abundant in the UK)
to oil (absent in the UK), and
thus began the Great Game:
----
jockeying by "the world powers" for
"the strategic control of petroleum."
(Churchill did this to replace with oil pumps the men needed to shovel
coal - a large share of the crew - so they could man topside battle
stations instead.)
----
Iraq today "is a British creation",
**************
formed almost a century ago to supply the British fleet with fuel, and
it is still a focal point of "the Game."
---????
The players have changed as
"national supremacy has changed",
as oil companies have morphed over time, and as powerful men have
lived out their destinies.
---????
Among "the major players today" are:
---
the Royal family of Saudi Arabia and
the Bush family of the state of Maine
(more recently of Texas).
And they are closely and intimately related.
----
The relationship goes back
"several generations", but it was particularly poignant in:
---
"the first Gulf War in 1990-91,"
*********************************
when the U.S. and British armed forces stopped Saddam Hussein in
Kuwait, before his drive reached the Arabian oil fields.
---
Prime Minister, "John Major of the UK", and President George H.W. Bush
Sr
----
became the much esteemed champions of the "Arabian monarchy", and
---
James Baker,
**************
Bush's Secretary of State,
was well regarded, too. (Years earlier, Mr. Baker and a friend of the
royal family's had been business partners, in building a skyscraper
bank building in Houston.)
---????
The Carlyle Group:
********************
"Where the Players Meet to Profit"
---????
After President Bush Sr,
Secretary Baker, and
Prime Minister Major
----
left office, they all became "active"
participants and investors in the Carlyle Group, "a global private
equity investment firm"
---
"comprised of dozens of former world leaders,"
---
international business executives
(including the family of Osama bin Laden);
**********************************************
former diplomats, and
---
high-profile political operatives from
" 4 U.S. Administrations."
---
For years, Carlyle would serve as
"the icon of the Bush/Saudi relationship."
---????
Carlyle, with its headquarters
"just six blocks from the White House",
----
invests heavily in all the industries involved in the Great Game:
----
the defense, security, and energy industries, and it "profits
enormously" from:
"the Afghan and Iraqi wars."
---????
In the late 1980s,
*********************
Carlyle's personal networking brought together George W. Bush, Jr the
future 43rd U.S. president, and
----
$50,000 of financial backing for:
his Texas oil company, Arbusto Energy.
----
The investor was "Salem bin Laden" (half-brother of Osama bin Laden)
"who managed the Carlyle investments"
of the Saudi bin Laden Group.
----
(After the tragedy of 9/11,
by mutual consent, the bin Laden family and Carlyle terminated their
business dealings.)
---
George Bush, Jr- left Carlyle in 1992
to run for governor of Texas.
---????
Ex-President Bush,
Ex-Prime Minister Major, and
Ex-Secretary Baker,
---
in the 1990's, were:
"Carlyle's advance team",
scouring the world for profitable investments and investors.
---
In Saudi Arabia, they met with the royal family, and with the two
wealthiest,
"non-royal families" -
"the bin Ladens and the bin Mahfouzes."
---????
Khalid bin Mahfouz:
*********************
was prominent in:
Delta Oil,
Unocal's associate in the Afghan pipeline conflict.
----
He was later "accused of financing al Qaeda," and named in a trillion
dollar lawsuit
brought by the families of 9/11 victims.
----
(It was Mr. bin Mahfouz who had been Mr. Baker's business associate in
Houston.)
---????
"Carlyle retained James Baker's"
Houston law firm, Baker-Botts, and
Baker himself served as:
----
Carlyle Senior Counselor from 1993 until 2005. (Other clients of Baker-
Botts:
----
Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, Texaco, Shell, Amoco, Conoco-Phillips,
Halliburton, and Enron.)
---????
Mr. Baker has long been willing to:
put foremost the:
---
financial advantage of himself,
his firm, and
his friends,
---
often at the expense of patriotism and public service. As President
Reagan's,
Secretary of the Treasury,:
----
he presided over the savings-and-loan scandal, in which S&L executives
like Charles Keating
---
and the current President's brother, Neil Bush handed the American
taxpayers a bill to pay, over a 40-year period, of $1.2 trillion.
---
His law firm willingly took on the defense of Prince Sultan bin Abdul
Azis,
the Saudi Defense Minister
---
sued by the families of 9/11 victims for complicity in the attacks.
----????
We will encounter Mr. Baker again soon.
----????
In September of 2000,
*****************************
the "Project for a New American Century" (PNAC) published a report,:
----
"Rebuilding America's Defenses."
---
It advocated pre-emptive war once again,
**********************************************
but noted... "its acceptance"
would be difficult in the "absence of":
"some catastrophic and catalyzing event, "like a new Pearl Harbor."
****************************
---????
President Bush "formally established"
******************************************
the PNAC's prescription for:
"pre-emptive and premeditated war as:
****************************************
---
"U.S. policy" when "he signed a document" entitled:
---
"The National Security Strategy of
the United States of America"
---
early in his first term.
----????
Still nothing illegal or unconstitutional had been done.
---????
But the "rationale and the planning" for: attacking both Afghanistan
and Iraq
******************************************
were in place.
***************
---
The preparations had all been done:
"secretly, wholly within the executive branch."
--
The Congress was not informed
until the endgame, when
---
President Bush, making his dishonest case for the "war on terror"
asked for and
"was granted the discretion to use military force."
---
The American people were equally uninformed and misled.
---
Probably, never before in our history
was such a drastic and momentous action undertaken with: so little
public knowledge or
Congressional oversight:
---
the dispatch of America's armed forces into four years of violence, at
horrendous costs in life and treasure.
----????
Then a catastrophic event took place.
---
A hijacked airliner probably en route to the White House crashes in
Pennsylvania,
the Pentagon was afire, and
the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center were rubble.
---????
In the first hours of frenetic response, "fully aware of al Qaeda's
culpability",
----
both President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld sought frantically to:
---
"link Saddam Hussein to the attacks",
as we know from:
Richard Clarke's book, "Against All Enemies".
----
They anxiously waited to proceed with their planned invasion of Iraq.
----????
If the Bush Administration "needed a reason" "to proceed with their
invasions",
---
they could not have been handed a more fortuitous and spectacular
excuse, and
they played their hand brilliantly.
---???
9/11 was a shocking event of unprecedented scale, but it was:
--
"simply not an invasion of national security."
---
"It was a localized criminal act of terrorism", and to compare it, as
the Bush Administration immediately did, to Pearl Harbor was
ludicrous:
---
The hijacked airliners were not the vanguard of a formidable naval
armada, an air force, and a standing army ready to engage in all out
war, as the Japanese were prepared to do and did in 1941.
---????
By equating "a criminal act of terrorism" with "a military threat of
invasion",
---
the Bush Administration consciously
"adopted fear mongering"
"as a mode of governance."
---
It was an "extreme violation of the public trust," but it served
perfectly:
"their need to justify warfare."
----????
As not a few disinterested observers noted at the time,:
---
international criminal terrorism is best countered by "international
police action",
which Israel and other nations have proven many times over to be
effective.
----
Military mobilization is irrelevant.
It has proven to be counterproductive.
---????
Why, then, was a "war" declared on "terrorists and "states that harbor
terrorists?"
---????
The "pre-planned attack on Afghanistan",
---
as we have seen, was meant to:
nullify the contract between the Taliban and the Bridas Corporation.
---
It was "a matter of international energy policy."
---
It had nothing to do, as designed,
"with apprehending Osama bin Laden -
"a matter of security policy."
---????
But the two "seemingly unrelated areas of policy" had been "melded,"
---
so here was an "epic opportunity"
to bait-and-switch.
---
Conjoining the terrorists and the states that harbored them made "war"
plausible, and
---
"the Global War on Terror" was born:
******************************************
It would be necessary to:
"overthrow the Taliban as well as to bring Osama bin Laden to
justice."
---????
(In retrospect, the monumental fraud of the "war on terror" is crystal
clear.
---
In Afghanistan the Taliban was overthrown instead of bringing the
terrorist Osama bin Laden to justice, and
----
in Iraq there were no terrorists at all.
---
But Afghanistan and Iraq are dotted today with "permanent military
bases"
guarding the seized petroleum assets.)
----????
On October 7, 2001
***********************
the "carpet of bombs" is unleashed over Afghanistan.
---
Hamid Karzai,
****************
the former Unocal consultant,
is installed as head of an Afghan
interim government.
---
Subsequently, he is elected
President of Afghanistan, and
welcomes the first U.S. envoy -
---
Mr. John J. Maresca,
the Vice President of the Unocal Corporation who had implored Congress
to have the Taliban overthrown.
---
Mr. Maresca was succeeded by
"Mr. Zalmay Khalilzad" -
*************************
also a former Unocal consultant.
************************************
---
(Mr. Khalilzad has since become
"Ambassador to Iraq", and
***********************
---
has now been nominated to:
replace John Bolton,
his PNAC colleague,
as the ambassador to the UN.)
*********************************
---????
With the Taliban banished and the Bridas contract moot,:
---
Presidents Karzai of Afghanistan and
---
Musharraf of Pakistan
---
meet on February 8, 2002,
sign an agreement for a new pipeline,
and the way forward is open for
Unocal/Delta once more.
---????
The Bridas contract was breached
"by U.S. military force",
but behind the combat was Unocal.
---
Bridas sued Unocal in the U.S. courts
"for contract interference and won",
***************************************
overcoming
Richard Ben Veniste's law firm
***********************************
in 2004. That firm had multibillion-dollar interests in the Caspian
Basin and
shared an office in Uzbekistan
with the Enron Corporation.
---
In 2004,
**********
Mr. Ben Veniste was
serving as a 9/11 Commissioner.
*************************************
---????
About "a year after" the
"Karzai (Afghan)/Musharraf (Pakistan) the agreement was signed,
**************************
an article in the trade journal:
"Alexander's Gas and Oil Connections" described the readiness of:
---
"3 US federal agencies"
***************************
to finance the prospective pipeline:
***************************************
---
the U.S. Export/Import Bank,
---
the Trade and Development Agency, and
---
the Overseas Private Insurance Corporation.
---
The article continued, "...some recent reports ... indicated ...:
---
"the United States was willing to:
police the pipeline infrastructure through permanent stationing of its
troops in the region."
**********************************************
The article appeared on February 23, 2003.
---????
The objective of:
"the first premeditated war was now achieved."
---
The Bush Administration stood ready with financing to build the
pipeline across Afghanistan, and with a permanent military presence to
protect it.
---????
Within two months:
*********************
President Bush sent the armed might of America "sweeping into Iraq."
---????
Then came the "smokescreen" of:
"carefully crafted deceptions."
---
The staging of the Jessica Lynch rescue.
---
The toppling of the statue in Baghdad.
---
"Mission accomplished".
---
The orchestrated capture,
kangaroo court trial, and
hurried execution of Saddam Hussein.
---
Nascent "democracy" in Iraq.
---
"All were scripted" to burnish the image of George Bush's fraudulent
war."
**********************************
The smokescreen includes:
"the cover-up of 9/11."
---
Initially and fiercely resisting any inquiry at all, "President Bush
finally appoints a 10-person "9/11 Commission."
----????
The breathtaking "exemptions" accorded:
---
President Bush and
Vice President Cheney
in the inquiry;
rendered the entire enterprise a farce:
---
They were "interviewed" together,
---
no transcription of the conversation was allowed, and
---
they were not under oath.
---
The Commission report finally places
"the blame on "faulty intelligence."
************************************????
Many of the 10 commissioners,
moreover, were burdened with stunning conflicts of interest -
---
Mr. Ben Veniste, for example -
mostly by their connections to the oil and defense industries.
---
The Carlyle Group contributed to: Commissioner Tim Roemer's
*********************************
political campaigns.
---
Commission Chairman, Thomas Kean:
********************************************
was a Director of Amerada Hess,
which had formed a partnership with Delta Oil, the Arabian company of
Khalid bin Mahfouz, and that company was teamed with Unocal in the
Afghan pipeline project.
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Vice-Chairman, Lee Hamilton:
*********************************
serves on the board of
"Stonebridge International consulting group, which is:
---
advising Gulfsands Petroleum and
Devon Energy Corporation about
"Iraqi oil opportunities."
----????
The apparent manipulation of
pre-war intelligence:
is not addressed by the 9/11 Commission,
**********************************************
the "veracity of the Administration's lies" and "distortions":
---
is assumed without question, and
---
the troubling incongruities of 9/11 are ignored:
---
The theories of controlled demolition,
the prior short-selling of airline stock, the whole cottage industry
of skepticism.
---????
The doubters and critics of 9/11 are often dismissed as conspiracy
crazies,
---
but you needn't claim conspiracy to be skeptical.
---
Why did both President Bush and
Vice President Cheney:
---
pressure Senate Majority Leader,
Tom Daschle to forego any investigation at all?
---
Failing in that, why did the President then use "Executive Privilege"
so often to withhold and censor documents?
---
Why did the White House refuse to testify under oath?
---
Why the insistence on the loopy and unrecorded Oval Office interview
of Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney simultaneously?
---????
There is much we don't know about 9/11.
---????
The Iraq Study Group
*************************????
Viewing the carnage in Iraq, and
seeking desperately to find a way out of it,
---
the U.S. Congress appointed on
March 15, 2006 the "Iraq Study Group".
*******************************************
It was also called the:
"Baker-Hamilton Commission"
after its co-chairmen,
---
the peripatetic problem-solvers:
James Baker and Lee Hamilton.
---
It was charged with:
"assessing the situation in Iraq" and
"making policy recommendations."
----????
The Commission assessed the situation as:
---
"grave and deteriorating" and
recommended substantive changes in handling it:
---
draw down the troop levels and
---
negotiate with Syria and Iran.
---
These recommendations were:
"rejected out of hand by the Bush" Administration, but
---
those about the oil sector could hardly have been more pleasing.
---????
The Commission's report urged:
---
Iraqi leaders to "... reorganize the
"national industry as a commercial enterprise."
---
That sounds like code for:
"privatizing the industry"
(which had been nationalized in 1972.)
---
In case that wasn't clear enough,
the Commission encouraged "...
---
"investment in Iraq's oil sector by the international energy
companies."
----
That sounds like code for Exxon/Mobil, Chevron/Texaco, Conoco/
Phillips, BP/Amoco and Royal Dutch Shell.
----
The Commission urged:
"support for the World Bank's efforts"
to "ensure that best practices are used in contracting." And that
sounds like code for Production Sharing Agreements.
---????
Mr. Baker is a clever and relentless man.
---
He will endorse pages and pages of changes in strategy and tactics -
but leave firmly in place
"the one inviolable purpose" of
---
the conflict in Iraq: "capturing the oil."
*****************************************????
A Colossus of Failure
************************
"The objectives of the oil wars"
*********************************
may be non-negotiable, but
**************************
that doesn't guarantee
their successful achievement.
---????
The evidence suggests the contrary.
---????
As recently as January of 2005,
---
the Associated Press expected construction of the Trans Afghan
Pipeline to begin in 2006.
---
So did News Central Asia.
---
But by October of 2006,
NCA was talking about construction "...
"as soon as there is stability in Afghanistan."
----????
As the Taliban, the warlords, and the poppy growers reclaim control of
the country, clearly there is no stability in Afghanistan, and none
can be expected soon.
---????
Unocal has been bought up by the Chevron Corporation.
---
The Bridas Corporation is now part of BP/Amoco.
---
Searching the companies' websites for "Afghanistan pipeline" yields,
in both cases, zero results.
---
Nothing is to be found on the sites of the prospective funding
agencies. The pipeline project appears to be dead.
---????
The "Production Sharing Agreements"
for Iraq's oil fields:
---
cannot be signed until the country's oil policies are codified in
statute.
---
That was supposed to be done by December of 2006, but Iraq is in a
state of chaotic violence.
---
The "hydrocarbon law" is struggling along - one report suggests it may
be in place by March - so the signing of the PSA's will be delayed at
least that long.
---????
The U.S. and British companies that stand to gain so much -:
---
Exxon/Mobil, Chevron/Texaco, Concoco/Phillips, BP/Amoco and Royal
Dutch Shell - will stand a while longer. They may well have to stand
down.
---????
On October 31, 2006
************************
the newspaper "China Daily" reported
on the visit to China by:
---
"Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein Shahristani." Mr. Shahristani, the story
said,
---
"welcomed Chinese oil companies"
to participate in the
"reconstruction of the Iraqi oil industry." That was alarming, but
understated.
---????
Stratfor,
********
the American investment research service, was more directly to the
point, in a report dated September 27, 2006 (a month before Minister
Shahristani's visit, so it used the future tense).
---
The Minister "... will talk to the Chinese about "honoring contracts
from the Saddam Hussein era...."
---
This announcement could change the face of energy development in the
country and leave U.S. firms completely out in the cold."
---????
The oil wars are abject failures.
************************************
The Project for a New American Century wanted, in a "fantasy of
retrograde imperialism," ---
to remove Saddam Hussein from power.
---
President George Bush launched an
"overt act of military aggression"
to do so,:
---
at a cost of more than 3,000 American lives,
---
hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, and
---
half a trillion dollars.
---
In the process he has:
************************
exacerbated the threats from international terrorism,
----
ravaged the Iraqi culture,
---
ruined their economy and their public services,
---
sent thousands of Iraqis fleeing their country as refugees,
---
created a maelstrom of sectarian violence,
----
dangerously destabilized the Middle East,
----
demolished the global prestige of the United States, and
---
defamed the American people.
????--------
Richard W. Behan lives and writes on Lopez Island, off the northwest
coast of Washington state. He is working on a new book, "To Provide
Against Invasions:
Corporate Dominion and America's Derelict Democracy.
---
He can be reached at rwb...@rockisland.com.
??-------

Robert

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Now that the U.S. owns Iraq, it is the largest producer of petroleum
in the world. The U.S. does not want the Iraq war to end, because by
keeping control of Iraq oil it effectively castrates OPEC from ever
causing another oil crisis in the U.S. (OPEC slows down, the U.S.
pumps faster in Iraq). A story about this is no the internet at:

www.TheDragonOption.com

For more about OPEC, see this topic:

www.TheDragonOption.com/chapter4.html#topic13

Rico

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THIS ARTICLE ALSO PROVES THAT THE U.N. SEC.GEN., KOFI ANNAN, AND X-CIA
DIRECTOR'S DAUGHTER, WERE WELL AWARE OF BUSH'S THREAT OF WAR AGAINST
TALIBAN AKA BIN LADEN OVER OIL PIPELINE,
--
"NOT" OVER THE BOMBINGS OF U.S.EMBASSIES WHICH CLINTON RESPONDED WITH
BOMBINGS IN AFGHAN IN 1998;
---
"THE OIL PIPELINE MEETINGS" CONTINUED
RIGHT UP TO AUGUST 2001, BUT THE AM. MEDIA REFUSED TO TELL THE AM.
PEOPLE ABOUT ALL OF THIS, AS DID OUR OWN CONGRESS WHO KNEW FULL WELL
THESE MEETINGS AND THREATS OF WAR BY BUSH WERE TAKING PLACE.
--
THE 9-11 ATTACKS WERE "ALL ABOUT BUSH'S WAR THREATS", MAKING THESE
ATTACKS A "LEGITIMATE SELF-DEFENSE RE PREEMPTIVE STRIKE".
---
IN OTHER WORDS AMERICANS, THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME AND MANY MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS "WERE THE TERRORISTS" WHO HAD THREATENED AFGHAN WITH
DESTRUCTION IF IT DIDN'T ROLL OVER AND LET THE U.S. MILITARY AND OIL
CORPS. OCCUPY THEIR LAND IN ORDER TO BUILD AN OIL PIPELINE THAT THEY
DIDN'T WANT ON THEIR LAND.
--
THIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES UNDER MANY U.S.
PRESIDENTS AND "IS WHY THE U.S. AND AMERICANS ARE SO HATED".
--
DO YOU GET IT NOW?
---
IF SO, ARE YOU STILL SO STUPID AND LAZY THAT YOU WANT TO CONTINUE
KILLING OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS IN THESE FOREIGN LANDS WHO "BLINDLY
THINK" THEY ARE PROTECTING THE U.S.? --
CLEARLY THEY "THINK" THEY ARE "PATRIOTIC HEROES" WHEN THEY ARE
STUPIDLY USED AS MERE FODDER AND KILLERS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS.
--
ARE YOU HAPPY THAT YOU ARE ALLOWING THE ROBBERY OF OUR TREASURY TO
FUND THESE FRAUDULENT OCCUPATIONS?
--
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOW "THE TARGETS" OF MANY MILITANT GROUPS AND
THE INNOCENT CIVILIANS IN THESE SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES, WHO ARE MAD AS
HELL AND WON'T TAKE THIS U.S. FASCIST ACTION ANY MORE,
--
OF WHICH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE APPEAR TO BE SUPPORTING AND NOT STOPPING.
--
THIS HISTORICAL PATTERN OF FASCIST CONDUCT BY THE U.S. "IS THE
REALITY" AND THE WORLD'S PEOPLE KNOW ALL ABOUT IT, WHILE THE STUPID
AND DELUSIONAL AMERICANS CLAIM "THOSE WHO ATTACK OUR TROOPS IN THESE
ILLEGAL OCCUPATIONS, "ARE THE TERRORISTS" AND "WE MUST KILL "THEM".
--
HITLER MUST BE ENVIOUS BECAUSE HE TRIED TO DO THE "SAME THING" UNTIL
"THE WORLD DECIDED TO STOP HIM BY BOMBING GERMANY AND DROP TWO NUKES
ON JAPAN, BOTH OF WHICH KILLED MILLIONS OF CIVILIANS.
--
OH YES, THE "MUSHROOM CLOUD" THAT THE BUSH REGIME WAS TALKING ABOUT IN
THEIR LIES ABOUT SADDAM'S WMD IN ORDER TO PUT FEAR INTO AMERICANS,
"WILL BE LAUNCHED ON THE U.S."
---
BUT IT WILL BE DONE THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF "MANY COUNTRIES", WHO ARE
SICK TO DEATH OF THE FASCIST U.S. GOVT. AND "THEY WILL BE JUSTIFIED IN
DOING IT".
--
SO AS THEY SAY, BEND OVER AND KISS YOUR ASS GOOD-BYE, BECAUSE YOU,
AMERICANS, LIKE THE GERMAN AND JAPANESE PEOPLE, ARE DOING "NOTHING" TO
STOP THIS "GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR" THAT IS BEING CONDUCTED BY "YOUR
GOVERNMENT" AND IT HAS TOLD YOU THAT "IS THE PLAN", I.E. ATTACKING AT
LEAST 60 COUNTRIES WHICH BUSH SAYS "IS HOME TO SOME TERRORISTS".
--
I.E. WWIII IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
--
Subject: AUGUST 2001-LAST MEETING BETWEEN U.S. & TALIBAN RE OIL BEFORE
9-11-01
---
Subject: AUG.2001-LAST MEETING WITH US & TALIBAN-5 WEEKS BEFORE
9-11-01
BUSH THREATS OVER OIL WITH TALIBAN-
5 WEEKS TO 9-11-01
---
Again there is MORE evidence that Bush's war on terrorism is linked
Only to Oil.
---
The following talks about it through a French on-line publisher of
"Intelligence Online".
-------
http://www.intelligenceonline.com/transition/p_indigo.asp
>
------
U.S. Policy Towards Taliban Influenced by Oil -
**********************************************
Say Authors
---
By Julio Godoy, Inter Press Service
PARIS, Nov 15 (IPS) -
---?
Under the influence of U.S. oil companies,
>
the government of George W. Bush initially blocked U.S. secret service
investigations on terrorism,
>
while it bargained with the Taliban the delivery of Osama bin Laden in
exchange for political recognition and economic aid,
>
two French intelligence analysts claim.
----
In the book "Bin Laden, la verite interdite" ("Bin Laden, the
forbidden truth"), that appeared in Paris on Wednesday, the authors,
---
Jean-Charles Brisard and
Guillaume Dasquie,
---
reveal that the Federal Bureau of Investigation's deputy director John
O'Neill resigned in July in protest over the obstruction.
---
Brisard claims O'Neill told them that "the main ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
?
**********************************
obstacles to investigate Islamic terrorism were
**********************************************
U.S. oil corporate interests and the role played
**********************************************
by Saudi Arabia in it".
*************************
The two claim the U.S. government's main objective in Afghanistan was
to consolidate the position of the Taliban regime to obtain access to
the oil and gas reserves in Central Asia.
---
They affirm that until August [2001], the U.S.
government saw the Taliban regime "as a source of stability in Central
Asia that would enable the construction of an oil pipeline across
Central Asia", from the rich oilfields in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan,
and Kazakhstan,
---
through Afghanistan and Pakistan, to the Indian Ocean.
----
Until now, says the book, "the oil and gas reserves of Central Asia
have been controlled by Russia.
>
The Bush government wanted to change all that".
---
But, confronted with "Taliban's refusal" to accept
U.S. conditions,
******************
"this rationale of energy security
************************************
changed into a military one",
*******************************
the authors claim.
----
"At one moment during the negotiations,
the U.S. representatives told the Taliban,:
**********************************************
'either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold,
**********************************************
or we bury you under a carpet of bombs',"
**********************************************
Brisard said in an interview in Paris.
----
According to the book, the government of Bush began to negotiate with
the Taliban
**********************************************
immediately after coming into power in
********************************************
February.[2001]
******************
---
"U.S. and Taliban" diplomatic representatives met several times in:
>
Washington,
Berlin and Islamabad.
---
To polish their image in the United States,
>
the Taliban even employed a U.S. expert on public
**********************************************
relations, Laila Helms.
*************************
---
The authors claim that Helms is also
"an expert in the works of U.S. secret services",
**********************************************
for her uncle, Richard Helms, who is a former
**********************************************
director of the Central Intelligence Agency
**********************************************
(CIA).
----
The last meeting between U.S. and Taliban
**********************************************
representatives took place in August,
******************************************
"five weeks" before the attacks on New York
**********************************************
and Washington, the analysts maintain.
----
On that occasion,
Christina Rocca,
******************
in charge of Central Asian affairs
for the U.S. government,
---
met the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan in Islamabad.
---
Brisard and Dasquie have:
******************************
long experience in intelligence analysis.
********************************************
---
Brisard:
********
was until the late 1990s director of economic analysis and strategy
for Vivendi,
a French company.
---
"He also worked for French secret services," and wrote for them in
1997 a report on the now famous Al Qaeda network, headed by bin Laden.
----
Dasquie:
**********
is an investigative journalist and publisher of Intelligence Online, a
respected newsletter on diplomacy, economic analysis and strategy,
available through the Internet.
----
Brisard and Dasquie draw a portrait of closest aides to President
Bush, linking them to oil business.
----
Bush's family has a strong oil background.
---
So are some of his top aides.
---
>From the U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney,
---
through the director of the National Security Council Condoleeza Rice,
to
---
the Ministers of Commerce and Energy,
Donald Evans and Stanley Abraham,
all have for long worked for U.S. oil companies.
----
Cheney was until the end of last year president of Halliburton, a
company that provides services for oil industry;
---
Rice was between 1991 and 2000
manager for Chevron;
---
Evans and Abraham worked for
Tom Brown, another oil giant.
---
Besides the secret negotiations held between Washington and Kabul and
the importance of the oil industry,
---
the book takes issue with the role played by Saudi Arabia in fostering
Islamic fundamentalism, in the personality of bin Laden, and with the
networks that the Saudi dissident built to finance his activities.
---
Brisard and Dasquie contend:
---
the U.S. government's claim that it had been prosecuting bin Laden
since
1998.
---
"Actually," Dasquie says,
---
"the first state to officially prosecute bin Laden was Libya, on the
charges of terrorism."
---
"Bin Laden wanted to settle in Libya in the early 1990s, but was
hindered by the government of Muammar Qaddafi," Dasquie claims.
---
"Enraged by Libya's refusal,
*******************************
bin Laden organised attacks inside Libya,
**********************************************
including assassination attempts
against Qaddafi."
---
Dasquie singles out one group,
--
"the Islamic Fighting Group (IFG)",
reputedly the most powerful Libyan dissident organisation, based in
London, and
---
directly linked with bin Laden.
**********************************
---
"Qaddafi even demanded Western police
institutions, such as Interpol,
---
"to pursue the IFG and bin Laden",
but never obtained co- operation,"
*************************************
Dasquie says.
---
"Until today, members of IFG openly lived in London."
---
The book confirms earlier reports that:
--
the U.S. government worked closely with the United Nations during the
negotiations with the
Taliban.
---
"Several meetings took place this year,
*******************************************
under the arbitration of:
***************************
---
Francesc Vendrell,
personal representative of
UN secretary general Kofi Annan,
---
"to discuss the situation in Afghanistan,"
********************************************
says the book.
---
"Representatives of:
---
the U.S. government and
---
Russia, and
---
the six countries that border with Afghanistan
---
were present at these meetings,"
it says.
---
"Sometimes, representatives of the Taliban
**********************************************
also sat around the table."
***************************
----
These meetings, also called "6+2"
**************************************
because of the number of states
(six neighbours plus U.S. and Russia)
involved,
---
have been confirmed by Naif Naik,
former Pakistani Minister for Foreign Affairs.
---
In a French television news programme two weeks ago, Naik said during
a "6+2" meeting in Berlin in July,
---
the discussions turned around "the formation of a government of
national unity.
---
If the Taliban had accepted this coalition,
*********************************************
they would have immediately received
*******************************************
international economic aid."
******************************
---
"And the pipe lines from Kazakhstan and
**********************************************
Uzbekistan would have come,"
*********************************
he added.
---
Naik also claimed that:
---
Tom Simons,
**************
the U.S. representative
---
at these meetings,
openly threatened the Taliban and Pakistan.
**********************************************
---
"Simons said,
---
'either the Taliban behave as they ought to, or Pakistan convinces
them to do so,
or we will use another option'.
---
The words Simons used were:
>
'a military operation',"
Naik claimed.
*********************
? : t r u t h o u t 2001
----
http://www.truthout.org/11.17A.Oil.Taliban.htm

Rico

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Rico wrote:
> EACH OF US, AMERICANS ARE CONSIDERED JUST AS GUILTY OF THESE WAR
> CRIMES, AS THE BUSH REGIME IS BECAUSE...WE ARE NOT STOPPING IT.
> ---
> WE MUST CONTACT THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL ASKING THEM TO REFER OUR
> CASE TO THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT FOR PROSECUTION OF THE BUSH
> REGIME AND CONGRESS, FOR FUNDING THESE CLEAR AND INTENTIONAL WAR
> CRIMES.
> --
> NOTE: GO TO MY LINKS OF MY OTHER THREADS WHERE I GIVE YOU THE
> BACKGROUND ON THE BUSH REGIME AND OIL PIPELINES IN AFGHAN.
> ---
> THE WORLD IS WATCHING US CITIZENS TO SEE IF WE ARE GOING TO STOP THIS
> OR SUPPORT IT. DOING NOTHING TELLS THEM, "WE SUPPORT THESE WAR CRIMES".
> ----
> Subject:5-13-07-
> ---
> AFGHAN-WAR CRIMES- Civilian Deaths Undermine War on Taliban
> ----
> http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051307B.shtml
> >
> ---
+++++++
6-25-07-UPDATE ON U.S. GI's KILLING OF INNOCENT AFGHAN CIVILIANS.
---
WHY? BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR U.S. TROOPS "TO KNOW WHO TO KILL"
AND EVEN IF THEY DID KNOW, THEY WOULD "STILL BE KILLING PEOPLE WHO
WANT THE U.S. OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY"...THE VERY SAME WAY THAT WE, IN
THE U.S. WOULD FIGHT AGAINST ILLEGAL ATTACKERS AND OCCUPIERS OF "OUR
COUNTRY".
---
THE U.S. CAN JUSTIFIABLY BE CALLED "A TERRORIST NATION" AND BE
ATTACKED BY "ANY COUNTRY".
--
AMERICANS YOU BETTER WAKEUP "NOW" BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. CONTACT YOUR
LOCAL ACLU AND ASK THEM TO SUE THE BUSH REGIME FOR THESE WAR CRIMES
WHICH ARE BASED ON "FRAUD".
--
ASK THE ACLU TO GET A FEDERAL INJUNCTION TO "STOP ALL U.S. MILITARY
FROM THESE KILLINGS AND TO LEAVE AFGHAN AND IRAQ" (GO TO MY ABOVE
THREAD ON THE ACLU TO GET THE E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR YOUR STATE).
--
STOP THIS NOW AMERICA OR PAY THE PRICE OF WWIII, LIKE HITLER AND THE
GERMAN AND JAPANESE PEOPLE PAID.
---
Subject:6-24-07-
AFGHAN-Civilian Deaths in Afghanistan Causing Alarm
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/062507P.shtml
>
--

SHb

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Anyone know if WEBTV comes with a CAPS KEY?

Rico

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I HAVE POSTED ARTICLES THAT PROVE:
--
(1) MANY STATE LEGISLATURES HAVE PASSED NON-BINDING RESOLUTIONS,
TELLING BUSH & CONGRESS TO "GET OUT OF IRAQ";
--
(2) ARTICLES SHOWING THAT 82% OF IRAQIS "WANT THE U.S. OUT OF "THEIR
COUNTRY IRAQ", WHICH THE BUSH REGIME "PROMISED THEY WOULD DO", IF IRAQ
TOLD THEM TO LEAVE, BUT OF COURSE THIS WAS JUST ANOTHER LIE;
--
(3) ARTICLES SHOWING THAT OUR TROOPS "WANT OUT OF IRAQ" THOUSANDS OF
WHICH ARE "FORCED TO GO BACK ON THE KILLING FIELDS, WHILE UNDER
PSYCHIATRIC CARE AND MEDICATIONS;
---
(4) THIS ARTICLE WHICH SHOWS THAT ALL OF THE MAYORS IN THE UNITED
STATES HAVE PASSED A NON-BINDING RESOLUTION, WANTING OUR TROOPS "OUT
OF IRAQ";
--
YET, OUR GOVERNMENT, I.E. THE BUSH REGIME AND BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS,
"REFUSE TO DO WHAT AMERICANS WANT, I.E. "GET OUT OF IRAQ", AND THESE
ARE PEOPLE "WHO WE HAVE ELECTED".
--
WHILE THE DEMOS PUT ON "THE DOG AND PONY SHOW" TO DIVERT OUR ATTENTION
TO "OTHER ILLEGAL ACTS OF THE BUSH REGIME", THEY HAVE CLEARLY TOLD US,
"THEY WON'T IMPEACH THE BUSH REGIME".
---
THE REASON IS CLEAR...MOST OF CONGRESS IS "SUPPORTING THE ILLEGAL
OCCUPATION OF AFGHAN & IRAQ SO THEY CAN PROFIT FROM THE OIL THESE
NATIONS HAVE, WHICH THEY CALL "OUR NATIONAL INTEREST".
--
THIS IS BLATANTLY ILLEGAL AND VIOLATES ALL OF THE TREATIES WE HAVE
SIGNED.
--
"IF" AMERICANS HAD ANY BACKBONE AT ALL, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT CONSIDER
THEMSELVES "PATRIOTIC" AND WILL AGAIN "FLY THEIR AMERICAN FLAG IN A
FEW DAYS ON JULY 4TH-OUR SO-CALLED "INDEPENDENCE DAY",
--
THEY WOULD "USE THIS DAY TO "TALK ABOUT HOW THIS NATION HAS BECOME A
"FASCIST NATION" WHICH THEY ARE "NOW CONTROLLED BY AND ARE TOTALLY
IGNORED BY THE VERY PEOPLE "THEY ELECTED".
--
THE SUBJECT OF "HOLDING A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION" SHOULD BE
DISCUSSED WHILE YOU ARE FLIPPING YOUR HAMBURGERS AND SLURPING YOUR
BEER.
---
WE MUST "NEVER AGAIN" ALLOW THE TAKE OVER OF OUR GOVERNMENT BY THE
CRIMINAL PSYCHOTICS WHO NOW HAVE US UNDER "THEIR CONTROL."
---
READ THE "DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE" AT YOUR CELEBRATION AND COMPARE
IT TO THE TYRANNY WE HAVE NOW. IT "IS THE SAME", IF NOT WORSE.
--
THE ABOVE NON-BINDING RESOLUTIONS ARE JUST A MERE JOKE TO THESE
FASCISTS BECAUSE THEY KNOW, THEY MEAN NOTHING OTHER THEN WHINING, I.E.
THEY CAN'T BE ENFORCED.
--
AMERICANS HAD THE "WILL POWER AND SMARTS" TO GET TO THE MOON VIA "HIGH-
TECH", SOMETHING OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WOULD FIND "UNBELIEVABLE".
--
THIS "SAME HIGH-TECH" COULD GUARANTEE A COMPLETE CHANGE IN HOW "OUR"
GOVERNMENT OPERATES "NOW" AND UNLIKE THE REVOLUTION AGAINST THE FIRST
KING GEORGE, WE, THE PEOPLE COULD "TAKE CONTROL OF OUR OWN GOVERNMENT,
WITH A SHOT BEING FIRED, "IF" WE USE "OUR RIGHT" TO CONTROL OUR
GOVERNMENT VIA CHANGES IN OUR CONSTITUTION, VOTED ON VIA THE INTERNET.
--
WE ARE NOW ALL IDENTIFIED UNDER OUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND UNDER
THAT DATA CONTROLLED SYSTEM, WE COULD "ALL" HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD AND
ACTED ON VIA THESE "CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGES", AFTER, OF COURSE, THIS
DATA IS CLEANED SO AS TO ELIMINATE THOSE NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED.
--
WE CAN ALSO "INCLUDE" THOSE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING IN
PRISONS AND JAILS WHO ARE "DOING THEIR TIME" AND SHOULD NEVER HAVE
BEEN ELIMINATED FROM "THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE", WHEN THEY ARE CLEARLY
PAYING FOR THEIR CRIME.
--
WHITE COLLAR CRIME SHOULD HAVE PENALTIES THAT REQUIRE HEAVY PRISON
TERMS, INSTEAD OF THE MERE WEEKS OR MONTHS THEY HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO
DO.
--
ALL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, INCLUDING JUDGES AND JUSTICES OF THE SUPREME
COURT SHOULD HAVE "LIMITED TERMS OF OFFICE" TO ENSURE THAT THEY COULD
NEVER GET AS ORGANIZED AS THEY ARE NOW, TO WORK "AGAINST THE PEOPLE".
---
OUR ENTIRE "GOVERNMENT SYSTEM FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURES TO FED
OFFICES SHOULD BE CHANGED SO THAT "THE PEOPLE" COULD EASILY REMOVE
THEM VIA A VOTE FROM OUR COMPUTERS WHICH COULD HOLD DATA ABOUT THAT
POLITICIAN FROM AGE 16 YEARS ON.
--
AS IT IS NOW, ONLY THE VERY RICH GET ELECTED BECAUSE THE MEDIA WON'T
EVEN INCLUDE THOSE CANDIDATES WHO DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY. I.E. WE
CAN STOP "ALL CANDIDATE ADS ON TV & MEDIA, AND ALLOW ALL CANDIDATES TO
HAVE "FREE INTERNET SPACE" INSTEAD.
--
AMERICANS HAVE "GOT TO START THINKING AND CARING ABOUT OUR NATION AND
OUR KIDS FUTURE" AND THE STARTING POINT IS:
--
CALLING FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION TO DISCUSS AND VOTE ON THE
CHANGES WE MUST MAKE TO MAKE SURE, WE, THE PEOPLE, WILL ALWAYS HAVE
CONTROL OF "OUR GOVERNMENT".
---
HERE IS THE ARTICLE RE THE MAYORS. IT IS REALLY SAD TO KNOW THAT THIS
ACTION OF THEIRS IS TOTALLY IGNORED BY THE FASCISTS.
--
Subject:6-27-07-US Conference of Mayors Takes a Stand: Out of Iraq!
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/062707N.shtml
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CLEARLY THIS IS YET ANOTHER ATTEMPT OF THE BUSH REGIME TO USE
"PROPAGANDA" TO CHANGE AMERICAN'S MINDS THAT...THEY ARE A LYING PACK
OF FASCISTS WHO CONSTANTLY LIE WHILE THEY CONTINUE TO VIOLATE THE U.S.
LAWS, CONSTITUTION AND ALL TREATIES.
---
NO EXPLANATION IS EVEN GIVEN AS TO "WHY THEY HAVE DECIDED TO OPEN UP
SOME OF THESE CIA FILES", ESPECIALLY AT A TIME WHEN THE POLLS SHOW
THAT AMERICANS "DO NOT TRUST THEIR GOVERNMENT", WHICH OF COURSE "IS"
THE ENTIRE REASON, I.E. TO MAKE AMERICANS "FEEL" LIKE THEY CAN NOW
TRUST THEIR GOVT.
----
THIS ARTICLE PROVIDES INFO "THAT WE ALREADY KNEW THAT THE CIA HAD
DONE....ALL OF WHICH WAS CLEARLY ...ILLEGAL" AND IN FACT, THE CIA IS
"STILL DOING".
--
SO, THIS ASSININE ATTEMPT ONLY PROVES THAT GOVT. "STILL THINKS WE,
AMERICANS ARE SO STUPID THAT WE WILL BELIEVE THIS B.S. ATTEMPT MAKES
THEM "MORE HONEST".
---
NOTE: SEE MY POST RE THE GOVT. IS "AGAIN SHOOTING DRUGS INTO G.I.s AND
NOT LISTING WHAT THE DRUG WAS, WHICH IS CAUSING DEATH VIA KIDNEY
FAILURE."
--
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO "OUR G.IS" SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE
TYPE OF TORTURE AND MURDER THE CIA IS DOING TO OTHER PEOPLE.
--
BOTTOM-LINE:
THE WORLD KNOWS ALL ABOUT THE PSYCHOPATHS IN OUR GOVT. AS WELL AS
KNOWING THAT:
--
AMERICANS REFUSE TO STOP THIS TERRORIST ACTIVITY, THUS, ALL AMERICANS
ARE "SUPPORTING THIS TERROR".
--
NOTE: MANY AMERICANS (ALL VERY STUPID) BELIEVE THE FASCIST GOVT.
CLAIMS OF "WHO IS A TERRORIST" IS "ANYONE WHO PROTESTS AGAINST THIS
U.S. TERRORISM".
---
Subject:6-27-07-The "CIA's" Dirty Tricks from Then ... to Now
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/062807G.shtml
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BOTH THE BUSH REGIME AND CONGRESS HAVE "KNOWN FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS",
THAT THE SO-CALLED "TERRORIST ENEMY" IN IRAQ, HAS BEEN AND STILL ARE;
--
"IRAQI CIVILIANS" WHO HATE THE MURDERS OF THEIR FAMILIES FROM THE
BOMBS VIA "SHOCK AND AWE" TO DATE.
--
NOW, THE BUSH REGIME IS FORCING THESE "SAME CIVILIANS" TO TAKE UP ARMS
AND KILL MORE OF THEIR OWN FAMILIES.
--
IS IT NO WONDER THAT THE SO-CALLED IRAQI MILITARY AND POLICE ARE
"CONSIDERED USELESS" RE "THEIR STANDING UP" SO "THE U.S. TROOPS CAN
STAND DOWN'?
--
THIS B.S. IS JUST MORE FRAUD FROM OUR GOVT. THAT IS BEING "USED AS AN
EXCUSE TO JUSTIFY" OUR TROOPS STAYING IN IRAQ, UNTIL THEY SIGN "THE
OIL LAW", WHICH TAKES AWAY 75% OF THE IRAQI OIL.
---
THE ONLY PEOPLE BEING KILLED ARE THE "IRAQI CITIZENS" AT 1,000 PER
MONTH, PLUS OUR OWN SONS AND DAUGHTERS (OVER 3,500), I.E. "EVERYONE IS
BEING ARMED AND KILLED, EXCEPT THE "RIGHT ONES, THE "REAL TERRORISTS",
OUR GOVT. POLITICIANS AND OIL CORPS.
---
THIS GENOCIDE IS BLATANTLY ILLEGAL UNDER ALL OF OUR TREATIES AND THE
U.N. CHARTER...THESE ARE TRULY "GREAT WAR CRIMES" FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE
OF PERSONAL WEALTH AND POWER.
---
PLEASE GO TO MY THREAD RE "THE ACLU" AND FIND THE ACLU IN YOUR STATE
AND E-MAIL THIS POST TO THEM AND ASK THAT THEY REPRESENT ALL OF THE
PEOPLE IN YOUR STATE WHO ARE "VICTIMS OF THIS INTENTIONAL AND ILLEGAL
MURDER".
--
IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE TIME TO DO THIS, THEN YOU ARE "PART OF THE
PROBLEM, NOT A SOLUTION".
---
Subject:6-27-07-
PROOF-NEW IRAQI FORCES ARE CIVILIANS WHO WANT U.S. OUT &
WON'T KILL OTHER IRAQI CITIZENS, BUT "WILL KILL THE ILLEGALLY
OCCUPYING U.S. TROOPS".
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/062807D.shtml
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BY LAW, CONGRESS HAS THE "AUTHORITY TO MAKE AND REPEAL LAWS"..THE
PRESIDENT CANNOT VIA "SEPARATION OF POWERS";
--
BY LAW, THE "EXECUTIVE BRANCH" I.E. THE PRESIDENT AND HIS STAFF ARE
MANDATED TO "OBEY THE CONSTITUTION OF THE U.S. AND ALL FEDERAL LAWS,
OR BE SUBJECT TO IMPEACHMENT;
---
FACTS:
THE PRESIDENT AND HIS STAFF, IN COLLUSION WITH THE "JUSTICE
DEPT." (ATTY. GEN. ALBERTO GONZALES) HAVE FOR THE PAST 6 YEARS,
INTENTIONALLY REFUSED TO OBEY THE CONSTITUTION AND FEDERAL LAWS, BY
CLAIMING THEY HAVE FRAUDULENTLY CLAIMED AN "EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE" IN
ORDER TO HIDE THEIR CORRUPT AND ILLEGAL ACTS FROM CONGRESS WHO HAS THE
LEGAL AUTHORITY OF INVESTIGATION AND OVERSITE OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
--
THE "GROUNDS THAT THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH "DOES NOT HAVE ANY SUCH LEGAL
AUTHORITY" WAS MADE CLEAR IN THE CASE AGAINST PRESIDENT, RICHARD NIXON.
--
UNFORTUNATELY, THE CONGRESS THAT WAS SITTING DURING THE NIXON ADM.
RIGHT UP TO THIS DATE, "FAILED TO USE THE "COURT'S DECISIONS IN THE
NIXON CASE TO "MAKE LAWS THAT CLEARLY ESTABLISHES "WHEN AND HOW" THE
PRESIDENT CAN "LEGALLY APPLY THE PRESIDENT'S "EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE",
THUS MAKING THE CASE AGAINST G.W. BUSH ANOTHER LONG LEGAL BATTLE.
--
IT IS CLEAR THAT THE BUSH REGIME IS FINALLY BEING INVESTIGATED FOR
IT'S ILLEGAL ACTS BY THE DEMOCRATS, BUT THE DEMOS "REFUSE TO HOLD THE
PRESIDENT "LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE" VIA "IMPEACHMENT" AND ONLY THE
"EMPLOYEES" OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH ARE BEING PROSECUTED.
--
FACT:
--
THERE CAN BE NO DOUBT NOW THAT THE U.S. GOVT. HAS BEEN SO CORRUPTED BY
THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH THAT THE "RULE OF LAW" HAS BEEN TOTALLY DESTROYED
AND A FASCIST GOVT. INSTILLED WHICH IS CLEARLY SUPPORTED BY CONGRESS.
--
HERE ARE 3 ARTICLES THAT "PROVE" CONGRESS IS "STILL PLAYING THIS CON-
JOB ON THE PUBLIC, KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THE BUSH REGIME CAN DELAY
ANY PROSECUTION OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH UNTIL "AFTER" THE PRESIDENT
AND HIS REGIME LEAVE OFFICE.
--
IN OTHER WORDS, CONGRESS HAS "REFUSED" TO SUBPOENEA THE EXECUTIVE
BRANCH OFFICIALS, KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THE BUSH REGIME WOULD
"CONTINUE TO FIGHT THE STUPID "REQUESTS" FOR THESE IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS
AND WITNESSES.
--
THE BUSH REGIME AND CONGRESS HAVE INTENTIONALLY PLAYED THIS "PUBLIC
CON-GAME" SO AS TO MAKE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FEEL "THAT THEIR BLATANTLY
CORRUPT GOVT. IS BEING DEALT WITH, I.E. THESE CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES
SHOULD HAVE "IMMEDIATELY SERVED THE BUSH REGIME WITH THESE SUBPOENEAS
AND WHEN THE DOCUMENTS/WITNESSES DID NOT SHOW UP (USUALLY 20 DAYS), TO
IMMEDIATELY FILE A "CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS" WHICH FILING IN A FEDERAL
COURT, WOULD DEMAND PRODUCTION OF RECORDS AND CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS.
---
NOW THAT CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS ARE "BACK HOME FOR THE JULY 4TH
HOLIDAY" AND MANY MEMBERS ARE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OR RE-ELECTION,
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE "CAN GET EASY ACCESS" TO THEM AND CAN "DEMAND THAT
CONGRESS PASS LEGISLATION DEFINING "EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE" AND STATE
CLEARLY IN LAW, THE "ONLY RARE TIMES" WHEN THIS PRIVILEGE
CAN BE "LEGALLY ASSERTED".
--
SO AMERICANS, IT'S UP TO YOU. IF YOU JUST LOVE THIS FASCIST GOVT. THEN
DO NOTHING. IF YOU GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY THEN "MAKE AN EFFORT
TO CHANGE IT" DURING THIS VERY IMPORTANT TIME "WHEN THE FIRST
AMERICANS STATED "THEIR INDEPENDENCE FROM THE TYRANNICAL GOVT. OF THE
FIRST KING GEORGE.
--
NOTE: SEND THIS POST TO YOUR LOCAL ACLU OFFICE ASKING FOR THEIR HELP
TO FILE A CLASS-ACTION-PUBLIC INTEREST, CIVIL SUIT, AND FOR THE ACLU
TO DEMAND THAT A "SPECIAL PROSECUTING ATTY. BE APPOINTED" TO FILE
CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS
AGAINST THEM.
---
Subject:6-29-07-
Dems Push White House on Privilege Move
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/062907T.shtml
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IT MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE WHEN I HEAR BUSH & HIS STAFF TELL US, THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE, THAT "OTHER COUNTRIES" SHOULD BE HELPING THE U.S. IN
IRAQ NOW.
--
THESE DELUSIONAL BASTARDS WERE TOLD THAT "THEY REFUSED TO HELP THESE
FASCISTS INVADE AND KILL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQIS BACK IN 2002
WHEN THEY (BUSH REGIME) TRIED TO GET THESE SAME COUNTRIES WHO SIT ON
THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL TO VOTE ON A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD HAVE
"LEGALLY ALLOWED BUSH TO INVADE IRAQ".
---
CONGRESS HAS ALSO BEEN SPEWING THIS "SAME MANTRA" OF ASKING "WHY OTHER
COUNTRIES WON'T HELP THE POOR U.S. TO KILL THESE IRAQI CITIZENS".
---
WELL, A POLL HAS FINALLY BEEN MADE OF THESE COUNTRIES, WHICH POLL
SHOULD BE PLASTERED OVER EVERY MIRROR AND WALL IN CONGRESS WHERE THESE
POLITICAL FASCISTS MIGHT "GET THE MESSAGE" THAT THEY HAVE AND STILL
ARE COMMITTING "WAR CRIMES" AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT AND THOSE WITH THE
"LEGAL AUTHORITY" I.E. CONGRESS, IS "REFUSING TO RID US OF THIS
FASCIST CANCER THAT HAS DESTROYED THE U.S.A.
REPUBLIC, AND LEGALLY, THESE "OTHER NATIONS" HAVE THE RIGHT TO BOMB
THE U.S. FOR IT'S CONTINUED BLATANT TERRORISM AND WAR CRIMES.
---
Subject:6-27-07-
--
U.S. Image Abroad-"Still Sinking"
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/062807O.shtml
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IT APPEARS THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE GETTING "SOME" OF OUR MESSAGES RE
IMPEACHMENT AND ARE NOW SIGNING ON TO REP.DENNIS KUCINCH'S APRIL BILL
FOR THE IMPEACHMENT OF CHENEY.
--
BUT AGAIN, THERE IS "NO EXPLANATION" WHY THEY ARE "NOT" INCLUDING BUSH.
--
WE ALL KNOW THAT CHENEY HAS BEEN CONTROLLING THE WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE
BUSH IS SO DELUSIONAL AND INCAPABLE OF THINKING, BUT, BUSH HAS
PUBLICLY STATED THAT "HE WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE" FOR EVERYTHING THAT
HAPPENS ON "HIS WATCH".
---
CHENEY HAS SEEN THAT THE DEMOS HAVE DONE NOTHING TO HOLD BUSH OR
HIMSELF LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE, CONSEQUENTLY CHENEY LIKE ALL FASCISTS,
HAS BLATANTLY LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SO MANY TIMES THAT HE NOW
THINKS "HE IS THE PRESIDENT" AND NO ONE CAN OR WILL TOUCH HIM BECAUSE
THEY "ARE AFRAID OF HIM"; WHICH IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A PSYCHOPATH.
---
PLEASE MAKE A COPY OF THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE AND SEND IT TO YOUR
CONGRESS PEOPLE AND DEMAND THAT THEY PASS THIS BILL TO START THE
IMPEACHMENT PROCESS.
---
(NOTE: GO TO MY ABOVE POST-THREAD#5 THAT HAS THE E-MAIL ADDRESSES OF
YOUR CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS.)
--
REMEMBER, YOUR CONGRESS PEOPLE ARE "AT HOME NOW" WHERE YOU CAN
PERSONALLY CONFRONT THEM.
--
NOTE: I WONDER WHAT PELOSI IS THINKING NOW THAT SOME OF THESE DEMOS
HAVE FINALLY FOUND A BACKBONE AND ARE IGNORING HER COMMAND OF "NO
IMPEACHMENT"?
---
IT HAS TO BE CLEAR TO PELOSI NOW, THAT SHE IS THE CAUSE OF WHY
AMERICANS NO LONGER TRUST THE DEMOS, I.E. BY ARROGANTLY STATING THAT
THE DEMOS WON'T IMPEACH WHEN "THAT IS EXACTLY WHY THE DEMOS ARE IN
CONTROL OF BOTH HOUSES AND "WHY THE DEMOS WILL NOT BE RE-ELECTED NEXT
NOVEMBER, DUE TO THIS ARROGANCE AND REFUSAL TO REMOVE THESE FASCISTS.
--
NOTE: BE SURE TO TELL YOUR CONGRESS PEOPLE THAT "YOU WANT IMPEACHMENT,
NOT A MERE RESIGNATION OF CHENEY BECAUSE YOU WANT HISTORY TO RECORD
THAT THESE FASCISTS WERE THROWN OUT BY THE PEOPLE, NOT MERELY "ASKED
TO LEAVE".
---
Subject:6-29-07-
McDermott to Cheney: "Resign or Face Impeachment"
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/070207D.shtml
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WELL AMERICANS DID YOU FLY YOUR AMERICAN FLAG AND FEEL SO PROUD ABOUT
YOUR COUNTRY, WHILE CELEBRATING THE SO-CALLED "INDEPENDENCE DAY" OR
THE "BIRTH OF THE NATION"?
---
OR, DID YOU FEEL THE KNOT IN YOUR GUT BECAUSE "YOU KNOW" THAT THIS
CELEBRATION WAS NOTHING MORE THAN DELUSIONAL HYPOCRISY BECAUSE "YOU
KNOW" YOUR COUNTRY IS NOW IN THE HANDS OF A FASCIST REGIME WHICH HAS
SUCCESSFULLY DESTROYED YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS AND IS NOW
TELLING US THAT "IT" IS ABOVE THE LAWS THAT EXIST, SINCE "ONLY THEY"
WILL ENFORCE THE LAWS THEY LIKE AND WILL CREATE THEIR OWN LAWS VIA
"EXECUTIVE ORDERS" AND "SIGNING STATEMENTS".
---
I HAVE READ MANY POSTS HERE FROM PEOPLE "WHO WANT TO STOP THIS FASCIST
GOVERNMENT AND GET RID OF THESE CORRUPT AND TREASONOUS PSYCHOPATHS,
BUT THE CONGRESS IS INTENTIONALLY REFUSING TO IMPEACH THEM, AND CALLS
THEIR INTENTIONAL FRAUD, MERE "MISTAKES".
--
"WE KNOW" THESE WERE "NOT" MISTAKES, THEY WERE WELL PLANNED AND THERE
IS A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION AND WITNESSES TO PROVE IT.
--
WHAT AMERICANS NEED IS A "BIG LEGAL FIRM" TO REPRESENT US AGAINST THE
THOUSANDS OF U.S. ATTORNEYS WHO "WE ARE PAYING" BUT ARE REQUIRED TO
"REPRESENT THE U.S. OFFICIALS IN LAW SUITS".
--
THAT LAW FIRM IS "THE ACLU" AND THEY ARE LOCATED IN ALL 50 STATES.
READ THE BELOW LINKS AND FIND THE ACLU IN YOUR STATE AND CONTACT THEM
STATING THAT YOU WILL HELP THEM TO ORGANIZE THE PEOPLE IN THE STATE TO
FILE A:
--
CLASS ACTION-PUBLIC INTEREST-CIVIL SUIT AGAINST THE BUSH REGIME &
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, AS WELL AS SETTING UP A "DEFENSE FUND" SO THESE
ACLU ATTYS. CAN LIVE WHILE DEVOTING THEIR TIME TO THIS EFFORT WHICH
MUST BE PUT ON "A FAST TRACK".
--
WE ALSO WANT EACH STATE'S ACLU TO CONTACT EACH U.S. ATTY FOR THE
PURPOSE OF FILING "FELONY CHARGES VIA GRAND JURY INDICTMENTS AGAINST
THE SAME DEFENDANTS.
---
(READ THE LINKS BELOW)
--
NOTE: HERE IS A TYPICAL ARTICLE THAT WE, AMERICANS ARE NOW SEEING FROM
"SOME" MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND THE MEDIA, I.E. DEMANDING THAT THESE
FASCISTS "MERELY RESIGN", INSTEAD OF CALLING FOR OUTRIGHT IMPEACHMENT.
--
NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN UNLESS "YOU" TAKE A STAND THAT "YOU WILL DO
WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO RID OUR COUNTRY OF THESE FASCISTS, BY CONTACTING
THE ACLU AND HOLDING BLOCK MEETINGS TO ORGANIZE". REMEMBER THE OLD AND
TRUE ADAGE:
"YOU DESERVE THE GOVERNMENT YOU GET"!
---
Subject:7-03-07-
Olbermann: Bush, Cheney Should Resign
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/070407Y.shtml
>
---
> PLEASE EXCUSE MY CAPS, I HAVE NERVE DAMAGE TO MY ARM; I AM NOT YELLING
> AT YOU AND I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND.
> --
> THE EVENTS OF THE PAST 6 YEARS SHOULD HAVE PROVEN TO ALL AMERICANS
> THAT THE GOVERNMENT WE HAVE NOW IS A FASCIST GOVERNMENT WHICH IS HELL-
> BENT ON DESTROYING OUR NATION DUE TO THE ACTIONS OF THE CLEARLY
> PSYCHOTIC AND DELUSIONAL LEADERS, WHO HAVE "VISIONS" OF POWER,
> CONTROL, AND WEALTH OVER ALL OF THE WORLD'S PEOPLE.
> > ---
> THERE IS NOTHING ORIGINAL ABOUT THIS, I.E. OUR HISTORY BOOKS ARE
> FILLED WITH THE SAME KIND OF PSYCHOTIC LUNATICS FROM ALL OVER THE
> WORLD.
> > ---
> THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, THIS TIME IT IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA'S
> FIRST SUCH FASCIST REGIME.
> > ---
> WE SHOULD ALL KNOW NOW THAT THE EXTENT OF THIS FASCISM IS ALSO
> CONTROLLING OUR CONGRESS, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE "THE DIRECT
> REPRESENTATIVES OF ALL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE."
> > ---
> I AM POSTING TWO EARLIER THREADS OF NEWS ARTICLES WHICH ARE JUST
> RECENT ACTIONS OF OUR FASCIST GOVT. FOR "THIS YEAR"; I HAVE MANY MORE
> THAT I WAS POSTING EVER SINCE BUSH TOOK OFFICE IN 2001 AND STARTED
> SPEWING HIS INTENTIONALLY THREATENING AND PROVOKING STATEMENTS RE "THE
> AXIS OF EVIL" WHICH GOT THE WORLD'S IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.
> > ---
> THEN 9-11-01 ATTACKS TOOK PLACE WHICH WERE AS A "DIRECT CAUSE OF
> THREATS OF WAR MADE AGAINST BIN LADEN; THE TALIBAN AND THE MUSLIM
> NATIONS."
> > --
> THOSE THREATS BY THE BUSH REGIME CONTINUE DAILY, WHILE OUR CONGRESS
> CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING FOR THESE SO-CALLED "WARS ON TERROR",
> BASED ON BLATANT LIES, I.E. "THERE NEVER WAS ANY REAL WARS BECAUSE
> NEITHER AFGHANISTAN OR IRAQ HAD ANY ARMY OR EQUIPMENT IN WHICH THEY
> COULD INVADE AND ATTACK THE U.S.A.
> > --
> SO WE MUST "STOP" CALLING THESE "WAR ON TERROR" AND CALL THEM WHAT
> THEY REALLY ARE:
> > --
> ILLEGAL ATTACKS AND OCCUPATION ON SOVEREIGN NATIONS WITH MASS MURDERS
> OF THEIR INNOCENT CITIZENS, FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF "CONTROL OF THEIR
> LANDS FOR OIL/GAS" AND TO KEEP PERMANENT MILITARY BASES THERE FOR
> FUTURE SUCH ILLEGAL OCCUPATIONS.
> > --
> WE "NOW" HAVE ALL OF THE EVIDENCE NECESSARY TO TAKE THESE FASCISTS TO
> COURT RE THE ACLU, AS EXPLAINED BELOW,
> FOR VIOLATIONS OF U.S. LAWS;
> > ---
> WHILE ALSO FILING OUR COMPLAINTS AND REQUEST TO THE UNITED NATION'S
> SECURITY COUNCIL FOR REFERRAL TO THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT
> (ICC) FOR PROSECUTION OF THEIR WAR CRIMES.
> > ---
> SUBJECT: IT'S TIME TO CONTACT THE ACLU TO REPRESENT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
> > ---
> Subject: LINKS TO THE A.C.L.U. OFFICES ---


> AMERICANS NOW KNOW, THAT IN ORDER TO SAVE OUR NATION AND OUR DEMOCRACY
> WE NEED THE LEGAL HELP OF THE ACLU!
> > --

> PLEASE READ THESE LINKS THEN SEND YOUR E-MAIL LETTER TO THE ACLU "IN
> YOUR STATE" WITH A COPY TO THE N.Y. HOME OFFICE WHERE THESE CASES CAN
> BE ORGANIZED.
> > --
> EVERY DAY THAT WE WAIT TO TAKE ACTION, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING
> MURDERED AND ONLY WE CAN STOP IT.
> --
> THE U.S.A. IS CLEARLY BY DEFINITION, A "TERRORIST NATION" WHICH THE
> WORLD WOULD BE JUSTIFIED TO DECLARE WAR ON, AS IT DID WITH HITLER'S
> GERMANY.

> > --
> THE ACLU WANTS TO TAKE "ONLY" CASES THAT AFFECTS A LARGE GROUP OF

> PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIMITED MONEY AND RESOURCES.
> > --
> FORTUNATELY, THE ACLU HAS ALREADY TAKEN CASES TO THE SUPREME COURT,
> WHICH THEY WON, THAT DEAL WITH THESE ILLEGAL ACTS.


> > ---
> THIS BRINGS US TO THE POINT OF ASKING THE ACLU, "SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE
> WANT THEM TO DO FOR ALL OF US".
> > ---
> IN ORDER TO GET THE ACLU TO "TAKE OUR CASE" AGAINST THE PRESIDENT OF
> THE UNITED STATES AND HIS CABINET (DEFENDANTS) FOR PERPETRATING THE

> CRIMINAL ACTS OF CONTINUED FRAUD UNDER (U.S.CODE-TITLE 18) IN WHICH:


> > ---
> THE DEFENDANTS "KNOWINGLY AND INTENTIONALLY" MADE FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT

> THE PRESIDENT OF IRAQ IN ORDER TO MAKE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE


> (PLAINTIFFS) AND THE U.S. CONGRESS:
> > --
> BELIEVE AND FEAR THIS MAN AND HIS SOVEREIGN COUNTRY, THAT IT WOULD
> JUSTIFY AN IMMEDIATE PRE-EMPTIVE ATTACK AND OCCUPATION OF IRAQ, WHICH
> HAS CAUSED THE DEATHS OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT IRAQI

> CITIZENS AND OUR OWN U.S. TROOPS, AS WELL AS CAUSING MILLIONS OF IRAQI


> PEOPLE TO FLEE THEIR HOMES AND COUNTRY AND BECOME REFUGEES;
> > ---
> MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, WANT TO CONTINUE FUNDING THIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY,

> DEFINED AS "WAR CRIMES", BY ROBBING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OF THEIR


> TREASURY.;
> > ---
> THE OTHER DEFENDANTS IN THIS CASE, WHO ARE THE GREATER NUMBER OF ALL
> MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, INCLUDING THE DEMOCRATS, HAS PUBLICLY STATED
> "THEY REFUSE" TO HOLD THE PRESIDENT AND HIS CABINET LEGALLY
> ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS MASSIVE FRAUD, THROUGH IMPEACHMENT AND
> INDICTMENT.
> > ---
> THEREFORE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE NO ADVOCATES TO DO WHAT THE
> AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DEMANDING, I.E. "STOPPING THESE WAR CRIMES
> AND ROBBERY OF THEIR TREASURY, BY:
> > ---
> (A) SEEKING LEGAL ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH THE AMERICAN COURTS; AND
> > --
> (B) FILING PETITIONS WITH THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR REFERRAL

> OF THIS MATTER FOR PROSECUTION BY THE "INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT"
> FOR WAR CRIMES OF WHICH;


> > --
> THE PREVIOUS U.N. SECRETARY GENERAL, KOFI ANNAN, IS ON RECORD AS
> STATING THAT THE U.S. INVASION OF IRAQ VIOLATED INTERNATIONAL LAW AND
> THE U.N. CHARTER.
> > ---
> THIS IS NOW A MATTER OF "CRITICAL NATIONAL SECURITY", AS WELL AS OUR
> "CIVIL RIGHTS", BOTH OF WHICH ARE INTENTIONALLY BEING DESTROYED, AS IT
> ALWAYS IS UNDER A FASCIST GOVERNMENT, UNTIL "IT IS DESTROYED".
> > ---
> THE FACT THAT THE ACLU HAS ADDED TO IT'S STAFF OF ATTORNEYS, A FORMER

> FBI AGENT WHO SPECIALIZED IN TERRORISM SHOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.


> > ---
> THE ACLU STATES THE FOLLOWING IN A 2004 CASE WHICH IS SHOWN ON THEIR
> WEBSITE (CIVIL LIBERTIES IN TIMES OF NATIONAL CRISIS):
> > ---
> "THE ACLU HAILED THE HISTORIC RULINGS AS A STRONG REPUDIATION OF THE
> GOVT'S ARGUMENT THAT "IT'S ACTIONS" IN THE "WAR ON TERROR"
> ARE.."BEYOND THE RULE OF LAW" & "UNREVIEWABLE BY AMERICAN COURTS".
> >
> >
> >

> > --

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THIS ARTICLE CONTAINS THE "ACTUAL STATEMENTS OF JUST ONE DEMOCRAT, WHO
SITS ON THE "HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE" WHO, LIKE THE MAJORITY OF
DEMOCRATS THINK THEY WILL BE APPLAUDED FOR THEIR EFFORTS TO ATTACK THE
FASCIST BUSH REGIME'S VIOLATIONS OF "THE RULE OF LAW".
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INSTEAD, THE DEMOCRATS "PROVE TO ONE AND ALL THAT "THEY KNOW" THE
EVIDENCE AGAINST THE BUSH REGIME REQUIRES THEM TO "FILE FOR
IMPEACHMENT", WHICH THEY STATE, "THEY WILL NOT DO".
--
THERE HAVE BEEN MANY DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE PUT FORTH SUCH MEANINGLESS AND
USELESS NON-BINDING RESOLUTIONS CALLING FOR BUSH & CHENEY TO "RESIGN"
WHILE LISTING THE FACTS THAT PROVE INTENTIONAL: TREASON, FRAUD, ABUSE
& CORRUPTION
WHEN "IN FACT" THESE DEMOCRATS, LIKE THE REPUBLICANS, HAVE SUPPORTED
AND FUNDED THE BUSH REGIMES ILLEGAL ACTS, MAKING THE MAJORITY OF
CONGRESS.."IN COLLUSION WITH THE BUSH REGIME, SO THESE ILLEGAL ACTS
COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED, MAKING OUR U.S. GOVT. A WELL-ORGANIZED FASCIST
GOVT.
--
IT IS CLEAR THAT THE MANY DEMOCRATS WHO WILL BE UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN
2008 "THINK" WE ARE SO STUPID THAT WE WOULD BUY INTO THIS FRAUD OF
ATTEMPTING TO LOOK LIKE THEY ARE PROTECTING US VOTERS, WHEN IN FACT,
THESE CON-GAMES ARE EXACTLY LIKE THE LYING PROPAGANDA THAT THE BUSH
REGIME USED AND CONTINUES TO USE.
--
THIS IS EVIDENCE THAT THE ACLU CAN USE TO PROVE THAT MAJORITY OF
CONGRESS MEMBERS SHOULD BE NAMED AS "CO-CONSPIRATORS" IN THIS NATION'S
LARGEST FRAUD ON THE PEOPLE OF THE USA WHICH HAS CAUSED DEATH TO
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING OUR OWN TROOPS, WHILE ROBBING OUR
TREASURY TO DO IT.
--
PLEASE SEND THIS POST TO YOUR LOCAL ACLU OFFICE ASKING THEM TO
REPRESENT US IN A CLASS-ACTION CIVIL SUIT "NOW"! (LINKS TO YOUR LOCAL
ACLU BELOW)
--
THE ARTICLE THAT PROVES CONGRESS KNOWS THAT THE BUSH REGIME HAS
ALREADY VIOLATED THE CONSTITUTION AND OTHER LAWS, "REQUIRING
IMPEACHMENT".
--
Subject:7-05-07-
Wexler: Censure Bush Over Libby
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/070507R.shtml
>
--
--

+++++++++++


> IT'S TIME TO CONTACT THE ACLU TO REPRESENT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE
> WE NOW HAVE A FASCIST GOVT., WITH "NO ONE PROTECTING AND DEFENDING
> "THE AMERICAN PEOPLE".
> ----
> Subject: LINKS TO A.C.L.U.

> ---
> AMERICANS NOW KNOW, THAT IN ORDER TO SAVE OUR NATION AND OUR DEMOCRACY
> WE NEED THE LEGAL HELP OF THE ACLU!

> AS YOU CAN SEE AND I PERSONALLY HAVE EXPERIENCED:

> --
> THE ACLU WANTS TO TAKE "ONLY" CASES THAT AFFECTS A LARGE GROUP OF
> PEOPLE

> BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIMITED MONEY.


> ---
> THIS BRINGS US TO THE POINT OF ASKING THE ACLU,
> "SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO FOR ALL OF US".
> ---
> IN ORDER TO GET THE ACLU TO "TAKE OUR CASE" AGAINST THE PRESIDENT OF
> THE
> UNITED STATES AND HIS CABINET (DEFENDANTS) FOR

> PERPETRATING THE CRIMINAL ACT OF "CONSPIRACY AND FRAUD (U.S.CODE-TITLE


> 18) IN WHICH:
> ---
> THE DEFENDANTS "KNOWINGLY AND INTENTIONALLY" MADE
> FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT THE PRESIDENT OF IRAQ IN ORDER TO MAKE THE AMERICAN
> PEOPLE (PLAINTIFFS) AND
> THE U.S. CONGRESS:
> --
> BELIEVE AND FEAR THIS MAN AND HIS SOVEREIGN COUNTRY, THAT IT WOULD
> JUSTIFY AN IMMEDIATE PRE-EMPTIVE ATTACK AND
> OCCUPATION OF IRAQ, WHICH HAS CAUSED THE DEATHS OF HUNDREDS OF
> THOUSANDS OF
> INNOCENT IRAQI
> CITIZENS AND OUR OWN U.S. TROOPS,

> ---


> AS WELL AS CAUSING MILLIONS OF IRAQI PEOPLE TO FLEE THEIR HOMES AND
> COUNTRY AND BECOME
> REFUGEES;
> ---
> MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, WANT TO CONTINUE FUNDING THIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY,
> DEFINED AS "WAR CRIMES",

> ---

> FBI AGENT WHO SPECIALIZED IN TERRORISM.

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AS WE ALL KNOW NOW, THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME, NOT ONLY VIOLATED OUR
U.S. CONSTITUTION BUT ALL FEDERAL LAWS THAT STOOD IT IS WAY;
--
THE BUSH REGIME INTENTIONALLY REMOVED ALL U.S. ATTYS WHO WERE
DEMOCRATS AND WOULD PROSECUTE THE BUSH REGIME.
--
NO ONE HAS SHOWN US ALL HOW FAR THESE FASCISTS WOULD GO THEN THE TOP
COP, I.E. U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL, ALBERTO GONZALES, WHO'S CORRUPTION OF
THE SO-CALLED JUSTICE SYSTEM IS NOW SO CORRUPT DUE TO THE CONTROL THAT
THE U.S. ATTY. GEN. HAS OVER THE "SELECTION OF U.S. PROSECUTORS "AND"
THE NOMINATION OF JUDGES FOR BUSH.
---
THIS FULL CIRCLE OF JUDICIAL CORRUPTION IS CLEARLY SEEN IN THIS LATEST
DECISION BY REPUBLICAN JUDGES WHO DISMISSED A CRITICAL CASE THAT MANY
LAWYERS AND LAW PROFESSORS AGREED WAS A CLEAR CASE OF VIOLATION OF OUR
CONSTITUTION AND FEDERAL LAW.
---
NOTE: MANY REPUBLICANS ARE ON THE RECORD WANTING BUSH TO FIRE
GONZALES. THE REASON IS CLEAR...GONZALES HAS SHOWN HIMSELF TO BE
CORRUPT, BUT OF COURSE, BUSH WILL NOT FIRE GONZALES BECAUSE "HE KNOWS
WHERE ALL THE BUSH SKELETONS ARE BURIED AND HE HAS PERSONALLY COVERED
THEM UP.
---
THE "FACT" THAT BUSH AND GONZALES LIED THROUGH THEIR TEETH STATING
THAT "THEY WOULDN'T BE SPYING ON AMERICANS", WAS AMONG THE FIRST LIES
THESE FASCISTS TOLD US, THEN SECRETLY WENT ABOUT DOING IT AND THEN
CLAIMED, WHAT ELSE, "FOR NATIONAL SECURITY REASONS"...THEIR MANTRA FOR
"COVER-UP".
--
BECAUSE "THIS ISSUE OF SPYING IS AS GREAT OR GREATER THEN WHAT FBI
DIRECTOR, J.EDGAR HOOVER DID TO "ALL PERSONS HE WANTED TO SPY ON FOR
HIS OWN PERSONAL BENEFIT", PRESIDENTS WERE IN FEAR OF HOOVER THEREFORE
"KEPT HIM EMPLOYED".
---
THIS CORRUPTION AND EXTORTION IS EXACTLY "WHY" THE BUSH REGIME IS
SPYING ON AMERICANS, AND THESE FILES ARE BEING SENT TO "A PRIVATE
CORPORATION" WHERE THEY CAN USE THIS INFO WHEN THE BUSH REGIME LEAVES
OFFICE.
--
CLEARLY THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD BE FEARFUL BECAUSE ONCE BUSH LEAVES
OFFICE, SO WILL HIS LOYALTY TO THE REPUB PARTY, I.E. THERE IS NO
LOYALTY AMONG THIEVES".
--
NOW YOU CAN SEE WHY AMERICANS (BOTH REPUB & DEMOS) SHOULD ASK FOR THE
ACLU'S HELP BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE, I.E.
--
THE ACLU IS NOW REVIEWING IT'S OPTIONS OF WHETHER TO TAKE THIS CASE TO
THE SUPREME COURT, SOMETHING THAT WE, CITIZENS COULDN'T POSSIBLY DO
ALONE.
---
THE EVIDENCE FOR IMPEACHING THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME WAS SEEN AT THE
VERY BEGINNING OF BUSH'S REIN, YET CONGRESS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT
"ARE LAWYERS" WHO SIT ON THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES "HEARD AND READ
THIS EVIDENCE, FIRST HAND" YET DID NOTHING TO STOP IT THIS CORRUPTION.
THAT SIGNALED AN "ALL CLEAR" FOR THE PROTECTION OF THIS FASCIST
GOVERNMENT, AND THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC.
--
GO TO MY ABOVE POST RE "THREAD ON THE ACLU" AND FIND THE ONE IN YOUR
STATE AND ASK THEM TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING CASE TO THE SUPREME COURT AS
WELL AS STARTING A CLASS-ACTION CIVIL SUIT AGAINST THE FASCIST BUSH
REGIME AND CONGRESS MEMBERS WHO ARE IN COLLUSION WITH BUSH.
---
AMERICANS WE NEED TO UNITE AND ORGANIZE IN "EACH STATE" AS THE
"PLAINTIFF/VICTIMS" OF THIS TREASON, ABUSE, FRAUD, ROBBERY AND MURDER.
--
WE NEED TO CONTACT EACH ACLU OFFICE AND START A PETITION AS A
PLAINTIFF/VICTIM/TAXPAYER, WHICH QUALIFIES US AS "HAVING LEGAL
STANDING" TO FILE THESE SUITS AND ALSO APPEAL THE BELOW CASE RE
"FRIEND OF THE COURT" FOR THE ACLU'S APPEAL IN THE CURRENT DISMISSAL
CASE HERE.
--
NOTE: THIS WILL BE A HISTORICAL REVOLUTION AND ONE THAT WE WILL HAVE
TO CONTRIBUTE TO VIA A "DEFENSE FUND" TO PAY THESE ACLU ATTYS. ASK
THEM HOW WE CAN SET UP SUCH A FUND NOW!
--
Subject:2-REPUB JUDGES SAY "ACLU SPYING ON AMERICAN CASE" DISMISSED
---
Subject:7-06-07-
Court throws out spying lawsuit
--
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19632877/
>
------
Court dismisses challenge to domestic spying
3-judge panel
splits along party
******************
lines
*****
over Bush's surveillance program
----
CINCINNATI - A federal appeals court ordered the
dismissal Friday of a lawsuit challenging
---
President Bush's domestic spying program,
************************************************
saying the "plaintiffs had no standing to sue."
************************************************
The 2-1 ruling by the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel vacated
a
2006 order by a federal judge in Detroit, who
found that the post-Sept. 11
---
"warrantless surveillance"
---
aimed at uncovering terrorist activity violated
*********
constitutional rights to privacy and free speech and the separation of
powers.
---
U.S. Circuit Judge Julia Gibbons,
one of the two
***************
Republican
**********
appointees
************
who ruled against
****************
the plaintiffs, said *************
---
"they failed to show ********************
they were subject to ********************
the surveillance."
*****************
---
The dissenting judge, Democratic appointee Ronald
Gilman, believed the plaintiffs were within their rights to sue and
that it was clear to him:
---
the program violated the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act of 1978.
---
Although the Bush administration said in January the program is:
---
now overseen by a special federal intelligence court,
---
opponents said that without a court order, the president could resume
the spying outside
judicial authority at any time. The Justice Department has said the
case
is moot.
---
Case farthest to proceed
---
"The American Civil Liberties Union"
**************************************** led the lawsuit on behalf of:
---
other groups including lawyers, journalists and
scholars it says have been handicapped in doing their jobs by the
government monitoring.
---
Others have filed court challenges to the program; this case proceeded
the furthest.
---
The decision "insulates" the Bush **********
administration's warrantless
surveillance activities from judicial review and
deprives Americans of any ability to challenge the illegal
surveillance of their telephone
calls and e-mails,
---
ACLU Legal Director Steven Shapiro said in a news release.
---
The Justice Department did not immediately return
a call seeking
comment.
---
White House spokesman Tony Fratto said,
---
"We have always believed that the District Court's decision declaring
the terrorist surveillance program unconstitutional was wrongly
decided."
---?
The ACLU is reviewing its options,
**************************************
including taking its challenge to
the Supreme Court, Shapiro said.
*********************
---
If the group does not appeal, the case will be sent back to the U.S.
district judge in Michigan for dismissal.
---
'Highly sensitive in nature'
****************************
The administration had said:
---
"it sometimes needed to act without waiting for the secret Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Court, established by a
1978 law.
********
---
Bush authorized the program in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist
attacks.
---
The ACLU filed suit in January 2006,
*****************************************
a month after the program's existence
"became known publicly."
----
The government said: ---
"the case involves state secrets"
whose disclosure would "threaten national security."
---
"The information ... is highly sensitive in nature, and goes to the
heart of how the government's foreign intelligence gathering is
conducted
---
at a time when the nation is at war
---
with an enemy that has already inflicted devastating damage on the
United States by operating through a shadowy terrorist network,"? a
Justice Department brief stated.
---
2007 The Associated Press.
---

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THE ACLU WEBSITE WHICH RESPONDS TO THE TOTAL DISMISSAL OF THIS CASE,
WITH LINKS TO THE CASE ITSELF AND AUDIO OF THE ARGUMENTS.
--
NOTE:
GO TO THE HOME PAGE TO FIND YOUR STATE ACLU OFFICE AND IT'S E-MAIL
ADDRESS SO YOU CAN CONTACT THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO
HELP THEM BY ORGANIZING THE PEOPLE IN YOUR STATE TO SIGN ON TO THIS
LEGAL APPEAL AS "A PLAINTIFF/TAXPAYER/CITIZEN". AND WANT TO KNOW HOW
TO SETUP A "DEFENSE FUND" FOR A CIVIL SUIT AGAINST THE BUSH REGIME,
ETC.
---
Subject:7-06-07-ACLU RESPONDS TO COURT DISMISSAL in NSA Surveillance
Case
---
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nsaspying/30372prs20070706.html >

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THE DEMOCRATS, WHILE HOLDING ENDLESS HEARINGS ON BLATANTLY CLEAR
VIOLATIONS OF LAW, YET "REFUSING TO IMPEACH THE BUSH REGIME", NOW
FINDS ITSELF AS HATED AS THE BUSH REGIME, THUS THE DEMO RHETORIC HAS
NOW HIT THE WALL, I.E. ARE THEY ACTUALLY GOING TO GO AFTER THE
FASCISTS, OR CONTINUE TO ALLOW THEM "MORE TIME" TO JUST MAKE FOOLS OUT
OF THEM?
--
WHILE THE DEMOCRATS ARE VAGUELY TALKING ABOUT "LEGAL ACTION, I.E.
"CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS ACTION", THEY...AND "WE KNOW" THAT THE AMOUNT OF
TIME IT WILL TAKE TO GO AFTER THE REGIME, WILL "ONLY PLAY THEIR GAME"
OF "LETTING TIME GO BY UNTIL THEY ALL LEFT OFFICE", PROVING THAT "A
FASCIST U.S. GOVT. CAN EASILY BE SETUP, BECAUSE "THEY DID IT AND DID
IT WITH THE HELP OF CONGRESS".
---
BOTH THE CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS WHO ARE UP FOR RE-
ELECTION
APPARENTLY BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN "NOW ACT LIKE THEY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT
THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME, NOW THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE PROVED TO THEM,
"THEY ARE HATED AS MUCH AS BUSH AND WILL "NOT" RE-ELECT THEM IN 2008,
I.E.
--
THESE SELF-SERVING POLITICAL FASCISTS WHO HAVE BEEN IN COLLUSION WITH
BUSH AND QUICKLY SUPPLIED HIM WITH THE MULTI-BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO
ILLEGALLY ATTACK AND MURDER HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE,
IN ORDER TO ROB THESE PEOPLE OF THEIR OIL AND SETUP PERMANENT MILITARY
BASES ARE NOW PLAYING "THEIR CON-GAME ON US".
---
IF YOU WANT TO LET YOUR SITTING CONGRESSIONAL REPS KNOW "THAT YOU ARE
MUCH SMARTER THAN THEY THINK, AND YOU "PROMISE TO UNSEAT THEM IN 2008,
IF THEY DON'T START AN IMMEDIATE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS NOW", THEN SCROLL
UP TO MY "THREAD RE CONGRESS" AND SEND THEM AN E-MAIL.
--
THIS CON-GAME HAS GONE FAR ENOUGH. CONGRESS HAS "ALL THE EVIDENCE THEY
NEED NOW, TO IMPEACH AND CONVICT THE BUSH REGIME", AND CONGRESS HAS
"ONE LAST SHOT" AT DOING WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANTED FOR THE PAST
6 YEARS.
--
NOTE:
ALL THOSE STILL SITTING IN CONGRESS, WHO ARE NOW, RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT, WHO "VOTED TO ALLOW BUSH TO ILLEGALLY INVADE IRAQ",
ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE LAWYERS, LIKE HILLARY CLINTON, MUST BE
SOUNDLY REJECTED AS PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, OR YOU WILL ALLOW
"ANOTHER FASCIST REGIME CONTROL OUR GOVT.".
--
Subject:7-08-07-
--
White House to Tell Miers to Ignore Senate Subpoena
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/070807Y.shtml
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AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS ARTICLE OF WHAT PELOSI AND REID'S (TOP DEMO
CONGRESSIONAL LEADER CON-GAME IS OF TELLING THE BUSH REGIME TO "LISTEN
TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE", WHILE THEY, THEMSELVES HAVE REFUSED TO DO THE
SAME, I.E. RE IMPEACHMENT, MAKES THE DEMO PARTY AS ARROGANT AND
FASCISTS AS THE BUSH REGIME.
--
AGAIN, "THIS GAME OF FRAUD ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE" WILL ONLY END WHEN
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE "MAKE THE EFFORT" TO CONFRONT THESE LYING FASCISTS
BY LETTING THEM KNOW, "THAT YOU ARE NEITHER STUPID NOR LAZY" AND WILL
REMOVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE LIARS FROM OFFICE.
--
WHICH IS WHY WE MUST ALL CONTACT THE ACLU OFFICE IN OUR STATE AND ASK
THEM TO FILE A "CIVIL SUIT OF FRAUD" AGAINST ALL OF THEM AND ASK THAT
THE ACLU DEMAND THE STATE U.S. ATTORNEY FILE "CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS"
AGAINST THEM.
--
ORRRR, DO YOU LIKE THE FASCIST GOVT. YOU HAVE?
--
Subject:Fwd: 6-13-07-PELOSI & REID LETTER TO BUSH-RE LISTEN TO AM.
PEOPLE RE IRAQ
----
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=483
>
---
? Judiciary Chairmen Issue Subpoenas to White House
---
Pelosi and Reid Call on President to Listen to "the Will of the
American
People on Iraq"
June 13th, 2007 by Karina
---
Speaker Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid today sent the
following letter to President Bush calling on him to reconsider his
opposition to Congressional proposals that would limit the U.S.
mission in Iraq, begin the phased redeployment of U.S. forces, and
bring the war to a responsible end.
---
June 13, 2007
The President
The White House
Washington, D.C. 20500
----
Dear Mr. President:
Last November, the American people overwhelming made clear their
desire
to bring the war in Iraq to a responsible end.
---
Yet, at the start of this year, you announced a substantial escalation
of our military presence in Iraq.
---
This so-called "surge"? was clearly
at odds with past experiences in Iraq, ---
the wishes of the American people, and ---
the advice of many senior military
leaders, including
General Douglas Lute, your "war czar"? nominee.
---
Nevertheless, you proceeded to call up thousands of additional
National
Guardsmen and Reservists,
---
extend the tours of
tens of thousands of brave troops already in Iraq, and
---
plunge our forces
even deeper into Iraqi's civil war.
---
As many had foreseen, the escalation has failed to produce the
intended results.
---
The increase in U.S. forces has had
little impact in curbing the violence or fostering political
reconciliation.
---
It has not enhanced America's national security.
---
The unsettling reality is that instances of
violence against Iraqis remain high and attacks on U.S. forces have
increased.
---
In fact, the last
two months of the war were the deadliest to date
for U.S. troops.
---
Meanwhile, Iraqi's political leaders have done little to unite their
nation and diffuse sectarian tensions.
---
Recent reports indicate that the Iraqi government
is:
--
"unlikely to enact any of the legislative"
benchmarks which you endorsed in your January 10 speech.
---
While our troops and their families are required to make:
---
"greater sacrifices on behalf of the Iraqi people,"
--
Iraqi's political and military leaders are:
--
"unlikely to meet any of the standards" for measuring progress which
only a few months ago were thought not only
possible, but essential, to achieve.
---
On June 12, the former head of:
--
the US training operation in Iraq,
General Dempsey,
******************
gave an assessment of the capability of Iraqi security forces that
concluded that:
---
after years of effort and massive expenditure of
resources, Iraqi units remain uneven in their quality and reliability.
--
Congress on a bipartisan basis sent you legislation in April that:
--
"set forth a new strategy for Iraq" that responded to the wishes of
the
American people and
---
better served America's national security
*********************************************
interests.
*********
---
This legislation, which you unfortunately chose
to veto, was consistent
with the approach advocated by the bipartisan "Iraq Study Group" late
last year.
---
That strategy called for:
--
transitioning the role of U.S. forces away from
---
"policing a civil war"
---
to "missions that:
are consistent with "our strategic interests,"
***********************************************
namely:
fighting terrorism,
---
training Iraqis, and ---
protecting U.S. forces.
---
The strategy also would have:
---
begun the phased redeployment of our troops from Iraq so that Iraqis
could take responsibility for their own security.
---
In light of the additional evidence since your veto that your plan is
not working,
---
it is clear that a course correction
in Iraq is needed.
---
That is also the view of a substantial majority of the American
people.
---
Rather than respond with a "new plan" immediately,
---
Administration
officials as well as Republican congressional
leaders suggest that ---
"your flawed Iraq strategy" not be revisited until September when
General Petraeus is
scheduled to provide Congress with a progress report on Iraq.
---
The only step you have proposed in the interim is to:
---
divest your National Security Advisor of control over Iraq policy and
create a "war czar"? position, an act that has only served to create
further confusion and concerns about your plans for Iraq. ---
The American people cannot and should not
**************************************************
have to wait until later this year for changes in
****************************************************
your flawed Iraq policy.
*************************
There is an obligation to act now.
*************************************
---
That is why:
"we intend to again send you legislation"
that would:
---
limit the U.S. mission in Iraq,
---
begin the phased redeployment of U.S. forces,
---
and bring the war to a responsible end.
---
These are goals consistent with both the "national security of the
United States" and
******************************************
"the will of the American people."
***********************************
---
We respectfully request that you reconsider your
previous opposition to proposals that would accomplish these goals,
and
---
work with us to give our troops a "strategy worthy of their
sacrifice."
---
We look forward to discussing these issues with you when we meet at
the White House later today to discuss stability in the Middle East.
---
Thank you for your attention to our concerns.
---
Sincerely,
--
Harry Reid
Majority Leader
--
Nancy Pelosi
Speaker
---
This entry was posted on NANCY PELOSI'S (SPEAKER
OF THE HOUSE)-WEBSITE
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AS THE OLD ADAGE GOES: "THE FIRST VICTIM OF WAR IS "THE TRUTH".
--
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE FASCIST BUSH REGIMES TAKE OVER OF OUR
GOVT...WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO AND A WELL-ORGANIZED PROPAGANDA PROGRAM
WAS PUT IN PLACE THAT WOULD MAKE HITLER JEALOUS.
---
THAT WAS OVER 6 YEARS AGO, AND CONGRESS IS STILL ALLOWING THIS FASCIST
GOVT. TO EXIST.
--
WITH TWO ILLEGAL OCCUPATIONS AND MURDEROUS ACTS ARE TAKING PLACE "BY
OUR G.I.S WHO ARE "FOLLOWING ORDERS", YET UNDER THE NUREMBURG TRIALS,
WILL "NOT" BE A DEFENSE UNDER A CHARGE OF "WAR CRIMES"; THE BUSH
REGIME HAS REFUSED TO ALLOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HEAR "DIRECTLY FROM
OUR G.I.'S WHO ARE FIGHTING AND DYING IN THESE WARS".
--
HERE IS AN ARTICLE IN WHICH SEVERAL G.I.'S HAVE TOLD THE MEDIA HOW
SCREWED UP THE "BUSH SURGE PLAN" IS, WITH IRAQI PEOPLE ASKING "WHY IS
THE U.S. MILITARY KILLING US?"
--
I HAVE YET TO SEE ONE ARTICLE FROM ANY MEDIA THAT HAS ASKED "ANY
MILITARY GENERAL, MUCH LESS BUSH, "WHAT DOES AN AL-QAEDA TERRORIST
LOOK LIKE, THAT YOU SAY IS "IN IRAQ & AFGHANISTAN" THAT OUR SOLDIERS
ARE SUPPOSED TO KILL?
--
YET, FOR 6 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN DEAFENED BY THIS BUSH BULLSHIT. THE FACT
IS, ACCORDING TO ONE GENERAL, THE AL-QAEDA MAKES UP ONLY 1% OF THE
FIGHTERS IN IRAQ.
--
BUT, THE FASCISTS KEEP TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT IF WE PULL OUT
OF IRAQ, AL-QAEDA "WILL FOLLOW US HOME".
--
ONLY THE BIGGEST MORONS AND BLOOD-THIRSTY OLD G.I.S WHO THINK THEIR
SPEWINGS MAKE THEM "MACHO" ARE FILLING OUR AIR-WAVES WITH THIS B.S.,
PROVING THAT THE FASCIST'S PROPAGANDA DOES WORK ON THOSE WHO HAVE AN
INTELLIGENCE LEVEL THE SIZE OF THEIR SHOES.
---
THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME IS NOW BEING CAUGHT BY THEIR OWN BUBBLE-HEAD
REPUB ROBOTS WHO HAVE BEEN MOUTHING THIS SAME MANTRA, ONLY TO FIND OUT
FROM THEIR VOTERS AT HOME, OVER THE JULY 4TH RECESS, THAT THEY ARE IN
DEEP CRAP AND WILL BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE DUE TO THEIR CONSTANT LYING.
--
THE DEMOS ARE JUST AS FED UP WITH THEIR PARTY WHICH HAS TOTALLY
IGNORED THEM RE TAKING ACTION AND HOLDING THE FASCISTS ACCOUNTABLE VIA
IMPEACHMENT.
--
ALL IN ALL, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE FINALLY WAKING UP "TO THE TRUTH"
AND MANY ARE LEAVING THESE SO-CALLED "2-PARTIES", WHICH ARE
ACTUALLY..JUST ONE, PLAYING THE BIGGEST CON-GAME IN U.S.A. HISTORY ON
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND RE-REGISTERING AS "INDEPENDENTS".
--
IT IS VERY NOTABLE THAT THERE IS A "HUGE MASS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
BLINDLY FOLLOWING ONE OF THE WORST CON-ARTISTS, SIMPLY BECAUSE...SHE
IS A WOMAN.
--
THAT'S RIGHT, THESE MASSES OF WOMEN THINK THAT SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN
LOCKED OUT OF BEING A PRESIDENT OF THE USA, THEY FINALLY HAVE "A
CHANCE" TO GET "ONE" ELECTED.
--
AGAIN, IT JUST PROVES THAT STUPIDITY IS NOT A GENDER THING, BUT AN
"EGO" THING.
--
IN ORDER FOR THESE MASSES OF WOMEN TO SUPPORT AND VOTE FOR HILLARY
CLINTON, THEY HAVE TO DECIDE "NOT TO REMEMBER":
--
HILLARY CLINTON IS A LAWYER, AND CLEARLY "KNEW" THAT:
--
(1) VOTING TO LET BUSH ATTACK IRAQ, WAS IN FULL VIOLATION OF OUR
CONSTITUTION AND HER OATH OF OFFICE, I.E. "TO UPHOLD ALL TREATIES, OF
WHICH THE U.N. CHARTER, WOULD BE VIOLATED;
--
(2) VOTED FOR THE MANY ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS THAT THE BUSH
REGIME PUSHED AT CONGRESS, THAT TOOK OUR CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS
AWAY, AND ALLOWED THEM TO KIDNAP AND TORTURE "SUSPECTED TERRORISTS",
OF WHICH 99.9% WERE NOT GUILTY.
--
(3) HILLARY HAS BEEN TOTALLY SILENT ON HER HUSBAND'S PASSAGE OF TWO OF
THE MOST DEVASTATING LAWS THAT HAS CAUSED MILLIONS OF AMERICANS TO
LOSE THEIR JOBS, I.E. NAFTA, AND THEN THRU HIS SO-CALLED "WELFARE
REFORM ACT", DENIED THESE LAID-OFF WORKERS, WHO WERE PUSHED INTO
POVERTY, "NOT TO GET THE NEEDED HELP THEY HAD BEEN PAYING FOR, WHEN
THEY WERE EMPLOYED, I.E. FOOD STAMPS AND MEDICAID.
--
BUT, OF COURSE, A WOMAN WHO WILL CONSTANTLY GO BACK TO A MAN WHO
SLEEPS WITH ANYONE BUT HER AND MAKES HER LOOK LIKE THE FOOL SHE IS,
WILL CLEARLY LET, OH BILLY, RUN THE OVAL OFFICE, JUST AS CHENEY HAS
BEEN WITH THE MORONIC BUSH, WHO NEEDS ONLY EGO-STROKES SO HE CAN "WALK
LIKE A MAN".
--
AS A WOMAN, I CAN TELL YOU FROM "MY BRAIN", IF THE WOMEN IN THIS
NATION ARE SO STUPID NOT TO KNOW THAT "THEY ARE BEING USED, AS GOOD AS
ANY CON-MAN LOSER, THEN THEY DESERVE TO BE MADE AS BIG A FOOL AS
HILLARY HAS BEEN.
--
THIS WILL BE USED TO PROVE TO ALL THOSE MEN WHO HATE WOMEN, THAT WOMEN
ARE STUPID BECAUSE THEY WILL BLINDLY FOLLOW A CON-WOMAN, AS WELL AS A
CON-MAN.
--
A WOMAN "WILL" BECOME A PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A. BUT DAMNED IT WOMEN,
GET ONE WHO DOESN'T COME WITH "OBVIOUS BAGGAGE OF HYPOCRISY AND CON-
GAMES, NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT SHE KNOWS EXACTLY HOW TO "PLAY THE
GAME".
--
NOW, READ WHAT THE TROOPS ARE SAYING ABOUT THIS IRAQ WAR, WHICH THE
HILLARIES HAS GOT US INTO.
--
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-outpost8jul08,0,1273234.story?coll=la-home-center
>
---
>From the Los Angeles Times
---
THE CONFLICT IN IRAQ: U.S. TROOPS CLOSER, YET SO FAR
Iraq outposts plan may be flawed
---
Some troops say the shift of forces to Baghdad neighborhoods is not
achieving its goal: to increase street patrols and build trust.
---
By Julian E. Barnes
Times Staff Writer
July 8, 2007
---
BAGHDAD ? The neighborhood outposts that the U.S. military launched
with great fanfare in Baghdad early this year were supposed to put
more American patrols on the streets and make residents feel safer.
---
But some soldiers stationed at the posts and Iraqis who live nearby
say they are doing the opposite.
---
The outposts, along with joint U.S.-Iraqi security stations, form a
cornerstone of the current Iraq strategy.
---
Following a classic counterinsurgency tenet, military planners are
trying to take U.S. forces out of their distant, sprawling military
bases and into the day-to-day lives of Iraqis.
---
Although senior U.S. commanders and mid-level officers say they
believe the bases are starting to work, many soldiers stationed at the
outposts are doubtful, arguing that the burden of protecting the bases
means they spend less time on the streets.
---
"They say we are spending more time 'in sector,' which we are doing ?
we live here," said Spc. Tyrone Richardson, 24, a member of Charlie
Company, 1st Battalion, 8th Cavalry, that operates in the east Baghdad
neighborhood of Ubaidi, outside Sadr City.
---
"But we aren't spending the time patrolling."
---
Iraqis who live nearby say they feel less safe now, because many of
the bases have quickly become magnets for rocket and mortar attacks.
---
When attacks miss the troops, they often hit Iraqi civilians.
---
For some, the risk of rocket attacks might be worth it if the
Americans were driving away Shiite Muslim militias that many say act
as death squads.
---
But some junior soldiers say that Al Mahdi militiamen loyal to anti-
U.S. Shiite cleric Muqtada Sadr are able to conduct more "patrols" of
the area than can the U.S. Army.
---
"The Mahdi army goes around to the houses more than we do," said Pfc.
John Evans, 21, a member of 1-8 Cavalry's Alpha Company.
---
When advocates of the current troop buildup pushed the U.S. to more
aggressively adopt counterinsurgency tactics, their main criticism was
directed at the sprawling bases where troops were stationed.
---
Moving soldiers to smaller bases inside Baghdad, according to the
counterinsurgency experts, would allow them to spend more time
interacting with the population. ---
Regular contact with U.S. troops would make people feel safer, the
main mission of counterinsurgency operations.
---
In practice, however, the outpost strategy has a key flaw:
---
As many as half of the soldiers there at any one time are dedicated to
protecting the outpost.
---
"In my tactical opinion, the combat outpost hasn't worked," said one
junior officer stationed in east Baghdad.
---
"It's not a bad idea, but we are doing it wrong.
---
We have a bigger presence but we have less boots on the ground.
---
You only have one platoon that can maneuver tactically at a time."
---
Many of the soldiers interviewed asked to speak anonymously because
senior officers disapprove of noncommissioned officers and junior
officers questioning military strategy.
---
Many of the large bases outside the city are protected by support
soldiers or security units not available for the outposts.
---
Before the outposts were created, some companies maintained a constant
presence on the streets, with each of their platoons doing two eight-
hour patrols a day.
---
"Before, we would do two patrols a day, of six to eight hours a day.
---
There was almost always a patrol on the street.
---
Now we patrol just 12 times in a month," an experienced
noncommissioned officer said.
---
"That's not a lot of interaction with the people.
---
And it's problematic if the intent of this strategy is to interact
with locals."
---
As a result of the decrease in the number of patrols, some officers
say, they are not even able to keep militia elements out of the
neighborhoods immediately surrounding the outposts.
---
"I just know it's not much different than it was seven months ago,"
said one junior officer in east Baghdad.
---
"We are retaking the same ground every day."
---
David Kilcullen, the senior counterinsurgency advisor for the U.S.
military command in Iraq, said not all the outposts were being used
correctly.
---
The outposts, he said, should not be mini-camps but rather a patrol
base used for breaks between walking the neighborhood.
---
"You should not think of it as a nest where you retreat to and hunker
down in," said Kilcullen, a lieutenant colonel in the Australian army
reserves.
---
On balance, he said, the concept is working and is helping to protect
Iraqi neighborhoods.
---
"We are covering an area continuously rather than just visiting it,"
Kilcullen said.
---
"If you do not provide continuous coverage, that creates opportunities
for insurgents to come in and kill the population."
--
Still, other problems remain.
---
Although one purpose of the outposts is to allow Iraqis to walk up to
Americans and give them tips, the little bases are generally imposing
structures ringed by machine-gun nests and high concrete walls.
---
1st Lt. Luis Marin, 31, Charlie Company's executive officer,
acknowledges that the need to put many of the soldiers on guard duty
and erect high walls around the outposts presents challenges. But he
says it is unavoidable.
---
"The No. 1 priority has to be to protect the outpost, and you have to
use soldiers for force protection," he said.
--
"It almost looks like we are pushing people away, and that is not what
we want to do."
---
There is no doubt the outposts face threats.
---
When what GIs ironically call "Happy Hour" begins each afternoon in
east Baghdad, the soldiers of the 1-8 Cavalry seek cover in a concrete
building from the rocket and mortar fire from Shiite militias.
---
Because the rockets are not accurate, after each attack soldiers check
to see whether any residents have been hurt.
---
Charlie Company has been delivering fuel and water to a man who was
seriously injured in an attack.
---
After a recent visit to the injured man, Sgt. 1st Class Alberto
Gordillo, 31, was confronted by another resident who lived near the
site from which militants were firing rockets at the post.
---
"Why are you shooting at my house? Why shoot at us?
---
We are not shooting at you," the man said.
---
Gordillo tried to calm him, and explain what had happened.
---
"If they shoot mortar rounds at us, if we positively ID them, we will
shoot back.
---
If we don't, they won't stop," he said.
---
"But we are not aiming at your house."
---
In some Sunni neighborhoods in west Baghdad, such as Ghazaliya, some
residents who were initially excited about the outposts and joint
security stations have grown disgruntled.
---
They believe the Americans are doing too little to stop attacks by
Shiite militias and are intent on targeting only Sunni insurgents.
---
"The Americans won't come out to help unless they have orders," said
Abdul Rahman, 29, a chemist.
---
"They don't prevent the Mahdi army from attacking us."
---
In Shiite neighborhoods, residents say the opposite, arguing that the
outposts are targeting Shiite militias, prompting militants to strike
back.
---
"Since they started firing mortar rounds at the outpost, it has become
very chaotic," said Ali Bahadli, a clothing salesman in his 20s who
lives near the U.S. outpost in the Baladiyat neighborhood of east
Baghdad.
---
"When the Americans go out, I say, 'Here comes trouble.'
---
"Some hate the Americans for the mortars.
---
Others hate the Mahdi army," he said.
---
"I blame the Americans. These mortars start when they go out and
arrest someone."
---
Lt. Col. Jeffrey Sauer, the commander of the 1-8 Cavalry, said the
benefit of the troops' presence is seen in the increased numbers of
warnings of possible roadside bombs and information about suspected
insurgents that is being called in to the tip lines.
---
"Six months ago, my ability to gain intelligence in the neighborhoods
was very minimal," Sauer said.
---
Now, based on "information provided to my soldiers on patrol,
information through the tips line," he said, "I have between 10 and 20
good pieces of information a day.
---
That is a significant difference."
---
To some of the soldiers, however, the quality of the intelligence
seems thin.
--
They say many of the tips are actually traps aimed at hitting them
with bombs as they leave the post to check out the information.
---
Soldiers who defend the use of the outposts say their chief advantage
is cutting down the time it takes to help patrols that have been hit
in roadside bombings.
--
"The theory was to get us more hands-on with the people, more face
time, and reduce our response time.
---
That has been beneficial ? when the unit is hit, we can respond
quickly," said Sgt. Scott Snyder, 36, of Charlie Company.
--
"But as far as face time, we still get the same amount."
--
julian...@latimes.com
--
Times staff writer Wail Alhafith contributed to this report.
Copyright 2007 Los Angeles Times

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LEG

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OF COURSE OUR OH SO PATRIOTIC U.S. MEDIA WOULDN'T DARE TELL US TO MAKE
THIS COMPARISON...SO I WILL.
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Subject:7-09-07-THE FASCIST U.S. GOVT. CAN BE COMPARED TO ARGENTIANS
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/070907H.shtml
>
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LEG

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Jul 11, 2007, 2:59:17 PM7/11/07
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LEG wrote:
> WAKE UP AMERICANS TO THE FACT "YOU HAVE A GREEDING & CORRUPT FASCIST
> GOVERNMENT."
> --
> THE "ENTIRE REASON" FOR THE MASS MURDER AND OCCUPATION OF IRAQ WAS FOR
> IT'S OIL AND TO STAY THERE SO THEY COULD ATTACK THE OTHER MIDDLE EAST
> COUNTRIES WHICH HAVE OIL OR WHO WOULD TRY TO FORCE THE U.S. OUT OF
> THEIR COUNTRIES.
> --
> YET CONTINUALLY OUR CONGRESS AND THE BUSH REGIME HAS BEEN LYING TO US,
> I.E. THE BUSH REGIME KEEP TELLING US "WE DIDN'T INVADE IRAQ FOR THEIR
> OIL, WHILE THEY HAVE FORCED THEIR "OIL LAW" ON THE SO-CALLED IRAQI
> GOVERNMENT WHICH WILL GIVE 75% OF THEIR OIL TO HUGE OIL CORPS FOR 30
> YEARS;
> --
> AND BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICAN CONGRESS OFFICIALS TELL US, "IRAQIS
> ARE "NOT" HELPING US CONTROL THE VIOLENCE IN THEIR COUNTRY, WHEN "THE
> TRUTH IS" THE IRAQIS ARE FIGHTING TO HOLD ON TO THE "ONLY RESOURCE"
> THEY HAVE...OIL!
> --
> THIS OUTRAGEOUS AND ILLEGAL ACT IS A VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAWS
> AND OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION RE THE U.N. CHARTER WHICH BOTH THE U.S. AND
> IRAQ ARE MEMBERS.
> --
> THESE ARE BLATANT FASCIST'S ACTIONS AND THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN STOP
> THIS IS, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE..."YOU AND ME"!
> ---
> THIS IS "WHY" CONGRESS, I.E. THE DEMOCRATS HAVE REFUSED TO IMPEACH
> BUSH & CHENEY, I.E. OUR OWN CONGRESS IS IN COLLUSION WITH BUSH TO
> COMMIT THESE MURDERS OF THE IRAQ PEOPLE; ROB OUR U.S. TREASURY TO PAY
> FOR THIS HUGE MILITARY DESTRUCTION AND CAUSE THE DEATHS OF NEARLY
> 4,000 OF OUR SONS & DAUGHTERS WHO "THOUGHT" THEY WERE FIGHTING TO
> "PROTECT OUR NATION", WHEN IN REALITY, THEY WERE ACCURATELY SEEN AS
> THE "TOOLS FOR TERRORISM".
> ---
> WE "MUST" CONTACT OUR LOCAL ACLU OFFICES (SEE MY THREAD ON THE ACLU)
> TO FILE A "CIVIL LAWSUIT AGAINST ALL OF THEM FOR THIS FRAUD;
> OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE; AND INTENTIONAL DEATH, ETC. WHILE THE ACLU
> ALSO REPRESENTS US IN DEMANDING "CRIMINAL CHARGES" AGAINST THEM VIA
> EACH STATES "U.S. ATTORNEYS".
> ---
> HERE IS THE LATEST ARTICLE PROVING THAT THE IRAQIS HAVE CONTACTED
> CONGRESS ABOUT THE FORCE BEING USED BY BUSH TO GET THIS "OIL LAW
> PASSED OR BE KILLED".
> ---
> AMERICANS HAVE "GOT TO STOP BEING LAZY AND STUPID AND GET ORGANIZED IN
> "EACH STATE" AND GET THIS INFO OUT TO THE PEOPLE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE
> SO-CALLED AMERICAN FREE PRESS IS ANYTHING BUT FREE.
> ---
> ASK YOURSELF..WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD "ANYTHING" ABOUT THE
> STATUS OF "IRAQI'S OIL", OTHER THAN A VAGUE REFERENCE TO THE IRAQI'S
> "NEEDING TO PASS THE "IRAQI OIL LAW"?
> ---
> TAKE ACTION TODAY..CONTACT THE ACLU IN YOUR STATE BY GOING TO MY POST
> IN THIS THREAD.
> --
> Subject:6-09-07-BUSH & CONGRESS DEMANDING IRAQ'S OIL-& REFUSE TO TELL
> AMERICANS BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL AND FASCIST.
> ---
> http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/060907A.shtml
> >
> ---
+++++++
THE FASCIST U.S. GOVT. (PRES.& CONGRESS) HAS PROVEN "JUST HOW FASCIST
IT IS WHEN IT COMES TO LYING ABOUT "THEIR GREAT MORAL & RELIGIOUS
REASONS TO SAVE THE POOR PEOPLE".....IT IS BY ILLEGALLY AND
FRAUDULENTLY DECEIVING "THE PEOPLE" TO BELIEVE IN THEIR "INTENTIONAL
MURDERS; INVASIONS; AND OCCUPATIONS OF OTHER COUNTRIES IN ORDER TO
"STEAL THEIR LAND AND OIL".
---
AND THAT IS "WHY CONGRESS REFUSES TO IMPEACH BUSH & CHENEY, I.E.
CONGRESS KNEW ALL ABOUT THIS AND WORKED IN COLLUSION TO ROB THE U.S.
TREASURY TO PAY FOR THESE WAR CRIMES, INCLUDING THE KILLING OF OUR
TROOPS AND NOW SETTING THE U.S.A. UP AS "THE WORLD'S MOST FEARED
"TERRORIST" WHICH ALL NATIONS ARE NOW PLANNING TO DESTROY, LIKE WE ALL
DID TO HITLER AND GERMANY.
---
IF AMERICANS ARE TOO STUPID AND LAZY TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THIS
FASCISM, THEN YOU DESERVE THE HELL WE ARE IN FOR.
--
CONTACT YOUR LOCAL ACLU AND ASK FOR THEIR HELP TO SUE OUR GOVT. USING
THE EVIDENCE I HAVE POSTED HERE, WHICH ARE VIOLATIONS OF TITLE 18-
FRAUD & CONSPIRACY BY GOVT. ON THE CITIZENS OF THE U.S. IN ORDER TO
INFLUENCE FOREIGN POLICY, ETC.
--
AS YOU WILL READ, THE BUSH REGIME STICK PAUL BREMER IN IRAQ TO "DRAFT
THE IRAQ OIL LAWS" THAT BUSH'S PUPPET IRAQ GOVT. PROSTITUTES WERE TO
USE TO LET THE U.S. STEAL THE OIL.
--
THE IRAQIS ARE "NOT" STUPID..THEY REALIZED THIS AND PROTESTED, AND ARE
NOW FIGHTING THE U.S. TROOPS & ANYONE ELSE WHO IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE
U.S. TO GET THEM OUT OF IRAQ.
--
I.E. THE IRAQIS "HAVE A RIGHT TO KILL THE TERRORISTS WHO ARE KILLING
THEM FOR THEIR OIL"...AND THEY ARE...OUR CHILDREN, HUSBANDS AND WIVES.
DO YOU GET IT NOW? HOW PATRIOTIC DO YOU THINK BUSH & CONGRESS IS NOW?
---
Subject:7-10-07-"Iraqi's Oil" Should Stay in Public Hands
---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071007C.shtml
>
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Rico

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Jul 13, 2007, 4:50:10 PM7/13/07
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THE "EVIDENCE" APPEARS SOLID THAT THE IRAQIS, THEMSELVES ARE KILLING
U.S. TROOPS BECAUSE THE BUSH REGIME IS THREATENING THEM, VIA DEATH,
"TO SIGN THIS IRAQI OIL LAW" IN WHICH HUGE OIL CORPS WILL "ILLEGALLY
TAKE ALL UNDRILLED IRAQI OIL RESERVES (SEE OTHER POSTS) AND...WILL
ONLY PAY TINY AMOUNT IN OIL ROYALTY TAXES TO IRAQIS.
--
Subject:7-11-07-IRAQ OIL-Kurds Speak Out Against Key Oil Law
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6772331,00.html
>
--

Rico

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Jul 20, 2007, 3:16:35 PM7/20/07
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YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A LAWYER TO "KNOW" THAT THE BUSH REGIME HAS
COMMITTED SOME OF THE WORST CRIMES IN THIS NATION'S HISTORY, WHILE THE
PEOPLE WHO "HAVE" THE POWER AND LAW AT THEIR DISPOSAL, IS BLATANTLY
REFUSING TO HOLD THE BUSH REGIME ACCOUNTABLE.
--
Subject: 7-19-07- CONGRESS'S "DOG & PONY SHOW"-ANOTHER CON-GAME
---
AFTER 6 1/2 YEARS OF THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME COMMITTING THOUSANDS OF
"INTENTIONAL" ILLEGAL & UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTS AND
---
THEN TRYING TO COVER THEM UP WHEN THEY ARE EXPOSED BY FRAUDULENTLY
CLAIMING "EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE";
--
THE DEMOCRATS WHO NOW HAVE CONTROL OF BOTH HOUSES, ESPECIALLY THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEES, WHICH COMMITTEES CONTAIN "MANY CONGRESSMEN/WOMEN
WHO WERE/ARE ATTORNEYS & JUDGES";
WHO CLEARLY KNOW THE LAW AND HAVE THE "LEGAL & CONSTITUTIONAL
AUTHORITY" TO DEMAND AND RECEIVE THE TESTIMONY AND DOCUMENTS REGARDING
EVERYTHING THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH DOES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JUST A FEW
"INTERNAL" AREAS, IS "MANDATED BY LAW" AND IF CONGRESS DOES NOT
INVESTIGATE THESE ILLEGAL ACTS, CONGRESS CAN BE HELD LEGALLY LIABLE RE
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AND FRAUD.
---
HERE IS THE LINK TO THE HOUSE JUDICIARY WHICH LISTS ALL THE CASES THEY
ARE DEALING WITH NOW RE "ADMINISTRATION". YOU CAN SEND AN E-MAIL TO
THIS COMMITTEE TELLING THEM THAT YOU ARE NOT A MORON AND THAT YOU,
LIKE THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS "WANT BUSH & CHENEY IMPEACHED OR YOU
WILL MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT RE-ELECTED.)
---
Subject:Administration Oversight :: Current and Past Investigations ::
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
----
http://oversight.house.gov/investigations.asp?Issue=Administration+Oversight
---
THE DEMOCRATS "KNOWING" THAT THE BUSH REGIME HAS CONTINUALLY REFUSED
TO TURN OVER DOCUMENTS AND REFUSED TO ALLOW OTHER GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES
TO TESTIFY,
--
HAS CLEARLY "AND IN COLLUSION WITH THE BUSH REGIME", CONTINUED TO PLAY
A CON-GAME ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY THREATENING THE BUSH REGIME WITH:
--
(1) "REQUESTS" FOR DOCUMENTS & TESTIMONY AND WHEN BUSH REFUSED,
---
(2) THE DEMOS THEN "SERVE THE WHITE HOUSE WITH SUBPOENEAS "DEMANDING"
THAT THEY PRODUCE" THE DOCUMENTS/WITNESSES OR THEY COULD BE HELD "IN
CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS" WHICH ACTION (SUBPOENEAS) TAKES MORE WEEKS OR
MONTHS.
--
TO WHICH, BUSH AND HIS REGIME, AGAIN ARROGANTLY REFUSE TO COMPLY, THEN
--
(3) THE DEMOS THREATENED TO SERVE "SUBPOENAS" RE "CONTEMPT OF
CONGRESS" ON THE WHITE HOUSE
WHICH REQUIRES THE BUSH REGIME TO APPEAR IN COURT, FOR REFUSAL TO OBEY
THEIR SUPOENEAS,
---
AND THAT IS WHERE ALL OF THESE "OVERSITE ACTIONS ARE NOW", I.E. THE
DEMOS DECIDING IF THEY WILL TAKE THE BUSH REGIME TO COURT.
--
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS BEHAVIOR OF THE DEMOCRATS, I.E. THEY ARE ACTING
LIKE MORONS WHO DIDN'T REALIZE THAT "THE BUSH REGIME NEEDS SLAPPED
DOWN IMMEDIATELY BY SUBPOENING THE BUSH REGIME ON
---
"EVERY ACT OF REFUSAL TO OBEY THE LAW/CONSTITUTION BECAUSE BUSH AND
HIS PROSTITUTE LAWYERS, HAVE MADE IT A "CLEAR PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR TO
DEFY THE CONGRESSIONAL JUDICIAL COMMITTEES AND "THE RULE OF LAW".
---
HERE ARE 3 ARTICLES SHOWING THE HOUSE JUDICIARY'S OVERSITE COMMITTEE
IS JUST PLAYING GAMES "WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE" TO MAKE THEM "THINK"
THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING, WHEN THEY CLEARLY HAVE "NO
INTENTION" OF GETTING THESE DOCUMENTS/PERSONS BEFORE THEM.
--
IF THE DEMOS ACTUALLY WANTED TO GET THE "TRUTH" OUT OF THE BUSH
REGIME, THEY WOULD HAVE SUBPOENED THE BUSH REGIME RIGHT FROM THE
START, NOT MONTHS LATER, I.E. THESE ARE "INTENTIONAL DELAYS" BY THE
DEMOS TO JUST RUN OUT THE CLOCK SO THE FASCIST BUSH REGIME CAN
CONTINUE THEIR CRIMINAL ACTS, UNTIL THE 2008 ELECTIONS ARE OVER.
----
NOTE: THERE ARE "STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS" (LAWS SET OF A PERIOD OF
TIME)
IN WHICH THE DEMOS "MUST ACT" OR THEY CANNOT FILE ANY COMPLAINTS WITH
THE COURT.
----
NOTE: THERE STILL HASN'T BEEN ANY INDICTMENTS AGAINST THE BUSH
WHITEHOUSE OFFICIALS WHO ILLEGALLY EXPOSED THE NAME OF THE CIA AGENT
(VALERIE PLAME-WILSON) AND...THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR BLATANTLY TOLD US
THAT "HIS INVESTIGATION" WOULD "NOT" DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE, BUT ONLY
PROSECUTE LIBBY FOR LYING TO THE FBI AND CONGRESS.
---
THIS ELIMINATION OF THE "REAL ISSUE" OF THE INTENTIONAL OUTING OF A
CIA AGENT BY LIBBY AND OTHERS WAS A "WELL-ORGANIZED COVERUP; FRAUD;
AND OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
--
THE FACT THAT CHENEY WAS BEHIND THIS FELONY AND THAT BUSH COMMUTED
LIBBY'S SENTENCE, MAKES CLEAR THAT THE BUSH REGIME, IN COLLUSION WITH
CONGRESS, ARE CRIMINALS AND FASCISTS.
---
Subject:7-19-07-Democrats Move Toward Contempt Against Bolten
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072007J.shtml
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