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Re: Sunshine speeded 1940s Swiss glacier melt: scientists

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Lamont Cranston

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Dec 15, 2009, 4:08:55 PM12/15/09
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> GENEVA — A surge in sunshine more than 60 years ago helped Swiss
> mountain glaciers melt faster than today, even though warmer average
> temperatures are being recorded now, Swiss researchers said Monday.

ROTFLMAO!

Tom P

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Dec 15, 2009, 7:07:29 PM12/15/09
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Lamont Cranston wrote:
> "First Post" <last...@LyingLeftistsare.invalid> wrote in message
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>> GENEVA � A surge in sunshine more than 60 years ago helped Swiss

>> mountain glaciers melt faster than today, even though warmer average
>> temperatures are being recorded now, Swiss researchers said Monday.
>
> ROTFLMAO!
"However, the ETHZ scientists said they also found that
"temperature-based opposing mechanisms" came into play about 30 years
ago and have been sustained."

So both sunshine AND global warming melt glaciers. How sustained was the
surge in sunshine?

T.

lab~rat >:-)

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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:45:51 -0600, First Post
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>GENEVA ÔøΩ A surge in sunshine

LOL That sounds like it could be a lyric from a Pink Floyd song or
something...
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lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

lab~rat >:-)

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>Lamont Cranston wrote:
>> "First Post" <last...@LyingLeftistsare.invalid> wrote in message
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>>> GENEVA ÔøΩ A surge in sunshine more than 60 years ago helped Swiss


>>> mountain glaciers melt faster than today, even though warmer average
>>> temperatures are being recorded now, Swiss researchers said Monday.
>>
>> ROTFLMAO!
>"However, the ETHZ scientists said they also found that
>"temperature-based opposing mechanisms" came into play about 30 years
>ago and have been sustained."
>
>So both sunshine AND global warming melt glaciers. How sustained was the
>surge in sunshine?

In that case, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibility of
installing a sunshine surge protector on planet Earth...

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lab~rat >:-)

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>In article <vvrhi5t342td382ah...@4ax.com>,

>Or stop burning coal and oil that produce the soot. And the carbon dioxide.

And plug up the volcanoes. And only allow living creatures to breath
every other week.

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lab~rat >:-)

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>In article <eheki5h02tidd3jnv...@4ax.com>,


> "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
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>> >In article <vvrhi5t342td382ah...@4ax.com>,
>> > "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:07:29 -0600, Tom P <wero...@freent.dd> puked:
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>> >> >Lamont Cranston wrote:
>> >> >> "First Post" <last...@LyingLeftistsare.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:gppfi59bdrpvbles0...@4ax.com

>> >> >>> GENEVA Ð A surge in sunshine more than 60 years ago helped Swiss


>> >> >>> mountain glaciers melt faster than today, even though warmer average
>> >> >>> temperatures are being recorded now, Swiss researchers said Monday.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ROTFLMAO!
>> >> >"However, the ETHZ scientists said they also found that
>> >> >"temperature-based opposing mechanisms" came into play about 30 years
>> >> >ago and have been sustained."
>> >> >
>> >> >So both sunshine AND global warming melt glaciers. How sustained was the
>> >> >surge in sunshine?
>> >>
>> >> In that case, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibility of
>> >> installing a sunshine surge protector on planet Earth...
>> >
>> >Or stop burning coal and oil that produce the soot. And the carbon dioxide.
>>
>> And plug up the volcanoes. And only allow living creatures to breath
>> every other week.
>

>If volcanoes have always been the cause, why the sudden change in glaciers?

I'm not saying it's the only cause. I'm saying it's one of the
causes. After the Mt. Pinatubo eruption, the globe cooled 3 degrees
for a year. So you can look at them as kind of a cure/solution.

alanm...@yahoo.com

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On Dec 15, 11:45 am, First Post <last_p...@LyingLeftistsare.invalid>
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> GENEVA — A surge in sunshine more than 60 years ago helped Swiss

> mountain glaciers melt faster than today, even though warmer average
> temperatures are being recorded now, Swiss researchers said Monday.
>
>> Their study into the impact of solar radiation on Alpine glaciers
made
>> the "surprising discovery" that in the 1940s, and especially
summer
>> 1947, the ice floes lost the most ice since measurements begin 95
>> years ago, according to Zurich's Federal Institute of Technology
.

>> Yet, average temperatures have been rising in the past two
decades and
>> scientists have said glacier melt is accelerating at
unprecedented
>> levels under the impact of climate change.
>
>> "The surprising thing is that this paradox can be explained
relatively
>> easily with radiation," said one the ETHZ researchers, Matthias
Huss,
>> in the university's online review.

(cut) It can be explained even more easily by figuring that 1947
temperatures have been
manipulated by climate "scientists" and that temperatures were warmer
than previously calculated.- A. McIntire

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