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Josephine County Oregon Sheriff GIL GILBERTSON and Oregon ATTORNEY GENERAL JOHN KROGER, DO YOUR JOBS!

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Raymond Karczewski

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Dec 21, 2009, 8:44:00 PM12/21/09
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Josephine County Oregon Sheriff GIL GILBERTSON and Oregon ATTORNEY
GENERAL JOHN KROGER, DO YOUR JOBS!

We, the People of this Constitutional Republic have a right to
receive service from our Public Servants who took an Oath to the
Constitution to serve the People who put them into office.

I have repeatedly asked of you and your predecessors to Investigate
this government/media, mind control/disinformation campaign launched
against me and my family over the last 14 years. I have followed all
channels of government open for redress at the Federal (FBI
http://www.petitiononline.com/RayNita1/petition.html )
State, and County Level.

I have given the names of those responsible for the origination and
perpetuation of these conspiracy to libel themes, yet have been
STONEWALLED at every level of government WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

I have sent complaints accompanied by affidavits demanding the
former District Attorney of Josephine county CLAY E. JOHNSON, and
Present DA, STEPHEN CAMPBELL file charges of crimes committed by
JOSEPHINE COUNTY SHERIFFS Deputies and State Police to no avail. I
have been blocked from contact with the JOSEPHINE COUNTY GRAND JURY by
the JOCO District Attorneys office. I begin to question, just what
you folks do to earn your salaries

At any rate, the following is presented to you once again for you
to prove who you work for, the PEOPLE or the CORPORATION.

It is a simple matter for you to make your case of conspiracy to
libel by contacting Mr. Bill Drake, Former Owner and Editor of the
Pacifica Tribune and Present Editor Ellie Larson. Both know me
personally and can vouch for my reputation.

It is my position that this Government/Media Mind
Control/Disinformation campaign launched against the Internet using
American public through selective attacks upon vocal commentators on
the American System such as myself can be established by contacting Mr
Drake, Ms Larson, and the Originators of the Libelous themes, ED
WILKINSON, a man with direct ties with the US Government's
Intelligence Community and former family generation cult member of the
ROY MASTERS Foundation of Human Understanding. see: Media Unmasked
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch125.html#Media

Coupled with the horrendous COVER UP of the Crimes of the JOSEPHINE
COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE and sitting Court Judges, committed against
this Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man it is
time to bring this matter of Government Corruption to CLOSURE.

Just what does it take for your folks to DO YOUR JOBS?

Raymond Ronald Karczewski�

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Stalker Internet Disinformation Agents Strike out at The Sovereign
Solution to Tyranny of Government --- Boycott, Boycott, Boycott.

Truth Be Told wrote:

MoojMinion wrote:

RaymondKarczewski wrote:

See:
http://forums.mercurynews.com/topic/retired-pacifica-police-sergeant-speaks-out-on-sovereign-solution-to-tyranny-of-government-boy

rk: Well, it appears that the 14 year government/media Internet
dis-information campaign continues its stalking campaign of libelous
attacks upon my family and me.

rk T'was an act of Providence that they sought to involve the Mercury
News Internet forum to engage in their on-going Conspiracy to libel..

rk: These anonymous disinfo agents who change their name like they
change their clothes sought to publish a couple of the vicious,
fictitious stories about me via the medium of bogus news articles
purportedly gained from the Pacifica Tribune Archives, the weekly
published newspapers serving the City of Pacifica..

rk: The former owner and editor of the Pacifica Tribune, Bill Drake,
and the present editor, Ellie Larson are both personally known to me
and I to them. They are well aware of my record and reputation with
the Pacifica Police Department while I was a Sergeant there, followed
by my ownership and operation of Pacific Coast Investigations and
Security, a private patrol/Investigation Service serving Pacifica and
surrounding communities for a 20 year period.

rk I can think of no one better than Bill and Ellie to set the record
straight with regards to the bogus stories attributed to the Pacifica
Tribune in this thread.

rk: Bill and Ellie, if you read this, I ask that you set the record
straight once and for all with regards the bogus articles concerning
me, attributed to the Pacifica Tribune mentioned in this thread.

rk; It will go a long way toward waking people up to continue a
balanced focus upon the real problems we as a Sovereign People face in
our country and our communities, i.e, the loss of our Constitutional
Republic, our Freedom, our Sovereignty and our forcible
injection/adherence to a destructive two-tiered Master/Slave system of
a Centralized Banking One World Order..

Raymond Ronald Karczewski�

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tbt: Dear Raymond

TruthBeTold wrote:


tbt: It is time to refill your psych prescription. You are obviously
out of your medication. You write like you could be the next
uni-bomber. And you're a retired cop??? Medically retired I am sure
(due to your obvious mental illness issues). What a TARD!

tbt: Raymond Karczewski subject of old Pacifica Tribune article

tbt: Pacifica Tribune, 1969 "Badge and gun traded for bottle and
blasphemy"

San Francisco California: Ray Karczewski, 32, of San Francisco
was arrested this afternoon following a disturbance at the
City Hall. An extremely intoxicated Karczewski burst into
Council Chambers demanding to be reinstated to his job as an
administrative assistant with the Pacifica Police Department.
The incident became a felony assault when Karczewski
proclaimed he was Jesus Christ and threw a liquor bottle at
city officers. He then fled the chambers, and was witnessed
knocking down a woman holding an infant, screaming obscenities
random visitors in the immediate vicinity,

Karczewski was terminated from the Pacifica Police Department
earlier in the year stemming from a 1968 alcohol related
shooting of a mannequin in a bay area discount clothing
store. He lied on the store's application, insinuating
himself to be a police officer when in fact he simply worked
in a support capacity for the department. Further
investigation uncovered a history of mental illness and prior
out-of-state criminal convictions for animal rape, drug
possession, and indecent exposure.

Karczewski was arrested several hours later urinating on
Portalo's statue. He was taken into custody following a brief
scuffle and is facing a number of charges.

"I will flood Linda Mar with my holy urine" Karczewski shouted
at reporters and witnesses assembled on the scene, "Divine
retribution for this Satanic city's many blasphemies against
me is at hand."

Karczewski will be released on a $13,200 bond following an 24
hour detoxification process at the city drunk tank.

It just gets better! A true WACKO!!

TruthBeTold wrote:

RETIRED POLICE SGT. HELD IN JAIL FOR CONSTITUTIONAL BELIEFS

By Paul Walter

Posted: October 14, 2002, 7:45pm, pacific

NewsWithViews.com

GRANTS PASS, OR. -- Sixty-five year old Ray Karczewski, a retired
police sergeant from Pacifica, California, whose wife of 43 years
describes him as "steadfast in what he does" and "very focused" is in
the Josephine County, Oregon jail because of his constitutional
beliefs.

On September 5, 2002, Mr. Karczewski was stopped for a minor traffic
violation. His violation? He failed to dim his high beam headlights.
When the officer asked Mr. Karczewski for his driver's license (and
other documents which he had), Mr. Karczewski replied, "I don't need a
license for private purposes on a public road, in a private vehicle."
Then a series of escalating events took place that ultimately led to
his arrest in the courthouse hallway.

On September 12, 2002, Mr. Karczewski appeared in court with his wife
and numerous witnesses, including myself, who just happened to be
there. Mr. Karczewski's case was the last one called. After reading
the charges, Judge Allen H. Coon asked Mr. Karczewski to enter a plea
of 'guilty' or 'not guilty'. While remaining seated in the gallery,
Mr. Karczewski informed the judge that the judge's jurisdiction over
this matter was being formally challenged and then had the court
bailiff deliver to the judge the appropriate papers with the stated
allegation. The judge ignored the papers and then proceeded to inform
Mr. Karczewski that if there was a question of identity, and according
to Mr. Karczewski that person was not here, then he (the judge) would
issue a bench warrant for failure to appear to the person to whom the
original charges were directed. Then the judge abruptly got up and
left the courtroom. We all left the courtroom and stopped at the
courthouse water fountain.

On Judge Coon's orders, and in front of numerous witnesses, including
myself, Mr. Karczewski was arrested and handcuffed by Corporal John
Justema and Deputy Malin, without having his Rights read to him, and
not answering Mr. Karczewski's question "in whose name is the warrant
issued." Mr. Karczewski was then taken to the county jail. What makes
this case so weird is that Judge Coon had Mr. Karczewski arrested for
NOT appearing in court when Mr. Karczewski WAS there in front of Judge
Coon AND numerous witnesses.

Due to this injustice, Mr. Karczewski, being a man of principle with
steadfast beliefs decided to go on a hunger strike. Today marks his
33rd day. Local media, the Grants Pass Daily Courier, kept silent on
Karczewski's hunger strike. Due to pressure from concerned family,
friends and citizens, the Courier finally ran their first article on
Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 28 days into the hunger strike.

Anita, Mr. Karczewski's wife, released the following statement from
her husband:

"According to the law, when the court is challenged to prove
jurisdiction, the court must do so in writing... Until then no
proceeding may continue... The question Americans who value their
freedom must ask themselves is do we or do we not live under the
Constitution. When the court can make up their own rules as they go
along and pay no heed to the Constitution, we live in a lawless land."


On the 10th of October judge Coon allowed, for the first time, to have
Mr. Karczewski address the court with his legal issues and asked Mr.
Karczewski to produce case law, which he did, to see if they had
merit. At Mr. Karczewski's last hearing he supplied case law to the
judge who promised to read them.

The judge said he wanted to accommodate the state with conditional
release papers, which Mr. Karczewski refuses to sign, stating he
refuses to do anything until written proof of jurisdiction is
established, which the judge refuses to do. According to Karczewski's
wife, they'll either let him out of jail or he'll take the hunger
strike to its ultimate conclusion.

Judge Coon said he didn't understand Mr. Karczewsk's legal issues,
then imposed public defender, attorney Peter Smith, on Mr. Karczewski
against Mr. Karczewsk's wishes. According to the Courier Judge Coon
wanted Attorney Smith to gain an opinion on Mr. Karczewski's mental
stability. The judge was quoted as saying, "I still have some concerns
about the defendants mental health...the defendant has some ideas
which are different...I don't have a problem with ideas that are
different, so long as those differences are the product of a healthy
mind."

This situation, spotlighting the close relationship between Josephine
County's Mental Health and the court system, is a frightening specter.
If a judge can order a psychological evaluation on a person for being
different, then we are all in danger because we are all different.
This is extremely alarming. Is this why $22 million is being spent on
mental health in Josephine County, with a population of only 80,000?

This sets a dangerous precedence. The same philosophy was practiced
within the Third Reich. Adolph Hitler had people incarcerated under
mental health simply for holding an opposing view. The Soviet Union
used mental health to control dissidents and political opponents.

Mr. Karczewski, a dedicated police sergeant, took a bullet in the line
of duty. Is this the thanks he is receiving from Judge Coon? Former
Josephine County, Oregon deputy, Jerry B. Mathel, was caught with a
large collection of child pornography, yet he received only probation,
dismissed from the force and to my knowledge received no psychological
evaluation. This is only one example, there are others to numerous to
mention. Is there a double standard here?

Community concern has apparently expedited a trial date of October 15,
2002, at 9:30 AM, at the Josephine County Courthouse, since the
Courier published a November 1, 2002 trial date.

On October 14, at 4:15pm I interviewed Anita Karczewski at their home
in Cave Junction, OR. where she made the following predictions:
"They're going to convict him of something, then release him for time
served." Why, I asked: "To save face and avoid proving jurisdiction"
replied Anita. Anita can be reached at:

TruthBeTold wrote:

tbt: man google this guys name
i did lmao

tbt: this is an exerpt from one of the articles....

tbt: Folks, the nutter currently using the posting name "Raymond
Karczewski" has spammed your forum URL to dozens of newsgroups on
Usenet and dozens of more web forums. He is a mentally ill felon who
will bring you nothing but trouble, you may as well ban him now. He
will destroy your board all the while crowing about his past violence
towards his kids, wife, and neighbors. He also posts with a variety of
sock puppet names such as "citizen-x" "rudolf underwood" and "o"

tbt: I'm serious, the cheese has slid right off this guy's cracker.
He invented his loony religion to get out of a moving violation and
modeled it after Roy Master's cult. If you read his insane phamplet
you can see that he drew hs material straight from Krishnamurti just
changing enough words to avoid a plagiarism claim.

tbt: I can see from reading some of these other posts that he is
also using his cult to excuse racism and paedophilia.

tbt: Believe it or not, Ray aka The Kazoo used to be a cop until
shooting a mannequin in a store in Pacifica County while working part
time as a security guard to supplement his income. The ensuing scandal
spilled over into his law enforcement career causing him to be fired
from the police department. He had a history of shooting things that
upset him such as the CB radio in his prowl car. He got hysterical at
every town meeting and eventually had to flee California, rented a
battered trailer in some rural ghetto, and has spent the last 30 years
living on welfare and stalking people who disagree with him.

tbt: You don't have to take my word for it, it can all be pieced
together out on his website, but whatever you do, don't identify
yourself to him or he will wind up trying to place liens on your
private assets for disagreeing with him. He did the same thing to a
bunch of cops and judges in Oregon, that is why he is a convicted
felon now.

Ban Him? This is the type of

MoojMinion wrote:

mm: Ban Him? This is the type of Kook the Merc has been looking for
to round out their crack staff of half-baked fiction writers. Who
better than a self-proclaimed "retired police sergeant" to lend that
aire of creidbility that the MercuryNews has been searching for?

NOw, this is a good one!! LOL

TruthBeTold wrote:

tbt: Pacifica Tribune, 1970
Bay man arrested naked and drunk at hospital (page 3 headline)

PACIFICA: A San Francisco man was arrested in a Bay area hospital
following an altercation with medical staff. Raymond Ronald
Karczewski, 33 entered San Francisco General Hospital complaining of
rectal bleeding and started arguing with several nurses. He was
escorted to a private office to await consultation but disappeared
with staff presuming he had left the premises.

Security was called to a crowded waiting room in the pediatrics wing
ten minutes later where Karczewski was discovered to be completely
undressed and masturbating in full view of those within, including a
number of children.

"It was horrible" said Sabrina Wright who was waiting with her 10
and 12 year old sons. "He leered at my boys while touching himself,
told them that he was Jesus Christ, wanted them to 'join' with
him." Another witness indicated that Karczewski staggered into the
bathroom and emerged naked after several children ran from it
screaming.

Karczewski is being held pending arraignment.

It just doesn't stop Ray......

TruthBeTold

tbt: Pacifica Tribune, 1970
Shamed ex-cop agrees to leave state

tbt: PACIFICA: Raymond Karczewski, 33, of San Francisco agreed in a
plea bargain to leave California after numerous arrests and amassment
of 17 criminal charges.

Karczewski has made a name for himself over the past several years
with outrageous, alcohol-fueled behavior. In 1968 he shot a mannequin
in a local discount clothing store, in 1969 he attacked the mayor and
members of the Pacifica city council after being terminated from the
Pacifica PD stemming from the mannequin shooting incident. Although
the shooting occurred off-duty from the PD, his bizarre behavior was a
concern and increasingly embarrassing for the department.

His reputation was already tarnished among the officers with whom he
served, many of them referring to him as a "real live Barney Fife."
Karczewski had reportedly shot himself in the foot while playing with
his police issue revolver. Three months later, he shot his patrol car
radio in a fit of anger, wounding his partner as shrapnel from the
round was deflected from the chassis into the officer's knee and
groin.

Just two months ago, Karczewski was arrested in a Bay area hospital,
naked, intoxicated, masturbating in a crowded waiting room. He has
agreed to leave the state by the end of the year, never to return or
face reinstatement of a multitude of criminal charges.

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"No other man but I in the recorded History of
mankind, including JESUS CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"

Raymond Ronald Karczewski� http://www.arkenterprises.com

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ark...@frontier.com (Raymond Karczewski) wrote in
news:4b30245e...@news.frontier.com:

> Josephine County Oregon Sheriff GIL GILBERTSON and Oregon ATTORNEY
> GENERAL JOHN KROGER, DO YOUR JOBS!

I'm all for it! Get Ray off the government dole now!

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Edgar Wolphe

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Furiously scratching in the sand, ark...@frontier.com (Raymond
Karczewski) wrote:

>Josephine County Oregon Sheriff GIL GILBERTSON and Oregon ATTORNEY
>GENERAL JOHN KROGER, DO YOUR JOBS!

So we're back on THAT kick again, eh Ray?

> We, the People of this Constitutional Republic have a right to
>receive service from our Public Servants who took an Oath to the
>Constitution to serve the People who put them into office.

Yes WE do!!

Unfortunately for Ray, those Services do not include chasing after
imaginary bogymen, prosecuting people whose "crime" is laughing at
Ray, or submitting to thje "rulings" of the Court of Ray.

BTW- do note that that "We" includes a few more people than just you,
Ray.

> I have followed all
>channels of government open for redress...

No you haven't...


>
> I have given the names of those responsible for the origination and
>perpetuation of these conspiracy to libel themes,

Then take those people to court,. This process of personal redress
has been set up by the People of the State of Oregon solely for the
purpose seeing that you may seek relief and compensation from your
tormentors according the Laws of the State of Oregon-- NOT the Court
of Ray (sorry... <snigger...>).

> yet have been
>STONEWALLED at every level of government WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

(Ray's Ego translates laughter as "Stonewalling").

> I begin to question, just what
>you folks do to earn your salaries

Seeing that they were NOT hired to be your personnal tort lawyer...

> At any rate, the following is presented to you once again for you
>to prove who you work for, the PEOPLE or the CORPORATION.

You're whining here does not "prove" a damn thing. Gotta do that in a
court of law.

> It is a simple matter for you to make your case of conspiracy to

>libel...

Again- it is up to YOU to enter a courtroom and make the "conspiracy"
case. Once done, OUR public servants may take an interest.

Bottom line? Ray does not have the balls to face his "tormentors" on
his own. He is far too happy crying "poor, poor me" to the two or
three morons who actually take him seriously.


EW

No one in history, since the beginning of recorded time, has
written directly, based on first hand understanding, as I have,
including Jesus of Nazareth.
--Raymond Ronald Karczewski

Raymond Karczewski

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Re: Josephine County Oregon Sheriff GIL GILBERTSON and Oregon ATTORNEY

GENERAL JOHN KROGER, DO YOUR JOBS!

Spam...@spamcop.com (Edgar Wolphe) Wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (ark...@earthlink.net) wrote:

Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:06:40 GMT

ew: > Furiously scratching in the sand, ark...@frontier.com (Raymond
Karczewski) wrote:

rk: >>Josephine County Oregon Sheriff GIL GILBERTSON and Oregon


ATTORNEY GENERAL JOHN KROGER, DO YOUR JOBS!

ew: > So we're back on THAT kick again, eh Ray?

rk: >> We, the People of this Constitutional Republic have a right to


receive service from our Public Servants who took an Oath to the
Constitution to serve the People who put them into office.

ew: > Yes WE do!!

ew: > Unfortunately for Ray, those Services do not include chasing


after imaginary bogymen, prosecuting people whose "crime" is laughing
at Ray, or submitting to thje "rulings" of the Court of Ray.

rk: Imaginary "bogymen"? Anyone can see in black and white the
existence of these vicious disinformation agents (that includes you.
Do you consider yourself a "bogyman"?)

ew: > BTW- do note that that "We" includes a few more people than
just you, Ray.

rk: Yes, and unfortunately most of them are mute compliant, fearful
sheeple about to be led to the slaughter in the coming Martial Law.

rk: >> I have followed all channels of government open for redress...

ew: > No you haven't...

rk: You know this HOW??

rk: >> I have given the names of those responsible for the


origination and perpetuation of these conspiracy to libel themes,

ew: > Then take those people to court,.

rk: That's exactly what I'm doing. I'm taking them to court for the
Criminal Felony Charge of Conspiracy to Libel.

ew: > This process of personal redress has been set up by the People


of the State of Oregon solely for the purpose seeing that you may seek
relief and compensation from your tormentors according the Laws of the
State of Oregon-- NOT the Court of Ray (sorry... <snigger...>).

rk: There is no "Court of Ray" except in you feverish attempt at
misdirection. I stand in God's Law, and as such am not in conflict
with Common Law, nor Constitutional Law. I do not abide by "color of
law" as do most who are ignorant of their true status as a Sovereign
Man or Woman.

rk: >> yet have been STONEWALLED at every level of government WITHOUT
EXCEPTION.

ew: > (Ray's Ego translates laughter as "Stonewalling").

rk: That dog won't hunt. No reasonable man spends fourteen year
attempting to destroy anothers reputation while calling it "laughing."

rk: >> I begin to question, just what you folks do to earn your
salaries

ew: > Seeing that they were NOT hired to be your personnal tort
lawyer...

rk: I'm not in search of a "tort lawyer." I am looking for a
single individual of some power in the FEDERAL, STATE OF OREGON and
COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE governments who possess even a scintilla of
Integrity to do the job they are paid to do by the taxpayes who employ
them..

rk: >> At any rate, the following is presented to you once again


for you to prove who you work for, the PEOPLE or the CORPORATION.

ew: > You're whining here does not "prove" a damn thing. Gotta do


that in a court of law.

rk: I'm ready. I'm waiting on our Criminal Justice System here in
the State of Oregon, and Josephine County.

rk: >> It is a simple matter for you to make your case of conspiracy
to libel...

ew: > Again- it is up to YOU to enter a courtroom and make the


"conspiracy" case. Once done, OUR public servants may take an
interest.

rk: What nonsense you attempt to peddle. How many crime victims do
you know of who must present the case against their attackers. Isn't
that the job of Law Enforcement Investigators? You bet!!

ew: > Bottom line? Ray does not have the balls to face his


"tormentors" on his own. He is far too happy crying "poor, poor me"
to the two or three morons who actually take him seriously.

rk; All of my evidence is in statement form written in real time and
found on my website shortly after the occurance of the actual events
I stand by them. That's the best kind of admissible evidence there
is.

rk: That is why I am STONEWALLED.

EW

Raymond Ronald Karczewski�

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Raymond "the Anti-Mannequin Man" Karczewski preached ===>

> Re: Josephine County Oregon Sheriff GIL GILBERTSON and Oregon ATTORNEY
> GENERAL JOHN KROGER, DO YOUR JOBS!

They are doing their jobs by not running off to chase some rogue bear you claim has bitten you.

> rk: >>Josephine County Oregon Sheriff GIL GILBERTSON and Oregon
> ATTORNEY GENERAL JOHN KROGER, DO YOUR JOBS!
>
> ew: > So we're back on THAT kick again, eh Ray?

Not only he is back on THAT kick, he is repeating himself again. "Repetition is a sign of ignorance" - Raymond Ronald Karczewski

> rk: >> We, the People of this Constitutional Republic have a right to
> receive service from our Public Servants who took an Oath to the
> Constitution to serve the People who put them into office.
>
> ew: > Yes WE do!!
>
> ew: > Unfortunately for Ray, those Services do not include chasing
> after imaginary bogymen, prosecuting people whose "crime" is laughing
> at Ray, or submitting to thje "rulings" of the Court of Ray.
>
> rk: Imaginary "bogymen"? Anyone can see in black and white the
> existence of these vicious disinformation agents (that includes you.
> Do you consider yourself a "bogyman"?)

No, just another sovereign citizen exercising his sovereign right (and I do so love 'sovereign rights' afforded to 'sovereign citizens' *chuckle*) to laugh at homeless buffoons marching around with signs on their necks reading "The End Is Near!"

> ew: > BTW- do note that that "We" includes a few more people than
> just you, Ray.
>
> rk: Yes, and unfortunately most of them are mute compliant, fearful
> sheeple about to be led to the slaughter in the coming Martial Law.

<Looks at street corner>
Hmmmmmm.....
No soldiers caving in civilian skulls with rifle butts.....
No tanks rolling over fences and smashing into homes.....
No curfews declared or implied.....
Only people walking, driving, going about their business, it's as if they are free and exercising that freedom.

Hasn't that "The End Is Near" sign become like an albatross around Ray's neck? Ray thinks what he is doing is unique and new, but New York City has thousands of homeless nut cases and they have been carrying around those signs since almost the time of that city's founding, much further into the past than the Internet extends. They are only laughed at, mocked, and ridiculed by those in NYC. The Internet has enabled Ray to secure world-wide mockery as Ray have essentially screamed out, begging for everyone who comes across Ray to heap scorn upon Ray's huge humped back.

Ray has neither read nor learned the parables of Chicken Little and crying wolf. Too bad for Ray, this lack of education causes the Court of Ray to be heaped with contempt much to Ray's chagrin.

> rk: >> I have followed all channels of government open for redress...
>
> ew: > No you haven't...
>
> rk: You know this HOW??

Fourteen years of hubris, Ray. Had you spent a couple hours speaking to an attorney, you could have filed a tort and sought remedy in a real court as the Court of Ray has no jurisdiction over anyone but Ray. Nevertheless, any filing would be laughed out of court by a jury of Ray's peers, Ray still has that venue which Ray has consistently failed to employ thus it is reasonable to conclude that Ray derives pleasure from being a bitch-slapped loony.

> rk: >> I have given the names of those responsible for the
> origination and perpetuation of these conspiracy to libel themes,
>
> ew: > Then take those people to court,.
>
> rk: That's exactly what I'm doing. I'm taking them to court for the
> Criminal Felony Charge of Conspiracy to Libel.

No, you are not, only a prosecutor may determine an individual is to be indicted for a crime and prosecutor after prosecutor in Josephine County has told you there is no crime, to seek remedy in civil venues. That is called prosecutorial discretion and since prosecutors are not subject to the Court of Ray, they discretely tell you "no" - and it drives you bananas, does it not?

> ew: > This process of personal redress has been set up by the People
> of the State of Oregon solely for the purpose seeing that you may seek
> relief and compensation from your tormentors according the Laws of the
> State of Oregon-- NOT the Court of Ray (sorry... <snigger...>).
>
> rk: There is no "Court of Ray" except in you feverish attempt at
> misdirection. I stand in God's Law

LOL!!! "God's law" in man's court is superseded by man's law otherwise you would be in jail for not going to church and tithing to god.

> rk: >> yet have been STONEWALLED at every level of government WITHOUT
> EXCEPTION.
>
> ew: > (Ray's Ego translates laughter as "Stonewalling").
>
> rk: That dog won't hunt. No reasonable man spends fourteen year
> attempting to destroy anothers reputation while calling it "laughing."

No reasonable man spends fourteen years demanding prosecutors to jail people who laugh at him.

> rk: >> I begin to question, just what you folks do to earn your
> salaries
>
> ew: > Seeing that they were NOT hired to be your personnal tort
> lawyer...
>
> rk: I'm not in search of a "tort lawyer."

Then you shall receive no relief. Hell, isn't it?

> rk: >> At any rate, the following is presented to you once again
> for you to prove who you work for, the PEOPLE or the CORPORATION.

Poor senile Ray keeps forgetting that he quit the police force decades ago, that he has no authority to demand Edgar's ID or any other information from him.

> ew: > You're whining here does not "prove" a damn thing. Gotta do
> that in a court of law.
>
> rk: I'm ready. I'm waiting on our Criminal Justice System here in
> the State of Oregon, and Josephine County.

Torts are civil matters, not criminal. What a glaring indictment of the public education system you are, Ray.

> rk: >> It is a simple matter for you to make your case of conspiracy
> to libel...
>
> ew: > Again- it is up to YOU to enter a courtroom and make the
> "conspiracy" case. Once done, OUR public servants may take an
> interest.
>
> rk: What nonsense you attempt to peddle.

Bwahahahaha!!! Ray, while consistently being a failure or quitter or both at everything he does has always been a great source of irony and siggy material :o)

> rk: How many crime victims do you know of who must present the
> case against their attackers.

Ray thinks Ray is a victim because Ray is laughed at by people who find him amusing. Most entertainers, comedians, and clowns would be appreciative of the laughter and attention but not Ray, because while Ray is largely ignorant of most aspects regarded as "common sense" - Ray does know that those he entertains are not laughing with him, and that is like a stinging welt that just won't stop smarting to an ego as massive as Ray's.

> ew: > Bottom line? Ray does not have the balls to face his
> "tormentors" on his own. He is far too happy crying "poor, poor me"
> to the two or three morons who actually take him seriously.
>
> rk; All of my evidence is in statement form written in real time and
> found on my website shortly after the occurance of the actual events
> I stand by them. That's the best kind of admissible evidence there
> is.

Your *chuckling* website *LAUGHING* was admitted into evidence once before. Ed Wilkinson wrote about the amusement it presented to a courtroom full of people who, like everyone else who encounters you, belted your ego with laughter.

> rk: That is why I am MENTALLY ILL.

I edited your last comment, Ray. 'nuff said.

--

"I once ... shot a mannequin"
Raymond Ronald Karczewski, Mannequin Assassin

Edgar Wolphe

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Dec 22, 2009, 11:29:11 PM12/22/09
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Furiously scratching in the sand, ark...@frontier.com (Raymond
Karczewski) wrote:

>ew: > Unfortunately for Ray, those Services do not include chasing
>after imaginary bogymen, prosecuting people whose "crime" is laughing
>at Ray, or submitting to thje "rulings" of the Court of Ray.
>
>rk: Imaginary "bogymen"? Anyone can see in black and white the
>existence of these vicious disinformation agents (that includes you.
>Do you consider yourself a "bogyman"?)

BOO!!

>ew: > BTW- do note that that "We" includes a few more people than
>just you, Ray.
>
>rk: Yes, and unfortunately most of them are mute compliant, fearful
>sheeple about to be led to the slaughter in the coming Martial Law.

Ahhhhh yes. The 'ole "Martial Law" bogyman. You do realize, Ray,
that paranoid loonies have hacking up that tired refrain for decades.
It was a favorite of Robert Welch. And just how accurate were those
dire predictions?

>rk: >> I have followed all channels of government open for redress...
>
>ew: > No you haven't...
>
>rk: You know this HOW??

You rather conveniently have posted ALL of your lame whines and ALL of
your humorous attempts at quasi- legal manoevers for years. But you
never took the blazingly obvious step of filing a lawsuit against your
amused audience. Cowardise apparently has won out in your case.

>rk: >> I have given the names of those responsible for the
>origination and perpetuation of these conspiracy to libel themes,
>
>ew: > Then take those people to court,.
>
>rk: That's exactly what I'm doing. I'm taking them to court for the
>Criminal Felony Charge of Conspiracy to Libel.

No you are not. All you are doing is whining to a state official
about your bruised Ego and claims of Libel that have not been proven
in court. Poor, Poor Ray! (snif!).

>rk: There is no "Court of Ray" except in you feverish attempt at
>misdirection. I stand in God's Law, and as such am not in conflict
>with Common Law, nor Constitutional Law. I do not abide by "color of
>law" as do most who are ignorant of their true status as a Sovereign
>Man or Woman.

IOW, You answer only to the Court of Ray... Right?

>ew: > (Ray's Ego translates laughter as "Stonewalling").
>
>rk: That dog won't hunt. No reasonable man spends fourteen year
>attempting to destroy anothers reputation while calling it "laughing."

Ah! but spending a little time laughing at a buffoon is easy work
over the years. On the other hand, you spending 14 years fruitlessly
pissing on the same windmill does seem just a little.... weird-
don't you think?

>rk: I'm not in search of a "tort lawyer." I am looking for a
>single individual of some power in the FEDERAL, STATE OF OREGON and
>COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE governments who possess even a scintilla of
>Integrity to do the job they are paid to do by the taxpayes who employ
>them..

They are not paid to be YOUR problem solver. "They" set up a very
convenient system for folks like you to use should you feel the need
to right a wrong- its called Civil Court.

>rk: I'm ready. I'm waiting on our Criminal Justice System here in
>the State of Oregon, and Josephine County.

Enjoy waiting, Ray? Well, of COURSE you do! Otherwise, you'd have
less to whine and carry on about. And since you live only to be
"oppressed"...

>rk: >> It is a simple matter for you to make your case of conspiracy
>to libel...
>
>ew: > Again- it is up to YOU to enter a courtroom and make the
>"conspiracy" case. Once done, OUR public servants may take an
>interest.
>
>rk: What nonsense you attempt to peddle. How many crime victims do
>you know of who must present the case against their attackers. Isn't
>that the job of Law Enforcement Investigators? You bet!!

First, ya' gotta prove it is a crime. Libel cases can only be tried
in civil court. That's the step you don't have the cojones for.

>ew: > Bottom line? Ray does not have the balls to face his
>"tormentors" on his own. He is far too happy crying "poor, poor me"
>to the two or three morons who actually take him seriously.

Edgar Wolphe

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Dec 22, 2009, 11:23:52 PM12/22/09
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Furiously scratching in the sand, ark...@frontier.com (Raymond
Karczewski) wrote:

>ew: > Unfortunately for Ray, those Services do not include chasing
>after imaginary bogymen, prosecuting people whose "crime" is laughing
>at Ray, or submitting to thje "rulings" of the Court of Ray.
>
>rk: Imaginary "bogymen"? Anyone can see in black and white the
>existence of these vicious disinformation agents (that includes you.
>Do you consider yourself a "bogyman"?)

BOO!!

>ew: > BTW- do note that that "We" includes a few more people than
>just you, Ray.
>
>rk: Yes, and unfortunately most of them are mute compliant, fearful
>sheeple about to be led to the slaughter in the coming Martial Law.

Ahhhhh yes. The 'ole "Martial Law" bogyman. You do realize, Ray,


that paranoid loonies have hacking up that tired refrain for decades.
It was a favorite of Robert Welch. And just how accurate were those
dire predictions?

>rk: >> I have followed all channels of government open for redress...


>
>ew: > No you haven't...
>
>rk: You know this HOW??

You rather conveniently have posted ALL of your lame whines and ALL of


your humorous attempts at quasi- legal manoevers for years. But you
never took the blazingly obvious step of filing a lawsuit against your
amused audience. Cowardise apparently has won out in your case.

>rk: >> I have given the names of those responsible for the


>origination and perpetuation of these conspiracy to libel themes,
>
>ew: > Then take those people to court,.
>
>rk: That's exactly what I'm doing. I'm taking them to court for the
>Criminal Felony Charge of Conspiracy to Libel.

No you are not. All you are doing is whining to a state official


about your bruised Ego and claims of Libel that have not been proven
in court. Poor, Poor Ray! (snif!).

>rk: There is no "Court of Ray" except in you feverish attempt at


>misdirection. I stand in God's Law, and as such am not in conflict
>with Common Law, nor Constitutional Law. I do not abide by "color of
>law" as do most who are ignorant of their true status as a Sovereign
>Man or Woman.

IOW, You answer only to the Court of Ray... Right?

>ew: > (Ray's Ego translates laughter as "Stonewalling").


>
>rk: That dog won't hunt. No reasonable man spends fourteen year
>attempting to destroy anothers reputation while calling it "laughing."

Ah! but spending a little time laughing at a buffoon is easy work


over the years. On the other hand, you spending 14 years fruitlessly
pissing on the same windmill does seem just a little.... weird-
don't you think?

>rk: I'm not in search of a "tort lawyer." I am looking for a


>single individual of some power in the FEDERAL, STATE OF OREGON and
>COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE governments who possess even a scintilla of
>Integrity to do the job they are paid to do by the taxpayes who employ
>them..

They are not paid to be YOUR problem solver. "They" set up a very


convenient system for folks like you to use should you feel the need
to right a wrong- its called Civil Court.

>rk: I'm ready. I'm waiting on our Criminal Justice System here in


>the State of Oregon, and Josephine County.

Enjoy waiting, Ray? Well, of COURSE you do! Otherwise, you'd have


less to whine and carry on about. And since you live only to be
"oppressed"...

>rk: >> It is a simple matter for you to make your case of conspiracy


>to libel...
>
>ew: > Again- it is up to YOU to enter a courtroom and make the
>"conspiracy" case. Once done, OUR public servants may take an
>interest.
>
>rk: What nonsense you attempt to peddle. How many crime victims do
>you know of who must present the case against their attackers. Isn't
>that the job of Law Enforcement Investigators? You bet!!

First, ya' gotta prove it is a crime. Libel cases can only be tried


in civil court. That's the step you don't have the cojones for.

>ew: > Bottom line? Ray does not have the balls to face his


>"tormentors" on his own. He is far too happy crying "poor, poor me"
>to the two or three morons who actually take him seriously.

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