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Christ came to set you free, Satan comes to enslave you
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May 17, 2013, 1:55:55 PM5/17/13
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Christ took your sins away, Satan comes to make you sin.
It might seem simple but think about it, see all those rich workers
making money but emotionally and ethically they are like zombies, they
feel nothing, they have money they have work they have family but they
feel dead. They feel like slaves to the system, regardless of how much
money they make it's never enough. Nagging wives want more and more,
nagging kids want more and more,
Ecc 5v10 whoever loves money never has money enough; whoever loves
wealth is never satisfied with his ( or her ) income. This too is
meaningless.
Yet we turn to Matthew 25 and see many rebuked by the Lord for not
loving the lost and needy. Let's not be harsh on the rich for a moment
they are victims of Satan. Satan has made them greedy and Satan has
destroyed their emotions, Satan has destroyed their compassion, Satan
has destroyed their love Mt 24v12.
James 1v9,10 seems to describe the opposite of what most people think,
the poor having high position and the rich low position. The rich buy in
to Satan's games heart and soul, and yet something is missing, they have
given their soul like so many others over to money. Rather that work
being a pleasure it becomes a burden, more so with globalization and
competition driving people to work harder for less.
As Satan destroys compassion people don't care about the needy, they
feel there is no love so they stop loving also. Greedy bosses, nagging
wives and kids, stress, health problems, depression. One might think
church would be an escape from that but most evangelical or pentecostal
churches are all about money and work also.
We open the new testament and it's nothing like many churches and so
thing get worse.
You see many workers and they look depressed and burdened, they have
money, they have family, they have homes and entertainment yet they are
depressed. They are a slave to all those things. God's plan was for a
wife to be a helper Gen2v18 but many realize their wife is simply greedy
and selfish, there is divorce. They work so hard there is little time
for family and life beyond work. Workers are sent around the world for
global companies that care nothing about the fact the worker is working
too much. Workers travel too much, globalization pollutes the world.
Community is lost, the best are never around they are in the sky or
traveling.
Satan has led the world carefully to destruction through sin. They want
a better world but they make it worse, the love of money, the worship of
what they make. The love dies, when the love dies no-one cares about
inequality. Love becomes rare to the point of extinction.
Each generation becomes worse, the abused become the abusers, the
controlled become the controllers and love is destroyed. The way out is
not a phone from the Matrix but making Jesus Lord, his love cast away
your sin forever. He is love 1 John 4v16.
Some ask where is God, he seems silent, he seems to be doing nothing. He
has left us to it, left us prey to Satan? This life is merely a exam to
like find that phone to exit this Matrix, a simple prayer to make Jesus
Lord, then you realize what this reality is about. It might seem very
depressing and it is ( Gen 6 ) many are lost deceived by Satan. It is
very depressing and motivating to try to enlighten the lost to see the
light ( John 1 ). A better world is coming soon, the millennial reign of
Christ.
It might seem simple but think about it, see all those rich workers
making money but emotionally and ethically they are like zombies, they
feel nothing, they have money they have work they have family but they
feel dead. They feel like slaves to the system, regardless of how much
money they make it's never enough. Nagging wives want more and more,
nagging kids want more and more,
Ecc 5v10 whoever loves money never has money enough; whoever loves
wealth is never satisfied with his ( or her ) income. This too is
meaningless.
Yet we turn to Matthew 25 and see many rebuked by the Lord for not
loving the lost and needy. Let's not be harsh on the rich for a moment
they are victims of Satan. Satan has made them greedy and Satan has
destroyed their emotions, Satan has destroyed their compassion, Satan
has destroyed their love Mt 24v12.
James 1v9,10 seems to describe the opposite of what most people think,
the poor having high position and the rich low position. The rich buy in
to Satan's games heart and soul, and yet something is missing, they have
given their soul like so many others over to money. Rather that work
being a pleasure it becomes a burden, more so with globalization and
competition driving people to work harder for less.
As Satan destroys compassion people don't care about the needy, they
feel there is no love so they stop loving also. Greedy bosses, nagging
wives and kids, stress, health problems, depression. One might think
church would be an escape from that but most evangelical or pentecostal
churches are all about money and work also.
We open the new testament and it's nothing like many churches and so
thing get worse.
You see many workers and they look depressed and burdened, they have
money, they have family, they have homes and entertainment yet they are
depressed. They are a slave to all those things. God's plan was for a
wife to be a helper Gen2v18 but many realize their wife is simply greedy
and selfish, there is divorce. They work so hard there is little time
for family and life beyond work. Workers are sent around the world for
global companies that care nothing about the fact the worker is working
too much. Workers travel too much, globalization pollutes the world.
Community is lost, the best are never around they are in the sky or
traveling.
Satan has led the world carefully to destruction through sin. They want
a better world but they make it worse, the love of money, the worship of
what they make. The love dies, when the love dies no-one cares about
inequality. Love becomes rare to the point of extinction.
Each generation becomes worse, the abused become the abusers, the
controlled become the controllers and love is destroyed. The way out is
not a phone from the Matrix but making Jesus Lord, his love cast away
your sin forever. He is love 1 John 4v16.
Some ask where is God, he seems silent, he seems to be doing nothing. He
has left us to it, left us prey to Satan? This life is merely a exam to
like find that phone to exit this Matrix, a simple prayer to make Jesus
Lord, then you realize what this reality is about. It might seem very
depressing and it is ( Gen 6 ) many are lost deceived by Satan. It is
very depressing and motivating to try to enlighten the lost to see the
light ( John 1 ). A better world is coming soon, the millennial reign of
Christ.
Feffeleskin
May 17, 2013, 3:50:47 PM5/17/13
to
We don't even know if Jesus ever existed. Remember, the Greeks were great
for their mythology and guess who wrote the NT.
"news" <ne...@news.news> wrote in message
news:kn5qvn$tcn$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
for their mythology and guess who wrote the NT.
"news" <ne...@news.news> wrote in message
news:kn5qvn$tcn$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
James
May 18, 2013, 12:40:38 PM5/18/13
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"Feffeleskin" <Feff...@aol.com>
exist as a man. I'll list some of them, and if you want more, just
ask.
The first century non-Christian historian Josephus (37-100 A.D) wrote,
"Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of
such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both
many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And
when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had
condemned him to the cross, (9) those that loved him at the first did
not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day;
(10) as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other
wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named
from him, are not extinct at this day." (Antiquities of the Jews, Book
XVIII, Chap. III, par. 3.)
Justin Martyr, writing in the middle of the second century, wrote in
reference to the death of Jesus:
"That these things did happen, you can ascertain from the Acts of
Pontius Pilate."
In addition, according to Justin Martyr, these same records mentioned
Jesus' miracles, regarding which he says:
"That He did those things, you can learn from the Acts of Pontius
Pilate."
True, these "Acts," or official records, no longer exist. But they
evidently did exist in the second century, and Justin Martyr
confidently challenged his readers to check them to verify the truth
of what he said. (Antiquities of the Jews, Book XVIII, Chap. III, par.
3)
"German historian and archaeologist Hans Einsle writes that Jewish
historian Flavius Josephus, Roman writers Suetonius and Pliny, and
especially Roman historian Tacitus "all confirm the historicity of
Jesus and the main facts of his life."" (1988 Watchtower, 7/15, p. 4.)
Some other first-century pagan Roman writers who made mention of
Christ and his followers were the poet Juvenal, and the stoic
philosopher Lucius Seneca, who was a contemporary of Jesus and the
leading intellectual figure in Rome in the middle of the first
century.
Concerning those early non-Christian writers, the Encyclopaedia
Britannica states:
"These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the
opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus."
(1980 edition, vol. 10, p. 145.)
James
John 4:23,24
www.jw.org
>We don't even know if Jesus ever existed. Remember, the Greeks were great
>for their mythology and guess who wrote the NT.
There is a lot of writings out there showing that Jesus really did
>for their mythology and guess who wrote the NT.
exist as a man. I'll list some of them, and if you want more, just
ask.
The first century non-Christian historian Josephus (37-100 A.D) wrote,
"Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of
such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both
many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And
when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had
condemned him to the cross, (9) those that loved him at the first did
not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day;
(10) as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other
wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named
from him, are not extinct at this day." (Antiquities of the Jews, Book
XVIII, Chap. III, par. 3.)
Justin Martyr, writing in the middle of the second century, wrote in
reference to the death of Jesus:
"That these things did happen, you can ascertain from the Acts of
Pontius Pilate."
In addition, according to Justin Martyr, these same records mentioned
Jesus' miracles, regarding which he says:
"That He did those things, you can learn from the Acts of Pontius
Pilate."
True, these "Acts," or official records, no longer exist. But they
evidently did exist in the second century, and Justin Martyr
confidently challenged his readers to check them to verify the truth
of what he said. (Antiquities of the Jews, Book XVIII, Chap. III, par.
3)
"German historian and archaeologist Hans Einsle writes that Jewish
historian Flavius Josephus, Roman writers Suetonius and Pliny, and
especially Roman historian Tacitus "all confirm the historicity of
Jesus and the main facts of his life."" (1988 Watchtower, 7/15, p. 4.)
Some other first-century pagan Roman writers who made mention of
Christ and his followers were the poet Juvenal, and the stoic
philosopher Lucius Seneca, who was a contemporary of Jesus and the
leading intellectual figure in Rome in the middle of the first
century.
Concerning those early non-Christian writers, the Encyclopaedia
Britannica states:
"These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the
opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus."
(1980 edition, vol. 10, p. 145.)
James
John 4:23,24
www.jw.org
Ike
May 19, 2013, 5:54:52 PM5/19/13
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On 5/17/2013 1:55 PM, news wrote:
> Christ took your sins away, Satan comes to make you sin.
False dichotomy.
> Christ took your sins away, Satan comes to make you sin.
Satan already made everyone to be sin; Jesus takes away that stain.
[snip the rest of the erroneous and pointless diatribe]
Ike
u2fan
May 21, 2013, 11:40:54 AM5/21/13
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Ike you're a tosser ... ah that feels better :-) tell it as it is.
Ike
May 23, 2013, 3:33:53 AM5/23/13
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On 5/21/2013 11:40 AM, u2fan wrote:
> Ike you're a tosser ... ah that feels better :-) tell it as it is.
...says the babbling pervert and lunatic who doesn't even know what his
> Ike you're a tosser ... ah that feels better :-) tell it as it is.
own condition is.
Ike
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