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>Anyone have an opinion about compressor quality? Copeland vs. Bristol,
>etc.
>
Copeland, Tecumseh, Bristol, in that order. I like Trane's " Climatuff " for
residential and light commercial A/C. Maneurop seems durable as well. Of those
mentioned, Bristol is the worst.
Ed
TURTLE
"Gary" <GARY...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Anyone have an opinion about compressor quality? Copeland vs. Bristol,
> etc.
>
>
>
> Gary
>
This is Turtle.
I say Copeland , Climatuff , and Tecumseh / Bristol Last .
Now when you do ask a question like this you get a good percent of the
answer is personal thoughts with very little engineering data involved.
TURTLE
John Morton
Bristol would be my last choice out of all the manufacturers.
John
Bill
<tur...@worldnetla.net> wrote:
I agree, Copeland first and others after.
The thing I like about Copeland is they give you all the engineering data.
The others are half assed to non-existant.
-bill
Mike P
close to 1 yr. But that was some time ago. The staff is first rate and the
engineers are really dedicated. The compressors are well designed and
assembled under very tight qc. Warranty returns are cracked opened and
inspected. Logs are kept on everything. They have a compressor life test lab
that is the best in the world. OEMs use the lab to test new equipment to
prove a design. Bristol tested the first scrolls and found so many defects
that they predicted 1 in 10 scroll failure rate within the first 3 years
which was right on target. Now the bad part. They have a very poor marketing
dept. The advertising people just can't click with the right message. IMHO
this is the only reason they stay behind the big two. Bristol is quality but
the quality is not believable. Bristol's main business is the OEM market.
Aftermarket replacement compressors and condensing units has never been a
stronghold. For that they should not ignore, or course former employees are
the only ones that can tell them so.
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Me
cooler and they had an Aspera Compressor which is made in Italy. I was very
surprised by this.
In the past when replacing through the wall units I always used Tecumseh
because they were much quieter on start up, but now the Copeland's start
just as quiet. Besides, Copeland seems to help me much more than Tecumseh
ever did.
Copeland has a great website with engineering tables that you can't get from
Tecumseh no matter how you beg them.
Interesting, I use to only Tecumseh up until two years ago when Copeland
changed to the new designs, now I could care less about Tecumseh.
Rich
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Bill
<newca...@home.com> wrote:
> Well, I shall go on the defense here of Bristol, since I worked there for
> close to 1 yr. But that was some time ago. The staff is first rate and the
> engineers are really dedicated. The compressors are well designed and
> assembled under very tight qc. Warranty returns are cracked opened and
> inspected. Logs are kept on everything. They have a compressor life test lab
> that is the best in the world. OEMs use the lab to test new equipment to
> prove a design. Bristol tested the first scrolls and found so many defects
> that they predicted 1 in 10 scroll failure rate within the first 3 years
> which was right on target. Now the bad part. They have a very poor marketing
> dept. The advertising people just can't click with the right message. IMHO
> this is the only reason they stay behind the big two. Bristol is quality but
> the quality is not believable. Bristol's main business is the OEM market.
> Aftermarket replacement compressors and condensing units has never been a
> stronghold. For that they should not ignore, or course former employees are
> the only ones that can tell them so.
>
Sorry I disagree.
Unsweat the suction line from the compressor and the fitting comes
completely out of the compressor, everytime.
They have little info on their limited product line and no charts at all.
They have a table but it's close to worthless.
Copeland stands behind stuff turned in I never would.
Bristol's can't compete with the quality of a Copeland. Period.
Scroll technology has been around since the 1920's.
Nobody could build one that wouldn't scramble.
Copeland did. The initial bugs are gone and we have one of the finest
scroll's out there to replace all the bristol's and tecumseh POS.
Where's bristol's scroll?
What's funny is they have the balls to charge as much if not more for their
POS than a Copeland.
There is no reason to spec anything but Copeland. There are plenty of 40+
year old Copelands still doing fine around here.
The life expectancy of a Copeland is forever. Reliability sells itself.
-bill
Freezebear
very neat to work on. As far as Bristol goes, it makes a great boat anchor.
Besides underwater is about the only place you can't hear those noisy
Bristols.
Greg O
We have a York roof top on its third compressor in 4 years! Luckily they
have warranted all no problem. The last time we were going to stick anything
else in it for a compressor, but could not get a decent delivery commitment
from anyone, so a Bristol went back in.
Greg
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CBHVAC
Gonna sound like a stupid question..but you say roof top....is it a package
unit? or a split?
If its a split..sounds like you have an evap filling with oil....:)
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Greg O
Each time the motor windings are open, not shorted. Not burned out either,
oil from the compressor is clean, no acid. The system is clean, vacs to 400
microns in 1/2-1 hour.
Greg
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Earle Edomm
hermetics or rebuilds I demand them if the request doesn't sink in.
Sometimes in a warranty situation the guys behind the counter don't exactly
know what to do other than send it back or field scrap it according to the
mfgs. guidelines. If it goes back somewhere, demand to know where, to who
and how to contact them if the report isn't forthcoming. If it's going to
be field scraped you can autopsy it yourself or take it to a compressor
rebuilder & get lessons on how to do an autopsy. You could have a latent
system problem that takes a bearing out, lets the stator drag till it nicks
a winding (for example) or it could be a lousy compressor. Either way you
can find out for sure and it eliminates any finger pointing.
Earle
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Dan Murphy
Copeland wins.
Dan