new residential heat pump using furon HFC freon
Alain Normandin
pump, because R22 is not compliant any more with montreal protocol.(down
here in canada I heard that R12 only we be prohibited to refill only not the
HCFC)
I wonder if some of you have used the new R22 replacement freon for
residential unit. And How does it go.
thanks
kathleen
kne...@refri-ozone.com
John Mills
Alain Normandin wrote:
>
> Some of my customers are being call by coleman and bryant to change the heat
> pump, because R22 is not compliant any more with montreal protocol.(down
> here in canada I heard that R12 only we be prohibited to refill only not the
> HCFC)
> I wonder if some of you have used the new R22 replacement freon for
> residential unit. And How does it go.
I think you are meaning Carrier, not Coleman. Coleman doesn't have an
R410a machine.
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Alain Normandin
here. My customers are calling me on it for advise.
Kathleen
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turtle4air
<al...@normandin.org> wrote:
> Some of my customers are being call by coleman and bryant to change the heat
> pump, because R22 is not compliant any more with montreal protocol.(down
> here in canada I heard that R12 only we be prohibited to refill only not the
> HCFC)
> I wonder if some of you have used the new R22 replacement freon for
> residential unit. And How does it go.
>
>
> kathleen
> kne...@refri-ozone.com
>
>
>
This is turtle.
The R-22 being non- compliant is a bunch of hog wash. If i install a
new
system tomorrow morning it will have R-22 in it and be new equipment.
Call your BBB and report the crooks or maybe the police .
TURTLE
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Brian Spencer
Alain Normandin <al...@normandin.org> wrote in message
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> Some of my customers are being call by coleman and bryant to change the
heat
> pump, because R22 is not compliant any more with montreal protocol.(down
> here in canada I heard that R12 only we be prohibited to refill only not
the
> HCFC)
> I wonder if some of you have used the new R22 replacement freon for
> residential unit. And How does it go.
>
> thanks
Hi Kathleen,
This is how I understand it:
*** New equipment can use R22 until 2010
*** R22 can be produced until 2020
*** Recycled R22 can be sold and used until 2030
It is in Carrier/Bryant's best interest to cause homeowners to think R22 is
already gone, and if they buy an R22 unit, they making a BIG mistake. As of
now, R22 will be around longer than most new units will last. But, the
phase out schedule could change anytime.
Other manufacturers are now offering the 410 units, so Carrier/Bryant
doesn't quite have the monopoly they had. But still, no one knows how long
410 will be around.
Brian
Robert Graice
As for R410a....this looks like the refrigerant that will be adopted by all
the manufactures..
Robert Gracie
Alain Normandin <al...@normandin.org> wrote in message
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> Some of my customers are being call by coleman and bryant to change the
heat
> pump, because R22 is not compliant any more with montreal protocol.(down
> here in canada I heard that R12 only we be prohibited to refill only not
the
> HCFC)
> I wonder if some of you have used the new R22 replacement freon for
> residential unit. And How does it go.
>
> thanks
>
> kathleen
> kne...@refri-ozone.com
>
>
>
Buck153
But answer me this, is R22 production rate already capped?
Now is the R22 production going to be reduced under mandate of law? If so when
and how much?
If it's true will that have an impact on R22 and it's equipment before 2010?
Buck
Dean
atmosphere 15 minutes. Can anyone here change out a defective reversing
valve in 15 minutes?
Brian Spencer
Dean <airf...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> The way I understand it a puron system can only be open to the
> atmosphere 15 minutes. Can anyone here change out a defective reversing
> valve in 15 minutes?
And are new house guys going to quit installing when it's rainy or misty
outside?
Buck153
<brians...@mindspring.com> writes:
>And are new house guys going to quit installing when it's rainy or misty
>outside?
>
You know I've wondered about this problem too, with poe oil. Yet automobiles
are using R134a for several years now. Has anyone heard any war stories about
car a/c internally self destructing? There's bound to be several leakers out
there, car manufacturers never improved their production quality that much did
they?
Buck
turtle4air
This is turtle.
The Car A/C people are talking about changing a lot of compressor
failure , but is not saying it our loud because it is making them a lot
of money. This started in 1993 Ester oil and 134-a was man dated. The
problem of the 134-a or ester oil , i think , is showing up in the form
of burnt up compressor. This problem of compressors is the compressor
bearing are freezing up and the blame is put on compressor makers and
not 134-a or ester / PAG / POE.
The auto people around here is happy as a Lark and just get paid to
deal with it.