Help! "GOODMAN" Do they make quality Equipment?
Gleer
installed. Is it a good company and do they make quality equipment because I
have never heard of them.
Thanks!
turtle4air
this is turtle.
first Goodman makes fair equipment , but good equipment does not make a
good working air system. look at the hvac contractor as to how well of
a
system you will have. the equipment is no better than than the
installer. a
bad installer can make the best equipment on the earth a piece of junk.
now the system that your speaking of is very new and it would be hard
for
me to speak about it for i have not installed one yet. i have seen them
run in
test runs and everything was perfect and not in a home and exposed to
the
real world. Sony and Missey bitchey makes them too but at a high
price.
if your the type person who likes to be the first on the block to get
something , well
your the first on the block.
now about quality equipment --- they don't make that anymore , just
good or fair.
TURTLE
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theh...@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net
experience with one of their ductless systems, was eating up blower
wheels (plastic) about every TWO months. They would come perfectly
ballanced, were turning correct RPMs, etc, but would come right apart.
Mfg. was no help, other then to send us 2 blower wheels at a time!!!
Unit was brand new, and under warranty! No upgraded wheels available, no
after market available.
I do believe that they would be good for terorist to use though, for
with their lack of metal parts, they could easily be passed thru a metal
detector. The metal they do use is about as thick as a good grade of
alum. foil. my .02
Hutch
ago. The previous owner had annual maintenance charges that ran about
1/3 of the replacement cost for a 'Name Brand'. This was a traditional
split system. It didn't cool well, and was 'down' a lot. The HVAC guy
that did the job marked th old unit(s) SCRAP before he removed them.
Just an experience --- Hutch
In article <3770D268...@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net>,
theh...@bellatlantic.net wrote:
> Personally, I don't care for Goodman (AKA DAMITALL) one bit. My only
<SNIP>
> > now about quality equipment --- they don't make that anymore , just
> > good or fair.
> >
> > TURTLE
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AllTemp
totally free from any problems other than low batteries on the remote once!
Certainly good value and dependability... Goodman manufactures the horizontal
condensor but doesn't the indoor evaporator. Very quite system, perfect for
enclosed basements,garages, ect.....
Your equipment is only as good as the contractor! The best equipment will be
crap if the contractor is a hack!
MDamron,AllTemp
theh...@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net
concerned with getting the lowest price poss. Weither they go by the
name of Janitrol, Goodman, GMC...they are junk! AllTemp, I agree with
your coments concerning the quality of the contractor installing the
equipment, however with Goodman (and many other low budget brands) no
matter who installs it, it will still be junk. I can't help but
wondering why you recomend it. I think anyone would be hard pressed to
find someonewho has been in the trade for any time who would do the
same! just my .02, however, where I come from this is common knowledge.
theh...@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net
who equates Goodman with dependability of any sort....
#!....has been VERY lucky in their encounters with Goodman equip.
#2....hasn't had many encounters with Goodman equip.
#3....(hate to say it)...is giving misleading info.
AllTemp, I agree 100% with your comment "your equipment is only as good
as the contractor", but were talking about GOODMAN here!!
(The above has been my opinion, the following is fact)
Goodman is made for one market only, for the customer who wants the
LOWEST PRICE POSSIBLE. He gets what he pays for.
my .02 Jay Hartsock
AllTemp
So I install Juntrols for a living, he he!
MDamron, AllTemp
GoGo...@aol.com wrote:
> In article <37741D6C...@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net>,
> theh...@bellatlantic.net wrote:
> > Goodman is made for ONE market only, for those people who are ONLY
> > concerned with getting the lowest price poss. Weither they go by the
> > name of Janitrol, Goodman, GMC...they are junk! AllTemp, I agree with
> > your coments concerning the quality of the contractor installing the
> > equipment, however with Goodman (and many other low budget brands) no
> > matter who installs it, it will still be junk. I can't help but
> > wondering why you recomend it. I think anyone would be hard pressed to
> > find someonewho has been in the trade for any time who would do the
> > same! just my .02, however, where I come from this is common knowledge.
>
> I agree, I have yet to see a piece of Goodman, Janitrol (Junkatrol)
> equiptment that's installed what I would deem "a good job", USUALLY it's
> installed by some fly by night clown working out of his garage looking to
> make a quick buck.
GoGo...@aol.com
theh...@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net
equip. are "hacks", although I must admit that in my area a lot of them
are. I ASSume that the fly-by-nighters can't get accounts anywhere else,
and alwayse seem to be the low bidder for some reason.(hhmmmm....go
figure)
I was meerly commenting of the quality of Janitrol products, JUNK!!
AllTemp
Besides how many manufactures out there are offering 10 year parts & labor direct form the manufacture with out an outside vendor selling you a heap of warranty, requiring service plans, ect.... EXACTLY!
Goodman, NUMBER ONE in market share for unitary air conditioning products!
Now flame me till I roast boy & girls!
MDamron, AllTemp
JCH9789 wrote:
do yourself a favor and invest in something that will last!goodman is the yugo
of airconditioning products and will not last!
you might want to invest in mitzubishi,sanyo these products if installed
properly will last a long time.
jim
000000001
Goodman, NUMBER ONE in market share for unitary air conditioning products!
All due to the boom in new construction....there is a demand for cheap equipment from builders.
A builder is not going to put top of the line stuff in, he is going to find the cheapest gargabe he can
because the homeowner doesnt know any better, and he is going to pocket the difference.
GMC & Ductboard, baby.
JCH9789
Paul Milligan
I dunno...... we've bombed the Yugo factory, we've bombed the
Mitsubishi factory.......maybe go with a nice domestic ? :-)
theh...@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net
AllTemp wrote:
>
> For equipment that wont last there sure is alot of it out there
> running.... Goodman doesn't make their indoor mini split system it's
> made by Dainkin (IF that is spelled correctly) and I have several in
> service and am quite atisfied with their performace.
>
> Besides how many manufactures out there are offering 10 year parts &
> labor direct form the manufacture with out an outside vendor selling
> you a heap of warranty, requiring service plans, ect.... EXACTLY!
>
> Goodman, NUMBER ONE in market share for unitary air conditioning
> products!
>
> Now flame me till I roast boy & girls!
>
> MDamron, AllTemp
>
John Mills
> Goodman, NUMBER ONE in market share for unitary air conditioning
> products!
>
> Now flame me till I roast boy & girls!
Where's the proof of that? The A/C News thinks otherwise.
Besides, wait til the UT/ICP merger! Your fav will be a DISTANT #2!
Harold's philosophy: Sell a cheap product cheap to anyone with
green, you will have quantity. That doesn't make it a good buy!
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steve
Mel, every time you fawn about yourself and Goodmans 10yr parts and
labor warranty i'm reminded of a movie called Tommy Boy that stared
Chris Farley. He played a brake parts salesman and one of his lines
was " I can shit in a box and put a guarantee on it, and all you have
is a guaranteed piece of shit". That's how I think of Goodmans
warranty.
Mike
UA local 370
Reply to, <ft...@accessflint.com
Good point. That would, in effect, make Goodman #2!
tur...@worldnetla.net
theh...@bellatlantic.net wrote:
> I don't mean to yanking anyones chain here, but in my opinion, anyone
> who equates Goodman with dependability of any sort....
>
> #!....has been VERY lucky in their encounters with Goodman equip.
> #2....hasn't had many encounters with Goodman equip.
> #3....(hate to say it)...is giving misleading info.
>
> AllTemp, I agree 100% with your comment "your equipment is only as
good
> as the contractor", but were talking about GOODMAN here!!
> (The above has been my opinion, the following is fact)
> Goodman is made for one market only, for the customer who wants the
> LOWEST PRICE POSSIBLE. He gets what he pays for.
> my .02 Jay Hartsock
this is turtle.
i have for the last 12 years or so just sold Goodman or janitrol. i was
a Lennox and Rheem dealer too. Lennox and Rheem dropped me because i
did not buy enough of there equipment to there liking. now i still can
buy all i want if i call them and say i need this or that in equipment
line and they give it to me. so i don't know what being dropped means.
to the point in the 12 years that i have installed maybe 30 to 50
condenser [ janitrol ]with or with out inside systems a year in the 12
years. i have came back and changed out 4 compressors that were bad on
the system that i installed in the 12 years. out of 500 or so systems
that i have installed the 4 compressor -- 2 really burnt up. 1
lightning hit it. the other one the house burned while it was running
and blowed the valve plates. i have changed NO compressors janitrol
with scroll compressors in them in the 12 years.
now it was not for Carrier , Majic chief , older Rheem / Ruud , and Dun
& Bush . i would starve to death. there is some hacks here in town
that install the janitrol and really put them in very very cheaply and
very very trashy way. in the 12 years or so i have change maybe 50 to
75 compressor on them. if they could get the tonage right like a 4 ton
on a 3 ton blower and coil. they don't work good like that.
if you install the janitrol the old way like really install it properly
they run just like the rest of the boys. trash them in and they will
dump on you. you better know what your doing to install them and expect
trouble free service.
TURTLE
Steven White
AllTemp <All...@Pacbell.net> wrote in message news:377B1160...@Pacbell.net...
For equipment that wont last there sure is alot of it out there running.... Goodman doesn't make their indoor mini split system it's made by Dainkin (IF that is spelled correctly) and I have several in service and am quite atisfied with their performace.
Besides how many manufactures out there are offering 10 year parts & labor direct form the manufacture with out an outside vendor selling you a heap of warranty, requiring service plans, ect.... EXACTLY!
Goodman, NUMBER ONE in market share for unitary air conditioning products!
Now flame me till I roast boy & girls!
MDamron, AllTemp
AllTemp
MDamron.AllTemp
Steven White wrote:
I have installed many Goodman units... approximatly 30 or so.... I have had great luck with all of them up until last month. I installed a 2.5-ton condenser with new suction and liqued lines and driers. Unit only ran for about 1 month before the valves went in the comp. Quite upset to say the least. The warranty covered the comp. but did not cover my time and labor for the new installation. I will continue to install them for customers that desire a low priced, medium run of the mill a/c unit but will warn them of the possiblities of what happens when you buy low. You defenitely get what you pay for. hv...@worldnet.att.net
AllTemp <All...@Pacbell.net> wrote in message news:377B1160...@Pacbell.net...For equipment that wont last there sure is alot of it out there running.... Goodman doesn't make their indoor mini split system it's made by Dainkin (IF that is spelled correctly) and I have several in service and am quite atisfied with their performace.