Luxaire "rollout" problem
Donnelly Refrig
>The blower on my Luxaire furnace is running, but I have no heat/no flame.
>
>The red LED is flashing 5 times, and the diagnostic chart says, "Rollout
>Open".
>
>What's a "Rollout" (and how do I close it)?
Probably a little thermo disc near the flue with a little red button and 2
wires going to it. Reset it, if it happens again I would get a pro in to
check things out.
J. S. Nunes
from 1 - 5 rollouts....these are safety devices that keep your furnace from
burning your house down....call your favorite HVAC contractor/technician to
check the furnace and to find out *WHY* the rollout tripped in the first
place and correct the problem.
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Heating and Air Conditioning Service
Purvis MS
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Seymour Dupa <gru...@shell.en.com> wrote in message
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> The blower on my Luxaire furnace is running, but I have no heat/no flame.
>
> The red LED is flashing 5 times, and the diagnostic chart says, "Rollout
> Open".
>
> What's a "Rollout" (and how do I close it)?
>
> TIA,
> John
>
> --
> If You Always Do the Things You've Done,
> You'll Always Have the Things You Got.
Seymour Dupa
theh...@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net
Jay
Seymour Dupa
> depending on the configuration and model of the furnace...
Model PBKM-LD12M080A
> from 1 - 5 rollouts....these are safety devices that keep your furnace from
> burning your house down....call your favorite HVAC contractor/technician to
> check the furnace and to find out *WHY* the rollout tripped in the first
> place and correct the problem.
> --
> Steve @ NOON-AIR
> Heating and Air Conditioning Service
> Purvis MS
> jsn...@netdoor.com
> Noon...@hotmail.com
> I am never surprised by Gods judgement
> but I am always stunned by his grace
> Seymour Dupa <gru...@shell.en.com> wrote in message
> news:3830c7f2$0$39...@news.en.com...
Callredeye
the flue is blocked by psycho-squirrels or the inducer motor fails (or
trips its overload) the burner flame will back out of the tubes or
clamshells and burn around in the burner compartment, torching the gas
valve and ignition controls, maybe setting your house on fire. On the
Luxaire rooftops, the switch is always auto-reset, in case the rollout
is caused by a gust of wind. The ignition control locks the furnace
off-line if the switch is auto-reset. On Luxaire residential furnaces,
I'm not so sure, it may be manual reset.
There may be an actual rollout situation caused by an intermittant or
continuous situation, or it may just be the switch/wiring that's
faulty. Either way, don't just check/repair the switch without
determining that the flue is open and the draft motor is working, and
that combustion air is really moving.
As others have advised, calling a qualified serviceman/woman is a good
idea. Not only will they be able to get the correct replacement part
if you need it, they will know how to inspect all parts of the draft
system.
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Murdentech
furnace, reset the control and you'll be fine..................
just kidding, couldn't resist, been thinking about that one all day.
Seriously, try resetting the thing like the other guys suggest. If it
happens again call a pro. (just make sure he wasn't into the cheap whisky
without a dictionary the night before).
When you reset the control start the furnace and watch the ignition process
(from a safe distance of a couple feet). If you notice anything out of the
ordinary, call a tech sooner than later, it could burn up the wires, but
that is the purpose of the rollout sensor/s.
best to you
Jeff Murden
Seymour Dupa
> Have it serviced.
> Jay
The problem is that the furnace is not really "mine". It heats the store
that I am leasing. The commercial lease I have states that I am
responsible for *all* interior repairs.
Now I don't mind buying a few washers or a ballast, but there is no such
think as a small repair bill on a high efficiency furnace.
I'm not about to sink a lot of money into a furnace that isn't mine.
HVACMAN
lease says you must, and it burns down the space it will cost less than
the repair? Love your logic... not to mention the space may not be the
only thing consumed by the fire.
Dusty
1- call for heat
2- when the burners come on, examine the flame....carefully!
3-when the blower fan comes on, do the flame characteristics change?
What I mean is does the flame dance around when the fan blower comes on?
That could mean a cracked heat exchanger!(It's out of your hands now, Call a
pro)
Try replacing your air filter once in a while.
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Rob R.
HVACMAN <"hvacman"@(#$%&*)uswest.net> wrote in message
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bill
<gru...@shell.en.com> wrote:
> theh...@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net wrote:
> > Have it serviced.
> > Jay
>
> The problem is that the furnace is not really "mine". It heats the store
> that I am leasing. The commercial lease I have states that I am
> responsible for *all* interior repairs.
> Now I don't mind buying a few washers or a ballast, but there is no such
> think as a small repair bill on a high efficiency furnace.
> I'm not about to sink a lot of money into a furnace that isn't mine.
>
> John
You signed the lease.
"responsible for *all* interior repairs."
Cheap gets what you pay for.
Yeah we know, you only plan to stay here a year or two more. (5 years
laterŠ)
Can't you just fix it temporary?
I'm not about to sink a lot of money into a furnace that isn't mine.
We hear this shit all the time.
You are using it. Putting wear and tear on the equipment.
MAINTENANCE usually prevents 99% of the problems .
But you're too cheap so it becomes a MAJOR problem.
You are the ones I walk away from or put a dent in your butt.
Either spend the money or go to school to fix it yourself.
Safety, comfort and maintenance cost.
Seymour Dupa
> So what you are saying is: if you fail to maintain the furnace as the
No - If I don't maintain the furnace, it doesn't work.
If you don't maintain your car, does it go faster?
HVACMAN
correcting the condition than there is a very real possibility there
will be a fire... maybe just a few burned wires, maybe it takes out the
whole building. This concept is easy for most folks to figure out unless
they have rocks in their head... If the shoe fits, wear it.
DK 0016
Just burn yourself out!
We have to get on to the important calls!
HVACMAN
Seymour Dupa
what it meant. From what you say, I guess it is a condition where the
flame/combustion occurs outside (rollsout?) of the combustion chamber.
If this is the case, I fully understand how serious this is and how it can
burn down a building. My past furnace experience has been with a 50 year
old gravity furnace.
BTW, just how does the furnace know the flame is outside of the fire box?
John
HVACMAN <"hvacman"@(#$%&*)uswest.net> wrote:
> If the furnace has flame roll out and you run the furnace without
> correcting the condition than there is a very real possibility there
> will be a fire... maybe just a few burned wires, maybe it takes out the
> whole building. This concept is easy for most folks to figure out unless
> they have rocks in their head... If the shoe fits, wear it.
--
HVACMAN
HVACMAN
You now know what rollout is, you know where the rollout switch is
located, do you suppose the flames act upon the switch causing the
little turkey timer on top of it to pop out????
Seymour Dupa wrote:
>
> You're about as helpful as . . . . . . .
Seymour Dupa
Seymour Dupa
problem is intermittent (twice in two months), the problem may be in the
rollout sensor itself.
JOhn
Murdentech <rjmu...@murdentech.com> wrote:
[snip]
> When you reset the control start the furnace and watch the ignition process
> (from a safe distance of a couple feet). If you notice anything out of the
> ordinary, call a tech sooner than later, it could burn up the wires, but
> that is the purpose of the rollout sensor/s.
> Jeff Murden
> Seymour Dupa <gru...@shell.en.com> wrote in message
> news:3830c7f2$0$39...@news.en.com...
>> The blower on my Luxaire furnace is running, but I have no heat/no flame.
>>
>> The red LED is flashing 5 times, and the diagnostic chart says, "Rollout
>> Open".
>>
>> What's a "Rollout" (and how do I close it)?
>>
>> TIA,
>> John
>>