tonnage ???
Jeff Brannon
Georges
Jeff Brannon wrote in message <14295-39...@storefull-236.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...I have a lennox condensing unit....
it's model number is :
HS8-411-10FFA
what is the tonnage ??? and how do you tell ??
thanks
Jeff
John Mills
Jeff Brannon wrote:
>
> I have a lennox condensing unit....
> it's model number is :
>
> HS8-411-10FFA
>
> what is the tonnage ??? and how do you tell ??
411 is about a 3 ton. Gotta know Lennox's code!
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TURTLE
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> I have a lennox condensing unit....
> it's model number is :
>
> HS8-411-10FFA
>
> what is the tonnage ??? and how do you tell ??
>
>
> Jeff
>
This is turtle.
Well back 20 something years ago when your HS8-411-10FFA was made it
was call a basic 3 ton and by changing the coil that went with it . It
can be used as a 3.5 ton.
During this period of time Lennox did not make but one model for 3 ton
and 3.5 ton. They used this as both. You can put a CC-41-0 evaperator
coil on it and it was a 3 ton . Then you could put a CC-51-0 evaperator
coil on it and you would have a 3.5 ton system.
So what I'm saing is by put a 3 or 3.5 ton evaperator coil on it you
can use it as both types applications.
If i was going to match a new furnace and evaperator coil on it now
days . I would hook a 3.5 ton furnace and evaperator coil on it to get
the max. effiency out of it. Now you can just hook a 3 ton coil to it
and get a super dehydrator 3.0 ton.
How do you tell what it is ?
HS8-211 ------ 1.5 TON
HS8-311 ------ 2TON
HS8-411 ------ 3 TON
HS8-511 ------ 4 TON
HS8-611 ------ 5 TON
During this period they did not make 1/2 Tons and just change the coil
to make half tons.
TURTLE
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Before you buy.
James
From what I have read it is actually BTU
261=26,000
311=31,000
411=41,000
461=46,000
etc
Lennox was conservative with the way they sized units. What was called a
three ton, was actually a bit more.
the last number "1" was to signify the phase, being HS8-413 was a three
phase unit
James
Brian S-
James <ja...@home.com> wrote in message
news:KTqb5.311$A4.1...@wagner.videotron.net...
> what about the HS8-461, 3.5 ton
>
> From what I have read it is actually BTU
>
> 261=26,000
> 311=31,000
> 411=41,000
> 461=46,000
Actually, the model # does not mean "btu's". Here's how it goes:
-211 1.5 tons
-261 2 tons
-311 2.5 tons
-411 3 tons
-461 3.5 tons
-511 4 tons
-651 5 tons
Brian
Marc O'Brien
> If i was going to match a new furnace and evaperator coil on it now
> days . I would hook a 3.5 ton furnace and evaperator coil on it to get
> the max. effiency out of it. Now you can just hook a 3 ton coil to it
> and get a super dehydrator 3.0 ton.
How does this work Tut-hut ?
Marc O'Brien
http://fridgetech.com
I have some second hand R134a centrif chillers for sale, any bids ?
check them out at http://fridgetech.com/centrif-sales.html
Don Ocean
I just know! This is absolutely not spam either! No disrespect, but this is
funny!! Up is down and down is up. I just wonder what responses would be if
posted by other then regulars. I can just hear Paul laughing in the
background. I think a change in the charter is due - to better fit the
overall requirements of the group. Do with this post - Whatever you will.
This is now a null subject for me.;-0
Don Ocean
Sioux Falls, SD
PS Maybe Popeck will return and help with an upgrade to the charter!!
John Mills
James wrote:
>
> what about the HS8-461, 3.5 ton
>
> From what I have read it is actually BTU
>
> 261=26,000
> 311=31,000
> 411=41,000
> 461=46,000
>
> Lennox was conservative with the way they sized units. What was called a
> three ton, was actually a bit more.
>
> the last number "1" was to signify the phase, being HS8-413 was a three
> phase unit
> James
That may have been the case back in the 60s with the HS6 & HS8 but
looking at ARI ratings for the HS9 in 1977, the oldest book I have, that
wasn't anymore. The HS9-411 ran from 34,000 to 36,000. The 461 ran from
38,000-42,000.
John Mills
TURTLE wrote:
> This is turtle.
>
> I'm Not all that clear on them but what I remember is from installing
> them in the 1960's. We was told buy the Lennox supplier that we don't
> carry anything but HS8-211 , 311, 411 , 511 , 611 and if you want 1/2
> sizes change coil to add 1/2 ton size to unit. They may have made the
> 1/2 sizes but you buy what the supplier supplies and do your job.
Never seen a 611. The 5 ton has always been the 651 until the recent
change to industry standard.
Vicki
Jeff Brandon wrote:
> I have a lennox condensing unit....
> it's model number is :
>
> HS8-411-10FFA
>
> what is the tonnage ??? and how do you tell ??
>
> thanks
>
> Jeff
>
Carrier Blue Book (1994 edition)
1970 37,000 7,6 SEER
1971 37,000 7.6 SEER
1972 36,000 7.7 SEER
1973 36,000 7.7 SEER
1974 36,000 7.7 SEER
1975 35,000 6.9 SEER
Vicki
TURTLE
"James" <ja...@home.com> wrote:
> what about the HS8-461, 3.5 ton
>
> From what I have read it is actually BTU
>
> 261=26,000
> 311=31,000
> 411=41,000
> 461=46,000
> etc
>
> Lennox was conservative with the way they sized units. What was
called a
> three ton, was actually a bit more.
>
> the last number "1" was to signify the phase, being HS8-413 was a
three
> phase unit
> James
>
>
This is turtle.
I'm Not all that clear on them but what I remember is from installing
them in the 1960's. We was told buy the Lennox supplier that we don't
carry anything but HS8-211 , 311, 411 , 511 , 611 and if you want 1/2
sizes change coil to add 1/2 ton size to unit. They may have made the
1/2 sizes but you buy what the supplier supplies and do your job.
One Question here , I see all the number above that you stated but i
don't see a 3 ton some wheres among them. I see 2 ton , 2.5 ton , 3.5
ton , and a 4 ton . I need to know what a 3 ton number is.
One more if a HS8-411 is rated by your reading as 41,000 btu's , i
would call that a 3.5 ton. Also by your rating here the HS8-461 with
46,000 btu's , I would call that a 4 ton. Remember the old chart.
18,000 btu = 1.5 ton
24,000 btu = 2 ton
30,000 btu = 2.5 tons
36,000 btu = 3 tons
42,000 btu = 3.5 tons
48,000 btu = 4 tons
60,000 btu = 5 tons.
TURTLE
"Brian S-" <BrianS...@SpencerAir.com> wrote:
>
> James <ja...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:KTqb5.311$A4.1...@wagner.videotron.net...
> >
> > From what I have read it is actually BTU
> >
> > 261=26,000
> > 311=31,000
> > 411=41,000
> > 461=46,000
>
>
> -211 1.5 tons
> -261 2 tons
> -311 2.5 tons
> -411 3 tons
> -461 3.5 tons
> -511 4 tons
> -651 5 tons
>
> Brian
>
>
This is turtle.
This is more to the way i remember it.
garyed
the next lower ton or 1/2 ton increment to get the size.
So I come up with the same numbers.
261= 26,000 the next lower would be 2 ton / 24,000 btu's
311= 31,000 ..................................... 2 1/2 / 30,000 btu's
etc...
Gary
TURTLE
Marc O'Brien <ma...@fridgetech.com> wrote:
> TURTLE wrote:
>
> > If i was going to match a new furnace and evaperator coil on it now
> > days . I would hook a 3.5 ton furnace and evaperator coil on it to
get
> > the max. effiency out of it. Now you can just hook a 3 ton coil to
it
> > and get a super dehydrator 3.0 ton.
>
> How does this work Tut-hut ?
>
This is TUT-HUT .
That HS8-411 is electric hog and a 1 seer rating. With that you can
load it's ass down and it will take it. I have seen them hooked to a 4
ton air handler and do a good job , but it did make strange noises all
the time and sometimes sounded like HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME .
TURTLE
John Mills <jmm...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> TURTLE wrote:
>
> > This is turtle.
> >
> > I'm Not all that clear on them but what I remember is from
installing
> > them in the 1960's. We was told buy the Lennox supplier that we
don't
> > carry anything but HS8-211 , 311, 411 , 511 , 611 and if you want
1/2
> > sizes change coil to add 1/2 ton size to unit. They may have made
the
> > 1/2 sizes but you buy what the supplier supplies and do your job.
>
> change to industry standard.
>
This is turtle.
You know I think it was 651 or something. I don't know I sleep since
then.
TURTLE
Don Ocean <doc...@uswest.net> wrote:
> >
>
> I just know! This is absolutely not spam either! No disrespect, but
this is
> funny!! Up is down and down is up. I just wonder what responses would
be if
> posted by other then regulars. I can just hear Paul laughing in the
> background. I think a change in the charter is due - to better fit the
> overall requirements of the group. Do with this post - Whatever you
will.
> This is now a null subject for me.;-0
> Don Ocean
> Sioux Falls, SD
> PS Maybe Popeck will return and help with an upgrade to the charter!!
>
This is turtle.
Don't stop now we're just getting started to turn left just on the
other side of the Twilight Zone .
Marc O'Brien
> >
>
> I just know! This is absolutely not spam either! No disrespect, but this is
> funny!! Up is down and down is up. I just wonder what responses would be if
> posted by other then regulars. I can just hear Paul laughing in the
> background. I think a change in the charter is due - to better fit the
> overall requirements of the group. Do with this post - Whatever you will.
> This is now a null subject for me.;-0
> Don Ocean
> Sioux Falls, SD
> PS Maybe Popeck will return and help with an upgrade to the charter!!
>
> >
> > Marc O'Brien
> > http://fridgetech.com
> >
> > I have some second hand R134a centrif chillers for sale, any bids ?
> >
> > check them out at http://fridgetech.com/centrif-sales.html
Sorry Don, I don't know how that slipped in there, I was actually asking
Tut-hut how he saw it happening that a smaller coil meant increased
dehydration. I'm not saying he's wrong or right, just wondering how he or
anyone else might try quantify this?
But, hell, while we're on the topic, if you need some good second hand centrifs
(one loving owner), I have some :-)
Marc O'Brien
http://www.fridgetech.com
Centrifs for sale http://www.fridgetech.com/centrif-sales.html
TURTLE
John Mills <jmm...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> TURTLE wrote:
>
> > This is turtle.
> >
> > I'm Not all that clear on them but what I remember is from
installing
> > them in the 1960's. We was told buy the Lennox supplier that we
don't
> > carry anything but HS8-211 , 311, 411 , 511 , 611 and if you want
1/2
> > sizes change coil to add 1/2 ton size to unit. They may have made
the
> > 1/2 sizes but you buy what the supplier supplies and do your job.
>
> Never seen a 611. The 5 ton has always been the 651 until the recent
> change to industry standard.
>
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This is turtle.
You know I said I didn't know about it being a 611 . Well I seen a HP21-
611-3P today. So in the 4 or 5 years ago class they did have the 611
type.