Furnace not igniting (Comfortmaker RPJ II - electronic igniter)
sanm...@gmail.com
standing pilot light). The furnace and the fan come on when signaled by
the thermostat but the furnace does not light. No flames come out of
the burners. I've tested this with two different thermostats thinking
our old thermostat was not turning on the furnace. But you can hear it
come on. Any ideas what else would keep the burners from lighting/ not
igniting? or what the problem may be? There is no smell of gas. Any
help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Bubba
You need a new thermostat. You just got a bad one.
Bubba
Tony Hwang
If it's electronic ignitor(Piezo electric) You can hear it when it's
activated. Zap, zap, click, click kinda sound. If you don't hear it
then ignitor module could e bad. There are many things which can
malfunction. What is trouble code?
daytona
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"Tony Hwang" <drag...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Piezo electric ignition in a gas furnace???? Did you know you have to push
the button every time it calls for heat? I found some replacements for you.
http://web.ivenue.com/allparts/productCat77269.ctlg
sanm...@gmail.com
I don't hear the zap, click sound which used to come before the sound
of flames.
A previous post mentioned a trouble code? Where can I check that?
I don't think it's the thermostat. I replaced my old one thinking that
was the problem. But with the new thermostat the exact same thing
happens: the furnace and fan come on, but the furnace doesn't ignite.
Oscar_Lives
Gas filter clogged.
Gas injector needs resetting.
Gas controller needs calibration.
etc.
Oscar_Lives
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Did you polarize the thermostat when you installed it? Comfortmaker needs
the thermostat polarized and sync'ed with the controller board before it
will work correctly.
sanm...@gmail.com
Thanks for the reply. Can you tell me how to polarize and sync the
thermostat or is special equipment required?
Tony Hwang
He is trolling. Trouble code is blinking LED thru small glass window.
Count the blinks to come up with a code. Like ... . will be 31.
Either you have a manual or a sheet with list of code is on the cover
panel usually.
sanm...@gmail.com
> He is trolling. Trouble code is blinking LED thru small glass window.
> Count the blinks to come up with a code. Like ... . will be 31.
> Either you have a manual or a sheet with list of code is on the cover
> panel usually.
the furnace either.
After more trouble shooting I'm thinking it's the igniter. Usually the
first thing you hear is the click-zap sound of the electric igniter.
That no longer happens. Can a non-professional like me replace this
part or try to service it?
Tony Hwang
If you can see if the module is getting power when it needs to activate.
If it gets proper power and nothing happens(no sparksO, then module is a
suspect.
Problem is the module like that is often non-returnable once you buy it.
So unless absolutely sure, it's a gamble. But it's known to fail.
Tony Hwang
Hi,
It could be main control logic board as well.(the part which controls
the ignitor-probably a relay(mechanical or solid state)
Noon-Air
It could also be one of the many safeties that is keeping the furnace from
firing.
Sure you don't want to call a tech and get it properly checked and
serviced??
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Bubba
Tony might be guessing since he seems to be mentioning every part on
your furnace.
Do what Oscar says and try polarizing your thermostat. Get a small
jumper wire and with power applied to your furnace, briefly jumper the
R & C terminals together at the furnace 7 times.
Bubba
MLD
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here--save it for the sink hole you like to live in.
MLD
Stormin Mormon
to fire. If you just go replacing parts, it could easily cost more
than having the repair guy out.
You tried thermostat, and that didn't help. The next part(s) you
replace may be both expensive and unnecessary. At this point in time,
best to call the repairman. Before the weather gets colder, and the
rate schedule goes from "fall" to "winter".
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You have to starve them.
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Stormin Mormon
now, they call em VOMM, for Volt Ohm Modulating Meter. Sure sounds
like your low voltage moduator might be out of synch with the circuit
board. I remember the days when you had to manually synch the
modulator every time you serviced a unit. That could take as long as
an hour, if you had to go through the six or seven cycles of bootup
which were required to fine tune the synch.
I think Oscar has a more up to date manual than mine, but some new
furnace autosynch. Just turn the power switch off for half an hour,
and make sure the case of the furnace is properly grounded to drain
off the high impedance farrady charge. Of course, Os will provide the
specific details, being a helpful fellow as he is.
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.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
Actually, he IS in the HVAC group, and you can go fuck
yourself. Learn what a cross-post is.
Oscar_Lives
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> On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:19:19 GMT, "MLD" <M...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Oscar_Lives" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> <sanm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1162001916....@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>> > The model # of the furnace is GNJ050N12D1.
>>> > I don't hear the zap, click sound which used to come before the sound
>>> > of flames.
>>> > A previous post mentioned a trouble code? Where can I check that?
>>> > I don't think it's the thermostat. I replaced my old one thinking that
>>> > was the problem. But with the new thermostat the exact same thing
>>> > happens: the furnace and fan come on, but the furnace doesn't ignite.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Did you polarize the thermostat when you installed it? Comfortmaker
>>> needs
>>> the thermostat polarized and sync'ed with the controller board before it
>>> will work correctly.
>>>
>>Hey meathead--you're not in the HVAC group. Your crap doesn't fit
>>here--save it for the sink hole you like to live in.
>>MLD
>>
>
> Actually, he IS in the HVAC group, and you can go fuck
> yourself. Learn what a cross-post is.
>
Thanks Paul. I had to pull out my Minion card and make sure it was
up-to-date with the current validation.
Now, what do I do with all these Minion tokens that Mike gave me? The
Minion vending machine has been broke for years since Stormin tried to
adjust the latch on the service door.
.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
wrote:
While your wallet's out .... '07 dues are due soon .....
>
>Now, what do I do with all these Minion tokens that Mike gave me? The
>Minion vending machine has been broke for years since Stormin tried to
>adjust the latch on the service door.
Legacy Minion tokens can be updgraded to the current rev for
$1 / each. The legacy 50 cent tokens are eligible for a 50 % discount
from that fee.
.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
>On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:32:24 GMT, "Oscar_Lives" <nos...@nospam.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>> The
>>Minion vending machine has been broke for years since Stormin tried to
>>adjust the latch on the service door.
Yeh - his shoe didn't quite fit the screw heads.
>
>Dildo fix dat.
Oh, shit, now I have to buy a new one :-(
bob kater
until I smell gas, close it off then try to restart and bingo!!!!!!!!! heat.
the electronic ignition will not try forever to light the furnace and the
pilot draws such a little bit of gas that its quicker to bleed the line then
keep retrying. Is your ignitor working????????
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> <sanm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>I have a Comfortmaker RPJ II gas furnace with an electronic igniter (no
>> standing pilot light). The furnace and the fan come on when signaled by
>> the thermostat but the furnace does not light. No flames come out of
>> the burners. I've tested this with two different thermostats thinking
>> our old thermostat was not turning on the furnace. But you can hear it
>> come on. Any ideas what else would keep the burners from lighting/ not
>> igniting? or what the problem may be? There is no smell of gas. Any
>> help would be appreciated. Thanks.
>>
> when was the last time you had it checked and serviced??
>
>
daytona
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Bubba
Bubba
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:35:54 GMT, "bob kater" <bka...@nc.rr.com>
wrote:
Tekkie®
> What is trouble code?
>
Tony, what is your code to go away?
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Tekkie®
> He is trolling.
>
Yeah, but you don't know anything! Go help Eigen lost his vector find ET.
Tekkie®
> I didn't see any LED signals. There isn't a list of codes anywhere on
> the furnace either.
>
Did you have your aluminum foil hat on? You NEED that to dissipate the bad
humors.
Tekkie®
> If you can see if the module is getting power
>
And Tony how does he see that? Flux capacitor?
Tekkie®
> It could be main control logic board
>
It could be a lot of things couldn't it Tony? Except you don't have a clue!
Tekkie®
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:01:36 GMT, Tony Hwang <drag...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> >It could be main control logic board as well.(the part which controls
> >the ignitor-probably a relay(mechanical or solid state)
>
> It could be caused by Jupiter not being properly aligned with mars. I
> think that the real problem though is that the thermostat has somehow
> detected daylight savings time early and has gotten its time stamp
> sequence out of whack.
>
OH NOOOOOOOO will this create a black hole or cause a KABOOM?
Tekkie®
> Hey meathead--you're not in the HVAC group. Your crap doesn't fit
> here--save it for the sink hole you like to live in.
> MLD
>
>
What does MLD stand for? HMMM Major League Dipshit?
Tekkie®
> Thanks Paul. I had to pull out my Minion card and make sure it was
> up-to-date with the current validation.
>
Does it have those little shiny whoreographics on it? You might need the X-ray
specs to see them.
Tekkie®
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:32:24 GMT, "Oscar_Lives" <nos...@nospam.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> > The
> >Minion vending machine has been broke for years since Stormin tried to
> >adjust the latch on the service door.
>
>
> Dildo fix dat.
>
Yeah, he put a magnetic latch on the aluminum door.
Tekkie®
>
> Try fixing the leak in the line.
> Bubba
>
Try taking a leak on the line? WAAAA?
DIMwit
hmm
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Oscar_Lives
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> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:30:41 -0500, Tekkie® <Tek...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Oscar_Lives posted for all of us...
>>
>>> Thanks Paul. I had to pull out my Minion card and make sure it was
>>> up-to-date with the current validation.
>>>
>>Does it have those little shiny whoreographics on it? You might need the
>>X-ray
>>specs to see them.
>
>
Hell, I didn't even get a Tellygram!
The X-ray specs didn't work too well either. I wore them to the last Minion
Convention and told Paul: " I always knew your were crazy, but now I can
see your nuts!"
dazi...@gmail.com
> I have a Comfortmaker RPJ II gas furnace with an electronic igniter (no
> standing pilot light). The furnace and the fan come on when signaled by
> the thermostat but the furnace does not light. No flames come out of
> the burners. I've tested this with two different thermostats thinking
> our old thermostat was not turning on the furnace. But you can hear it
> come on. Any ideas what else would keep the burners from lighting/ not
> igniting? or what the problem may be? There is no smell of gas. Any
> help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Check your Gas Valve
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catalpa
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What is the point in replying after 11 years?
Leper
years for your Genius resolution to his problem?
>
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because people are made up of lies and half truths. Even Princes.' And
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But it was thoughtful of the respondent to think it over very carefully
for eleven years to insure a correct answer. Perhaps he would like to
donate to the dead complainants favorite charity?
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Amanda Nelson
> sanm...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I have a Comfortmaker RPJ II gas furnace with an electronic igniter (no
> > standing pilot light). The furnace and the fan come on when signaled by
> > the thermostat but the furnace does not light. No flames come out of
> > the burners. I've tested this with two different thermostats thinking
> > our old thermostat was not turning on the furnace. But you can hear it
> > come on. Any ideas what else would keep the burners from lighting/ not
> > igniting? or what the problem may be? There is no smell of gas. Any
> > help would be appreciated. Thanks.
> >
> If it's electronic ignitor(Piezo electric) You can hear it when it's
> activated. Zap, zap, click, click kinda sound. If you don't hear it
> then ignitor module could e bad. There are many things which can
> malfunction. What is trouble code?